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Post by bignose on Feb 4, 2019 18:19:39 GMT -6
On the Rams first third-down play, Claiborne burst inside on a stunt, rushed Goff into a throw and smashed him into the turf. (Clayborn admitted that he had actually made a communication mistake with a linebacker on the play and would receive a film study demerit from Belichick).
Film study demerit? I have never heard of such a thing. Sure is a way to make professional athletes accountable!
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Post by bignose on Feb 4, 2019 17:41:50 GMT -6
Very "Old School" kinda game.
Bend, don't break defense.
Decided lack and inability to make big plays.
Field position and kicking game..........opportunistic offense. (we rode that horse to several State Championships).
"Interesting" game as a coach, but I'm sure it was a terrible game for the average spectator.
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Post by bignose on Feb 3, 2019 19:57:10 GMT -6
When I paper scouted I tried to record and diagram the following info on the fly:
Offense
1. Down and Distance 2. Hash mark 3. Formation Diagram including backfield alignment, change in splits and alignments that might be tells. 4. Motion-dotted line 5. Player numbers-done on first series, plus any subs 6. QB RH or LH, good runner or not, throwing range and accuracy. Depth of drop and release time. Ball handling and play fakes. (might be a little side note-i.e. good fake) 7. Blocking scheme 8. Hole hit (ball carrier is shaded in) backs movements and actions (fakes, cuts) Type of play (draw, lead, dive tc.) 9. Receiver routes. dotted line indicating pass thrown 10. Defense alignment against them
Defense ( I did not diagram every defensive play, only the base look plus adjustments)
1. Alignment of front- middle of field, hash, short yardage. Odd or even set. (when I started we saw mostly 5-2 and a little 4-4) 2. Secondary alignment and reaction. inside or outside leverage? zone or man? 3. Personnel-who is weak, who should we avoid? 4. Blitz tendency 5. Slants and stunts 6. Short yardage front
Special Teams 1. Kickoff formation and depth- diagramed 2. Kickoff return -diagramed 3. Punt formation distance and hang time. diagramed. punter RF or LF? 4. Punt return. block of planned return? 5. P.A.T. kicked or not, protection, holder, kicker's range 6. P.A.T. block -overload side. are the outside covered for a fake?
Some of this info was diagrammed-offense every play. There would be a lot of running side notes on each play that I would have to go back and make sense of and then consolidate after the game.
It is a heck of a lot easier to get tells from film, but you miss a lot as well. I prefer to arrive early and watch warmups if possible. The playing field back then was level, much like it is now with Hudl. Every body had to paper scout if they wanted to win.
When video cameras first came out there were haves and have nots due to the expense of the equipment. And for a while it was illegal to video a scout game without permission.
God forbid if it rained! (clipboards in plastic bags and lots of extra pencils-ink ran when wet!
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Post by bignose on Feb 3, 2019 18:19:40 GMT -6
At least they are padding off of film on their desktop computers! And they have multiple views of every play.
When I started out (early 1970s) I had to "paper scout" live on the fly during games on pre-printed scouting forms and then rewrite them after the game. I learned more about football from doing this than any other experience.
Film exchange? No way, film was too expensive and hard to come by!
Video tape changed that in the mid to late 1980s. Remember the bulky VHS cameras?
I got pretty good at this, confident enough that I could "scout in ink" no pencils. Lol
Hudl has spoiled an entire generation of younger coaches.
I still take written notes while watching Hudl and my reports indicate which video clip I am referring to figuring that a picture is worth 1,000 words.
On the High School level I am cognizant of the fact that you can produce "too much information" beyond what the staff and the kids can process and apply.
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Post by bignose on Jan 16, 2019 20:42:16 GMT -6
In Maryland there is a public school championship (MPSSAA) and there are a couple of private school leagues that have their own championships.
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Post by bignose on Jan 11, 2019 10:32:41 GMT -6
If you know someone who works for the highway department or in construction, the road barrels used as traffic markers have handles built into the top.
(Of course, I am not advocating liberating some via creative acquisition.....just sayin).
