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Post by dblwngr on Sept 16, 2020 11:38:21 GMT -6
Oline and it's not even close.
I was an Oline coach and D-cord 21 years until finally this season we found a good Oline guy to free me up. This was the same case at both the schools I was at during that time. I'm sure you can imagine what my weekends have looked like over the years. Thank God my wife and kids think it's cool that I'm a coach!
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Post by dblwngr on Aug 25, 2020 15:35:53 GMT -6
Starting QB got an MIP and we suspended him a quarter and took his captain status for the year. MIP only got him suspended for a quarter??? A broken code of conduct policy with legal ramifications too? Our district would have stepped in and hammered our us on that ruling guaranteed.
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Post by dblwngr on Aug 6, 2020 12:49:43 GMT -6
Oregon moved all sports back until after late Dec. (3 shortened seasons) with fall sports in the spring. Looks like 7 reg season games with a "Bowl Game" at the end. I'm happy we didn't get axed completely but someone, probably more than one team is going to get screwed. Would hate to be the admin team that has to sort out five or six 7-0 teams for #1 and #2...... Or even worse, how bout the 6-1 team that makes it over the 7-0 team because their schedule was tougher. Especially with all the variables, you could have what looks to be a solid sched. to start with that could get you to the ship, then two teams on your sched. get a bunch of injuries or the rona and just like that your playing for 3rd or 4th. Thankful for an opportunity non the less. Any qualifying system usually already has to deal with this. Granted, during covid the tension will probably be much higher. Biggest difference is, less games to work with and they are more than likely going to make us play teams on a regional basis. We had a couple power house teams scheduled from the northern part of the state for non league and now I could see us having to schedule a team in a lower classification for non league because of location.
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Post by dblwngr on Aug 6, 2020 11:15:27 GMT -6
Oregon moved all sports back until after late Dec. (3 shortened seasons) with fall sports in the spring.
Looks like 7 reg season games with a "Bowl Game" at the end. I'm happy we didn't get axed completely but someone, probably more than one team is going to get screwed. Would hate to be the admin team that has to sort out five or six 7-0 teams for #1 and #2......
Or even worse, how bout the 6-1 team that makes it over the 7-0 team because their schedule was tougher. Especially with all the variables, you could have what looks to be a solid sched. to start with that could get you to the ship, then two teams on your sched. get a bunch of injuries or the rona and just like that your playing for 3rd or 4th.
Thankful for an opportunity non the less.
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Post by dblwngr on Jul 23, 2020 15:05:19 GMT -6
Oregon.
90% sure we don't play unless we have a delayed start.
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Post by dblwngr on Jul 17, 2020 17:50:23 GMT -6
Just to verify, the school these kids are at is in a part of the state that has had VERY few cases. Very rural to say the least.
There are a lot frustrated folks around here due to the fact that our area is being treated the same as the northern counties where the larger cities are.
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Post by dblwngr on Jul 17, 2020 9:01:31 GMT -6
Anyone see this happening to their programs?
We have a really good group of kids this season, almost everyone back from a team that played in the state championship game last year. Easily the most talented team I've been around in 22 years.
That being said, we have a D1 QB who doesn't want to miss his Sr yr and his brother that is a 3 star WR, both looking to jump state lines. We also have a RB and another WR who both have small college offers but needed this season to get a bit more exposier now looking to do the same.
Still waiting/hoping for a chance to play in our state but it's not looking good.
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Post by dblwngr on Jul 13, 2020 14:54:05 GMT -6
Well....I use a lot of stuff I've learned from Coach Cogan and Vass so I guess one could say I'm a hybrid with a bit of both. Combine both acronyms and come up with whatever you want, just be sure the stupid is in there somewhere or nobody would buy that it's me.
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Post by dblwngr on Jul 2, 2020 9:10:09 GMT -6
A lot of kids will just get their GED This is exactly what I'm hearing more and more in my community. Parents have already seen how the virtual learning thing went and they are not for it in my area, in fact many are furious about it. A local newspaper article came out a few weeks back reflecting on how things went with distance learning, lets just say it was a distasteful experiment. Not only did the below average students check out, many of the straight A scholar students did the same thing. Like many have said, these kids are not going to just sit home in front of a computer. They will lose interest and move on to making money working on a hemp/pot farm, fixing cars, flipping burgers or whatever.
