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Post by Down 'n Out on Nov 22, 2021 7:43:25 GMT -6
Ive coached 6 years(4 at my current place) and all the staffs were solid with a mix of good coaches and young coaches that were dedicated to learning(myself included), with some just hanging around doing odd stuff(equipment, stats, etc). Some of those coaches have left due in part to lack of dedication (not a knock on them, we all know what it takes).
I do think its rare to get a full staff of knowledgeable and dedicated coaches. Some school districts locally require that paid coaches have to be employed by the school district, that makes it basically impossible to put together a completely qualified, knowledgeable, and competent staff.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Nov 10, 2021 5:44:05 GMT -6
I responded with 5k or less. I work outside the school system and coach. If the perfect situation came along I would go to a public system and take a small pay cut but it would have to be the perfect situation (position I want, the right HC, right administration, chance to win at a high level, right school, right teaching position). If I couldn't get most of those things then id continue doing what I'm doing, I'm content currently: my teaching job is pretty laid back, I coach at a great school with great kids, and were competitive.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 27, 2021 12:59:51 GMT -6
We like to have the JV around for the experience of working with the older kids, especially if the older ones are a good group and teach them. Our late season opponents aren't exactly strong so our JV kids get playing time. The big thing is have the JV staff(If they're not wrapped up as position coaches) give those kids attention: talking with them, explaining overall strategy, individual coaching, etc. Stay involved with them. My JV kids kinda follow me around on the sideline asking questions on Friday nights and they're getting encouragement/coaching from me and the other JV coach all week. These last few weeks of the season can give you a leg up heading into next season with those kids.
All of that being said, we've had kids who knew they weren't getting in and really lost interest. I take the blame in part for that, I should have done more of the above. Its hard to come out in November when its cold and rainy to be a rotational guy on the scout team, I try to tell them that those are the times they will remember in 20 years, just being with their teammates and friends.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 13, 2021 3:47:33 GMT -6
I don't think anyone said they were an expert, the OP asked a question and many have responded with how they would handle the situation and their thoughts on the situation.
IMO, don't let the kid talk with the team. Usually im all about open dialogue but if the kids truly having problems you're opening the door to problems, if the kid is faking/looking for attention then you're opening the door to problems. I also think there has to be a stated process that he must go through to return to the team in the future that addresses the uniqueness of this situation vs a more traditional reason for quitting.
Regardless of your thoughts on his reason for quitting take it serious.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 6, 2021 12:14:00 GMT -6
I defer, were mostly 2 way players so I want everyone working our jitters out on defense(assuming the opponent is working their jitters out on their offensive possession) that way our offense hits the ground running.
Now in one of our upcoming game I want the ball first, I think it would be good for us to start with momentum and we are sort of "finding ourselves" offensively.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 5, 2021 4:06:14 GMT -6
That's about the extent of what I know. I can delve into the Buck Lateral series a little more but I don't know a whole lot about it beyond the basics.
If you look at the alignment of the backs they're in the perfect alignment for running Power.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 4, 2021 11:08:47 GMT -6
Balanced line, double tights, Wing and Blocking Back to the same side with he Halfback splitting the Centers right leg and the Tail Back splitting his left.
I believe Power series and Buck lateral series were the base.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 30, 2021 3:49:12 GMT -6
That sucks…it is so surreal having played at the turn of the century Im gonna start using "at the turn of the century" lol I also attended high school at the turn of the century at a school with +/- 325 students and in our lean years we had 25 dedicated players, in our "up" years we would have 40-45 9-12. Crazy how things have changed
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 19, 2021 19:38:07 GMT -6
So our school had a short presentation last week to honor the school's only state title team in football. In the program they had a copy of the roster from that season. The team was the '81 team and obviously some of the acronyms were not really used anymore, some I know and some I don't,thought I might get some help figuringthem out here. SE/WC - Split End / ? TC/HB - ? / Half Back MG/G - Middle Guard(?) / Guard Thanks guys Anyway you can connect with that staff from your current group? Might be a fun and enlightening way to build the history of your program. Get the some old coaches/players to come and speak to your squad about what they did 'back in the day' that helped them win. I KNOW that generation would love to reconnect and feel involved, but you'd also be surprised how your kids will latch on to 'those old heroes'. Even is it is a 2 minute after practice 'rah-rah' talk from an old player/coach; it can create a link. If you do it right, you can create an intergenerational relationship that can make the current team want to be the 1981 team. Now that's an idea. We're blessed with really great kids, they would absolutely enjoy some time with those guys. I'll get with the HC and see what he thinks about it
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 19, 2021 19:36:44 GMT -6
I assume middle guard was a nose tackle or DT. WC/TC? Wide corner/Tight corner? Maybe some old reference for corners/safeties? How old was their coach in 81? Those are some really old school terms. The coach has passed away, sadly there weren't but a dozen or so players from the '81 team there.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 19, 2021 15:40:28 GMT -6
So our school had a short presentation last week to honor the school's only state title team in football. In the program they had a copy of the roster from that season. The team was the '81 team and obviously some of the acronyms were not really used anymore, some I know and some I don't, thought I might get some help figuring them out here.
