|
Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 1, 2023 15:09:49 GMT -6
A local team runs a 5-2 and have it down to a science. They don't change fronts, they do what they do and are very well coached with every adjustment necessary. They stay in either Cover 0 or 1. They have the a ton of talent and speed, much more speed than us so it seems like they're playing with 14 out there.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 28, 2023 14:34:51 GMT -6
Miserable is too strong for what he did but the last HC I worked for had a hard time relating to the kids. He was a former D1 player and All-ACC Academic Team, honestly he expected too much from the kids physically and mentally. Couldn't understand why a 5'10" 220lb OL couldn't run the schemes and make the adjustments that he could at 6'5" and 290lbs, or why the kid couldn't understand/process the concepts. He had other issues but that was the biggest for me. Not a bad guy or coach overall but had a few problems.
I will say the guy had my back several times with parental issues and that was tremendous.
Another coach I worked for had a bad habit of voicing his opinion, no matter who was around. Have to love the guy for it but some things shouldn't be said in front of the players and he never understood that. Caused some major issues within the program that I got caught in the middle of, probably the only time ive been miserable while coaching.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 28, 2023 14:26:20 GMT -6
I've worked for 5 coaches and all were different but 4 of them had these things in common: - ability to relate to the players - ability to teach specific skills and the game, able to simplify the things. Not just to players but coaches - good energy, players and people in general want to be around them - serious about the game and its lessons, football wasn't just something to do, it was a priority - create a family feeling, our teams and staffs were close
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 15, 2023 6:48:31 GMT -6
Po tay to, po tah to, at least in this context. Probably right that it was based on the Packer sweep, which the west coast guys ran for years (and Reid is from that tree). How they run it looks almost verbatim like the "buck sweep" that a lot of spread teams run, especially since they ran it weak. Either way, really fun play. You're right that it is similar to the play that Gun teams run as Buck Sweep. Under center though there are several important differences between Buck Sweep and Packer Sweep. Running it to the weak side was interesting to me, but KC knew what they were doing as the play side DE squeezed hard and gave the FB a easy block on the edge.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 14, 2023 11:29:52 GMT -6
Buck sweep from a pro set Packer Sweep, not Buck Sweep.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Dec 21, 2022 9:46:06 GMT -6
"making the kids come to practice/weights is bullying". Who said that???
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Dec 5, 2022 14:30:59 GMT -6
Never had that type of talent but I've been in the situation where 1 player was better than his backfield counterparts. Were Wing-T and the better back was a FB(kid was not a HB, didn't have those skills, was a down hill runner and not shifty). I adjusted play calling to get him the ball more and added a couple of sets where the HB and WB were on the same side and we ran Belly/Down with an extra blocker.
The same season we had a good QB so we ran some Flood concepts out of those same sets.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Dec 1, 2022 9:58:27 GMT -6
Idk if the youth levels need to be schematically aligned with the varsity because the varsity scheme/staff can and do change but imo youth Offenses need to incorporate all positions: TE, WR, blocking RB, etc. I don't like Full House double tight youth teams, and I dont like Spread youth teams.
Teach the kids various positions and utilize all body types/skill sets.
As wingtol said keep them involved and teaching them to block and tackle are most important
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 26, 2022 4:48:46 GMT -6
Reinforced the belief in KISS. Also, you can teach them but sometimes they just don't listen or absorb that
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 5, 2022 11:25:42 GMT -6
Culture. The same way some teams are almost entirely hard nosed and some are almost entirely soft.
