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Post by Down 'n Out on Nov 20, 2019 6:18:39 GMT -6
Were nearing the end of the season now and im just wondering what garbage offenses have you seen this season?
For us the worst imo was a team grab bag offense that ran DTDW Superpower and Counter, Power-I Blast and FB Dive, 'Gun 2x2 SE Post / SL Out. That was their offense
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Post by Down 'n Out on Nov 14, 2019 13:17:15 GMT -6
Agree with this 100%. This is an interesting topic everybody has had that kid who just will not hit and does not like contact. I have seen that same kid endure years of intense football workouts and voluntarily participate in a sport whose key ingredient he obviously does not like. Outside football circles he would be considered to be tough for having endured it. Inside football circles he is soft. I personally have never be able to "fix" one of these kids, but an interesting thing happened a year ago. Coaching at a good program with a strong tradition of being physical. We are short on talent at ILB and move a talented overhang there who is a backup. He is smallish for our league but talented enough to play. I can see he does not enjoy contact (footspeed at contact slows down, takes the hit rather than delivers it). But because of his peers and our culture he makes himself do it. Every single tackle he makes is ugly and looks painful, but he does his job every time. I mention this because the only reason (i can think of) that would make him do that is the expectation of his peers and the staff. Hes a damn tough kid, doing something over and over that he does not want to do. Thats tough. Hes not physical though, theyre different things. Confidence, resiliency and determination can be developed, and those make up toughness. Weightroom work, pushup contests, distance running, 1 on 1 sumo type drills(we do "king of the ring" where the winner stays in against different opponents until he is defeated - he will eventually get beat by a kid that shouldnt beat him because hes exhausted and the other kid is fresh, they both learn something about effort), etc. All of those things help kids develop confidence. Set goals, achieve them, set new goals, achieve them, etc. Look back after a couple of months and kids are way ahead of what they only imagined they could do before, that builds their confidence and they come to believe that they can do anything. Tackle that stud RB , beat that giant OT, block that monster DT, it can all be done if youre confident, determined to succeed and resilient.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Nov 14, 2019 5:32:03 GMT -6
Side discussion, how important is it to "practice in the elements" vs going inside to the gym and getting higher quality reps? Are you guys a day or two of each, or all or nothing approach?
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Post by Down 'n Out on Nov 7, 2019 6:53:58 GMT -6
Andrews definitely gets the short end of the stick in this situation, although was what Oceanside did really that big of a deal? I mean I dont see how it was cheating, although obviously it broke the rules.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Nov 2, 2019 15:24:30 GMT -6
Just saw that Northwood OH went 10-0 and won't make the playoffs, can anyone shed some light on the situation?
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 12, 2019 9:20:14 GMT -6
how about the kid who cant line up straight in our high school level offense but comes to school monday morning and says what we should be running because he saw it on saturday or sunday. Ive got WRs who cant figure out that on Tight Right they are on the left (opposite the TE) and in Tight Right OVER they are "over with the Tight End' but want to run blah blah blah (insert Jon Gruden West Coast Play)
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 11, 2019 4:49:30 GMT -6
Never really thought about it but that one makes sense.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 5, 2019 8:56:09 GMT -6
A lot of the talent leaves. They go to places like Penn State, or in the case of the MLB LSU. Those places arent threats either, not year in year out. VT is behind Clemson right now but they're in the thick of things with the rest of the ACC.
Im not saying VT doesnt get 4/5* guys, just that more leave Virginia than stay. IF they would stay then VT would be on that national stage and be hot on Clemson's heels.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 5, 2019 4:52:14 GMT -6
The SEC lures a lot of top talent away from VA and I cant say I blame the kids for going but its not like VT isn't sending players to the NFL regularly. Top Middle Linebacker in the country is from VA and is going to LSU, almost all of the top RBs leave too as if VT, or UVA or that matter haven't produced NFL RBs.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 5, 2019 4:03:06 GMT -6
Maybe one day UVA and VT can get the top recruits to stay home. The talent is there to run with the top programs
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 5, 2019 3:52:54 GMT -6
Parents, I can deal with kids.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Aug 15, 2019 9:32:05 GMT -6
Your players are only guaranteed 40 games in their high school careers(youre currently setting at 39), I wouldn't sacrifice the chance to step on that field 1 extra time for anything, even if I knew the outcome.
back to back byes is a LONG time, practice quality wont be very good and that in and of itself will probably hurt you guys vs their next opponent.