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Post by bignose on Nov 21, 2018 14:09:41 GMT -6
I have seen, Wing T teams that break the huddle, sprint to the line and snap the ball quickly. Get away with throwing a forward pass to a covered up TE. Or they use the ineligible TE to clear out a zone. They work so fast that the referees very rarely catch it. We had that exact situation happen to us in 1997 in the State Semi Final game. We played a team that was much better than we were. The offense broke the huddle with a TE lined up where the weak side tackle would normally line up. The split end was off of the LOS so the TE was uncovered, but the offense didn't have enough men on the LOS. It was pouring, 35 degrees, and the officials missed it. The pass was incomplete. At half time, as I was taking a leak, I noticed an official at the urinal next to me in the locker room. Talk about a "captive audience." I mentioned this violation to him and asked him to look out for it in the second half. Sure enough, our opponent tried this again, I hollered down from the press box over the headsets, and the official flagged them for an illegal formation. The kid who went out for the pass said something: 15 more yards for unsportsmanlike conduct. Then their bench went apeshit and there were two more consecutive unsportsmanlike conduct penalties called. I have never seen, before or after this, 50 yards of penalties walked off on one play. Did I mention that it was pouring? Field position in this game was paramount. We won 3-0 Lesson: sometimes when ya cheat ya get caught. Live with the consequences.
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Post by bignose on Oct 8, 2018 9:11:15 GMT -6
We have had this happen twice this year due to lightning. Once a postponement to Monday (field wasn't available) and once from Friday night to Saturday a.m.
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Post by bignose on Oct 2, 2018 20:12:09 GMT -6
At the very least the #76 kid should never be allowed to play football again. Period! This was a criminal assault, not a football play.
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Post by bignose on Jun 24, 2018 15:55:15 GMT -6
Sounds like good coaching to me.
I don't know about good coaching, except to recognize the potential, don't over-coach him, give him the ball, and let him run!
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Post by bignose on Jun 24, 2018 12:02:42 GMT -6
We had a young man come to us from a youth league team where he was "size limited" to be a lineman. Too big to be a running back.
We changed that when he got to ninth grade.
He was the fastest 100 meter kid in the State by his senior year at 215 pounds. He wasn't going to juke anybody, had no real moves, no finesse, he was either going to outrun them, or just run them over.
He is now a starting linebacker in the NFL.
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Post by bignose on Jun 6, 2018 17:08:41 GMT -6
In what seems to be a final resolution of this situation, St. Frances will now play an "National" schedule including teams from Florida, New York, Connecticut, Virginia, and four teams from Canada. Only one team from Maryland will play them, D.C. area powerhouse Good Counsel. The league is trying to determine if the teams who refused to play them will have the dropped games count as a forfeit in their records.
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Post by bignose on Jun 5, 2018 15:20:08 GMT -6
I had an interesting conversation with one of my former players today about this school. He coaches at a prep school in New York.
He has a very different perspective, and I see his point of view:
First of all he is glad that many of these kids are getting the opportunity to get a college education, many at colleges they otherwise would never be able to attend.
Secondly, in his opinion, the recruiting wars are overblown. After all, now that this school has the reputation for placing kids into top flight programs, the kids are flocking to this school for the chance to play, even if they are not on the first team.
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Post by bignose on Jun 5, 2018 7:11:14 GMT -6
The reporter in question was one of three who has written about situation. He was trying to stir $hit up by playing the race card. The other reporters were far more objective.
I avoid sports related social media like the plague. Most participants are know nothings and wannabe coaches. And all have personal agendas.
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Post by bignose on Jun 4, 2018 20:13:35 GMT -6
Yet another team in the league decided not to play St. Frances this fall, citing safety issues. That makes four so far. If one is to believe the scuttlebutt that has been circulating in the local papers, some of this is payback for the rather blatant recruiting of other team's players.
One of the writers in a local paper told the withdrawing teams to quit complaining and simply emulate St. Frances in the recruiting wars. He doesn't mention the $400,000.00+ dollars kicked in by their HC yearly to house, feed, equip, and educate the kids. Kinda hard for most schools, even wealthy prep schools, to compete with that.
BTW, they were ranked #4 in USA Today's poll last year.
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Post by bignose on Jun 2, 2018 16:55:28 GMT -6
I have been following this situation closely. Here are some of the facts:
The school is a very small (172 total students) predominately African American Catholic school in a very impoverished part of Baltimore. It is the oldest Catholic School in the country.
They compete in a private School league that has several other much larger Catholic Schools and a couple of high end prep schools in it. It is a very competitive league, and there was a lot of competition for players, including recruiting public school student athletes. In Maryland, the private schools do not compete against the public schools for State Championships. They have their own leagues.
