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Post by wiscoach on Jun 23, 2018 17:54:16 GMT -6
He's a senior, went from 5'11 165 as a junior to 6'2 200. Added 100 pounds to bench and 150 to squat. Ran a 11.9 100 which is pretty fast for our rural area. He's tough and scrappy but not very football smart. When I told him he's probably gonna have to carry the ball he was worried because "there's a lot more to remember as a running back than as an o lineman right coach?"
That had me laughing. We run power, buck, and toss.
Im a little worried because he's not the most graceful kid and ball security is an issue but the size/speed difference between him and number 2 is huge.
You guys have any good position change stories? Hopefully successful ones because RB is one of our only question marks.
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Post by mattharris75 on Jun 23, 2018 18:15:52 GMT -6
Seems like every year we have one. This season it will be our backup running back from last year as our starting left guard. Looking great so far!
Kids grow and change, and in their own time. That's just the nature of it at the high school level. Nothing to worry about!
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Post by fantom on Jun 23, 2018 18:19:58 GMT -6
He's a senior, went from 5'11 165 as a junior to 6'2 200. Added 100 pounds to bench and 150 to squat. Ran a 11.9 100 which is pretty fast for our rural area. He's tough and scrappy but not very football smart. When I told him he's probably gonna have to carry the ball he was worried because "there's a lot more to remember as a running back than as an o lineman right coach?" That had me laughing. We run power, buck, and toss. Im a little worried because he's not the most graceful kid and ball security is an issue but the size/speed difference between him and number 2 is huge. You guys have any good position change stories? Hopefully successful ones because RB is one of our only question marks. A guy from my HS who graduated a couple of years after me went to a small college in the same conference that mine was in. He was a QB in HS and his freshman year in college. When we played, they're starting QB got hurt and Ernie had to play. He was not good. The next year, I was playing MLB and on the first play the center broke the huddle, ran to the line, and it was Ernie. |
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Post by fantom on Jun 23, 2018 18:25:06 GMT -6
He's a senior, went from 5'11 165 as a junior to 6'2 200. Added 100 pounds to bench and 150 to squat. Ran a 11.9 100 which is pretty fast for our rural area. He's tough and scrappy but not very football smart. When I told him he's probably gonna have to carry the ball he was worried because "there's a lot more to remember as a running back than as an o lineman right coach?" That had me laughing. We run power, buck, and toss. Im a little worried because he's not the most graceful kid and ball security is an issue but the size/speed difference between him and number 2 is huge. You guys have any good position change stories? Hopefully successful ones because RB is one of our only question marks. I know of two guys who were moved from guard to TB, became all-state RB's, then played the position at D.1 colleges. |
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Post by wiscoach on Jun 23, 2018 18:34:54 GMT -6
I know of two guys who were moved from guard to TB, became all-state RB's, then played the position at D.1 colleges. Now that's what I'm talking about! Our o-line should be pretty dang good, 2nd team all conference is all I'm asking for lol. |
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Post by carookie on Jun 23, 2018 21:34:31 GMT -6
Had a kid a few years big who was a solid stocky RB/LB type: 5'9" 220, decent hips and feet. Coming into his senior year he was gonna be a starter on both sides of the ball, problem is we have virtually NO DLs.
This was a small school with about 30 guys in the program top to bottom, we are stacked at LBer with 6 guys who could contribute and be good players (1 who was light years ahead and 1 who was okay but still a year away); so I (LB coach) tell the HC (DL Coach) to PLEASE take two of them and put them on the line cause we got nobody else; specifically put this stocky kid at nose. HC refuses with his line of thinking, 'how we gonna get a kid recruited if his positions are RB/Nose Guard, that would look silly to a college.'
Well after 2 games of giving up a ton of points to start the season we finally make the move; both LBers become all league, we win the league, and kid ends up playing DL for a small d3.
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Post by Defcord on Jun 24, 2018 10:16:45 GMT -6
The best nose I ever coached was converted from DB. Just couldn’t process his reads from that position. Put him over the center and as 5’7”ish 160 lbs athlete he wreaked havoc. We had a few D1 kids on that team but he was the one opposing coaches always mentioned after games about how they gave them head aches to game plan for. He was a legit 4.5 and wrestled so he had a great combination of quickness and leverage.
He was so fast off the ball at times that one of our assistants who was opppsed to the move said that he looked like a tecmo bowl glitch.
Tried that same move with similar kids before but similar isn’t the same so didn’t workout.
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Post by fantom on Jun 24, 2018 10:38:36 GMT -6
Another guy we had was supposed to be our next great TB/LB. He looked the part: big, fast, tough, and smart. Through the first couple of games, though, he was awful. He had no vision or instincts at either position. We finally moved him and he became a pretty good WR and a GREAT 5 tech.
The funny thing was that this happened at every level in the game. A JC, SEC school, NFL Europe, the NFL, and Canada all ended up converting him from a terrible LB to a great DE (He didn't make the NFL though because he was just too small.
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Post by bignose on Jun 24, 2018 12:02:42 GMT -6
We had a young man come to us from a youth league team where he was "size limited" to be a lineman. Too big to be a running back.
We changed that when he got to ninth grade.
He was the fastest 100 meter kid in the State by his senior year at 215 pounds.
He wasn't going to juke anybody, had no real moves, no finesse, he was either going to outrun them, or just run them over.
He is now a starting linebacker in the NFL.
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Post by 19delta on Jun 24, 2018 12:44:03 GMT -6
A school in our conference that was the 2a state champs last year has a 6-3, 240lbs kid who played OL and TE the last 2 years. If he gets moved to FB or RB this year (will be a junior) he will probably be the best running back in the conference.
