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Post by tog on Feb 5, 2009 9:36:22 GMT -6
first they have to 1. want to go 2. do what it takes to be able to get in 3. be good enough
i do these things 1. make list of all potential candidates, phone numbers, addresses, parent's names, ht, wt, positions etc, possible level of play they can play at--your basic info
2. transcripts and sat/act scores---we scan them into a giant file that shows each of the kids on our list
3. highlight films--we cut em up, get em on the computer--then download em onto googlevideo that we can put links in an email
4. game film-we put selected ones on googlevideo
then every coach that comes by every coach that calls every coach that emails every coach anyone on staff knows every coach i can even find an email on in this state every coach that i can then find an email on out of the blue
we send them all emails with all of this info and links to the video
it has pretty much all the information they need to evaluate talent/level of play/eligible or not
when they get interested in that-they come around, email back, call back
gets the ball rolling a bit
saves the whole tape/dvd copying mailing nightmare
makes it easy on the recruiter's end to
pop open an email--click a link ok that kid can't play here ok
that kid CAN
what are his grades
ok
he is good
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Post by tog on Feb 5, 2009 8:12:25 GMT -6
They offered our HFC the AD job here a few years ago. He is also the head baseball coach. They told him if he took it, he could be an assistant but not a header for any sport. Needless to say he didn't take it. i don't get that so he is the boss over all of athletics but then someone who is under him is now his boss on a specific team? don't like that at all
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Post by tog on Feb 4, 2009 15:02:15 GMT -6
I'm going to agree that football pays the bills, but does that mean that the "football coach" or the "AD" decides what the other sports get? In other words, if the football coach needs something and the volleyball coach needs something, and you can only get 1 thing, does football get it or does volleyball or does it rotate? Because if football always gets it then you may as well not have an AD, may as well just say, "if you want anything ask the football coach." If it truly is impartial then shouldn't need to be a football coach. don't get me wrong there are ad/hfc that do that here if the other programs suffer then those parents have stroke with the school board as well you know? but i would say the vast majority of the ad/hfc in Texas really go out of their way to make sure all the sports are taken care 1. it's best for the kids 2. see above about parents of kids that play other sports 3. most of the other coaches of the other sports also coach football under the ad/hfc-and they need to be kept happy if you want to keep good coaches around
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Post by tog on Feb 4, 2009 11:36:16 GMT -6
In Texas most all of the head football coaches are the ad.
All of our coaches must work for the school district.
The conflict of interest here is having an AD from another sport that is "under" the head football coach during football season if they work football.
Football pays the bills. Football has the most coaches and the most players. There needs to be a chain of command and it needs to stay intact. Therefore the HFC is the one that should be AD.
Now,
there are some places where the AD spot is a seperate position, but those fall into categories
1. giant school district with multiple high schools--then you have campus coordinators that might not always be the hfc--but they won't be on the football staff if they are not
2. places where the ad is the basketball coach and he doesn't do football=======I will NEVER work at a place like that
3. places with a female AD-there are some, and I would work for a few, but not many.
