|
|
Post by touchdownmaker on Feb 5, 2009 8:31:17 GMT -6
One of my juniors approached me today about college.
I told him I would do everything I could do to help him and told him that the first thing college coaches ask me are about a kids SAT scores, grades and discipline/character. They typically ask then about size and speed, height wt and wt room work ethic. I have never been asked about stats or positions.
What things should I be doing to help my kids get into college???
|
|
|
|
Post by wingtol on Feb 5, 2009 8:46:06 GMT -6
Send film, call schools they are interested in, tell them to goto a summer camp at a college or two to be seen. Tell them you will do what you can but you can not guarantee them anything since it's the college coaches who decide which players to take.
|
|
sbv
Sophomore Member
Posts: 171
|
Post by sbv on Feb 5, 2009 9:04:21 GMT -6
This year I sold my butt off to NAIA schools. I had two seniors who were not good academically. They both told me that they wanted to play college ball, I told them that they couldn't pass NCAA clearinghouse but if they get their grades up and score at least an 18 on the ACT they could get into an NAIA school and then called and emailed all the NAIA schools in a 5 hour radius and sent film. Two schools were pretty interested. I reminded the boys that they need to stay on top of their grades and take their ACT (this was October). At the end of the season one school invites them up for a visit day. They show up 3 hours late. I get mad, yell at them, blah, blah, blah. One bridge burned not only for them but for future guys who want to go there. At Christmas break both have grades up (GPA over a 2.0). I tell them they HAVE got to take the ACT. Remind them of the ACT again when we get back. At the end of January, the other school wants them to come and visit so I plan on driving the boys to the school 4 hours away to make sure they get there but one of them has his uncle (his legal guardian) who wants to go so I figure I can trust his uncle to get the boys there on time. Nope, the uncle gets called in to work on Saturday, the boys don't call me or the college coach, I get a call from the coach making sure the boys are safe and once again I yell at the boys. Another bridge burned. On top of this, only one kid signed up for the ACT this saturday, the other missed the late deadline and is signed up for April (his chances for a scholly are gone because schools don't hold money back hoping he'll become eligable). The other one still has a chance. What I learned is that you need to make sure the kids you work hard for are willing to work hard themselves. There, my rant is over.
|
|
|
|
Post by tog on Feb 5, 2009 9:36:22 GMT -6
first
they have to
1. want to go
2. do what it takes to be able to get in
3. be good enough
i do these things
1. make list of all potential candidates, phone numbers, addresses, parent's names, ht, wt, positions etc, possible level of play they can play at--your basic info
2. transcripts and sat/act scores---we scan them into a giant file that shows each of the kids on our list
3. highlight films--we cut em up, get em on the computer--then download em onto googlevideo that we can put links in an email
4. game film-we put selected ones on googlevideo
then
every coach that comes by
every coach that calls
every coach that emails
every coach anyone on staff knows
every coach i can even find an email on in this state
every coach that i can then find an email on out of the blue
we send them all emails with all of this info and links to the video
it has pretty much all the information they need to evaluate talent/level of play/eligible or not
when they get interested in that-they come around, email back, call back
gets the ball rolling a bit
saves the whole tape/dvd copying mailing nightmare
makes it easy on the recruiter's end to
pop open an email--click a link
ok that kid can't play here
ok
that kid CAN
what are his grades
ok
he is good
|
|
|
|
Post by bobgoodman on Feb 5, 2009 9:46:34 GMT -6
Had nothing to do with football, but I tutored a friend's doctor's hydrocephalic girl for money. I was surprised to learn a year later that she'd gotten into college. I'll take some credit.
|
|
|
|
Post by coachinghopeful on Feb 5, 2009 14:56:01 GMT -6
Physically, what would you say would be good guidelines for a kid when trying to find schools where he'd fit? Obviously, the bigger, stronger, faster the better, but what are realistic norms in terms of what, say, an NAIA or Div. II or III school would look for in terms of size, speed,weightroom numbers, etc for kids at varying positions? Everyone can find numbers on the major BCS recruits to get a feel for what the competition is, but beyond that, things are murky.
If you've got, say, a raw 6'2 245lb linemen who didn't play before his senior year and only benches about 225 and runs 5.3 but nonetheless is a solid kid who flashes some talent and potential, or a RB/DB who's only about 5'7" 160lbs and runs 4.75, but is really quick and lives for football, would you encourage them to try to catch on at the NAIA level or just be honest that their playing days are likely done?
|
|
rimkusjm
Sophomore Member
[F4:@coachrimmy]
Posts: 149 
|
Post by rimkusjm on Feb 5, 2009 15:32:23 GMT -6
'tog' hit it on the head. As a current D2 coach - that is perfect! I wish every coach did that.
|
|
|
|
Post by jgordon1 on Feb 5, 2009 19:53:55 GMT -6
TOG: excellent idea w/ the google video
|
|
begreat
Junior Member
I don't have a bunch of hobbies, football is my hobby. They just pay me to do it. ---Mike Tomiln
Posts: 293
|
Post by begreat on Feb 5, 2009 22:00:18 GMT -6
I'm with TOG. I email coaches year round just to build some type of relationship. I'll email guys all around the nation to see if they want players. Being that we are in Tx its alil easier even if the kid isnt the best player. I had a kid catch 22 balls and no tds. he's playing at Howard Payne. It does take a hard working kid but ive been around alot of coaches that dont work very hard to help kids. They only want the college coaches to come to them. I've only coached 3 years but ive gotten alot of kids to college. There arent all d1 big time guys but they are playing on the next level. One of the main reason's i'm in the profession is to help teach kids character and help get as many as I can to the next level.
|
|
|
|
Post by touchdownmaker on Feb 6, 2009 4:26:05 GMT -6
Physically, what would you say would be good guidelines for a kid when trying to find schools where he'd fit? Obviously, the bigger, stronger, faster the better, but what are realistic norms in terms of what, say, an NAIA or Div. II or III school would look for in terms of size, speed,weightroom numbers, etc for kids at varying positions? Everyone can find numbers on the major BCS recruits to get a feel for what the competition is, but beyond that, things are murky. If you've got, say, a raw 6'2 245lb linemen who didn't play before his senior year and only benches about 225 and runs 5.3 but nonetheless is a solid kid who flashes some talent and potential, or a RB/DB who's only about 5'7" 160lbs and runs 4.75, but is really quick and lives for football, would you encourage them to try to catch on at the NAIA level or just be honest that their playing days are likely done? you certainly do not want to be THAT GUY that tells a kid that he is done playing...youll be in the paper when he says "my hs coach told me i couldnt play college ball...guess hes a boob" when he does make it. i think we owe it to our kids to push hard for them to at least make lower level football (which honestly, if a kid wants to play, he can play) |
|
|
|
Post by Bill Vasko on Feb 6, 2009 4:36:56 GMT -6
I have a # of college coaches on my site. I started a recruiting section and I am trying to encourage HS coaches to post video and profile info of their recruits to help with exposure. You can upload video right from youtube or google. If coaches post their stuff, more college coaches will come. I'm willing to do anything to help coaches get more exposure for their kids.
|
|
|
|
Post by nickbach on Feb 6, 2009 17:36:12 GMT -6
Send film!!!!!!!!
Simplest answer I can give you
Current D2coach
|
|