We have a team in our district that is always dirty. Noting terrible as far as late hits in the back or anything like that but lots of pinching and poking, blindside "blocks", etc. A few years ago they were pretty terrible and we were up like 4 scores, 3 of their best/most aggressive players traded around positions and lined up in front of our TE on a xp, absolutely obliterated the kid with no regard for trying to block the kick. Just a cheap shot on the kid for no purpose other that they had beef with him and felt (encouraged by a parent that was on staff for them) that 3 on 1 was a good way to get back at him. Its something taught and passed down from parent to player, coach to player, player to player. They have a new HC that's been there for a few years now (alumni of the school), first thing he did was clean house and bring in better people.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 28, 2022 3:26:35 GMT -6
This goes back 15 or so years, but I had an opportunity to talk to a very successful small-school IL coach at a clinic. By very successful, I mean at that point in his career probably 5 state titles and even more runner up appearances. Anyway, he had an extremely talented group of freshmen in his program at that time. He told me if he didn't win "at least" two state titles in the next three years, the fans were probably going to run him out of town. Fortunately for him, he did win titles when that group was sophomores and then again when they were seniors, lol! You mean to tell me that with all talent coming back as Juniors, the core of the program back, that he couldn't get the job done?! Should have won 3 in a row! Would have won 3 in a row if the team wasn't held back by the staff
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Sept 1, 2022 6:43:19 GMT -6
When Emory Bellard, inventor of the Wishbone offense, moved one HB up to a Wing he called it the "Wing Bone." Others called that and at its inception the Flexbone the "Broken Bone." Perhaps "Broken Wing" is similar - the Dive Back (or HB) moved up into the Slot opposite the Wing. Have seen that formation for a long time. Delaware called it Red-Blue as I recall. Or perhaps it's a Double Slot resembling Run 'n Shoot? Tiger Ellison's (inventor of the R 'n S) running game was Wing-T oriented. I assume its some version of the things you mentioned but I've never heard that term before.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Aug 30, 2022 10:37:36 GMT -6
Does anyone know anything about it or what it is? We have one of our opponents gonna run it, so just curious. When you find out what it is let us know, never heard of it
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Aug 15, 2022 6:40:03 GMT -6
It varies by year: always a hat but sometimes two, T-shirt, gym shorts, a polo every other year or so, every other year a quarter zip jacket, and shoes every year. My sizes can be difficult to get so I don't always get all of that stuff. Were pretty well taken care of
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Aug 8, 2022 7:25:12 GMT -6
I get a couple of pairs of Merrill’s every year. I’m a big person and I need good shoes to make it through the season. Kind of expensive but worth it. Coach whats your shoe width? If Wide how do the Wide Merrells suit you? Im a 4e and its tough to find shoes that fit right
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on May 14, 2022 10:09:59 GMT -6
Have a whiteboard day, just show them over all scheme and how it all fits together. I find there are always a few who just don't get it on the field and this really helps, also the ones who do get it get to refine their roles in the offense by seeing it and helping explain it to team mates who are struggling.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Apr 7, 2022 18:21:20 GMT -6
Time of possession and turnovers. One can be overcome but if a team gets both they win(at least that's how it seems).
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 21, 2022 10:03:34 GMT -6
I got to "Spring Ball" and decided the answer was yes. I've said it before and ill say it again, I had hoped Covid would show us all the ridiculousness of all of this Spring training (weightlifting excluded) but it clearly hasn't. I love the game and have made it a huge part of my life but I'm telling you right now I'm not doing 6am practice and after school practice IN THE SPRING. Going to play devil’s advocate here. I originally thought the same thing when Covid 1st hit BUT then we had our shortened pandemic season in Southern California and we went 0-5 vs other opponents who had more opportunities to have off-season workouts because our school district was so much more restrictive. To me, this validated the importance of our spring and summer. I cant really use that comparison, everyone we saw faced more or less the same restrictions. If 1 team is doing a lot and another isnt then obviously theres gonna be a difference, I just dont see the advantage overall. How many 7 on 7s can a team really do? How much conditioning can a kid do? I think we would lose more kids in the process than gains we would make with those that stay
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Mar 17, 2022 13:28:30 GMT -6
I got to "Spring Ball" and decided the answer was yes.
I've said it before and ill say it again, I had hoped Covid would show us all the ridiculousness of all of this Spring training (weightlifting excluded) but it clearly hasn't. I love the game and have made it a huge part of my life but I'm telling you right now I'm not doing 6am practice and after school practice IN THE SPRING.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 4, 2022 17:24:41 GMT -6
Selling a system is one thing; "hey I've put this together and done the hard work, it works for me and I think it can help you or anyone else. Buy it off me and I'll help you install and trouble shoot". Nothing wrong with that, but " this is the silver bullet facemelter, it will melt your face and everyone else's face and if you don't use it you're stupid and doomed to fail" is a lot different.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Feb 4, 2022 15:33:23 GMT -6
I'm not on Twitter but am on Facebook and it's the same on there on a lot of pages. A coach will post something like "this is my adjustment when running Buck Sweep vs ____ front, how do you adjust?" And there will be 2 dozen responses from people who believe they're right basically saying "that's wrong! _____ is the only way". There's very little conversation. Or as others have started dozens of guys looking for information without putting in any work. For example I wanted a If/Then for the Wing-T, so I made one using my limited knowledge, answers to questions I'd asked more experienced coaches, and just drawing up defensive adjustments to stop whatever play I wanted to run. I've got what I consider a pretty thorough If/Then that I'm constantly refining.
