Public vs private

We do in Virginia.

In Maryland there is a public school championship (MPSSAA) and there are a couple of private school leagues that have their own championships.

In New York it varies from section to section. Where I'm from in Section VI (Buffalo area) we do not allow private schools to compete with the public schools for championships and a private vs. public school game is rare. Most of our private schools near Buffalo have to go out of state for games. In Section V (Rochester) they allow private and public to compete together for the championships (Aquinas from Rochester has typically been a dominant force for a while there).

In Southern California we do not separate; playoff brackets though have no connection to leagues, school size, or anything like that.

Every year they redo playoff divisions based on previous two year records/power points. The top 16 teams in each division make the playoffs each year, the better division the less amount of teams. So the top division D1 will have 17 teams and 16 make the playoffs, D13 will have approx 80 teams and 16 make the playoffs.

Private schools are spread throughout, but there are a lot clumped in the bottom 2 divisions, where schools of 300 kids end up playing schools of 2,000 in the playoffs- mainly because those big schools couldnt hang with schools of equal size so they are rewarded for being bad.

In GA there is a separate league for the really small private schools. But most privates are part of the GHSA along with all of the public schools. There is a multiplier used for privates and city schools based upon where their population comes from. The lowest classification in GA has separate public and private state championships. All of the other classes can have privates mixed in and they compete with the public schools for the state championship. Most of the really good private schools here play up in division anyway to keep geographic rivals.

No separation in Iowa or Illinois. IL has a 1.65 multiplier in place that generally moves schools up one class plus a "success factor" that may move them up an additional class. No multiplier or anything for Iowa private schools.

It is also hard for the Southern Az schools to compete with the Phoenix schools as well..

I would say toying with is a strong word to describe the situation.  More like a group of administrators making noise about having separate divisions and the PIAA not even looking into the issue.  Won't happen with out a huge fight due to the state law passed in the 70's allowing private schools in, think it's actually part of state constitution cause of that law.

We do not separate public/private in CA... up until a couple years ago i always thought we should but now i really dont think it matters

some of the public schools do way more recruiting than the private schools

Yeah i agree buti dont think it will happen, nor do i think the PIAA should, its rediculous anyway

Noone ever made a peep when the teams in the west dominated for decades, but once the teams in the east start winning titles, all the sudden its "unfair"

SC Just won what ? Its 9th, nobody says anything ...

Its different on the left side of the state

But it still wasn't much of an issue until District 12 started winning repeated titles that's when it seemed to all the sudden become "unfair"


The lesser competitive schools in this area don't seem to have as much of an issue with it as the school's out west (and some north) do for some reason.

For ex you dont hear any PCL schools complaining about SJP, who is the ECP of the east.

They just play ball.

ECP beat us again this year...they were a better team, nobody here was b!tching about it

SJP wins another...."holy $hit its so unfair something must be done" etc...

It's almost like winning is some kind of right or something with these people who have issues with it

Sad

Missouri here.

We give a 1.35 multiplier but IMO that is not nearly enough. In STL, a lot of small private schools have loaded up with rosters full of D1 blue chip recruits, and putting those kids against schools like where I’m at now, a rural community where a D2 kid might get a statue built for him, is unfair.

Trinity Catholic is about 400 in enrollment (9-12) and had 100 division one offers in this year’s junior class ALONE. That’s not even their most talented class, either. Their Senior class was loaded with offers from Texas, Bama, etc. and sophomores are talented as well. Their entire OL is 6’5 300 lb guys with a literal All-American QB, and their best defender was a 4* with offers from LSU, Texas, and Bama. I’m pretty sure literally every starter had some type of a D1 or D2 offer.

STL has other schools of similar size such as Cardinal Ritter, Lutheran, and Lutheran North. John Burroughs was this way when they had Ezekiel Elliot as well. Putting these teams up against little farming schools where kids might have to miss practice/weights for FFA is silly.

Either private schools need their own separate classification, or they need a 2.0 multiplier. The 1.35 just moves them to the top of their class, but 2.0 at least guarantees they’re playing one class higher. Trinity literally had to play Colquitt County, a 7A powerhouse from GA, because nobody of any class wants to play them around here. Something needs to be done.