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Post by Mav on Aug 28, 2010 19:06:44 GMT -6
this is my work speed test. Still takes a long time to add video. 150 clips, 12 hours 34 mins. That's a fast upload speed. I only get about 5Mbps and can upload a full 45 min. game in about 30 minutes. It may be more of a slow computer/encoding issue.
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Post by Mav on Aug 24, 2010 19:37:55 GMT -6
my only problem Verizon, DSL That speed could be tough. I can get that speed tethering my laptop off my 3G iPhone. If you go directly from one play to the next, without reviewing the play, it take about 2 seconds for the next play to start. We've found that 5 Mbps will not have any noticeable pause between plays. You might want to look into upgrading to the Verizon 7Mbps package or better yet, go with your cable company. Typical cable gets much faster speeds than DSL -- ~15-30 Mbps.
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Post by Mav on Aug 14, 2010 20:55:34 GMT -6
I'm sure this has been asked, but I was unable to find it in a post. What camera would you as coaches recommend. I understand the different cameras available, but what is everyones opinion as far as quality of video and ease of uploading capabilities. That seems to be the main question I have to answer before I approach my boosters for the camera. FYI I am asking because we may be bringing multiple sports on and I want to make sure if the boosters buys 2-3 cameras that we are getting what would work best for everyone. We have one general boosters for all sports. Not to confuse anyone. thanks, Here's a couple of good recommendations from Hudl. IMHO - be sure to buy a HD camcorder. Remember, they have the ability to record in standard and high definition. www.hudl.com/blog/comments/hudl-camera-recommendations-2010/
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Post by Mav on Aug 9, 2010 12:11:20 GMT -6
The folks at Xenith have a program where the parents can help the school fund the purchase for their child. They get to keep the exact helmet until they graduate. We offered it to all 4 classes and ended up purchasing about 24 helmets. I'll let you know our experience after this season.
FWIW - our staff likes the fit and feel of the new Schutt ION 4D helmet a bit better. It's the helmet we give players that have had reoccuring concussions.
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Post by Mav on Aug 8, 2010 16:45:54 GMT -6
Question, are you able to somehow save your files or playlist and then and burn them to a DVD. You're able to burn any playlist with only a couple of clicks.
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Post by Mav on Jul 31, 2010 15:21:08 GMT -6
Mav what speed download and upload should we be getting speedtest.net will give you a score on how you compare to others with your service and with general broadband(top left bar). If you look at the image, I got 3.4 out of 5 for 30Mb/s downloads for Comcast according to Speedtest. I never get any buffering at that speed. My upload speed dropped to 3Mb/s a few weeks ago. I called Comcast and they discovered an issue and fixed it. At our school the network is throttled to only allow 5Mb/s downloads. We get very little buffering at that speed. That's about the minimum download speed I'd accept from a home connection. Quick tip - load your playlist and go through it sequentially. The Hudl servers will pre-load the next clip while your watching the current one. If you jump around in the playlist, you may see more buffering because it can't pre-load the next clips.
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Post by Mav on Jul 31, 2010 9:19:31 GMT -6
Love everything about hudle other than the buffering and freezing of my laptop. GRRRRRR Hi def film is the worst. dblwngr, sounds like you have a serious issue with your internet connection. You'll definitely want to get this fixed before the season starts. We had a couple of coaches who were paying for broadband/high speed internet, but in fact were not getting what they paid for. Comcast and Verizon came right out and fixed it. Go to www.speedtest.net and see what download and upload speeds you're getting. Here's the our results from Comcast cable -
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Post by Mav on Jul 27, 2010 13:27:13 GMT -6
Mav, As a HUDL user, did that change how you viewed film WITH the kids as compared to them watching it at home? How do you use HUDL in that context? On Sat. mornings we'd go through the prior nights game as we usually did before using Hudl. In the spirit of time (and teenager attention span), we've always tried hard to keep the game review w/the players to a 1 hour max. Points must be quick and to the point. Now with Hudl, we follow up with -- notes, telestrations, voiceovers and/or walkthroughs, to reinforce what was discussed in the the film session and give a more detailed explanation of the good and bad points. FWIW - we've learned to be much more balanced, between positive and negative comments, with Hudl notes. As we all know, there are times in our closed film sessions when us coaches can get a bit fiery to make a point. We've found we have to be a bit more tactful when we send Hudl notes -- probably because it's much easier for the kids to tune us out when we're not physically there. Like all new forms of communication, we need to adjust how info is presented.
