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Post by coachswerve32 on Mar 9, 2018 8:51:32 GMT -6
I would consider myself a student of the game, and do countless hours of research and reading on the game, and other things. Would love to have some suggestions on websites, or books or forums or even any coaching toolboxes you have available that would allow me to gain more knowledge and become the best coach possible.
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Post by gators41 on Mar 9, 2018 9:44:01 GMT -6
Seems like you are doing what you can on your end.
Connect with successful coaches, pick their brain, go to clinics, go to college practices, visit with college staffs if you can do it.
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Post by lmorris on Mar 9, 2018 10:01:24 GMT -6
r4football systems if you can afford it. Talk with DSQA c4 r4 think there is an e4 anything 4 with dub maddox or darrin slacks name on it is freaking fantastic.
I purchased the c4 program 8 years ago or so and still pull out the DVD's from time to time to give myself a refresher.
My last school purchased the r4football systems the last month I was there, I believe it says it can accelerate your learning by 10 years, I had been coaching 12 when I saw it walked out mind blown how much information was on it. I thought I was pretty smart until I went through his game planning stuff.
Coach McKie and Coach Rowe have youtube channels that they put some pretty good stuff on. As well as several coaches on this site, just look down at the bottom of their posts and you will see links to their websites and/or youtube channels
You can sign up for RPOBlitz they send out an email every so often breaking down a new or different RPO, wish they had an archive though.
Went to a clinic here and multiple coaches talked about Malcolm Gladwell as an author to read, also Carol Dweck was another. The books they talked about were thinking differently, think outside the box and what kind of mindset we all need to have. Not necessarily books about football.
I have also found that coaches on this site are extremely helpful, if you have a question ask on here, or shoot them a PM.
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Post by newhope on Mar 9, 2018 10:51:34 GMT -6
You should definitely check out the new system I have posted about on this forum, even though it doesn't have any 4s in it.
Just kidding. Actually, sounds like you're doing quite a bit to learn as much of the game as possible. A lot of what lmorris posted above is great and those are some great suggestions from gator41. There are lots of coaches out there who love to just sit down and talk ball (especially if they don't play you). Reach out to people who are doing things you are interested in and pick their brains. They don't have to be a guru, have a system, or be some well known college coach. There are thousands of coaches doing lots of interesting things.
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Post by CoachMcKie on Mar 9, 2018 11:48:36 GMT -6
r4football systems if you can afford it. Talk with DSQA c4 r4 think there is an e4 anything 4 with dub maddox or darrin slacks name on it is freaking fantastic. I purchased the c4 program 8 years ago or so and still pull out the DVD's from time to time to give myself a refresher. My last school purchased the r4football systems the last month I was there, I believe it says it can accelerate your learning by 10 years, I had been coaching 12 when I saw it walked out mind blown how much information was on it. I thought I was pretty smart until I went through his game planning stuff. Coach McKie and Coach Rowe have youtube channels that they put some pretty good stuff on. As well as several coaches on this site, just look down at the bottom of their posts and you will see links to their websites and/or youtube channels You can sign up for RPOBlitz they send out an email every so often breaking down a new or different RPO, wish they had an archive though. Went to a clinic here and multiple coaches talked about Malcolm Gladwell as an author to read, also Carol Dweck was another. The books they talked about were thinking differently, think outside the box and what kind of mindset we all need to have. Not necessarily books about football. I have also found that coaches on this site are extremely helpful, if you have a question ask on here, or shoot them a PM. Thanks for the shout out coach. I also have a podcast and website. Website can be found in my signature and the podcast is hereAs for books, you are spot on with Malcom Gladwell. Love all of his books. Same as Carol Dweck. Made me change the way I thought about grit and how I need to teach my kids - and myself - how to have the growth mindset. Couple of other books I'd read are Jocko Willink, Daniel Kahneman, and Charles Duhiggl Also, if you aren't on Twitter then I would suggest that. There are a ton of fantastic coaches talking ball all day on Twitter.
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Post by WingTheT on Mar 9, 2018 12:06:28 GMT -6
Also, if you aren't on Twitter then I would suggest that. There are a ton of fantastic coaches talking ball all day on Twitter. I definitely recommend going on Twitter and following a bunch of coaches (including Coach McKie, Joe Daniel, James Light, Brady Grayvold, and many more that I could go on about) as well as taking part of the Twitter Chat they have daily. I feel like I am part of a clinic every night whenever I go scrolling through my Twitter timeline. There's so much info and film cut-ups out there that coaches share or podcasts you can listen to.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 16:34:32 GMT -6
Focus on the type of young men your program puts forth, create quality people whether you win or lose its always the guys who were loved by those around them that are the greatest.