They discontinued and then reintroduced football several years ago, and they were not very good. One of my former players coached there at this time.
They brought in a new coaching staff a couple of years ago. The new head coach had previously been at one of the prep schools for 17 years. He brought his staff with him. The current co-head coach laid out $60,00 of his own money (he is a hedge fund manager) as a seed fund. He spent a year as a co-head coach at the University of Michigan, then returned. He sponsors 40 kids at over $9,000 per year tuition, plus finds housing for many of them. According to the school, many of these kids are considered "homeless". They recruit heavily, not only kids from the local area, but several from out of State and the Mid Atlantic Region:, Philly, Virginia, and France ( kid is 6'-5" and weighs 286). The thought is that they are trying to be the IMG Academy of Maryland.
Some of their recruiting tactics are high pressure, going into the public schools, emailing and texting kids constantly. Some of this is questionable ethically. (If I found that a coach from another school was coming into my building and asking the guidance department for grade records, I'd have him thrown out of the building so fast that his ass would leave skid marks on the floor) One of the public school ADs provided proof of this. When I hear coaches at the private schools talk about their "recruiting budget," all I can do as a coach in the public school system is shake my head. We are bound by strictly enforced residency requirements. There are few ways around these but for the most part, you play with those you got.
To say they are loaded is an understatement. They had 11 kids sign D1 scholarships last year. One of their recruiting ploys is to guarantee kids that they will get a D1 scholarship.
The other schools in the league are dealing with parents who are afraid that the physical mismatches will result in injuries to their kids. There are questions about liability due to the significant disparity of size and talent.
A co-head coach in the program described those teams who refused to play this team of essentially high school all stars, as cowards.
And then there is the race card being played. Most of the other schools in the league are predominately white. It's a very unfortunate situation.
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Post by bignose on Apr 22, 2018 11:07:51 GMT -6
Million Dollar Idea for somebody: A shoulder pad integrated HANS device for the football helmet. They tried straps, and collars as a way of restraining helmet movement, but as I recall, the straps in particular, created more problems than they solved. In some cases the leverage actually increased the force on the neck. Soft helmets wouldn't work either, unless a way can be found to keep soft padding exteriors from tending to stick as they hit, causing torque on the neck, rather than sliding off one another as the hard shells do. The bottom line is that nobody wants a helmet that makes them look like a bobble head. I guess that as an "old fart" I think about ball carriers like Jim Brown, Larry Czonka, and John Riggins, runners who would lower their helmet and drive thru defenders. This is now an illegal tactic, and I can't wait to hear the uproar when some of the power runners in the league getting kicked out for doing this.
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Post by bignose on Apr 20, 2018 6:56:54 GMT -6
In my league the juniors are required to be on the Varsity only, and the underclassmen form the JV.
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Post by bignose on Mar 28, 2018 16:03:02 GMT -6
OK so they got rid of the screwed up catch rule and replaced it with this ridiculous and impossible to officiate new rule.
I understand that the intent is to attempt to appear to be cutting down on head injuries, but really? This will just lengthen the game more as they go to replay to check to see if the officials got it right (sell more beer).
And wait until star players get ejected for lowering the head while running the ball, as they duck to keep from getting decapitated...... Maybe try coming up with a safer helmet?
And they refuse to do anything about pass interference? I hate having an official's judgement call making such a huge difference in the game: It's 3rd and 10 and we're behind by 5 points. Go out 30 yards and get interfered with seems to be a good huddle call! I like the college rule better and change the catch requirement to only having one foot in bounds to balance this out.
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Post by bignose on Mar 22, 2018 20:16:10 GMT -6
Associate yourself with good people and successful people. Never stop learning! With the onset of the internet, your learning possibilities are virtually endless!
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Post by bignose on Feb 25, 2018 11:07:44 GMT -6
The last school I coached at had 27 different entrances. The middle school I taught at for 29 years had 15. No matter how well secured, the doors have to open outwards (fire dept. regulations), and all can be opened from the inside by pushing them open. The typical reaction to some one banging on the door is to open it for them, especially in high traffic ares, such as near the gym or cafeteria.
But it is not just the schools that provide soft targets. As we have seen, movie theaters, night clubs, concerts, malls, high school sporting events, and any place where the general public may gather is subject to an attack with weapons. Tell me how a good guy with a gun could have done anything in a situation such as Las Vegas?
It is not just the schools! If the schools become better protected, the atrocities will just happen someplace else.