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Post by Mav on Jul 26, 2010 12:05:15 GMT -6
Let's find out. We'll try it your way once, you try it our way once! Then we'll call Nike up, put together an clinic talk and let them fly us all over the US presenting our results! Sounds great - give Nike a call and see if they'll sponsor us Honestly, I (and most coaches) have been doing it 'your way' for many, many years. We didn't have a choice. We had one coaches station where I entered everything. It took me ~2-3 hours per game. Many times I was so tired I really didn't take the time to focus on studying the opponent until the next day. I've been the sole person cataloging scouting data for many, many years -- several years back, on legal pads, then with Proscout, more recently with one of the top, 'very expensive' systems, and now with Hudl. We discovered with Hudl's unlimited coaching stations, and divvying up of the data entry workload, the DC was able to really focus on the most critical offensive fields - formation and play. Maybe it's just me -- but I had to mentally be in 'data entry mode', for a couple of hours per game, to input all the data. Then I'd finally be relieved to mentally switch to 'scouting analysis mode' when the data entry was done. Having 75% of the supporting data already entered, let me switch immediately into 'scouting analysis mode'. BTW - before Hudl came along, the only coaching staffs that had the freedom to choose exactly how much data the lead coaches entered where div 1 colleges (almost unlimited GA support) and professional teams. How many lead coaches at those levels chose to enter ALL the data? I've been told the (mindless?) down/distance type support data is always entered by the most inexperienced QA member. In the end it, all comes down to choices. I surely like having the ability to choose what's the best data entry model for our team.
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Post by Mav on Jul 26, 2010 9:39:19 GMT -6
In the past coaches came in early Saturday morning and watched last nights game, then the players come in two hours later to watch last nights game. After we sent the players home we begin to watch next weeks opponent. On Monday afternoon we brought in the players to watch next weeks opponent. This has yielded terrible results. I am revamping this schedule as we speak! Like many of you have poijted out it is less important what they do if you aren't very good at what you do! This season we will not bring players in on Saturday (I have NEVER done this, and still a little worried about it!). Instead Coaches will use this time to get our act together. Review last night and determine what film that the kids MUST SEE. We need to do more with less, in other words less film and more coaching with that film. As for our opponents film, find what they do best, show our players a few examples of when their "bread and butter" plays worked well and also show what other teams did to beat it! As coaches we will work according to "CQ Miller" and his formula above. That is exactly what our breakdown will be. It is up to the coaches to coach the players to bring success. Coaches will watch film all week according to the success that they want to have in their position groups. I definitely see where you're coming from. It's a lot on the staff to have a game on Friday night and be 100% ready to review the film with the players the following morning. I personally have to watch it many, many times even before we get together as a staff to review it. There's no way I could thoroughly review it when we're all together watching it for the 1st time. That typically means late Friday nights and early Sat. mornings, but it's a great way to force you to get the past game 'out of your system' and move on. IMO, it's vital that EVERY staff member must review the game before we get together as a staff on Saturday morning.FWIW - a suggestion I'd make is to start filming team period during Tues and Wed practices, if you're not already doing so. All those little things we only corrected using game film, can now be taken care of during the week.
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Post by Mav on Jul 24, 2010 11:02:19 GMT -6
For our offense, we probably spend about 75% of the time watching ourselves vs 25% on our opponent's defense.
Defensively, it's the opposite - ~75% on their offense vs 25% on our defense. As dcohio mentioned, we fly through our defensive self-scout because we know exactly how it should look and where any breakdown took place.
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Post by Mav on Jul 24, 2010 7:57:17 GMT -6
We had an old timer on staff a couple of years back that insisted on having pickle juice available for every game. My QB comes to the sideline during a timeout, grabs a water bottle and squirts it on his face. You know what was in the bottle... pickle juice in the eyes isn't fun. He was only out for 1 play, but we never had pickle juice on the sidelines again.
