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Post by Defcord on Sept 18, 2018 11:11:58 GMT -6
Yep. Once played a team that put 11 in the box and didn't cover our receivers after we took a big lead. We didn't even run routes, just lobbed to him like a lazy bubble screen. Their coach went ballistic, but {censored} him. I'm not going to run my kids into 11 guys and get hurt because they feel bad and can't stop us. This is a big one for me. You either play a legit defense or don't complain. Now I am not advocating for double reverse pass or Hook-&-Ladder; but I will not run my kid into a meat grinder. I agree with this. I don't mind your starters being in but if you are sending the house and putting us at risk don't expect us to play along.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 14, 2018 5:14:22 GMT -6
Coach Cingrats! Huge win...kept it rolling!
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Post by Defcord on Sept 12, 2018 9:29:54 GMT -6
When we get this, I remind our hc/Oc that we are going to need help from him. We either need to out shoot them or we need to keep their stud off the field by grinding the clock. All three phases of the game are closely related and in situations where you are outmanned it is even more vital to synergize as a complete team.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 7, 2018 12:55:11 GMT -6
Cornjerkers is my favorite. Sounds like there's going to be a cornjerking contest at some team camp that's going to get a coach fired at some point. it was okay because no syrup was involved, nor were there any hot dog buns Yet.....watch out for the cob!
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Post by Defcord on Sept 7, 2018 10:08:20 GMT -6
Cornjerkers is my favorite. Sounds like there's going to be a cornjerking contest at some team camp that's going to get a coach fired at some point.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 6, 2018 17:19:20 GMT -6
I'm a former coach. My wife is band teacher at a local school. Most years the fall band has 25-30 kids. Spring ( concert )band has 70 plus. This year the admin puts band vs a senior math class and junior chemistry on the class schedule. Only 13 in fall band, 22 in concert band. Last Friday, first home game, no pep band or halftime. Pretty quiet 15 minutes at halftime...... The football team has 25 out this fall. Biggest school in the league, around 80 some boys in school. Only school in league with soccer and closest road game is two-2.5 hours away. Got to wonder why they have that sport. Btw, more out for soccer than FB. I always wondered why marching band was in the schedule. Isn't it an after school activity The biggest scam ever is when the band people for kids with grades to attend after school events. I have seen this at multiple schools where if kids miss band practice or events after school they get zeros in class. I just don’t see how it flies. I love the band but that’s just not something that should’ve allowed to happen.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 6, 2018 11:27:10 GMT -6
When I was in Florida I think the rule was once it hits 35 it is a running clock. I am not sure because it never happened but I think if it goes back below 35 it goes back to a normal clock.
In all the other states I have been in both coaches have to agree.
When I was in Indiana we beat a team 74-6 and we weren't very good. It was a 3 hour bus ride and we only dressed 30 kids so starters were out at half. The officials asked the other coach if we could go to a running clock and he refused. I had to meet with Principal and Superintendent on Monday and explain how the game got so out of hand.
I know a lot of coaches refuse the running clock because they feel like they are giving up. I think there needs to be an automatic rule in place to help with this. Whatever the rule is is fine with me but then the coach of the losing team doesn't have to go back to his kids and say he agreed to give in. Most rational people understand why the clock is ran but some kids and community members aren't rational.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 4, 2018 9:37:26 GMT -6
The Pekin...pretty bad. Bunnies is kind of interesting and unique.
Pekin is a school-city, not the mascot.
I get that. What I saw on google was that at one point their mascot was the chinks. Until it was later changed to the dragons. That's what I was referring to as bizarre and surprising that it was ever improved. www.cbsnews.com/pictures/controversial-mascots/13/
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Post by Defcord on Sept 4, 2018 5:30:52 GMT -6
That’s pretty bizarre. You can only have so many wildcats and bulldogs before you have to start going out of the box, I guess. Can’t imagine how that one was ever approved at all. Which? The Bunnies or Pekin? The Pekin...pretty bad. Bunnies is kind of interesting and unique.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 3, 2018 19:45:51 GMT -6
An Illinois message board adopted them as their out of Chicago team a few years ago and actively supported them. There are a few great mascots in Illinois and a few former not so good (see Pekin Illinois) That’s pretty bizarre. You can only have so many wildcats and bulldogs before you have to start going out of the box, I guess. Can’t imagine how that one was ever approved at all.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 1, 2018 6:12:24 GMT -6
We get out pretty early. I don’t mind it but I don’t love it either. A couple years in baseball I worked for a guy that had an extremely elaborate pregame i/o. It was awesome but it didn’t make sense to me why would spend so much time and energy on it.