I admit, as a suburban grown-up, I was not brought up with a gun culture. I do not think that more guns are the answer. I have thoughts on how to deal with this, but this football forum is not the place to discuss it. There are too many folks who all have varying degrees of passion on both sides of the aguement.
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Post by bignose on Feb 18, 2018 15:38:20 GMT -6
For the last several years prior to my retirement, I was the "School Safety Officer."
In the even of an incident, I was supposed to assess and secure the situation, after my students were protected. In addition to shootings, I was expected to go through the building to examine the structure in case of storm damage, explosions, etc.
The "Site Incident Commander" was my Principal, who would have been useless, and the next in the Chain of Command was the "Parent Liaison Officer", a music teacher, who was responsible to prevent the parents from interfering, remaining outside of the parking lot, and communicating with them.
I was the guy who was expected to go through the building during and immediately after any incident occurred, until the first responders showed up.
To that end I was given a bright orange vest to wear, and a notebook with a check list. I figured this was to make me a better target....the kids could move faster than I could.
To start what I am sure will be another discussion, anytime someone tells me that teacher's should be armed, ( and I taught in a school where a gun was fired), I think of the vast majority of the people I taught with, and realize the fact that they would be just as dangerous to themselves and the kids as any perpetrator would be.
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Post by bignose on Feb 16, 2018 20:47:29 GMT -6
Chuck Klausing, long time coach , Wing T guru, and a really nice guy, died on February 15, at the age of 92.
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Post by bignose on Feb 6, 2018 21:27:43 GMT -6
Turning 30?
I've got socks older than you.
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Post by bignose on Feb 6, 2018 16:30:10 GMT -6
This seemed to change in the late 1950s. Most of the text books and coaching manuals dated before this period used Xs and Os. By the early to mid 1960s almost all coaching books changed to Vs and later to actual letters designating defensive players.
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Post by bignose on Jan 8, 2018 19:39:16 GMT -6
All a part of "Football IQ."
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Post by bignose on Jan 3, 2018 16:49:57 GMT -6
If you decide to let it go - yell "HOT HOT HOT!!" (as in "Hot Potato") so teammates will locate ball and run off field away from ball so as to avoid inadvertent touching or a blocking penalty.
True story: The University of Tennessee used the call: "Peter!, Peter!, Peter!" to warn the receiving team of a non handled punt and to get away. The reason that they used Peter was : You don't play with your Peter in public!
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Post by bignose on Nov 24, 2017 14:53:25 GMT -6
Outstanding!
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Post by bignose on Oct 27, 2017 14:38:43 GMT -6
I don't see this particular situation being either unethical or unsportsmanlike. It's in the first half, and the clock will be in running time in the second half.
You want an example of unsportsmanlike / unethical? Many years ago, I witnessed a JV game where a team is up by 40, sores and goes for 2. They succeed. 48-0. Then on the ensuing kickoff, they onside kick, recover this, and begin throwing 35 yard bombs into the end zone with their first string in. And there is like 2 minutes left in the game. The losing coach refused to shake hands with the winner at the end of the game, he got censured for his lack of sportsmanship.
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Post by bignose on Oct 19, 2017 10:37:31 GMT -6
I've been doing this for wellover 40 years. If I want to introduce new system, I can pretty much "reverse engineer" it if enough video is available. Hudl and the internet make that possible.
That's for the "big picture" but when it comes to the subtle nuances of application of various techniques, especially if you are not a very experienced coach, buying a system makes a lot of sense.
Example, I've coached the Wing-T dozens of times as a scout offense, enough to show our defense the playsI I know the plays and series, quite well. But if I wanted to install it, I would get a system, if only to see exactly what the footwork and blocking scheme were. It's one thing to have a scout team run a Buck Sweep, it's a whole other deal to run this to perfection as an identity play against any defense you may come across.
Too many "Daddy" coaches try to reverse engineer something that they see on Saturday, or worse Sunday, and don't get it when their 10 year old can't do what an "All World" QB can do. Unrealistic and not skill level appropriate.
I will confess, we purchased a rather popular system a couple of years ago. All of this Coach's diagrams and video clips were run vs. a 7 man front. Guess what, some of his concepts weren't sound vs. an 8 man front. And 3/4 of our opponents were in 8 man fronts. He and I exchanged some ideas over the phone, but the bottom line was an 8 man front limited us to like 2 plays out of his package. Waste of time, and money.
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