I personally prefer this site much more. I can ask a question and get an answer from a coach who is humble and reasonable without all the bs, generally speaking.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Jan 22, 2022 17:24:57 GMT -6
Interesting perspective. I think it is more because American Football kickers are almost universally football (soccer) players, and in the USA that sport is populated by those atop the socio-economic ladder. Which in the US is not generally blacks. It does bring up an interesting question as to why we don't see more Hispanic kickers. I am a Mexican-American man, who grew up in a primarily Mexican American community, and have known several Hispanic kickers in the NFL. I think there are several reasons- 1- For a long time, football wasn't that big in the Mexican community. Thankfully, it has grown in the past few decades. 2- As the spread of soccer style kickers grew, there was an influx of Hispanic kickers (Zendejas, Villanueva, etc). But as soccer grew in popularity in the US, it grew in popularity within other communities. So now, you'll get as many non-Hispanic soccer players out there as you will Hispanic. 3- Kicker is a very specialized position, and a lot of making it to the higher levels (D1 scholly type) involves getting specialized (see expensive) training. I've been lucky enough to have had a couple of FBS level kickers be on teams I've coached. Both had kicking coaches on the side. This may be cost prohibitive for many in the poorer Hispanic communities. Our kicker is Hispanic and a soccer player, he played in 8th grade, then didn't in 9th. His father puts a lot of pressure on him quit wasting his time and work at the family restaurants more(he already works there on the weekends and a night or two after practice). Idk how common this situation is but it's a factor and kept him from playing for 1 year and if he wasn't so adamant about playing would prevent him from playing at all(his older brothers weren't active in sports). Very similar story to a lot of people in my parents generation where they had to quit school or couldn't play sports because they had to work either a job(coal mines) or work in the garden/on the farm to provide for the family.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Jan 22, 2022 8:28:22 GMT -6
Imo the fact that 35% of total NFL coaches are Black but there is only 1 NFL HC currently is very telling.
Those guys have shown an interest in and went into coaching. That statistic means much more than the 70% of players being Black. Playing and coaching obviously aren't the same thing, almost every one of us on here played and went into coaching but obviously most of our teammates did not.
It should be noted that the NFL has a shortage of several things: high quality Kickers, QBs to run the offenses the teams want, LTs capable of protecting the QBs the way they want,, etc
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Jan 22, 2022 6:46:55 GMT -6
Question, and I really don't know (white guy from a 99% white area, I can count the number of black coaches in our region on 1 hand), in the Black football community how much interest is there in coaching and doing what it takes to coach?
Is the NFL trying to solve a issue that doesn't exist (Black candidates being overlooked/prevented from becoming HCs? If there's little to no interest then there won't be many candidates.
I'm not a fan of the Rooney Rule because it creates token candidates, in a lot of cases the Owner and GM have a guy in mind before the interviews take place most of the time but at least it gets Black candidates in the room and that's a big step.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Jan 10, 2022 13:42:43 GMT -6
I always find they appreciate it if I make fun of the skill guys a little bit...maybe this is getting a little too deep but OL type guys generally aren't the most popular guys in the school so building some cameraderie by making fun of the guys with six pack abs or whatever goes a long way. Making fun of the Backs is essential lol And it kind of re-enforces that cocky "bully" attitude that you want the OL to have. I keep thinking of things so ill post again: - Our OL return kicks in practice, for whatever reason they love it - Make a point of pointing out that the OL is the most physical group in football, were Wing-T so lots of "ear hole" down blocks and kickouts/traps where our linemen have a running go at the guy they're blocking - I always try to cut periods a little short for the OL so they're the first to water - we've never bought shirts specifically for OL but that's a great idea - If you do helmet pride stickers make sure pancake blocks get a sticker, its a little easier for OL to get them than other positions and in film study let the team decide if it was a pancake or if the guy just tripped, that brings more attention to what the OL is doing vs just pointing out that a RB had a long run or a WR made a nice catch(also deserving of praise) - OL Coach has to be involved. I coach our OL, I joke with the guys, I push them, I talk trash to other coaches and groups), they feed off of me (my attitude is their attitude). If I don't want to be there then they don't want to be there - We also are prettyphysical in practice, both to build physicality and because its fun. The Backs always tell their coaches that they want to do what were doing and we always invite them to come hit with us and they almost all decline lol reinforcing that tough attitude
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Jan 9, 2022 16:01:53 GMT -6
Build up the comradery and "blue collar" nature of the group. As a group they need to have a lot of fun.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Jan 4, 2022 12:05:02 GMT -6
I don't think he developed CTE from one hit, but that may have been the straw that broke the camels back. Imo this is definitely a personality disorder that has been exasperated by something (could be a lot of things: CTE, substance issues, etc).
No whatever his problem is its not an excuse for his behavior, it may be a contributing factor but he's still responsible for his actions. Society seems to want to place blame on the condition and not the individual and that's BS.
Idk if he will get another shot or not, an outburst in practice or the locker room is one thing but in the middle of a game is another.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Jan 3, 2022 8:23:34 GMT -6
I think he was always a narcissist, but irrational behavior and irritability are CTE symptoms and he displays both, more so than before the hit. Now, that could simply be a issue with him personally or it could but that what was always there is getting worse with age. We will never know.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Jan 3, 2022 7:50:03 GMT -6
Seeing some people online connecting the hit he took from Burfict several years back to his increasingly erratic behavior, maybe a side effect of CTE.
Dude was always a a head case but he has obviously gotten progressively worse.
|
|
|
Post by Down 'n Out on Nov 22, 2021 8:31:03 GMT -6
A player who is "on" the line of scrimmage has to break the Centers belt line, as #1 and #2 WRs are doing. If the refs wanted to be a stickler for on/off #4 looks pretty on too
|
|