He would get pissed if kids kicked it or skied a throw. One day I asked him what the purpose of the whole thing was. His response was that it got us ready to play baseball. I followed up with, if it gets us ready why don’t we do it before practices. He said damm, that’s a great question.
So we started doing it before practice everyday. After a couple practices he thought it took away minutes that were more useful so he shortened it up. He did the same in pregame.
That to me was really smart. I loved the way it looked but I didn’t understand the purpose.
In football I would shape the start of my practices and my pregame as close as I could. I think humans, young ones particularly thrive in the known. Sometimes games get turned into a spectacle and kids get caught in the atmosphere of the experience and the football they play on Friday is quite different than the football they prepared for all week.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 27, 2018 19:21:58 GMT -6
i hated being a head coach and I didn’t have a fraction of the issues some of you guys are talking about.
This game can eat you up. The constant input into your life can add up pretty quickly. Even with the many positive aspects it seems like there is always an issue to address.
My current team is 2-0 and we beat a team ranked #2 in the state in the division below us first week and beat anothers pretty well coached and talented team in week 2. Our head coach said when he went to get lunch the day after the game a random townie told him throw it more and the parent of a school student fussed at him because the concession stands selection was too limited.
So even if you clean up the issues and challenges you are facing now there will probably just be more around the corner.
That doesn’t mean don’t give it your best shot. Keep working hard and setting the example. Good luck!
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Post by Defcord on Aug 26, 2018 11:16:40 GMT -6
Doctors orders may be dumb. But if you don’t follow the dumb doctor you may be dealing with a smart lawyer. You missed my point. Just sit her out. Why practice someone who is injured anyway Yes I did.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 26, 2018 5:27:47 GMT -6
Admittedly I haven’t read every reply but has anyone addressed the fact the the Drs orders are the dumbest I have ever seen. It’s pretty much standard operating procedure that a kid with a Drs note is out for 2 weeks no matter what it is. It’s annoying but I have never seen one who said they are too hurt for everything but they can do half ? If it says they can do light physical activity then we just sit them anyway cause who cares...go walk the track??? You have to treat her the way you would treat anyone else but in my opinion why waist reps on someone who can’t play Doctors orders may be dumb. But if you don’t follow the dumb doctor you may be dealing with a smart lawyer.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 25, 2018 19:11:15 GMT -6
That is an ambiguous statement. The playoff qualifications are different in every state. Heck in Indiana everyone makes the playoffs. L Much of what I say is meant to be guarded. And It is better for me to be guarded. Fair enough
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Post by Defcord on Aug 25, 2018 14:33:32 GMT -6
I gotta be a d!ck and ask...what was your record after doing all this We made the playoff and I will leave it at that. A lot of it is " this is how its done..." Attitude. Their is a lot of non sense involved. A lot of it is only 15-20 pct staff on a full time basis. That is an ambiguous statement. The playoff qualifications are different in every state. Heck in Indiana everyone makes the playoffs.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 25, 2018 7:07:03 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm wondering what the trainer has to say about the injury. Where are the instructions about what she can and can't do coming from? What's her time frame? Besides conditioning running what else can't she do? The instructions are coming from her own doctor. She relays the message to the HC and the other coaches. As far as i know our trainer is not involved with this one particular student, as she has been going to her own physician and following his instructions. From what i've been told the time frame for her to be fully healed is about 8-10 weeks from now, putting her at either the last game of the season or past the last game. Aside from running in a straight line, she is not supposed to make quick cuts, or move laterally. Additionally i dont believe she has been practicing tackling either. If her doctor tells her she can’t do something then she can’t do that thing. Also even if she is seeing her own physician then the trainer should still be involved in the monitoring and implementation of her plan to recovery. It may not be because she’s a girl but it seems like there are people in the program that are putting too much energy in what this player is doing or not doing. You can’t expect a player to disregard their doctors instructions. You can think the doctor is wrong but the doctor is the expert. The coaches and the kids that are displeased really should probably just move on. There’s got to be more important uses of the energy.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 25, 2018 6:55:53 GMT -6