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Post by dblwngr on Jun 23, 2020 15:38:31 GMT -6
So the latest model being thrown around in my area of Oregon is only playing teams in your region with a 6 game schedule and no playoffs. They would most likely have to combine some classifications 3a/4a 5a/6a. Again, this is just the latest chatter
I'm in Southern OR and there are very few cases in the east as well as the south, most cases are in the big city areas in the north, Portland/Eugene.
I have a question for you guys on here that are teachers. How does a family with a child or children, lets just say all grade school aged kids, manage distance learning if both parents work? They then have to make a choice to put food on the table, pay the bills, etc., or not work to be freed up to be childcare and a teacher? It seemed to work so so in the beginning but that's when a lot of people were working from home or laid off. Many folks have now gone back to work as things are opening up.
I've asked this question to many but nobody has an answer.......
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Post by dblwngr on Mar 20, 2020 11:34:17 GMT -6
So, how will the opinions in this thread change over the coming weeks? Could go either way. 1. "We're all so good at communicating from home with everyone, maybe our staff just continues with the new norm." OR 2. "We're all so tired of this communicating from home sh!t that we need to have meetings just for the sake of human interaction!"
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Post by dblwngr on Mar 5, 2020 17:22:04 GMT -6
We meet from four to six on Sundays. That give us all the time we need to break down film, game plan, script play, etc. during the weekend at a time that works best for us (some work Saturdays).
When we get to the meeting, it's all business. Thoughts on the last game, offensive game plan, defensive game plan, personnel changes due to injuries and any scheduling logistics that need discussing and go home.
If things were still like they were 20 years ago, coaching may not be for me and especially my wife and kids.
Get to the HC's house, have a beer, wait for everyone to get there, have another beer, tell stories, eat snacks, watch film, argue about personnel changes for a couple of hours, drink more beer, watch the NFL game on TV for a bit, tell more "back in the day" stories (which are cool but not time efficient)...and on and on.
I'm sure some of you guys know what I'm talking about.
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Post by dblwngr on Feb 19, 2020 16:40:09 GMT -6
If you want to grow as a coach and get better, spending time with Oline is the best recipe. It's really a coordinator job in itself and will make you a valuable find for the next job you get.
I've been an Oline coach and Dcord both for 20 years and I would contribute a ton of the successes we've had defensively to the time spent with the big fellas and the understanding/scheming of that part of the game.
Honestly, doing both is probably to much and I keep threatening to let someone else come in and take over the Oline so I can just concentration on defense. Problem is, there just aren't a lot of good Oline coaches floating around, at least in our area.
That being said, as much as I'd love to take a little off my plate, I couldn't imagine handing it over to someone lesser qualified just to free me up more.
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Post by dblwngr on Feb 12, 2020 17:07:45 GMT -6
Many year ago (I think I was 23-24) our season was over so a bunch of the staff decided to watch another local team play. Afterwards we went back to one of the coaches houses who's wife was gone for the weekend and began to drink.....rather heavily.
By the end of the night, we were all full of liquid courage and full speed ahead!
Here comes the bad part, which I still can't remember to this day- Apparently, me and our Dline coach had a disagreement while we were all in the coaches garage talking ball, hitting the punching bag and lifting a few weights. From what I've been told, we were so mad at each other that we were actually ready to full on brawl, hands up, doing the circle and everything before they broke us up! Pretty embarrassing!
That being said, he is now the District Superintendent for the school I coach at. Thank God we both woke up with no recollection of what happened that night or why! We both felt like fools as we did the walk of shame to the cars when our wife's picked us up that morning!
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Post by dblwngr on Feb 12, 2020 16:31:44 GMT -6
I feel ya coach, just got back from a clinic with a guy on the defensive side similar to your post. Here I am rolling into the clinic with 20 years experience and off the back of my first state championship appearance. I mean, I must be at the very least a "pretty good" coach, right?
His first question to everyone in the room, "how many of you guys are familiar with Saban's stuff?" Of course my hand goes up with a hand full of others as I think to myself, "Dam it, this is going to be so gratifying hearing this successful high level coach talk about doing the same chit we've been doing, I could probably teach this clinic myself!"
Then his next question, "How many of you guys are one high, probably running 3 match?" My hand goes up even higher this time....only to hear him say..."I don't know how you guys are still running that, teams have figured it out around here so this is what we are doing now." {continues with presentation}
Let me first say, his presentation was the real deal, he totally knew his stuff inside and out. The problem was, I just couldn't keep up, I needed a translator, I needed him to slow down! After 3 hours, I went back to our room cracked a beer with the boys and told them I hope we never have to defend an offense loaded with 5 star commits because I'm not even close to ready....very humbling! I guess hearing guys like that is what keep us working to get better!
