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Post by mikeyg on Nov 16, 2018 12:42:00 GMT -6
OK has a decent system. Schools are classidied into one of 9 categories. C, B, A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A, 6A-I, 6A-II. Classes are determined by school enrollment. The biggest schools are in class 6A-II and the smallest schools are in class C. Class B and C play 8 man football. And then each class is separated into districts. Each district is a group of schools who all have similar enrollment located close to one aother. Classes are separated into 4 or 8 districts. Now whether your district has 6, 8, or 10 teams in it is up to the OSSAA. Every 2 years the districts are redrawn to accommodate enrollment fluctuations. All that matters at the end of the regular season is district record. The top 4 teams from each district make the playoffs. 1 seeds are district camps and 2 seeds are runner up. 1 and 2 draw first round home games. 1 draws 2 home games if they win first round. 3 and 4 travel to different districts to play the 1 and 2 seeds. Semis and finals are neutral site games located in between the 2 teams. And at the end of the season there will be a total of 9 state champions. One year we were in a district with 10 teams and had to win at least 7 district games to qualify. We went 9-1 overall and 8-1 in district and were district runner up. The next year we had 6 teams in our district and had to win at least 3 district games to qualify. We went 5-5 overall and 3-2 in district and qualified as a 4 seed.
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 18, 2018 21:16:04 GMT -6
As some of old players used to say "pics and/or video or it didn't happen" lol jk
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 2, 2018 18:38:42 GMT -6
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Post by mikeyg on Jul 13, 2018 10:10:22 GMT -6
Right. I see this reflected in IEPs and 504s. When I first started teaching (2000), SpEd services and 504 plans were reserved for truly legit cases...kids had dyslexia or some other documented and diagnosed condition that limited their ability to learn like "normal" kids. A disturbing trend I have noticed, maybe within the last 10 years, is that IEPs and 504s are increasingly being written for socio-psychological reasons, the big one being some vague definition of "anxiety". For a lot of parents, getting their kid an IEP or 504 plan has become some bizarro world badge of honor. These parents probably think they are doing right by their kids when in fact what they are doing is crippling these kids socially and emotionally. I might be wrong, but my wife had told me that when she worked as a special ed aide, that if your kid can get an IEP/504, you can draw a check from the government to assist with raising your child with their "disability". I'm pretty sure that this is true in OK because I know of 1 woman who was relentless in getting all 3 of her kids tested for getting a IEP as soon as they could and this family lives off of welfare. Neither of the parents work due to "disabilities". All of these kids were "fine" in my opinion except maybe just needing some socialization skills. But that could be from where they were fed so much crap and had so much smoke blown up their butts from their mom and dad. Heck one of them was selected as an alternate WR for the 8 man All State game and another one was selected All District safety for 2 years in a row.
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Post by mikeyg on Nov 24, 2017 0:06:04 GMT -6
At one school we didn't have a tunnel and were terrible, direct correlation here anyway...we had a cup and all of the coaches would write in a kid's name for that week's "banner buster" the banner buster is the kid that doesn't play very much, or practice that hard, or really care about the outcome of the game either way, but he will by God blast through that banner and sprint across the field like usain bolt we also had a "holy man".....after the kids run through they all go into the opposite end zone kneel down to pray or whatever...there's always a kid that stays on the knee the longest, he is the holy man one time we told this running back to try and out do the holy man....we told him to get right next to that kid and take a knee and don't get up for anything until he gets up first....it was hilarious...the "holy man" was not about the relent, we actually had to yell for them because the anthem was about to start. maybe you guys are thinking we'd have won more if we focused more on coaching and less on betting on chit and setting up pranks.....it's a fair point, I'll concede it This one wins by a landslide lol
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Post by mikeyg on Nov 14, 2017 15:04:58 GMT -6
I am a firm believer that if I have the lead and I sub out and let my young bucks play you better do the same. I am giving you a chance to let your 2s and 3s get valuable playing time. Don't throw the ball around or be sending the house on my pups. I'm being graceful by letting them play. This is where I really like 8 man football. There is a mercy rule where if one team is up by 45 or more at halftime or any point after that the game is over. Over my career I have received and given them out. Once we were up by 4 touchdowns we would sub out. But if the other coach wanted to be a butt hole then we would release the hounds of war. We would throw the ball and blitz until we 45'd them. If I was in regular 11 man I'd hang as many points as I could, until he subbed out, just to rub it in the coach's face. And then tell him why I did it when I shook his hand "good game". We had a motto we said before games, "Don't let them mistake your kindness for weakness".