What the phuk is there to do in the summer for 30 hours?? We didn't do 30...but, we went through every male in the school and evaluated their interest potential, 2hrs a day in the weight room, last 3 games of last year of several opp. We play this year, re evaluated every game last year, like we were playing a game (coaches only), we went to our own clinic of what we do scheme and technique wise, 7 o 7, o line camp, big man camp, big man camp, Did you guys spend any time with your families? Go to a water park, take a road trip, see a movie at least. That’s a lot of work. I know it’s impossiblr to gauge but how much of a difference does all of that stuff make versus a light load? I understand there’s work to be done but I want to find that perfect line of doing as much as needed to be successful but nothing more.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 24, 2018 3:29:49 GMT -6
So they would just rather her do nothing and stand around in street clothes? That’s an odd way of thinking. Seems like there is a lack of communication on what she is cleared to do. Someone, usually a trainer, should put a recovery plan in place. The player should follow that plan to the best of their ability. The coached should make sure that plan is followed so that the injured player can get healthy as soon as possible. The other players should work hard and focus on what they can do to be optimal in meeting their own personal goals and contributing to the teams efforts in meeting its goals. Players shouldn’t be able to pick their own plan to recovery. And teammates shouldn’t be charged with enforcing practice and game participation. Kids are acting like kids because someone is missing the ball as an adult. How i have perceived it is with the mindset being 'if you are injured and cant practice, fine. But if you can kinda practice, you should at least have to do the hard (not fun) stuff too". Yeah the ambiguous nature of the recovery is a little sketchy. My thought is that there should be an expert, hopefully a trainer in place to develop and implement a recovery plan. I don’t agree it has to be all or nothing. The injury protocol is a build up where players slowly work themselves back with segmentmented parts of the game. I am not sure the specific of your player but a “protocol” might clear things up.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 23, 2018 18:41:37 GMT -6
So to clarify a couple things. When she joined the other kids on the ground, those kids have some sort of leg injury and are doing push ups/planks/crunches etc. And to the point about what about the teams feelings towards the hurt kids sitting on the ground. No the team isnt upset with them as they have injuries to their lower body that inhibit them from running, however they are doing other forms of a workout while everyone else is doing conditioning. Those kids arent doing some of the work and then deciding to stop, they are doing an alternate form of workout from the beginning. As i have perceived it, the issue with the team isnt that she is female and not doing all the work. The issue is she is not doing all the work. Had she gone with the injured kids and done the alternate workout i dont believe this issue would have come up. However she instead did part of the conditioning and then stopped. We do have an athletic trainer, however, his job is not to actively rehab players, his job is to monitor injuries provide some medical assistance and be the primary person in communication with the players actual doctor. He recommends stretches, does light diagnosis, but we do not have anyone on staff whose job is to rehab athletes. The rest of the team knows that she isnt playing in this week's game, but i dont believe they know if she will 'play' in any of the games. It appears to me that the issue they have is that she is able to refer to herself as being on the team or a part of the team without having to do all the work as everybody else. Additionally, another point brought up, was that some of the players wouldnt care if she (or anyone) was hurt and could not practice fully, they are upset that she is only doing some elements of the practice, and not doing all of it. If she came to practice in her street clothes and just watched they wouldn't care. As for the injury thing. This is where i get confused. As she has a legitimate injury, but she is still electing to do some parts of practice. So it's not a question of can she go or not, it's not that simple of a question. If the question was can she go as in go into a game, it's a No. If the question is can she go as in participate in practice it depends and is sometimes Yes and sometimes No. So they would just rather her do nothing and stand around in street clothes? That’s an odd way of thinking. Seems like there is a lack of communication on what she is cleared to do. Someone, usually a trainer, should put a recovery plan in place. The player should follow that plan to the best of their ability. The coached should make sure that plan is followed so that the injured player can get healthy as soon as possible. The other players should work hard and focus on what they can do to be optimal in meeting their own personal goals and contributing to the teams efforts in meeting its goals. Players shouldn’t be able to pick their own plan to recovery. And teammates shouldn’t be charged with enforcing practice and game participation. Kids are acting like kids because someone is missing the ball as an adult.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 23, 2018 11:19:49 GMT -6
I have been in Indiana, North Carolina, Florida and now South Carolina
Indiana $1500-$7500 is what I knew about North Carolina the school I was at every varsity assistant in all sports got $1000. No more; no less; no reason. Florida was 2000-3000 in the county I was in South Carolina my pay as a position assistant last year was $4500; this year I am a coordinator so I think it's $6500
I have heard stories of guys getting 15,000 to 20,000 in areas but I have never met those guy.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 22, 2018 10:56:00 GMT -6
Nope, older than me. He has mostly coached youth ball, with one previous year of HS ball.
