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Post by StraightFlexin on Sept 14, 2017 8:23:56 GMT -6
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Post by RuningOutOfOptions on Sept 14, 2017 8:30:36 GMT -6
I know people here see me as a snowflake, but it's sounds little excessive with a 2 game suspension. Not sure what actually happened but if the article is accurate with what happened (yeah I know yell to get the players attention could be putting it milder) then it seems too much in my opinion.
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Post by fantom on Sept 14, 2017 8:32:04 GMT -6
Wait minute, he got suspended for breaking up a fight?
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Post by blb on Sept 14, 2017 9:03:47 GMT -6
Wait minute, he got suspended for breaking up a fight?
Not exactly.
According to a witness quoted in an earlier article:
He first grabbed the kid after a shoving match between players and screamed at him "for 10 seconds." The kid "broke free" whereupon the coach grabbed him again, "dragged him back," and resumed screaming at him.
The coach later apologized to the young man and told him to go back in when he was ready.
He also posted a Facebook message over the weekend admitting he was in the wrong and apologizing for his actions.
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Post by StraightFlexin on Sept 14, 2017 9:20:25 GMT -6
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Post by rsmith627 on Sept 14, 2017 12:32:54 GMT -6
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Post by coachklee on Sept 14, 2017 20:40:05 GMT -6
I was on the opposing sideline & was freaking out as a DC who had his guys pitching a shutout in a 28-0 game that had suddenly turned into a 28-14 game with about a quarter to go. I & the rest of the coaching staff had no idea anything happened until our Assistant Principal & Superintendent who both monitor the opponent's crowd from our track between the opponent's sideline & their stands told us on Monday before school. They said the player came over & threw his helmet once he got to the sideline & the coach reacted immediately grabbing by the shoulder pads before yelling at him about his behavior / attitude. They both said it didn't look good & was probably just over the line of acceptable, but probably shouldn't have been a 2 game suspension which was apparently the final outcome? Our HC asked what our Sup would he have done & he said if that was a 1st offense probably a written reprimand to put in a file in case any other similar behavior ever followed, but that would probably have been the end of it. |
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Post by hunhdisciple on Sept 14, 2017 21:20:22 GMT -6
That was literally the first thing I was told when I started. Don't grab a kid, period.
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Post by mikeyg on Sept 14, 2017 21:35:05 GMT -6
Where was all this 10 years ago? I can distinctly remember my DL coach grabbing me by the collar and slapping me upside the helmet for not reading the Guard. But back then kids weren't crybabies and mommy and daddy knew that kids need a good butt chewing from time to time.
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Post by dwest1550 on Oct 2, 2017 21:17:05 GMT -6
Several of us guys were talking about this bc I'm always on football scoop. All of us played back in the 70s when you never questioned the coach & nobody quit. Anyway my buddy was a running back & he said in practice he was not running the ball through the 2 hole as the coach wanted. He said the coach grabbed him by face mask and seat of his pants & pulled him through the 2 hole several times. The point of this is that he said he knew where the 2 hole was from then on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 21:49:18 GMT -6
Where was all this 10 years ago? I can distinctly remember my DL coach grabbing me by the collar and slapping me upside the helmet for not reading the Guard. But back then kids weren't crybabies and mommy and daddy knew that kids need a good butt chewing from time to time. I don't know of any lineman or LB alive who didn't have that experience at some point. |
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Post by bulldogsdc on Oct 3, 2017 5:41:51 GMT -6
10 years ago was 2007. You could not put your hands on kids in 2007.
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Post by larrymoe on Oct 4, 2017 12:50:28 GMT -6
10 years ago was 2007. You could not put your hands on kids in 2007. I would argue it would depend on where you were, but that is counterproductive. |
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Post by coachcb on Oct 4, 2017 13:18:58 GMT -6
10 years ago was 2007. You could not put your hands on kids in 2007. I agree.. I had a kid tell me to go f- myself on the sidelines of a lopsided loss in 2006, I got angry and grabbed him by the jersey and said "EXCUSE ME?!?!". I got into deep chit with the administration over that one. |
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Post by bulldogsdc on Oct 5, 2017 7:01:23 GMT -6
I was in rural Georgia in 2007....Could not put hands on kids...
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 5, 2017 7:14:55 GMT -6
Well apparently Eastern Oklahoma didn't get that memo in 2007. Lol. Then again my coach was very old school. His favorite move was hitting you with his hip and knocking you over or sweeping one of your legs out from under you if your stance was wrong.
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Post by Defcord on Oct 5, 2017 12:26:02 GMT -6
When I was in middle school, mid 90s, we had a coach with one arm. The missing arm had a hook device. If linemen were to high their stance he would attempt, sometimes auccessfully, to pinch their sack with this thing.