Oh and by the way, Iowa St's Tight Front defense is no longer a thing either, old news.
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Post by dblwngr on Feb 5, 2020 17:27:07 GMT -6
I've seen your stuff on X&O's before, not even going to give em a plug??
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Post by dblwngr on Nov 25, 2019 15:09:32 GMT -6
Well, after 20 years I'm heading to my first big dance! More than anything I wanted to thank all you guys that have helped me out along the way. Everything I've had my hands on that has been good has come from a post, email, or phone call from guys on this site.
To those of you who frequent deep post season runs here are a couple question.
#1 Is it always this exhausting?? You would think that ridding high on an undefeated season it would be a cake walk but that has not been the case. I am physically and emotionally exhausted even though I try to stay in pretty good shape.
#2 What have you done to make this last week special? We want to keep things as normal as possible but is there anything you've done to make this week memorable? With Thanksgiving coming up, I'm doubting we will be doing a team dinner this week.
#3 Were you able to stop and smell the roses? Everyone keeps reminding me to take time to breath it all in. I'm usually pretty good about that kind of stuff when it comes to life events but football has been different. It seems like once we head up to the locker room from the field game night, my mind is already scrambling to our next opponent.
Thanks again fellas, and good luck to all of you still grinding this week!
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Post by dblwngr on Nov 19, 2019 16:53:03 GMT -6
Not sure what Arizona football looks like during the regular season but maybe it's just a playoff thing with a lot of high scoring teams in the brackets?
We only allowed an average of 12 points a game during the regular season and now as we head into the semi's, we've given up an average of 21 points a game.
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Post by dblwngr on Oct 23, 2019 13:04:01 GMT -6
Over the last 20 years I've been a part of both systems, 8 years of double wing and most recently 12 year of some form of spread. Been with 2 different schools over that period of time. Here are my takes in a nutshell.
1st school- Started coaching and got broke into the double wing from a group of really good coaches. We were a very small school and very successful compared to the previous years history of the school. Although we had fairy good success, we still had worse numbers than we thought we should have on a year to year basis. We would look on the soccer field everyday on our way to practice and say, "man look at all those stud athletes that would help us out, why don't any of them choose football, I mean the soccer program averages 2-3 wins a season?" The chatter in the hallways was, they don't even run plays with WR's how lame is that?"
Well, I didn't think much of it until a new HC finally came in a was a spread guy. Many of the good ol boys and alumni from the town thought he was crazy for not running the offense that got us to be relevant but the dude didn't care, even though he knew it was going to be rough for awhile. First season was horrible, sophomore QB, new system, zero wins, everyone talking about getting the new HC out of there! BUT, the next season, we had number, like 15 more kids than ever before. Long story short, those numbers held, even grew and we actually became very good by the 3rd year. The HC they wanted lynched was now a town hero.
2nd School (current gig)- Got to coach at my Alma-mater, super stoked to coach here and come into a spread scheme. First few years we were so so, won the games we should have, lost the ones we probably should have. In my 3rd year, we lost our starting QB week 1......and had absolutely nobody that was even close to being a serviceable backup, nobody even wanted the opportunity! It was so bad, I mean brutal, we lost games like I'd never lost games before, more than one by 70 points.
The next season, we swore that would never happen again, so we put in a double wing package early just for the goaline. And then, history basically repeated itself, we lost our QB in week 2 with and ACL again. That being said, we didn't have a serviceable back up once again. Knowing we would probably take more of the 70 point beatings, we decided to go full time double wing and just get through the season knowing we had fantastic group of freshman that would be sophomores next season and we would be good to go again. The good new was, we actually won a couple games and didn't ever get beat by 70. The bad news, kids were grumbling and hated the offense, our WR's were now playing TE or Wing and were never getting the ball. It was rough, kids, parents, I think even the mascot hated us. The thing that nobody understood was that we would have lost by 70 points and never even sniffed a win if we didn't do something.
Final Thoughts- My take on the original posters topic is this. If your going to be spread rather than some version of double wing, wing T, etc, etc, then you better have a plan. Whether you are spread to throw or spread to pass, you better have another QB that can step in, even if you have to tweek what you do a little bit. Also, I would recommend having a package of something not spread. For us, it has been a small I-formation package with power/counter/toss/FB wedge and 2-3 play action passes. We've been very good the last couple years and our I-form package has just been handy whether it be in bad weather, goaline, 4th and short, or even to get a one on one match up on the outside knowing we would get a loaded box.