Play the game, sell it to them as a chance to play 1 more game.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 25, 2019 8:26:05 GMT -6
I thought my favorite part of being a coach would be designing the offense(no kidding, I still love drawing stuff up). It's actually the kids.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 25, 2019 8:19:33 GMT -6
I first knew I wanted to coach because of a coach I had in JV. He unfortunately just passed away this past week, but he was the first school official who ever made me feel good about myself, made me feel like I was good enough and was capable. I wanted to give that to other kids. When I first really fell in love with the game was in high school I remember watching a film from a decade before of a team my school played in the state semis running the Single Wing Bucksweep. It was completely different than what we did and opened up this whole new world to me schematically.
I really decided that I wanted to do this (and that coaching was worth it) when I had kids from a very average team come up to me a few years later really excited and wanting to talk and reminisce about a very average season. What I did was important to them.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 13, 2019 7:53:50 GMT -6
I was coaching Middle school a couple of years ago and the local college football team (DII school) came to a game. Every week they did a team building event(go to the movies, play paintball, whatever) and that week they chose to come watch one of our players play (he was their HCs son and they all knew him). Were a smaller school in a rural area, their football team was about 85% urban kids so a very different vibe than what our kids are used to. They were loud and energetic the entire game, which really changed the atmosphere for us. We sold it to our kids as "a college team is here to watch you, so lets put on a show", and for them it was a fun, ridiculous night out.
Not something that can be done every game but maybe 1 game a season.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 4, 2018 8:29:09 GMT -6
Never undercut another school program, but if its not school related crush it. I do try to steer certain kids toward certain sports. Short, thick kid away from basketball and toward wrestling, etc
I like to feel like in the past 3 years we have effectively killed "fall ball", which I said was one of my top goals when we started. The fall ball team is made up of the spring baseball team, minus their top 3-4 players who play football for us now.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 4, 2018 5:49:18 GMT -6
76s actions were too far and WAY out of line. If he wants to light the kid up so be it, its football but the rest is a fight. I suspend 76 for the rest of the season and he has to earn his way back on next year. NO WAY he needs to be brought up on assault charges imo.
I'm willing to bet this wasn't some random attack or that the other kid was targeted for no reason. Probably running his mouth on social media or in game.
I hope a coach didn't encourage that.
At the small rural school I went to I was in and saw worse fights in 9th grade.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 7, 2018 11:00:34 GMT -6
The handshake and "thank you coach" after practice is a great feeling.
I got it the day after I moved a linemen from starting DT to starting RG. Hes a defensive guy and absolutely loves playing DL(all of them do). He was bummed the day before but I'm sure he went home and told his dad the reasons I gave him for making the move and obviously his dad told him I was doing the right thing.
Also got it from a kid in his 1st year playing. Hes struggled and wont be anything more than a 2nd team guy this year but he appreciated the effort I'm putting in to him.
Its good to see young men being raised right and with the ability to take disappointment and make the most out of the situation.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jul 19, 2018 7:43:04 GMT -6
We have a really great setup similar to Boston college, the hockey and football are back to back so you double up all the facilities, concessions, the football stands are built into the rink's structure, so you could make that work and save a lot of building hassle. You could put baseball and softball with foul lines abutted, and then out the main structure along the two collinear foul lines that would align with the middle of the football field. I wonder if the football field can be offset within the track so that the far set of stands fits between the track and the field? That would cover almost all your sports. Could you better explain the orientation of the concessions within the facility? I assume there are hallways that connect the football side to the hockey side and the concessions are there?
The field can be offset that way, a local school has a nice set of concrete stands(the original portion is over 80 years old) on the home side and the visitors use a pretty nice but small set of aluminum stands that are inside the track. They've held regional track meets for years with no issues. Viewing track events isint great due to not being able to see the participants when theyre behind the visitor stands but it works pretty well for a stadium with limited space
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jun 4, 2018 13:28:12 GMT -6
I would say put a small set of stands just for them. Attendance at track meets isint great anyway. Doesn't really make sense to have 50 track fans in a facility that hosts several thousand (minimum). Put it around a practice field and all of the events can be held in one location. I know for us Shot and discus are held on a practice field (not on our turf) while the track events are at the main stadium, makes it hard for fans to keep up with everything and the kids are all over the place going from one event to the next.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jun 4, 2018 9:28:39 GMT -6
With the track fans are just spectators, no involvement and little impact on the game. Some people want it that way but I hate it.
A local high school just built a new stadium and I swear the first row of stands is 30 yards from the sideline. 15 yds of sideline, track, 5yds of concrete walkway, then the stands are 5' off the ground. Its a horrible viewing experience and its ahrd to create a fun environment.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jun 3, 2018 17:19:56 GMT -6
It seems like new facilities are too spread out. I know building codes restrict a lot of things but IMO the distance keeps facilities from having character,they all seem generic.
bigmoot mentioned storage, our "home" locker room is sandwiched between the visitor locker room and the bathrooms, the main parking lot is in front and a 10' hill is behind. There's almost no where to expand. We also don't have a coaches office (it's in the gym hallway 100 yards from our field house so we dress in the laundry room. We've built a room out of the visitors room for more storage as we'd not have enough.