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Post by tog on Feb 3, 2009 22:12:42 GMT -6
by-product of some wishful thinking in rules writing combined with excellent R&D by a coach exploiting the loophole left thereby/quote] bob are you a lawyer herewith and stuff? lol good points though as an ex lawyer type the language is funny to me i wouldn't call it excellent r+d either what it is more than that it is www.shamwow.com/ver8/index.asp
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Post by tog on Feb 3, 2009 11:36:06 GMT -6
well i would love to comment right now
but
i get to go work out about 60 kids in the weightroom
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Post by tog on Feb 2, 2009 22:32:27 GMT -6
Also if they make a new federation then you can just decide to not play them, and states could decide to ban them from championships etc... GOOD BYE A-11 I guess these days when playoffs are such a big deal, you might be right. But it used to be that schools cared more about playing in their own circuit and if there were playoffs they were a minor consideration. i don't know where you are from or care really state playoffs have always been a big deal here in Texas you don't get into em fired you don't win in them fired so i doubt very very seriously that the UIL which already uses the NCAA rules will weaken its rules beyond the already lame fed rules and water them down into a-11 territory
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Post by tog on Feb 2, 2009 20:24:59 GMT -6
www.katytimes.com/articles/2009/02/02/sports/doc49866c6f2bd56826607274.txtParents out of bounds; respect for coaches waning Published: Sunday, February 1, 2009 10:02 PM CST Commentary By Scott Kaiser Times Sports Writer par~ent (par'ent) n. 1. A father or mother; 2. Any organism in relation to its offspring; 3. A source; origin. Definition from the Second College Edition of Webster's New World Dictionary coach (koch) n. 2. (a) A private tutor; (b) one who instructs or trains a performer or a team of performers; (c) One who instructs players in the fundamentals of a competitive sport and directs team strategy. Definition from Webster's Seventh New Collegiate Dictionary You will notice in the above definitions that parent and coach are not related. However, it appears that more of the former think they know more than the latter, and aren't afraid to cross that line. Example No. 1: At last Friday's Cinco Ranch-Mayde Creek girls' basketball game, the Lady Cougars posted an impressive 21-point road victory to remain in a first-place tie with Taylor in the District 17-5A race. This was a huge road win against a Lady Rams' squad that lost at the buzzer to the Lady Mustangs just three nights earlier. It was also Cinco Ranch's 56th win its last 57 district games, one of the most impressive streaks in the history of Texas high school sports. After the game, I had just asked Lady Cougars coach Eric Bartlett about the victory when a gentlemen stopped in front of us and said, I'm embarrassed to be part of this program. I want to re-emphasize that this comment, which left both of us dumbfounded, came after a 21-point road victory by the four-time defending district champions. Here are some of the other gaudy numbers posted by the Cinco Ranch girls' basketball program: ** A record of 152-55 in the last six-plus seasons; ** Playoff qualifiers the last six years, including four straight trips to the regional quarterfinals before advancing to the Region III finals last season; ** A district-winning streak of 54 games over four-plus seasons; ** A 17-13 record this season, with 12 of those losses having come against programs with a combined 243-71 record. Eight of those teams have already won 20 or more games; ** Led by a coach who has won 462 games in his 22-plus seasons. Boy, I bet Coach Bartlett tosses and turns every night in bed thinking about how embarrassing his program is. Example No. 2: A veteran coach recently told me that one of his former players had considered getting into high school coaching, but said, I don't think I can take the criticism. I'm not tough enough. Example No. 3: The constant ringing tune of Play a different quarterback! shouted from the Morton Ranch stands during the majority of the 2007 football season. I'm sure that was pleasant for the quarterback who was playing. Example No. 4 through infinity: Time-wasting, mind-numbing meetings with parents who aren't happy with their child's playing time. Now, understand that I come at this from three different angles: parent of a teenager, a former high school coach, and a sports writer. As a parent whose child played basketball as a freshman and has been in the tennis program at Cy-Fair High School for three years, it is tough to watch her play. It ached at times when she didn't get to play as a freshman because I love my daughter. I am selfish and am extremely protective of her well-being. We all want our children to play the entire game, succeed, and be champions. This is unrealistic. It is Fantasy Land, spurred by our changing society. High school sports is not Fun-Fair-Positive-Soccer. FFPS is a great program for youngsters, but playing high school sports prepares teenagers for life. Life is not always fun, it's hardly ever fair, and you're never going to live a day without someone being negative about something. So, how do I best love my daughter? By letting her experience all aspects of high school sports, the good times and the rough times. By letting her learn to deal with adults, i.e. the coach, if she has a question or is discouraged. If I start fighting her battles now, what will she do in college and once she has a job? Will she expect me to call her professor or boss when she has a problem or dilemma? Even worse, will she expect me