This is small-school football (school has around 300 students) and this kid has a legit FBS body and talent. Was also a state qualifier in the shotput and both the 400m and 800m relay.
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Post by blb on Jun 24, 2018 12:56:37 GMT -6
A school in our conference that was the 2a state champs last year has a 6-3, 240lbs kid who played OL and TE the last 2 years. If he gets moved to FB or RB this year (will be a junior) he will probably be the best running back in the conference. This is small-school football (school has around 300 students) and this kid has a legit FBS body and talent. Was also a state qualifier in the shotput and both the 400m and 800m relay.
Well if you can't design a defense (Xs and Os) to stop him you're not a very good coach.
j/k
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Post by blb on Jun 24, 2018 13:17:30 GMT -6
We had a young man come to us from a youth league team where he was "size limited" to be a lineman. Too big to be a running back. We changed that when he got to ninth grade. He was the fastest 100 meter kid in the State by his senior year at 215 pounds. He wasn't going to juke anybody, had no real moves, no finesse, he was either going to outrun them, or just run them over. He is now a starting linebacker in the NFL.
Sounds like good coaching to me.
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Post by wingtol on Jun 24, 2018 15:49:40 GMT -6
Our best OL last year, against my protest, was moved to FB and had 700+ yards. Was also our best LB and played point guard on the hoops team so he's an athlete but played guard for three years till his SR year.
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Post by bignose on Jun 24, 2018 15:55:15 GMT -6
Sounds like good coaching to me.
I don't know about good coaching, except to recognize the potential, don't over-coach him, give him the ball, and let him run! |
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Post by dubber on Jun 24, 2018 16:20:29 GMT -6
We had a left offensive tackle who was a stocky baseball pitcher......our starting QB goes down, and this kid stepped in to play QB the next game
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Post by huddlehut on Jun 24, 2018 18:59:04 GMT -6
Moved a kid from halfback to guard in our wing-t during two-a-days his senior year... He wasn't too happy about the move, but ended up making All-State and we won the State Championship.
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Post by fantom on Jun 24, 2018 19:03:12 GMT -6
Now I have to add the cautionary part: For ever success in moving a lineman into the backfield I've seen at least one that didn't work out. I'd recommend that you have a Plan B in mind. Give your guy every opportunity to do the job but, if he's not getting it done by the second game don't be afraid of pulling the plug. I've seen seasons ruined when staffs were too stubborn to admit that they'd taken a great lineman and making him into a mediocre back.
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Post by byuwolverine on Jun 24, 2018 23:44:17 GMT -6
Kid who played RG on JV is now a starting corner at a Big 10 School. He played Will linebacker his Junior and Senior seasons.
Another example, current player goes to a padded camp and wins the RB MVP award. Played strictly defense and special teams last year as a Junior.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 4:47:45 GMT -6
Sophomore year i went from Center to FB, i was told im still a blocker but now i get a running start, there were only 2 run and 2 pass plays i had to know then my senior year i went from FB back to Guard, because of an injury to the starting G, then wound up playing TE, in the city all star game
It can be done, you have to focus on Not giving him a lot, and work on ball security a ton
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Post by MICoach on Jun 25, 2018 8:09:35 GMT -6
He's a senior, went from 5'11 165 as a junior to 6'2 200. Added 100 pounds to bench and 150 to squat. Ran a 11.9 100 which is pretty fast for our rural area. He's tough and scrappy but not very football smart. When I told him he's probably gonna have to carry the ball he was worried because "there's a lot more to remember as a running back than as an o lineman right coach?" That had me laughing. We run power, buck, and toss. Im a little worried because he's not the most graceful kid and ball security is an issue but the size/speed difference between him and number 2 is huge. You guys have any good position change stories? Hopefully successful ones because RB is one of our only question marks. I know of two guys who were moved from guard to TB, became all-state RB's, then played the position at D.1 colleges. TJ Duckett didn't play RB until his senior year of high school, if I remember correctly he was a Guard and DL or LB. |
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Post by blb on Jun 25, 2018 8:15:46 GMT -6
TJ Duckett didn't play RB until his senior year of high school, if I remember correctly he was a Guard and DL or LB.
TJ Duckett played QB and LBer in HS.
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Post by ebergstedt on Jun 25, 2018 8:49:18 GMT -6
Our problem is just the opposite. We are a very small program, looking at 22 kids out this year, our last year of 11 man before moving to 9 man next year. Our center is 160 lbs but has the best motor and tenacity of any kid we have. So he is our center although he would be a great RB. We just can't replace him on the line with anything comparable talent wise, and we can get closer at RB. He does great unless someone has a really big nose or DT with some quicks. The big fatties he handles easily.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Jun 27, 2018 15:06:15 GMT -6
A few years ago we had a guard that was 6'1", 210 lbs (which was pretty sizeable for the division we were in). He was quick with pretty good top end speed so our HC moved him to fullback and he spent the summer looking great. We were a small school, short on numbers so we never did live tackling, just THUD. The first game we ran sweep to our sideline and a cornerback closed fast and went low on him. It was a good, clean tackle and our fullback was not injured but he let out the loudest, most pussiest (to coin a word) squeal you have ever heard. I mean, it was embarrassing. After that the kid didn't want to ever carry the ball again. To the point that two plays later we ran a fullback dive and he refused the handoff, just swatted the ball away from the quarterback causing a fumble. We eventually had to fire him and move him back to guard.
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