els36
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Post by els36 on Aug 15, 2018 18:57:39 GMT -6
Anyone only do "thud" contact in practice? Just thinking if ways to keep our kids fresh and healthy. Right now we go live for 10 minutes 2x a week.
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center
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Post by center on Aug 15, 2018 19:35:08 GMT -6
I think thud only practices are pretty common now. I know a lot of schools that rarely go live, if at all during the season.
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Post by agap on Aug 15, 2018 19:47:18 GMT -6
We only went thud for the past few years. We had a lot less injuries.
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Post by coachdawhip on Aug 15, 2018 21:40:54 GMT -6
We only do THUD
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Post by dubber on Aug 16, 2018 4:03:34 GMT -6
We try to, especially versus scout.
Our defense does a good job of not teeing off on the ball carrier, keeping him off the ground etc.
Offense is another story.....our line reminds me of that famous line from Spaceballs.....
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Post by CS on Aug 16, 2018 4:46:20 GMT -6
We try to, especially versus scout. Our defense does a good job of not teeing off on the ball carrier, keeping him off the ground etc. Offense is another story.....our line reminds me of that famous line from Spaceballs..... I see your Schwartz is as big as mine? |
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Post by CS on Aug 16, 2018 4:48:05 GMT -6
Anyone only do "thud" contact in practice? Just thinking if ways to keep our kids fresh and healthy. Right now we go live for 10 minutes 2x a week. The way I see it is that when you are leading up to the season it's important to go live more because you need to see who can and will hit and tackle. In season you are already going full contact once a week for an extended period of time so the need to do it in practice isn't there. |
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Post by Defcord on Aug 16, 2018 6:22:34 GMT -6
I have never been able to get an aggressive thud tempo in practice. We use the leverage and tag off as a tempo and emphasize speeding the feet on contact. Also we do a strip tempo where they they are in a leverage position and try to strip the football at arrival. On both we emphasize staying in motion with near foot to the near hip of the ball carrier. So far it has been pretty good for us. Also in both tempos we have the offensive ball carrier run hard for another ten yards which helps us get our back end involved in pursuit, when we would go thud or live in the past our scout team was so bad that we would almost always have no gain it loss of yard plays so our dbs weren’t getting good work.
I am interested to hear how guys get good thud tempo sessions because I wouldn’t mind a little more physical periods in practice on occasion.
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Post by coachks on Aug 16, 2018 6:42:51 GMT -6
I have never been able to get an aggressive thud tempo in practice. We use the leverage and tag off as a tempo and emphasize speeding the feet on contact. Also we do a strip tempo where they they are in a leverage position and try to strip the football at arrival. On both we emphasize staying in motion with near foot to the near hip of the ball carrier. So far it has been pretty good for us. Also in both tempos we have the offensive ball carrier run hard for another ten yards which helps us get our back end involved in pursuit, when we would go thud or live in the past our scout team was so bad that we would almost always have no gain it loss of yard plays so our dbs weren’t getting good work. I am interested to hear how guys get good thud tempo sessions because I wouldn’t mind a little more physical periods in practice on occasion. I think part of having good thud tempo is not freaking out of a guy gets tackled. For us the biggest thing we are avoiding is guys twisting on the legs, slinging down and hitting low. If our defender goes in and theres a pop and somebody falls, thats football. We usually say to keep em up when someone goes down, but nobody comes unglued as long as its "clean" ie, no twisting, above the waist ect. Same principle we use in tackling drills. |
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Post by chi5hi on Aug 16, 2018 6:56:13 GMT -6
IMO you play the way you practice.
I don't want us to go THUD during a game, so we don't practice thudding.
If we hit you too hard...get off the field.
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humble
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Post by humble on Aug 16, 2018 7:02:41 GMT -6
We tackle really well. However, we also tackle really well in practice.
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Post by silkyice on Aug 16, 2018 7:35:57 GMT -6
IMO you play the way you practice. I don't want us to go THUD during a game, so we don't practice thudding. If we hit you too hard...get off the field. So you are live 100% of the time? |
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Post by dubber on Aug 16, 2018 7:38:31 GMT -6
We try to, especially versus scout. Our defense does a good job of not teeing off on the ball carrier, keeping him off the ground etc. Offense is another story.....our line reminds me of that famous line from Spaceballs..... I see your Schwartz is as big as mine? I’m surrounded by..... |
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Post by CS on Aug 16, 2018 8:24:49 GMT -6
I see your Schwartz is as big as mine? I’m surrounded by.....  |
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Post by dubber on Aug 16, 2018 8:28:11 GMT -6
Seriously though, this is the inherently nastiest group I’ve ever coached......we never work on the finish on our block progression because they are always to the whistle or the ground.
Can’t get them to turn it off....not sure I want to.....
Like I said, surrounded by @$$holes
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Post by hsrose on Aug 16, 2018 9:07:25 GMT -6
IMO you play the way you practice. I don't want us to go THUD during a game, so we don't practice thudding. If we hit you too hard...get off the field. Do you guys have legal limitations on contact? We've got a state limit of 2 sessions per week, 45 minutes per session of 'live contact' - essentially that simulate in-game actions where there is not a pre-determined winner. Under those limitations we have to go thud. |
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Post by chi5hi on Aug 16, 2018 12:46:09 GMT -6
IMO you play the way you practice. I don't want us to go THUD during a game, so we don't practice thudding. If we hit you too hard...get off the field. So you are live 100% of the time? During Team O and Team D we are. We figure...30 minutes of full contact, (with 5 seconds from snap to whistle), gives us the ability to run 120 full contact plays per day over a 3 day "full-out" week. We never run that many per day...but we get a LOT of contact and we only thud during indy's and such. |
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Post by coachcb on Aug 16, 2018 14:10:56 GMT -6
We'll back off and go THUD during groups sessions once we see the kids taking proper angles and tackling with proper form during tackling drills and INDY time. Before that point, we're live during group sessions but we're quick with the whistle. Honestly, we've seen more injuries to defenders from poor tackling form (dropping their head, diving at the ankles, tackling too high and pulling WWE crap..) than injuries to the ball carrier.
Generally speaking, we'll pull back to THUD halfway half-way through two-a-days.
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Post by blb on Aug 16, 2018 14:23:33 GMT -6
One of the biggest weaknesses in coaching I've seen is not teaching kids to finish - follow-thru in blocking or wrap-up and either hold BC or drive him sideways or back.
Got to teach second-effort and finish regardless of whether you're doing "Thud" or "Full," even in Individual, Group, Team.
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Post by agap on Aug 16, 2018 21:04:17 GMT -6
We can't go thud or live the first week of practice. We can the second week, but it's limited to I think 30 minutes per day.
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Post by dubber on Aug 17, 2018 2:04:28 GMT -6
One of the biggest weaknesses in coaching I've seen is not teaching kids to finish - follow-thru in blocking or wrap-up and either hold BC or drive him sideways or back. Got to teach second-effort and finish regardless of whether you're doing "Thud" or "Full," even in Individual, Group, Team. Agree with this....and, I think it is better taught in a non-full speed environment. You can teach those things without pads |
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Post by mrjvi on Aug 17, 2018 4:41:20 GMT -6
We absolutely go live more early in the season. After games start we have a very clear live time once per week-usually tuesday or wednesday. I agree with an earlier post that we need to see who can hit and where I am we need to teach physicality to the many somewhat "soft" kids we get. I have kept very physical kids out of drills at times or had them only go against kids who are also physical until the others catch up.
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