This sport is nothing more than a medium we use to convey life lessons to those younger and less experienced than us
Focus on them, youll be great no matter how many w's or l's you own when your time is done
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Post by **** on Mar 22, 2018 16:50:41 GMT -6
Figure out who knows their chit and stick to them like gum on their shoe.
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Post by coachfares on Mar 22, 2018 16:59:36 GMT -6
Great topic thanks for starting!! All great info so far just to add on I like the "Run the Power" podcast actually got introduced to it at the Reno Glazier this year from coachgower who you should follow on twitter as well. I belong to Glazier Vault and Art of Coaching football websites get a ton of info from them. I have an audible account and listen to a ton of audio books. Also hit up championship productions and get Nike Coach of the Year DVD's or others that interest me. Check out high schools in different states just to see how they are doing it. Im really interested in Oklahoma ball right now and plan on making a trip to see if I can check out some high schools. Also heading to Dallas in July and will reach out to some high schools there as well. Great topic though just subscribed to CoachMckie youtube and podcast channel so thank you for that!!
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 22, 2018 18:14:51 GMT -6
I would consider myself a student of the game, and do countless hours of research and reading on the game, and other things. Would love to have some suggestions on websites, or books or forums or even any coaching toolboxes you have available that would allow me to gain more knowledge and become the best coach possible. Definitely the first step is to define "great" or "best" in your mind. From this post, it sounds like you are focusing on the schematic side, which is important. Keep in mind though, that there are coaches who are x and o wizards (especially on the whiteboard) that may not be considered "great" coaches.
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Post by CS on Mar 22, 2018 18:24:45 GMT -6
Coaching the Mental Game by H.A. Dorfman is the best coaching book I can recommend. It changed the way I speak around the kids. I re-read it every off season
Also, never think you are the sh!t. Every time I start getting in the zone where I feel like I know something someone comes along and knocks me down a peg. Realize that is a good thing and start learning.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 22, 2018 18:36:07 GMT -6
Drills, drills, drills and more drills. Learning the Xs and Os is the easy part; learning how to teach them as effectively and efficiently as possible is what will set you apart. One of our great assistant coaches is our OL/DL guy and I caught him watching 3-4, ILB read drills on HUDL one day on a bus trip. I asked him what he was doing and he said:
"I got bored and have always wondered how to coach a 3-4 Mike linebacker."
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Post by jgordon1 on Mar 22, 2018 19:10:05 GMT -6
you actually have to put the stuff you learned to practice...It only matters what you can teach and can you fix it if were broken...I feel like I am a pretty good coach but i do not know chit about the 3-3 stack...can't coach it..can't teach it..can't fix it...Under front...well thats another story LOL
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Post by aceback76 on Mar 22, 2018 20:05:54 GMT -6
I would consider myself a student of the game, and do countless hours of research and reading on the game, and other things. Would love to have some suggestions on websites, or books or forums or even any coaching toolboxes you have available that would allow me to gain more knowledge and become the best coach possible. Study MOTIVATION, MOTIVATION, and MORE MOTIVATION (any & all sources you can get on the subject!
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Post by bignose on Mar 22, 2018 20:16:10 GMT -6
Associate yourself with good people and successful people. Never stop learning! With the onset of the internet, your learning possibilities are virtually endless!
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Post by 50slantstrong on Mar 22, 2018 20:26:34 GMT -6
The biggest leaps I took in coaching were when
1) I took a job working for a different staff than the one I’d come up with. Not that they were brilliant revolutionaries, it just introduced my brain into a whole new approach to teaching, evaluating kids, and evaluating opponents.