to go over the head of her direct supervisor/teacher/coach to the athletic coordinator/principal/dean/CEO, without first privately following the chain of command? Although my daughter has rarely complained about anything in athletics, when she does, her mother and I say, Talk to the Coach. Rather than fighting these battles for her, I stand deep in the bleachers or far away from the court and mumble about strategy or coaching techniques, but I keep them to myself. As a former high school coach, albeit for only three years, I agonized over lineups and trying to get everyone into a match. In tennis things are more cut and dried because we have a challenge ladder and you can prove one-on-one who best deserves a certain spot, but I can promise you that the No. 1 dilemma, and there isn't a close second, for all coaches is how to decide playing time. No coach, repeat, NO COACH!!! goes into a match or game thinking, Boy, I'm not going to play so-and-so just to upset him/her. Deciding who does or does not play, or how long someone plays, is not based on malice. It's done after watching hours of practice and games, watching tape, and scouting opponents. Varsity coaches have to decide on what lineup can best help them win on that night, not on stroking the egos of the players (or sometimes, the parents). As a sports writer, one who wrote his first story for a professional paper in 1976, I have seen a disintegration of the team (Together Everyone Accomplishes More!). Instead of having a team of players, you have individuals who play for a team. Encouraged by greedy club coaches and sometimes-misguided parents who have forked out thousands of dollars to chase that not-inevitable scholarship, high school coaches have become targets with large red circles on their backs. These coaches, who, by the way, are first and foremost classroom teachers, go to clinics, study tapes until all hours of the morning, or go scouting when they could be home with their families, but somehow that doesn't make them as qualified as those of us who sit in the stands. Do you not see their bloodshot eyes late in a season? Do you not see them when they are at the hospital with an injured player at 3 a.m., then head to 6 a.m. practice? Do you not see them representing our schools and our children with humility and grace? Do you not see how much they LOVE children? Trust me, it's easy to be a coach from the stands. I do it every time I cover a game, but that doesn't mean I'm qualified to do so from the field or the bench. Like any sports writer, there's not a coach alive who hasn't questioned the strategy of a fellow coach, but you're not hearing them yell it from the stands or calling the principal the next morning because Johnny or Julie didn't play. Winning at all costs or being a breeding ground for college programs is not the ultimate goal of a high school sports program. It's about teaching kids about academic and behavioral responsibility, and sacrificing the goals of the individual for the betterment of the team. I'd say probably 90 percent of the parents understand this; it's the 10 percent who make coaches dread answering the phone or looking at their emails. Friends, our coaches deserve better. Before shouting that slur or making that call or sending an email, please look in the mirror and ask yourself, Is this about the TEAM, or this about ME?
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Post by tog on Feb 2, 2009 14:31:56 GMT -6
Football is no longer about lining up and knocking somebody's block off. That's a good thing. False. i disagree here too hemlock 1. i think it still is about who can knock the other guy's block off 2. and that is a good thing--we as a society need more competition---i can't think of a better way to compete than to have me see if i can block you--or if you can tackle me
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Post by tog on Feb 2, 2009 13:36:19 GMT -6
i think it should be mandatory that all defensive linemen wear roller skates
next
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Post by tog on Feb 2, 2009 13:35:36 GMT -6
There is also a minimum but no maximum on the size of pads you can wear, we are going to swaddle our defenders in enough pads to create a sideline to sideline wall that is 10 ft high, there is no rule against it. Who cares if it is not in the "spirit" of the game, you old fuddy duddys just hate innovators. love it let's all dress up like goalies in hockey and just form a red rover chain we all have the right to have our defense do that
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Post by tog on Feb 2, 2009 13:30:37 GMT -6
i would be all for a new federation
one that uses the ncaa rules to start with
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Post by tog on Feb 2, 2009 8:48:05 GMT -6
Actually Tog: One of the major factors presented to us by more than one group around the country is exactly that, for many years teams either in the same state (that play under varied rules) and/or two teams playing each other from different states that have varied rules Do play each other. So Yes, that has been happening for years and years, and to be honest, it is rather interesting to hear what they are saying, etc. And so again, in just this one item, teams competing vs. each other even though their league, section or state has differing rules, has been happening for many years. The precedent has already been established. Take Care, KB this doesn't mean it is right I will take Texas for example. When the UIL put two private schools in with the Publics, well fine and dandy. The people they were put in a district with pretty much had to play them. EVERYONE ELSE should not have scheduled them for non district games. That would have made it tough on em to get going.