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Post by mikeyg on Nov 2, 2017 8:30:42 GMT -6
he said it is a "qb READ PLAY"........does that not mean the qb "rode" the rb and read.......ref didnt know the rules or just made the wrong call....its amazing how many refs do not know all the rules..... Not necessarily, especially when the OLB took the RB and the CB (cornerback) took the QB. OP said the OLB was the read key. Usually the DE is the read key in zone read. That certainly implies to me that the RB was the pitchman and a potential ball carrier instead of someone who was faked to like on zone read. I am taking the word “read” to be “option” here. Sometimes terminology is different for people. I could be wrong. That is why I asked for clarification. What I call a read is the RB was running to the left and aiming for the outside. It was Zone Read. The Defense shwed their cards and the DE lined up inside so the T picked him up and next man outside was the OLB who was up on the line waiting to shoot in. The RB crossed the QB's face and the QB took 2 quick steps left and rode him out until the OLB tackled the RB. QB pulled the ball just before and scampered right for a gain of 6.
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 7, 2017 10:45:03 GMT -6
The coach asked the official who the foul was on and that was when he told the coach. There weren't that many people there so it was easy to hear. I could see it if the LB would have just hit the RB when he was nowhere near the play. But he him during the mesh during the read. I guess it would just come down to a judgement call by the official.
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 7, 2017 0:19:07 GMT -6
I also remember him making us call him Big Daddy. All the other coaches called him that so we in turn had to call him that. He was an older man and had rattlesnake venom in his veins. There was a few who refused to call him Big Daddy at first, but when your running laps in full pads you eventually give in or quit lol.
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 7, 2017 0:14:36 GMT -6
It was on him I know that for sure. Blocking below the waist, #1 of the Defense. 10 yard penalty. 1st down. The RB wasn't helpless and was a part of the play so it wasn't like a random cheap shot or anything. I was sitting up in the stands pretty shocked at the call.
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 6, 2017 21:22:40 GMT -6
So I was watching a local high school game last night. Never in my life have I seen or heard of this. The OLB in question is a smaller guy, 5'11ish about 140 in full pads soaking wet. Well the way he tackles is like a lot of smaller guys, he hits guys in the thighs right above the knee. Now to the call... Simple QB Read play, they have ran it all night. They run the play, OLB shoots in on a blitz, he is the read key and has been burned several time. Coach tells him previously to hit the RB and let the CB get the QB. The QB reads the LB, LB drills the RB in the thighs and takes him down, flag goes flying. QB gets tackled abd the play is over shortly after. Call on the field, CUT BLOCK ON THE DEFENSE. Can someone explain this one to me???
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 5, 2017 7:14:55 GMT -6
Well apparently Eastern Oklahoma didn't get that memo in 2007. Lol. Then again my coach was very old school. His favorite move was hitting you with his hip and knocking you over or sweeping one of your legs out from under you if your stance was wrong.
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Post by mikeyg on Sept 14, 2017 21:35:05 GMT -6
Where was all this 10 years ago? I can distinctly remember my DL coach grabbing me by the collar and slapping me upside the helmet for not reading the Guard. But back then kids weren't crybabies and mommy and daddy knew that kids need a good butt chewing from time to time.
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Post by mikeyg on Aug 26, 2017 15:26:38 GMT -6
We ran out to this in my high school days. We had a big hill we had to run down to get to the game field. We were a all Indian school and we would spread out around the top of the hill and while the intro is playing we would hoop and holler and let out war cries. And then when the song would say "are you ready" we would hop the small railing and then storm the field and stop at the 50 yard line and taunt the team across the field.
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Post by mikeyg on Feb 23, 2017 21:57:35 GMT -6
We got a film like that a few years ago. The really sad part was it was a DVD. So they deliberately made sure to put in on there. When we showed up to the game the coach was laughing his butt off at the weird looks we was giving him. He was a real good guy and did it just for the laughs. We became good friends afterwards. Lol
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Post by mikeyg on Feb 21, 2017 10:16:54 GMT -6
We had a teacher film one of our games but she was so baked she didn't realize she was filming in reverse. She was turning the camera off during the plays and recording everything else. So we sit down the next day to watch film and we heard a lot of extra curriculars that she was involved in. We heard it all. From her buying weed from a student to setting up a "special" meeting with a student and his girlfriend, in the teachers defense the student was 19 and his girlfriend was 18 so it would have been legal lol. Needless to say the super sent her home early for the year the following Monday.