2) I made a concentrated effort to listen to Joe Daniel’s podcast and watch one glazier eclinic per day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 4:22:07 GMT -6
A great strength and conditioning program goes a very long way
Focus on the off the field aspects x's and o's are the smallest part of the equation
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Post by cwaltsmith on Mar 23, 2018 8:19:00 GMT -6
STAY ON THIS SITE... BEST SINGLE asset that i have found.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 23, 2018 10:03:33 GMT -6
STAY ON THIS SITE... BEST SINGLE asset that i have found. I agree whole-heartedly with this. I have learned more from my years on this site than anywhere else, really. Also, find good coaches in your area to network with, coach with and learn from them. Over the years, there have been times where I had had the choice between volunteering in a quality program and being paid in a so-so program. I jumped at the opportunity to volunteer in the power-house programs every time. My duties were generally more limited (straight position coach versus coordinator of some kind) but I learned a lot from veteran staff members in the established program. I would venture so far to say that I took a step back in my development as a coach when I took an OC gig in a program that wasn't run well.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Mar 23, 2018 11:06:20 GMT -6
I'll echo others:
- latch on to a mentor...someone who is experienced and not afraid to grow- you'll grow along with him - focus small- learn as MUCH AS POSSIBLE about a position of your choice...become an "expert" there. Don't spread yourself thin trying to learn all types of chit. Aim small=miss small - If you're looking at "big picture" stuff I would suggest learning how different coaches attack different situations...and then figure out which one makes most sense to you. I.e. attacking the blitz- some OC's thow hot, others protect it and throw at it, others will check to a run like speed option; they ALL work but it's the problem-solving mechanism in your brain and finding people who share that thought process.
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Post by o3t on Mar 23, 2018 12:20:02 GMT -6
The glazier clinic website archive is good. Does anyone know if there has ever been a thread on here just listing books for football coaches with good recommendations? I searched but couldn't come up with anything.
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Post by chi5hi on Mar 23, 2018 12:23:57 GMT -6
Get on the field and put it into practice! You have to walk the walk.
Its one thing to read books and talk to people at clinics, its quite another to see if you can put theory into practice.
You have to try and get it done, mess it up, make mistakes, and then at the end of the season, self evaluate.
You'll put in something that you thought should have worked...but it didn't. WHY?
Lesser coaches will run home to mamma and say things like "We don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's". That's a cop-out. NO ONE has the Jimmy's and Joe's they want...but some still win! How does THAT happen? This is where knowledge meets experience and is the food of self-evaluation.
The more you have read and studied, the easier that self-evaluation will be when you combine with actual experience. Above all...put it on the field. That's what the kids do.
Then read another article, go to another clinic, and try it again.
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Post by jgordon1 on Mar 23, 2018 12:42:57 GMT -6
Get on the field and put it into practice! You have to walk the walk. Its one thing to read books and talk to people at clinics, its quite another to see if you can put theory into practice. You have to try and get it done, mess it up, make mistakes, and then at the end of the season, self evaluate. You'll put in something that you thought should have worked...but it didn't. WHY? Lesser coaches will run home to mamma and say things like "We don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's". That's a cop-out. NO ONE has the Jimmy's and Joe's they want...but some still win! How does THAT happen? This is where knowledge meets experience and is the food of self-evaluation. The more you have read and studied, the easier that self-evaluation will be when you combine with actual experience. Above all...put it on the field. That's what the kids do. Then read another article, go to another clinic, and try it again. yup..I have been running the same crap for 15 years I learned a couple of new things...Guess what, I'm changing the way we teach a bunch of stuff. we will look kinda the same but we will be different..faster, more aggresive
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Post by cwaltsmith on Mar 23, 2018 12:52:47 GMT -6
Get on the field and put it into practice! You have to walk the walk. Its one thing to read books and talk to people at clinics, its quite another to see if you can put theory into practice. You have to try and get it done, mess it up, make mistakes, and then at the end of the season, self evaluate. You'll put in something that you thought should have worked...but it didn't. WHY? Lesser coaches will run home to mamma and say things like "We don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's". That's a cop-out. NO ONE has the Jimmy's and Joe's they want...but some still win! How does THAT happen? This is where knowledge meets experience and is the food of self-evaluation. The more you have read and studied, the easier that self-evaluation will be when you combine with actual experience. Above all...put it on the field. That's what the kids do. Then read another article, go to another clinic, and try it again. AGREE with this alot. And when you progress... you can take that stuff you go from book, clinic, message board, .... and adapt it to your jimmy and joes. Instead of griping about not having the players, learn to maximize your players abilities, and cover up their weaknesses by morphing the techniques and schemes youve learned.
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Post by newt21 on Mar 23, 2018 14:20:36 GMT -6
Here's something big too, write down the stuff that does work because it's easy for things to get lost in translation. I go through old notes every now and then and have an epiphany about stuff that has worked in the past but I just brain farted and forgot about.
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