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Post by tog on Feb 2, 2009 0:20:23 GMT -6
Coaches: Appreciate the candor about the various possibilites regarding the future of football, and to the handful of guys who like to name-call, whew boy, does that make you look very weak. And, the reason I can't comment for now on other items being presented to us by these groups, I gave my word and of course signed the appropriate documents covering that - standard. More importantly, it is critical to understand, there are a lot more small schools to mid-size schools in America that have made it clear to us they want to be able to Retain the right to use A-11 on any down if they desire. And, if the NFHS attempts to ban it. Then YES, there are several viable options being presented to us for Any team wanting to use the offense on 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th down. I respect the fact some coaches hate one offense, and love another, and so on. More importantly, it is a Free country (Thank God), and if a school, group of schools, or segment of schools decide it is better for them to Retain the Ability to use the A-11 if they want to, then good for them. If not, then good for them too. There is plenty of room in America for more than one style or brand of football. * Great 4th quarter tonight, too bad the Cards lost. Best of luck to you guys in everything you do. KB who is name calling? i would hope that anyone that is in a league that says a11 is illegal would not schedule someone that uses it
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Post by tog on Feb 1, 2009 14:57:33 GMT -6
I have tried hard to stay out of the fray, but this thread has finally caused me to snap. All of the arguments on both sides have been made ad nauseum. What it comes down to, plain and simple, is that by exploiting the Scrimmage Kick Exception, Kurt and others are going to force the Fed to change the Exception - it's only a matter of time - if not this year, soon. What has really bothered me the most is the constant repetition of phrases like "that's all I can say about that right now". It's all about secrecy and behind-closed-doors, constantly looking for someone within the Fed or State associations to validate what is clearly an attempt to go around the rules to, IMO, personally benefit from selling DVDs and books and making the rounds of Clinics. Let's put this crap behind us and get back to kids! OK, I'm dismounting from my high horse now. ride em cowboy
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Post by tog on Feb 1, 2009 13:48:18 GMT -6
If the entire country would just go to NCAA rules and play real football this wouldn't be an issue. agreed and hemlock real football is where you can cut someone and the a-11 is not allowed my two cents
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Post by tog on Jan 30, 2009 20:28:26 GMT -6
I have yet to figure out why the A 11 generates such dislike. It is an offense just like any other. I generally think those who dislike it tend to dislike any offense which is not telephone booth like. offenses which use creativity and require the opponent to take time out of their practice or change a defense is what I like. I do not think it will be banned to be honest. Coach B got the blessing of the Fed before he when ahead with the offense. 1. this is the same fed with football rules that are really really lame 2. you have read enough about the offense my team uses--are we phonebooth? and I can't stand the idea of the a-11 3. i don't want linemen to go the way of the dodo bird 4. i hope it gets banned 5. i have heard from a couple of sources that it would
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Post by tog on Jan 30, 2009 9:52:03 GMT -6
I asked one of our state reps that went to the meeting. It will not become public until it goes through the board. He said 5 weeks probably. I asked him on Jan 26th. The question was asked on the A11 forum and it was answered w/ a generic answer and then was locked w/ no further question. That seems to point to the direction of it was ruled out. let us hope so
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Post by tog on Jan 30, 2009 9:51:13 GMT -6
some say they want a masters as a way to just cut down on the number of applicants
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Post by tog on Jan 29, 2009 20:37:26 GMT -6
bigm
we don't need to hear your personal biz
lol
joke
anyhow
i worked with my wife at the same school for a year
she was even my assistant powerlifting coach
it was great no problems
we had a good principal and staff to work with and different populations of kids to work with as well
but all of our football kids knew her and i tried to make sure most of the football kids knew her special needs kids
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Post by tog on Jan 29, 2009 16:07:28 GMT -6
have done 30 minutes regularly for the last 5 years. did an hour and a half for a semester once when i was getting married and finishing out at my old school/while working with the kids at my new school and staying at my fiancee's (now wife) apt that was not fun at all just wears you out
that is about as far as I want to go
I could swing an hour or so for a semester if I had to, maybe a full year, but would do something about it to not. It just wears you out too much. I have been on staff with guys that commuted more than an hour for years. I don't know how they do it.