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Post by Mav on Jul 23, 2010 17:53:05 GMT -6
Coaches .... The last post really hit a nerve with me. As a designer/producer of video editing software we have spent 1000's of hours creating a product that allows multiple coaches to "share the workload." Heck - we even make it a big deal in our literature. But ... my defensive coordinator HATES it when he doesn't do at least two games himself. All of it. Down, distance, hash, formation, formation variation, backfield, playtype, etc. Why? Because there is a FLOW to the game that you pick up when you watch it all and enter the data yourself. Your whole body learns. You start to make predictions about what the next play will be and you self-correct when it is not - or make an affirmation when it is. You start developing hunches. You go back and check out an idea when your mind starts to really "get-around" that of your opponent. You notice that the split end changes his split just a little bit when it is a toss play to his side ... etc. And we could do this without good editing software on any platform - maybe. We could I guess with an excel spreadsheet or a pretty cool "scout pen" and a yellow pad. But it is so much easier with good video editing software. My point - there are many tasks to share - but defensive coordinators might want to think twice before "sharing the work". Just maybe. Jack Rarick Holt Football www.coachsvideoassistant.comCoach, I definitely understand your point about a DC getting the feel for the flow of the game, but I'm not sure how that relates to physically ENTERING ALL the data. We've found that sharing the workload by having other staff members add the 'supporting' data(ODK, yardline, down, dist, gain, play type, etc) BEFORE the DC adds the most critical data - formation and play, makes his job much faster and more focused. He'll still get a thorough feel for the flow of the game, without the laborious add'l data entry chores. He'll just read/absorb it. Maybe have your DC give it a try sometime. I think he'll be surprised how he'll still be able to make all the hunches and predictions, with all the SUPPORTING data already there. But he still must enter the formations (and learn all the adjustment 'tells') and the actual plays (so he can mentally group them).
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Post by Mav on Jul 21, 2010 7:35:17 GMT -6
I've been talking to the APEX people for a while. Can anyone tell me how hudl and apex compare? One of the things I really like about apex is the scouting reports it generates. It seemed like I would save a lot of time compared to computing tendencies by hand. How does hudl compare in it's scouting/tendencies reporting? Thanks There's a reason you'll see coaches selling their old software in the Classified area since Hudl came out last year. coachhuey.com/index.cgi?board=classifieds&action=display&thread=39319We think the Hudl reports are much more concise and streamlined. Here's a link to their 5 standard offensive reports - coachhuey.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=39701&page=1#387833Many of us tried the 30 day free trial of Hudl and saw how powerful and intuative a scouting app can be... for a fraction of the cost. Check out the cost comparison -
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Post by Mav on Jul 18, 2010 13:54:56 GMT -6
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Post by Mav on Jul 18, 2010 13:18:07 GMT -6
We believe the most important area to focus on, as soon as you have an editing system, is exactly how to get the info you need from the data. The best approach may be to gather the basic data - ODK, yardline, hash, down, dist, gain, play type(run or pass), run gap/pass zone, formation and play. With this detail data you'll be able to create their standard offensive reports. From these reports you'll be able to determine which plays you'll need to focus on/stop first. In our experience most teams are either 1) play based - run the same plays from several formations or 2) formation based - run a group of plays from specific formations. BTW - these reports are all linked directly to the actual plays. Clicking on the name or values will bring you directly to the play clips. Summary Report Hit Chart Formation Report (1 example - you'll get a page for each formation) Field Zone Report Down/Distance Report
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Post by Mav on Jul 16, 2010 15:57:19 GMT -6
I now have the youth version of Hudl. I do not have any film to upload. Any Hudl account holders out there want to send some film to my account so I can practice editing and using the software before we get started full force? thanks. Todd Coach, by far the best thing you can do to learn the system is to get a hold of game film from last season. It can be on DVD, mini-dv tape, HDD camcorder, online, etc. We published our complete prior season over the 1st weekend we had Hudl. We had a bunch of players creating highlights in the 1st week. They loved it and we learned the system. Let me know if you not able to and I'll send you a link to a game video file you can use.