Never got me thank goodness. My brother was a BA and two years ahead of me and told the dude “you touch me or my brother my dad will be in prison after he’s done with you.”
Other kids weren’t so lucky. Looking back it’s pretty disturbing the community knew about this and laughed about it.
I haven’t seen any other coach than that touch a player.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 5, 2017 13:01:35 GMT -6
You've got to be careful of what you do in practice anymore either...
I just got an email from the administration about an "incident" at practice yesterday. I was going through WR blocking drills with the kids and was emphasizing getting hands inside, grabbing the breast plate and jacking the defender up.
Apparently, one of the kids had a "red mark" on their neck from when I demonstrated the technique and his mom is b-tching.
I'm going to start coaching cross country, I swear to God.
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Post by Chris Clement on Oct 5, 2017 20:40:52 GMT -6
When I was in middle school, mid 90s, we had a coach with one arm. The missing arm had a hook device. If linemen were to high their stance he would attempt, sometimes auccessfully, to pinch their sack with this thing. Never got me thank goodness. My brother was a BA and two years ahead of me and told the dude “you touch me or my brother my dad will be in prison after he’s done with you.” Other kids weren’t so lucky. Looking back it’s pretty disturbing the community knew about this and laughed about it. I haven’t seen any other coach than that touch a player. Wtf?? |
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Post by fantom on Oct 5, 2017 20:47:27 GMT -6
When I was in middle school, mid 90s, we had a coach with one arm. The missing arm had a hook device. If linemen were to high their stance he would attempt, sometimes auccessfully, to pinch their sack with this thing. Never got me thank goodness. My brother was a BA and two years ahead of me and told the dude “you touch me or my brother my dad will be in prison after he’s done with you.” Other kids weren’t so lucky. Looking back it’s pretty disturbing the community knew about this and laughed about it. I haven’t seen any other coach than that touch a player. That is one of the most phuked up things that I've ever heard. |
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Post by Defcord on Oct 6, 2017 4:00:37 GMT -6
Yeah, I wish I could tell you it wasn’t true. If that happened to my son someone would lose their job. Either that sicko or me for ripping his other arm off.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 6, 2017 5:24:02 GMT -6
You've got to be careful of what you do in practice anymore either... I just got an email from the administration about an "incident" at practice yesterday. I was going through WR blocking drills with the kids and was emphasizing getting hands inside, grabbing the breast plate and jacking the defender up. Apparently, one of the kids had a "red mark" on their neck from when I demonstrated the technique and his mom is b-tching. I'm going to start coaching cross country, I swear to God. I would be in so much trouble
From demonstrating that technique to showing linemen why having a good balanced stance is important(so you don't get knocked down) to showing DL how to defeat OL who have their heads down.
The only way to learn is from experience, and in anything that involves contact it takes contact to teach.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 6, 2017 9:05:25 GMT -6
You've got to be careful of what you do in practice anymore either... I just got an email from the administration about an "incident" at practice yesterday. I was going through WR blocking drills with the kids and was emphasizing getting hands inside, grabbing the breast plate and jacking the defender up. Apparently, one of the kids had a "red mark" on their neck from when I demonstrated the technique and his mom is b-tching. I'm going to start coaching cross country, I swear to God. I would be in so much trouble
From demonstrating that technique to showing linemen why having a good balanced stance is important(so you don't get knocked down) to showing DL how to defeat OL who have their heads down.
The only way to learn is from experience, and in anything that involves contact it takes contact to teach.
Yeah, I'm not happy about it right now. I didn't manhandle the kid; I just demonstrated the technique. Struck the V, extended and pushed the breast plate up. I told the AD that he could talk to the rest of the staff and kids if he needed to but I that I did nothing wrong or out of the ordinary. He must have already done so because he responded and said "not to worry about it, he'd handle mom." He did suggest that I talk to the kid about it but I'm not going to bother as that just opens up the door for more bullchit. I'm not going to justify anything to the kid or his mother; it's football. |
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 6, 2017 12:53:13 GMT -6
I wouldn't say a word to him about it, doing so justifies his/his mothers complaint. Maybe make an open statement to the team or linemen in the near future about how being hands on is the only way to learn, but nothing directly to the player
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Post by mikeyg on Oct 7, 2017 0:19:07 GMT -6
I also remember him making us call him Big Daddy. All the other coaches called him that so we in turn had to call him that. He was an older man and had rattlesnake venom in his veins. There was a few who refused to call him Big Daddy at first, but when your running laps in full pads you eventually give in or quit lol.
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