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Post by tog on Jan 27, 2009 21:24:43 GMT -6
yes and no
the problem is here
the rest of our education system has gone to hell
feeling means more than doing wanting means more than doing
administrators are scared of doing what is right and what is best for the kids because they don't want to get sued by the trial lawyers
soo
do i take it serious?
yes
damn serious
this is the last rampart of truth/justice/work ethic/consequences/competition left in this oneworlderenviromentalistwhacko un commie world we are in
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Post by tog on Jan 24, 2009 18:28:13 GMT -6
the slot-t as run by liberty hill is a thing of beauty
they have few formation tells like other wing-t's slot-t's I have seen as they can be totally balanced and screw you in so many ways on your base adjustments to their quick motion etc
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Post by tog on Jan 21, 2009 13:21:28 GMT -6
some kids get yelled at enough at home
their automated defense mechanism is to just shut down
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Post by tog on Jan 20, 2009 20:01:36 GMT -6
if I had to guess about 5% of the time I have ever "yelled" at the players (mind you, other than just getting loud so people can hear in the wind/wts etc) I might have been fired up and let slip
most all the time when I get "fired up" I know exactly what I am doing and I am doing it for a reason
every once in a while, a player asks me or says something along the lines ( hey you don't want to make coach tog mad blah blah blah) I then say
you have never seen me mad
and I mean it
i have learned to control the fury/rage etc it takes to play the game the way I think it should be played at and understand that kids may not get this, and that overall, they are kids and will make mistakes
hell
the other day i got pissed watching andy reid jump all up and down his kicker after missing a fg
i told my wife
well i bet that does a lot of good
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Post by tog on Jan 20, 2009 19:56:13 GMT -6
the last two or three clinics I actually took notes on (most were useless---stat reading blah blah blah chest thumping stuff, OR stuff that was not very in depth) were ALL overhead
the guys could draw fast and furious though
nothing worse than seeing someone draw a template and mumble on about how the pancakesplatter defense is the most aweseomest ever
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Post by tog on Jan 19, 2009 13:00:20 GMT -6
thought we were talking about some sort of giant sign to signal plays in Like Oklahoma State? Haha. That works while looking ridiculous at the same time. yeah and is there really a need for it?
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Post by tog on Jan 19, 2009 11:11:46 GMT -6
There are also often erasable ones at hardware stores and office supply stores. My "redneck engineering" one was to take a small dry erase board, remove the pretty pink border and epoxy that bad boy onto the back of my clipboard. Tog- For O-Line coaches those little boards can be invaluable to make quick adjustments to plays if you see a front you haven't prepared for, or an unusually good player that you need to double team. sideline dry erase board to just show the kids? yes used many many versions of those thought we were talking about some sort of giant sign to signal plays in
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Post by tog on Jan 18, 2009 21:39:38 GMT -6
why?
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Post by tog on Jan 16, 2009 23:36:18 GMT -6
good idea g
using the kids is always a good idea they are the ones with the stroke
that and having coaches that can relate to kids and get them to commit are vital in building a program
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