SE/WC - Split End / ? TC/HB - ? / Half Back MG/G - Middle Guard(?) / Guard
Thanks guys
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Post by Down 'n Out on Aug 26, 2021 13:04:12 GMT -6
its always been a mix of Mondays and Thursdays, sometimes both in one week but this season is all Mondays. Times vary as sometimes the Middle School plays before the JV
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Post by Down 'n Out on Aug 11, 2021 7:27:10 GMT -6
I've really only done "punishment conditioning" on two occasions for 2 different players, both times with the mothers coming to me regarding a serious infraction at school (bullying a female student, being difficult/disrespectful with female teachers) and asking if I could help with the situation. Those kids ran hard: laps and hills, did sit-ups, pushups, you name it.
"punishment conditioning" for non school related stuff, I've had 2 players do multiple extra gassers/laps: one for bullying a teammate and the other for making a very inappropriate joke. Both were done within 10 minutes.
For anything less serious than that we will run a gasser or two to get their attention if they're acting up or not focusing. Its generally not an issues, I give them time to be teenage boys and then I make sure they're being serious at times - give and take. No Iron Fist here
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Post by Down 'n Out on Aug 11, 2021 3:48:59 GMT -6
Our numbers are down. Numbers for starting tier players are fine and kids just wanting to be on the team are fine, but backups/developmental athletes are few and far between. They'd rather play travel baseball or video games, or whatever. Not saying I blame them for wanting to do the things they're better at(we all try to play to our strengths), I just wish they would put in some work as teenagers and see what they can make of themselves.
We spoke with the entire 8th grade the other day trying to drum up some players and responses were "I'm too fat for football", "are you kidding? I'm too small" and "I'm just not athletic". granted those kids were small, chubby, and unathletic but that can all be changed to some extent and they won't even try. I guess that's the most difficult thing for me to accept.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Aug 5, 2021 3:35:44 GMT -6
My all-time favorite R.B. Worthy High School was located in Saltville VA, the Shakers. Indiana takes the cake as the state with the best mascots imo. Seems like they have a lot of small schools, many with unique mascots en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_high_schools_in_Indiana
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jul 21, 2021 5:19:32 GMT -6
Not too weird, more of a gamesmanship thing, but one team in our district had timer clocks in the end zone They go to the wing t and they disappeared…..lol A local school was a Double Tights T school, always had been, and were very good at it. When the school system got the funds to add play clocks to all the facilities their HC refused. Privately he said the refs always gave you a few seconds longer without them and he wanted to shorten the games lol
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jul 14, 2021 5:42:38 GMT -6
QB - Warren Moon (would look good running Waggle!) FB - Jim Brown RB - LaDainian Tomlinson WB - Tiki Barber (maybe the best all around back in NFL history, he can do it all)
WR1 - Randy Moss
TE1 - Jason Witten (always open and a solid blocker)
LT - Randall McDaniel (I know he was a Guard but I think he'd make a fine Quick Tackle) QG - John Hannah C - Bruce Matthews RG - Larry Allen RT - Jonathan Ogden
Kicker - Adam Vinatieri Punter - Shane Lechler
DE - Lawrence Taylor DT - Warren Sapp DT - John Randle DE - Reggie White MLB - Jack Lambert WLB - Ray Lewis
CB - Deion Sanders CB - Darrelle Revis SS - Cam Chancellor FS - Ronnie Lott NB - Ed Reed
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jun 3, 2021 11:13:55 GMT -6
Splitting hairs a little, and either way it was stupid, but was the punishment to eat an entire pizza or to eat pork?
It's the difference between being a staff of idiots and a staff of idiots that violated someone's civil rights
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jun 1, 2021 7:31:21 GMT -6
We do some, we were almost exclusively man last season. I like the competition aspect of it but it's not a drill we hang our hats on.
Same with the line, we did some but focus more on overall scheme and technique.
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Post by Down 'n Out on May 23, 2021 19:25:52 GMT -6
It's not a Coach Huey thread unless we get a zone vs gap argument... I'd say kids enjoy winning more than anything, and if you can teach them to pancake a kid on OZ they're going to enjoy that too. I don't think lack of linemen interest has to do with blocking scheme. This is true. We major in it and do well. Line takes pride in it. Still more fun to pull and kick out, but they like winning. As an added bonus, we've had a few OL over the years finally learn left from right while zone blocking. Winning is obviously best but if I'm on a 5-5 team and my job is A- to out position a guy so the RB can make a good cut Or B - pull and kick out a guy who doesn't see me coming/down block a guy who doesn't me coming Play in play out I know which one I will take. It may not be a deciding factor but imo it does matter. Granted I've never really coached in a zone offense but I know my OTs would much rather down block on Buck Sweep than reach block on Rocket. That very well could have a lot to do with my ability to coach reach/zone blocks
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Post by Down 'n Out on May 19, 2021 5:05:55 GMT -6
Everything already mentioned is spot on, to add to what has already been said the OL coach has to make playing OL fun. Joking, cutting up, play up the physicality and hard work of the position. I try to make OL kind of clickish, its us vs the world. Were over here working and they're over there playing catch. Also a lot of kids play football to catch/throw passes but most play for the physicality of the game, no position has more contact than OL. Play that up.