There's your reason for his behavior. He needs to understand he's not coaching youth ball anymore.
I hope youth ball coaches don't just talk through individual periods. I would think youth coaches should almost talk less because their kids have a smaller ability to reason on why the drill is useful.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 20, 2018 19:48:25 GMT -6
How are his kids performing? If he is getting the job done I would spare him flexibility.
I hate when guys are out there putting on a clinic talk but sometimes kids actual are more confident having heard the coaching.
In my Indy groups we have our everyday stuff that we are going to hit. For me I am not stopping the drill for anything because we do it so much it is just fine tuning. We are correcting but we aren’t stopping. But there are some correction type drills that I will use if something we find critical isn’t showing up like we want. I will slow these down some and explain the why a little more. Now it’s going to be a brief slowing down but sometimes the kids might feel like they need to hear it so I try to reinforce the reason for the drill and the importance of the skills execution.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 16, 2018 6:22:34 GMT -6
I have never been able to get an aggressive thud tempo in practice. We use the leverage and tag off as a tempo and emphasize speeding the feet on contact. Also we do a strip tempo where they they are in a leverage position and try to strip the football at arrival. On both we emphasize staying in motion with near foot to the near hip of the ball carrier. So far it has been pretty good for us. Also in both tempos we have the offensive ball carrier run hard for another ten yards which helps us get our back end involved in pursuit, when we would go thud or live in the past our scout team was so bad that we would almost always have no gain it loss of yard plays so our dbs weren’t getting good work.
I am interested to hear how guys get good thud tempo sessions because I wouldn’t mind a little more physical periods in practice on occasion.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 16, 2018 5:50:26 GMT -6
The last line seems to make it sound like CYA for the state. Maybe thinking 48 other states do it one way and that could put them in a situation if a player was injured with a rule that differs between NFHS and NCAA in a negligible position. That could be.....I actually think ncaa rules around cutting make the game safer.......it is inconsistency in the FBZ that leads to injuries I don't disagree with you, but in our litigious society common sense doesn't always rule the day.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 15, 2018 16:53:12 GMT -6
The 10-1 vote, with one abstention, followed a 19-0 decision by the association’s Tournament Management Committee in March to use NFHS rules for all eligible sports, eliminating any inconsistencies — and risk of possible litigation.Sounds like it was this TMC that made the change and forced Mass to adopt the Fed. Any idea on the why? The last line seems to make it sound like CYA for the state. Maybe thinking 48 other states do it one way and that could put them in a situation if a player was injured with a rule that differs between NFHS and NCAA in a negligible position.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 14, 2018 6:01:11 GMT -6
I found out in my year off that I just don't know how to not be part of a team. I don't watch the NFL and only watch limited college football, but man I can't imagine not belonging to a high school football team. I love the interactions, I love commonality of purpose, I love being on the team.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 13, 2018 19:41:28 GMT -6
I used to work for a good principal that said you get what you emphasize. I tend to believe it’s true so we are giving awards every week.
Our defensive philosophy is bring the heat. Hustle, effort, attitude, tenacity. I give an award certificate and a bag of hot Cheetos every week to 4 players one for each of those attributes. I find a play in practice or game film that shows a player doing something as an example of it. I also give a payday candy bar for a takeaway. The actual awards are silly but for me it goes back to you get what you emphasize and the more opportunities I get to recognize and reinforce the things I am looking for the better.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 11, 2018 19:24:05 GMT -6
In today's day and age you have to be brain damaged to think that anything even remotely abusive won't land youre a$$ in a poke. How a program thinks it could operate that way is baffling again if its at all true On top of this is the fact that nearly everything is on record. Cameras are every where, which scares me in many regards, but also can help verify the truth in these types of situations.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 11, 2018 16:52:08 GMT -6
Just out of curiosity after having the great season did he carry that momentum into the offseason? It’s great to see kids come out and have success. I hope most would build on that success the following off season. I would worry that some would take an approach that they had a ton of success without an off-season and want to miss again. Curious to see how your kid played out. That was his Senior year so we didn't get him again. I knew that was a possibly answer but hoped to hear something out. Do you think he would have attended?
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