Personally I always liked field houses behind a end zone vs behind the bleachers.
And put the **** track around a practice field rather than the main field
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Post by Down 'n Out on May 1, 2018 6:51:17 GMT -6
Depending on team size and those players role 2nd team Offense or 2nd team Defense. Ive always been at small schools and those guys are #2 on the depth chart.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 20, 2018 10:56:04 GMT -6
As an OLine coach I have an issue with this, I have found that turning my hat backwards helps to convey the seriousness of and intensity necessary to properly execute the BSB strategy. Can an exception be made while still maintaining the overall structure of your system? Two questions: 1. Are you riding a sled? If so, yes, it is permissible. 2. Are you only wearing it backwards for a short period of time while making a point? If yes, then it is permissible and even advisable. Do NOT wear it backwards for extended periods of times unless accompanied by a catcher's mask Its 2018, who uses a sled??? *rolls eyes* that's like something my grandpa did
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Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 20, 2018 10:54:37 GMT -6
As an OLine coach I have an issue with this, I have found that turning my hat backwards helps to convey the seriousness of and intensity necessary to properly execute the BSB strategy. Can an exception be made while still maintaining the overall structure of your system? This clearly is not the system for you. You should find a knock-off that better caters to your "needs" You are being the vegan who walks into a steak house and demands to see the soy options. Any establishment that doesn't have a tofu option that accommodates my particular needs is just wrong!!! I feel so offended... maybe even unsafe
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Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 14, 2018 8:28:52 GMT -6
2. The dress code strictly forbids visors and flip flops being worn at the same time and only allows for defensive coaches to wear their hats backwards. There is, I regret to say, a dinosaur element to the system and I'm sure it will hurt sales. However, you must have some standards. As an OLine coach I have an issue with this, I have found that turning my hat backwards helps to convey the seriousness of and intensity necessary to properly execute the BSB strategy. Can an exception be made while still maintaining the overall structure of your system?
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Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 8, 2018 10:32:36 GMT -6
Pull and Trap, let the OL be aggressive. Everyone looks to touching the football as the best part of the game, but its not. ITS HITTING PEOPLE!!! Let them do that. We down block and kick out. I preach to my guys that we get to be the aggressors while the defenders are standing there waiting to get hit. We earhole people that don't see it coming and laugh about it. Make a big deal out of great hard physical blocks in film study.
In practice - sumo type drill(we do "King of the Ring" all the linemen stand in a big circle and 2 guys go 1 on 1 with the only rules being no facemasking and no tripping. The winner stays in and faces a new challenger. This continues until we have a new King and he goes until he gets beat. Builds toughness, confidence - lesser players will eventually beat your stud when he gets tired, and the stud learns he can go longer than he ever thought possible.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 2, 2018 8:24:28 GMT -6
Toughness is cultural, and not cultural as in your high school program but as in from the time kids are little (4-5 years old) imo. That's impossible to create. What we can build is enthusiasm and resiliency.
So a kid takes a hard shot over and over but keeps coming back. Is that toughness or resiliency and enthusiasm? Are they the same thing? Is "toughness" a umbrella term for all of these characteristics that were trying to develop.
Ive never understood the drill sergeant approach. I don't see how it can be successful. It works for the military because they have their people 24 hours a day, weve got ours for 2 or 3 max.
Kids cant be build up by "grinding" them, theyre built up be setting and achieving reasonable short term goals. 1 more sprint, 1 more pushup, 1 more round in the hitting drill. 1 today + 1 tomorrow + 1 the next day + 1 the next day and so on until we get to where I wanted them to be and where they never thought they could be. If I ask for 10 today they will falter and fail. Not because theyre not tough but because we as coaches ask too much of them too soon.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 23, 2017 19:55:26 GMT -6
An opposing coach this season was mad when we caught a onside kick... He was upset because our player that caught the kick made contact with his receiving player, didn't give him room to make the catch. I guess he was thinking Punt return rules
To tweak one of our formations to match numbers against how defenses were starting to play us(0 coverage with the Safety on the los to our strong side) I brought up that we should bring our single WR over to the Twins side to block him,our OC was excited because of all the bunch patterns all 3 WRs could run. When I told him the inside SE was ineligible he couldn't believe it, kept asking "are you sure?"
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 8, 2017 20:04:41 GMT -6
To my knowledge we do not have anyone in the LGBTQ community. Our team motto is family; no matter the situation were family and as long as you're helping us get to where we want to be we accept, support, and love you.
Idk how it would work out with us but I think it would be positive. I also think our policy would unofficially don't ask, don't tell, don't care. You said it yourself, it's not relevant to the sport, it's a nonissue to me
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