Sorry for the long rant, lots of coffee and felt the need to make a post rather than do work at my job.
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Post by dblwngr on Oct 22, 2019 21:54:50 GMT -6
Homecoming.....whatever....... I've devoted most of my hatred to "picture day" that always seems to land during the week of our toughest opponent. Ah man you gotta get this thing done before the season starts, thats the way to do it. Uniforms are clean, players are healthy, no need to use up time waiting for picture day Every school in this area does it the same way. All fall sports in one day after school. Football usually gets to go first but it still ends up being a day of grab a$$ and low focus
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Post by dblwngr on Oct 22, 2019 16:02:41 GMT -6
Homecoming.....whatever.......
I've devoted most of my hatred to "picture day" that always seems to land during the week of our toughest opponent.
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Post by dblwngr on Oct 22, 2019 12:03:18 GMT -6
I'm the Oline coach as well as the DB coach and defensive coordinator. If there was someone that we could trust with the Oline I would have passed the torch 20 years ago just to lighten up my load, especially with film on the weekends!
Can't complain because I feel being and Oline coach has made me a better DC. It's just a ton of work, almost like having two coordinator positions.
I'm actually curious if other areas of the country struggle to find good Oline coaches too?
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Post by dblwngr on Oct 18, 2019 11:18:33 GMT -6
This is the first year we've gone with shells other than Tuesdays and some weeks when we're banged up, we go shells all week.
I thought our HC was crazy when he told the staff about going with shells but we're 6-0 and everything seems to be as normal as most other years so maybe it's not as bad of an idea as I thought!
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Post by dblwngr on Jul 12, 2019 13:18:36 GMT -6
I'm a bit confused? We go to a team camp but for us that means going to a camp with multiple teams and competing against each other normally in June or July.
We have never started football practice on the road hauling our stuff somewhere, especially sleds, sounds like a pain in the a$$!
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Post by dblwngr on Apr 30, 2019 13:49:12 GMT -6
Going in for the first time not adding anything new what so F'n ever!
Just going to polish the things that made us successful last year and cut the cord on things that didn't.
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Post by dblwngr on Jan 23, 2019 14:52:34 GMT -6
Always good to get together for clinics, off season meetings etc. But I would also add to make sure and have a get together or two that involves the coaches and their families.
We've had a HC the last few years that is big on family and I can definitely say, when you include the wife n kids in your passion, they will be your biggest supporters, even during the long weekends of film and meetings. In my younger years I was with a staff that was all about ditching the wife n kids so we could party our a$$'s off. My wife was not the biggest fan of me coaching during those years.....
I feel like many of the guys on staff are coming back every years because of the atmosphere that welcomes their families.
I guess I really didn't answer your question about staff development as much as staff retention.
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Post by dblwngr on Jan 17, 2019 14:48:40 GMT -6
No separation in OR
Been taking a healthy dose of whoopn's from them the last 20 years.....even when we have solid teams.
Even better, we get to here about how amazing their program is (one team inparticular) compared to ours while they have 4 all league kids on their team that actually live in our district.
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Post by dblwngr on Dec 18, 2018 12:02:04 GMT -6
"Oh if the jr high just ran our sharknado offense we could beat our rival." Got any links or DVD sets of this cutting edge system? It may be a little out dated but I'd be willing to trade our inovative, rpo, half a$$ huddle, Facemelter collection.
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Post by dblwngr on Dec 13, 2018 14:38:00 GMT -6
I agree with technique 1st and foremost.
More than anything, tackling technique. As our Dcord, I usually schedule a day to go to the middle school and take over their defensive practice for tackling progression. I like the idea of having the coaches see it in action as well as having a chance to connect with the kids/coaches and let them see my face.
I couldn't care less about the scheme they run. I've seen lots of local coaches drive their schemes down the middle school coaches throat only to change what they are doing by the time those kids get to the high school.
On the offensive side, we give the coaches a handful of your base plays along with an open door to any questions that they may have as the season goes on.
Like the coach in the above post mentioned, it's much more important that the kids have fun and have a good experience. If not, we'll lose them to soccer, chess club, video games at home, or they'll just be another one of the many kids we see walking through the halls that SHOULD be playing but aren't for what ever reason.
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Post by dblwngr on Dec 3, 2018 17:36:44 GMT -6
Not sure how to vote on this one.
We have never once talked about this with our kids, ever. Yet they all have it in their heads that it's what you do.
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