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Post by Mav on Jul 16, 2010 8:29:56 GMT -6
You'll get that message if your search is too broad. Try limiting the numbers of days back and/or the areas you're searching.
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Post by Mav on Jul 1, 2010 15:46:04 GMT -6
As a school, we are getting Hudl for all of our sports. I"m assuming you can have each coach set up his own sport/access list, is this correct? You'll have someone assigned to be the lead person for the Hudl system for your school. That person can add as many teams, for as many sports as you'd like. Each individual team will then have an administrator who will add the players and coaches for their team. That's right. You can use the Hudl Editor offline when you don't have internet access. In addition, if you purchase the Gold package you can also create 'presentations' that can be used on or offline. This method gives you access to all the advanced online features like walkthroughs, telestrations and notes, while you're offline.
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Post by Mav on Jun 30, 2010 12:47:21 GMT -6
Mav, we are also building are own endzone camera this season. Let me know any tips or tricks you might have to make the process streamlined. We are in the planning phase right now so any advice is greatly apreciated. There's quite a few coaches who have built their own EZ systems for short money. I'll start a thread in the Tech section when we get going. Coach Johnson has a nice write up and video of his system - www.hudl.com/blog/comments/make-your-own-end-zone-camera-system-for-800/
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Post by Mav on Jun 29, 2010 21:18:13 GMT -6
I am struggling with getting our practices filmed. The head coach doesn't want a parent to do it because he doesn't want them that involved. I'm sure we've all got opinions on that, but that's not really the point. I just want friggin practice taped. Watching our game film from last year, I am still PO'd at myself for playing one kid the whole year last year. I had a couple of other guys I should've played over him and I directly relate it to not being able to watch flim practice. Well that and the fact that apparently I suck at evaluating talent. So who films your practices? Also for you HUDL guys, are y'all trying to make me believe that I can get off the field, meet with whoever, plan the next day and go home and practice will be waiting for me on the internet? GET OUT!!!! We have an asst coach responsible for filming practice. We currently use a scissor lift and our AD won't allow any students up in it. We're working on building an endzone tripod for the upcoming season. We're talking to a couple of potential student assts. We used Hudl walkthroughs extensively for our practice video. It was by far the best teaching tool we've ever experienced. We used Hudl to communicate with our fellow coaches, as much as we did to coach up the players. I'd check online to see which players had been able to watch the practice video before the next practice. If they didn't go online to review the day before's practice, we'd go over the notes with them individually while they're getting ready for practice.
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Post by Mav on Jun 29, 2010 19:02:04 GMT -6
How do I convince my head coach to switch to Hudl, thats my only question. Hes kind of challenged when it comes to technology but he expects me and another guy to have everything broken down every week with this Apex program which uses voice recognition which works about 10% of the time. If you need someone to discuss the switch to Hudl with your HC, PM me. We made the switch last season and can help explain all the areas where you'll save time and improve your teaching.
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Post by Mav on Jun 28, 2010 17:43:25 GMT -6
How is it with loading game films off of DVD's? That is the media form our Section uses when exchanging films. I know that it will be a Real-Time upload of the game, but as long as I can use that format...I don't really care about the time as it would still be faster & more efficient with the breakdown aspect. Hudl was the 1st scouting app that has the ability to rip video directly off a DVD. It takes about 5 minutes to rip a full game. One of their best features is the auto scene detection. After it's done ripping the video, it'll scan the game video and cut it up into individual play clips. This feature alone save us about 30-40 minutes per scout DVD. None of their competitors have this awesome feature.
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Post by Mav on Jun 27, 2010 15:01:14 GMT -6
Does the yearly fee allow you to use that for other sports within the same year of the subscription?? So if our AD purchased it for us to use with football, could basketball also use it as long as we stay within our hourly film limits? I don't believe so. The second sport get a subscription for half price - $400 for Silver or $700 for Gold. Keep in mind each sport includes the boys and girls teams at all levels. If you get a 3rd sport interested, you get a full site license for your whole school. Every sport, at every level gets a Hudl subscription for only $1,600 for the Silver package, or $2,800 for the Gold. Our AD (who's also the soccer coach) was so impressed, he bought the full site license -- now our Gridiron club doesn't have to pay anything. Maybe get a couple of other sports interested and approach your AD? You may want to also explain the highlight/recruiting feature too. Many AD's love giving their student athletes a competitive edge in recruiting. It's great PR for the school's administration.