Take a look at your scheme, how are you blocking? We down block and kick out - hitting guys with angles or with a running go. Thats fun, zone blocking doesnt seem as fun to me.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Apr 26, 2021 6:45:57 GMT -6
I used to coach at a very conservative school where the vast majority of the kids were raised in extremely pro-republican anti-democrat households. The HC/OC was along those lines as well. In game, if he had a play called to go one way, but due to the defenses alignment wanted to flip it the other way he would call "Obama". The premise being that Obama flip-flopped on the issues, so he was flip-flopping the play direction. The more politically minded of the kids got a kick out of that. 5 years ago we ran a Dive/Wedge play from Pistol to our TB and I told the line we were building a wall for the TB to run behind. We allowed the QB to check to that play at any time but couldn't come up with a good audible call, I think it was my suggestion but it ended up being "Trump" because we were building the wall. Kids loved it, mostly because it was silly. One of our coaches did not care for it lol but it stuck. kids took it farther and would make the same audible with "Twenty Sixteen" or "Wall". In my playing days (early 2000s) our drop back pass protection was line all down blocked and the backfield(Split Backs or I) would each take an edge, really hard for the DL to get any penetration. Our line call for that protection was "Brittany Spears". At that time was was our age and the big topic of discussion was whether or not she was a virgin with the general consensus being she was, so there was no penetration. Peter is my favorite for a punt that may hit one of your guys. Most of the kids dont know why the call is peter and they always get a kick out of it when I explain it
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Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 7, 2021 12:04:03 GMT -6
I see these things as a pathway to a desired result, the scoreboard is the result. Not how to get there. That is where I differ. Stats such as these are simply outcomes just like the scoreboard. They are outcomes of individual plays, or a small sample of plays, as opposed to the outcome of the entire collection of plays (scoreboard). But they are still outcomes. Tracking things such as the % of 2nd tackler in strip attempts, % of plays with good pad level, % of plays with high levels of pursuit, % of plays with no procedure penalties etc. seems to be more beneficial as it is monitoring and reporting on the process and things that can be controlled strictly by your team. Imo its easier to sell "Get 6" to your team rather than saying "our percentage of 2nd tackler strip attempts is too low". Not saying as a coach you shouldn't research that, just that how exactly do you sell that to your team in an energetic way? Think the turnover chain frenzy that's sweeping college football. It's easy to focus on, easy to encourage, etc in game. Percentages are for practice
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Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 7, 2021 10:02:31 GMT -6
I see these things as a pathway to a desired result, the scoreboard is the result. Not how to get there.
I think.making players cognizant of not just plays but specific plays and their importance. Statistically, get those 6 and you win most of the time.
Not really any different than a DC bringing up the need to get more turnovers, its just a foundation of the Defense instead of an occasional point of emphasis. Imo it could be a confidence builder also: we've got 2 let's get 3 on this drive
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Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 7, 2021 7:45:27 GMT -6
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Virginia
Feb 15, 2021 4:36:35 GMT -6
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Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 15, 2021 4:36:35 GMT -6
Day 1 we shoveled/pushed snow off the field. Good times. Also had an exposure due to 1) the kid lying about his symptoms and 2) us not being detailed enough in our reporting.
2 won't happen again. 1, who knows with teenage kids. I do know they better understand the seriousness of the precautions now. Better to learn early I guess
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Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 13, 2021 4:53:33 GMT -6
Put your QB off to one corner of the side line and base line and run your passing game one side at a time. Running game place the ball on the side line and face the other sideline. Put the kids in sweats and go out in the parking lot. No contact but you can run your stuff with more space.
We have a turf field and while normally im not a fan its been great this "spring".
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jan 19, 2021 9:13:03 GMT -6
Coaches intentionally take delay of game penalties I dont see a problem with that myself. Like you said, its a question that changes from person to person. A program I played against and coached against will run trick/razzle dazzle plays if you put your 2nd string defense in, they will blitz the hell out of your 2nd string offense too. The last time we played them I was furious and was ready to go tell their HC exactly what I thought of his action (he build like a Ox, he would kill me lol). Im walking up to him and he says "hey great competitive game coach. Man y'all are pretty good. Would you guys come pray with us?". What I thought of as bush league and taking advantage of our 2nd stringers was competing and never quitting to him. Its all about perspective. I coached with a guy (he was our OC) who would yell to the WR on our sideline to "Go block number __" when he called a Go route. It was bush league and manipulative imo but he didn't mean anything dirty by it.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Jan 18, 2021 11:44:49 GMT -6
All unethical imo. Not things I'd teach
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Post by Down 'n Out on Dec 14, 2020 13:02:20 GMT -6
In terms of player development and making the most out of what theyve got id say Wisconsin. They put a ton of OLs and TEs in the NFL along with some DLs and LBs. Theyre never in the top 10 recruiting classes but almost always in the top 25 at the end of the season and often in the top 10.
Their recruiting classes average a ranking of 40 for the past decade, imo they do a lot with those ballplayers
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