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Post by mikeyg on Dec 29, 2016 0:26:34 GMT -6
Hail Mary for us was anything over 30 yards. Lol. Sadly our guys who had the smarts to be QB can only accurately throw up to 35 yards. Our C on the other hand could throw a 60 yard bomb accurately about 10 times before he started to get sore. Our Kicker was the same way. All the guys' with good legs were lineman. Our best Kicker was a 350+, couldn't move his feet if they were on fire, 4th string never gonna see a snap, 3rd string JV kind of kid. Our punter was also our G. We just slid our C over in his place and our DE was our deep snapper.
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Post by mikeyg on Dec 14, 2016 12:57:54 GMT -6
I just love hearing guys talk about having stadiums and getting to improve their fields. Where I was we had free fertilizer from the deer. One night I sat out there with my rifle and was popping all the armadillos that were digging up our irrigation system, worms. Our announcer's booth turned into a make shift deer/armadillo stand that night lol
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Post by mikeyg on Dec 14, 2016 11:38:28 GMT -6
Played a split back veer team who had a RB tell us where the ball was going every time. If his feet were straight across he was the pitch man. If his outside foot was slightly staggered he was the dive man.
We always watch G's, T's, RB's, and then QB.
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Post by mikeyg on Nov 6, 2016 3:48:18 GMT -6
These are names that we have named our defense over the years. It changes based on the the kids' mentality.
1) Got Em D 2) War Dawg D 3) The Swarm 4) Mud Sharks 5) Dirty D
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Post by mikeyg on Nov 4, 2016 15:57:08 GMT -6
I swear to God I'll pistol whip the next guy who says "shenanigans". Hahahahaha. Im dying laughing. Lol
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Post by mikeyg on Nov 4, 2016 15:50:21 GMT -6
Defensive Ends were told to play 3 feet outside of the End and not let anything outside. Teams just ran up the middle off guard and wouldnt even block the DE because he was so far out they knew he couldn't make a play. Almost all of our tackles were made by our CBs and S. Typical play we couldn't stop would be out of I formation. I'd call it 34 G Power.
C and PSG double NG. PST chips the DE and moves down to PSLB. BSG pulls and kicks either the DE or CB, first threat to show on the outside of the hole. BST blocks BSLB. FB leads up the 4 hole usually sealing off the PSLB.
Our defense could not stop this play in the style of defense they were told to play in. Keep in mind I didn't want to change the defense. Just the technique they played.
I tried to talk to him once about it by dropping hints but he was set in his ways.
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Post by mikeyg on Nov 2, 2016 15:36:15 GMT -6
I swear to God I'll pistol whip the next guy who says "shenanigans".
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Post by mikeyg on Nov 2, 2016 15:29:19 GMT -6
Hard to do that at all. We played 8 man and I got the boot this season but for the past 3 years I had wanted to approach our HC and tell him he played his D way too soft. He would have our Corners and Safety play 10-15 yards deep and left us wide open for 6-8 yard gains on run plays. Granted we hardly ever gave up big pass plays but we also regularly gave up 200+ yards rushing. He also would chew out oir linebackers routinely for not getting off their blocks and making a play. But that is hard to do when you have a Tackle blocking down on you and your fighting off both him and the backside pulling Guard and the lead blocking FB. Our Safety led the team in tackles 2 years in a row but that was because he would run down the RB on a toss sweep or power to the outside. I've dealt with this conundrum for a while. Never easy.
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 21, 2016 17:23:51 GMT -6
Definitely option number 2. Only give out a certain number of tickets per player and make it an incentive to sell tickets. Whoever sells the most tickets gets a prize. Controlling the tickets and having them the them in a day or 2 early allows you to get a head count for the dinner.
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 21, 2016 17:08:32 GMT -6
Another fun one we did was called Role Reversal. It's exactly as it sounds. Lineman turn into skill positions and skill guys turn into lineman. The only position set in stone is that the QB has to be Center. We had one practice where the Center and QB flipped and the QB went down for a few seconds after a nut tap from the C. QB got up and started cussing out the C and his reply was hilarious, "hurts anit (not sure if I spelled that right)". Our C didn't like to wear a cup because it made him chaff really bad but he said that our QB would put his hands up under him too fast and would occasionally hit him in the nuts so he had to wear a cup. When our HC asked why he never told us he did tell one of us but he was a young coach who was in his first year and his answer was to "stop being such a p^$$y". Needless to say our HC had a lengthy talk with the young buck after practice.