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Post by Mav on Jun 27, 2010 12:29:14 GMT -6
Does it matter what kind of camera you use. For instance will it be quicker or more efficient to use a minidv as opposed to a camera with a harddrive or vice versa. We are miniDV. Used it last year. Real time loading. Visited with a rep back in April. He said the harddrive cameras will load faster. I've always liked the DV tapes so I can collect them and keep them. I'm leaning towards a harddrive camera and just load everything to DVD for storage. However, I just go back to previous uploaded games on hudl. Very fast. Can find exact play within seconds. coachwood, you might want to check out 'live' capturing your sideline view. One of the good things about mini-dv camcorders is they use Firewire that can communicate between your camcorder and laptop. The Hudl Editor will recognize the pause/record button being hit and create the 'live' clips on your laptop and mini-dv tape simultaneously. The tape's great as an archive backup. If you have someone available, you can also add data live. We had our cameraman just enter ODK last year. This year we're going to try to have someone else add down, dist, yardline, (and possibly more) to see how it goes. BTW - We use a Sony flashdrive camcorder for endzone and scouting. We load the complete game into the Hudl Editor in less than 5 minutes -- But live capturing is the best IMO. Like everything with Hudl, it's extremely simple.
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Post by Mav on Jun 27, 2010 11:47:15 GMT -6
I noticed on the "Silver" package, they give you 10 hours of practice and scout video storage......Can you go back and delete some games and add new ones as the year goes on? (for example: I have six hours of scout video during week one....can I delete that and add the new scout footage of our opponent for week two? Or is that first six hours of video locked in?) (hope this question makes sense...) Absolutely YES. You'll see that a full scout game will only take up 30-40 mins -- so that's 15-20 scout games for the Silver package. If you start running out of space, just delete an old scout game or two. Remember, if needed, you can always re-upload any deleted games too.
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Post by Mav on Jun 25, 2010 18:23:31 GMT -6
Most of us know how great the Hudl software is now, but IMO the best is yet to come. Their development team is so incredible, the sky's the limit -- high def(how about their own OnDemand HD cable channel ?), 3D, playbooks and scout card diagramming, interactive training and testing, visual data entry, and probably many more useful features no one has thought of yet. Should be a fun ride...
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Post by Mav on Jun 24, 2010 12:58:52 GMT -6
I think about half this forum. Not me, not yet, but I'm very tempted. Does their software take FullHD video? because, ironically, it's all I have and it causes more problems sometimes than it's worth with software issues. Looking for a solution. They're expecting to fully support importing HD video very soon -- before the season starts. That'll be the 1st step towards supporting HD throughout the system. We're really looking forward to viewing our games in full HD from their servers. I'm not sure about everyone else, but after getting used to watching HD television, I find it tough to watch standard def TV now - Everything seems so blurry.
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Post by Mav on Jun 16, 2010 6:18:34 GMT -6
We've been in similar situations several times over the years -- a very experienced former coordinator or HC looking to join our staff. We've found it's extremely critical that you lay out YOUR defensive and offensive systems and philosophies. Be very firm and clear that you're NOT looking for major changes. Define EXACTLY what his role on the staff will be - position coach, advisor, ST Coord, etc. He'll either walk away or get onboard.
FWIW - it's never worked out for us. It's ranged from never joining the staff, to an absolute nightmare season of constant friction, to the coach just walking away at the end of the year, because they wanted more control.
As others have stated, the fact that he's even mentioned changes already is a HUGE RED FLAG!!!
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Post by Mav on Apr 21, 2010 5:23:48 GMT -6
I HATE DVDs!!!
In a lot of ways, us coaches took a step back when going from the bulletproof VHS tape to DVDs. We were constantly worrying - will it freeze, get jumpy, just stop playing, etc. The only time our team deals with DVD disks now is with opponent trades. We load it into the computer and never see the disk again.
Can't wait until there's some kind of standard way to easily trade online -- then we'll never have to touch a DVD disk again!
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