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 20, 2016 18:44:35 GMT -6
We used to do rabbit hunts. Get your 4 fastest most agile guys on one side of the field and a mix of 11 players from lineman to DBs on the other. Give one of your rabbits the ball. Their job is to not get touched with the ball. The are allowed to run the field (goal line to goal line) and can lateral all they want but are only allowed 2 forward passes. If the group can catch a rabbit within 1 minute they are either exempt from conditioning or don't have to run as much. For each rabbit score it lessens their running.
Another favorite of mine is to have your team spread out on the field and lay down on their backs. Have them close their eyes and begin to deliver an Oscar worthy speech. Meanwhile have someone waiting to turn on the sprinklers and once your speech is finished wait a few seconds and turn am on. It's funny watching some of them scramble to get out of the water. Others just lay there and enjoy a free semi shower. Lol
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Post by mikeyg on Sept 15, 2016 22:55:16 GMT -6
In 8 man we have a 45 point mercy rule and there are plenty of coaches out there who live to 45 an opponent but thats not who we were. My first 3 years we were routinely 45'd and our record over 3 years was 6-23 with 12 losses coming from being 45'd. So a few years ago we had a huge shift in our program and we became the team who could dish out the 45s. The last 2 years we went 9-2 and 6-4 and we only 45'd 5 teams, 2 of which 45'd us, after the game all the coaches said no ill feelings felt and all understood why it happened. But we didn't look to 45 anybody at all because we had been on the receiving end of that stick numerous times and we knew what it felt like. When we did 45 anybody it was because of 1 of 2 reasons. 1) Freshman and 3rd string outplayed their team. Whenever we get up by 20 or more we sub almost everybody and leave 1 or 2 starters until we get a 30 point lead then we pull all starters. Im not gonna tell my frosh or 3rd string RB to not score or to not get that pick 6. 2) Once we pull starters and have in subs we expect the other team's coach to understand that we could pull the trigger but we are allowing both teams to sub and play guys who dont get to play much in regular varsity games (we all have a little Tommy on the team who's grandma and cousin Fred show up to every game but never gets to play). But don't keep your 1's in and go out there and start slingin the ball around like the freakin Oregon Ducks on our frosh. Or stacking 8 in the box and sending a full house blitz on our 3rd string. You do that crap and we will send in the hounds of war and run up the score as fast and as soon as possible. Our 1s hate to see the "wittle guys" get picked on and as soon as they hear that bark, yes I said bark (we literally barked), its like some psycho switch flips in their brains and they went out for blood. Nothing dirty or illegal or tricky. Just hard nosed old fashioned football and they loved it. I just wish we could have harnessed that feral primal effort and that they could've used it the entire game instead of just when subs get picked on. The subs understand and we apologize and we make sure to try to get them in sooner next time or make sure they get more time in jv game. Now I say all that to say this, you can be a tough coach/team and get revenge without being a douche.
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Post by mikeyg on Sept 15, 2016 21:46:25 GMT -6
I graduated in 08 but back in high school our showers and bathroom stalls were all in the same room so nobody ever really wanted to spend more than 3 minutes in there tops. But we only had 4 rules when it came to showers. 1) No recording devices. 2) You must wear short sandals. 3) Provide your own soap. 4) You must wear shower shorts.
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Post by mikeyg on Aug 25, 2016 3:12:25 GMT -6
I'm a young pup and graduated in 2008 but we did this drill weekly at my high school. We were a Wing T team and used this drill to "learn" how to block a defender while pulling or running down field. We bought into the idea and loved the drill. That was just a normal Tuesday for us. The worst thing I remember us doing was punish one of the running backs. The day before he wouldn't take practice seriously and caused us to have to run extra and even then he wouldn't run during sprints so we ran extra snakes and laps. One of the coaches added it all up at the end of the day and we ran a grand total of 6 miles in full pads and 3 miles in pants and helmets. This was all because 1 guy didn't want to run and take practice serious. The next day the HC told us that even if we were in the middle of a drill or play if he whistled 3 times and called out our name we were to go head hunting. If was bad. But ole Patrick learned to take practice serious after that day. He was so sore we literally had to carray him back to the field house because he couldn't walk.
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