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Post by brettdj on Nov 17, 2023 6:34:41 GMT -6
If you are teaching rules/penalties, try to get the local officiating association to explain these. They will give you the rule and how it is officiated. Such as holding needs 3 elements a grab, a restriction and be near the ball carrier.
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Post by brettdj on Nov 8, 2023 8:24:20 GMT -6
We need a penalty for ballcarriers using their head as a weapon. Sheer hypocrisy that they call helmet to helmet on the defense for incidental contact that is often caused by the receiver lowering his head. I have called it on the ballcarrier. I have seen it called on the ball carrier in NCAA D1.
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Post by brettdj on Oct 23, 2023 5:53:56 GMT -6
The rules can be changed. But NFHS likes to keep things even. They might promote that as their philosophy... but it's not really true: Ex. 1 Offense taking a safety as time runs out with multiple holding calls- Only the offense can benefit (D choices- take result of play or take the penalty... both result in a safety and game over). Ex. 2 PAT- Only the offense may score. Ex. 3+ I am starting to see a heavy imbalance on what defense is allowed to do on passing plays vs. what offense is allowed to do. We were called multiple times for illegal contact on a receiver (prior to the pass being thrown), yet receivers (and even linemen) blocking downfield on a pass downfield was never called. This could be specific to ND because we have several "unique" rules interpretations as dictated by the state. Even the numbering requirement isn't really "even". Only offense has to change shirts to change positions. Our starting right corner was a D-tackle the first 3 weeks. He wore #22 all season... which was good for us, I guess because six other guys had two jersey numbers all year. (After having coached several years in 8 man where there are no numbering requirements AND after having seen eligible numbers in ineligible positions catch downfield passes with no penalty call this year, I honestly think officials would pay more attention to positioning at the snap if there were no numbering requirements. Too much gets assumed right now. I also know that will never happen... remember the A-11?) NFHS also does not like exceptions to the rules. They have some but really try to limit. Ex1- Would become an exception to the rule Ex2- They deem the offence earned a chance to score an extra point. The defense allowed this opportunity by giving up a touchdown. Ex3. Illegal contact is really not an NFHS rule, blocking downfield is a missed call by the officials. Numbering requirement is to help the defense know eligible receivers. I am sorry that your officials miss this call for illegal touching/OPI.
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Post by brettdj on Oct 20, 2023 4:23:30 GMT -6
It is encroachment and it is a dead ball foul. So no play actually happened. Well true. We all understand that. We are saying that the rule needs changing. Not that they enforced the rule incorrectly. The rules can be changed. But NFHS likes to keep things even. Their philosophy is probably that encroachment is like a false start by the defense. False start kills the play, so should encroachment. But talk to your state rules interpreter. He is the one that submits rule changes and votes for them.
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Post by brettdj on Oct 19, 2023 6:07:07 GMT -6
We lined up to kick a game winning extra point in a double overtime game earlier this year. We drill it twice and both times the officials say they were lined up offsides and we re-kick. On the third try their guy gets a running start and is clearly offsides and blocks it. No Flag. We end up losing in the third OT by a point. Send the film to the state association. They get back to us and say yeah we got screwed there but nothing that they can do. Oh another point, the rule where you can't decline an offsides on a made extra point is such a ridiculous rule. It is encroachment and it is a dead ball foul. So no play actually happened.
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Post by brettdj on Oct 16, 2023 6:11:49 GMT -6
I think sometimes young or inexperienced officials feel that they need to call something sometime or they aren't doing their job rather than just administering the game as it happens. Is there pressure to make this particular call (interception) and signal quickly? I don't recall seeing it in a long time at any level, so maybe the mechanic has changed. When change of possession occurs during a live ball, offensive restrictions instantly apply to team B and defensive ones to team A. But I don't recall seeing officials in recent years point the arm at the instant an interception occurs, the way they used to; seems they now save it for dead ball to indicate "new series" only. If there is pressure to signal quickly, then it's very understandable that the call on the spot be a preliminary one that may be overruled. The current mechanic is to signal at the end of the down(dead ball).
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Post by brettdj on Oct 16, 2023 6:10:07 GMT -6
I didn't mean to make this into a referendum on officiating because it IS a tough job - especially Football and in particular kicking plays - and the shortage is a very real thing at least in my state. So this will be my last comment. As I posted earlier I refereed-umpired myself. The instructor I had in my college Officiating class went on to become NFL white hat, so I could say I was fairly well-trained. The biggest thing that bugged me was when officials didn't hustle, were out of position. That told me that maybe they weren't into this game, were being lazy. Nothing to hurt us, not being biased, but to me that was bad officiating and unfair to the players. My training was similar. My high school officiating trainer is a current NFL white hat. My first focus for training of new officials is positioning(mechanics). If they are not in the right spot, they can't be sure of the right call.
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Post by brettdj on Oct 11, 2023 5:48:03 GMT -6
What I didn't like was officials who called stuff that DIDN'T happen (couldn't see on film) as if they were making things up or materially affect the play (like Holding on opposite side of field from where play was run for ex.). Exactly!!! I've been saying this for years. I don't care if they miss a call that could have been made. I get steamed when they make a call based on circumstantial evidence (ex. kid makes a great, legal block, ref turns, sees blocked kid falling forwards because he turned to the ball carrier as he was being knocked down, ref calls clip, I drink three more tequilas later that evening.) When training officials, I tell them over and over. It is okay to miss a call. But it is really bad to call something that isn't there. Out group is getting better because of this, but there are still a few that keep calling things. Even when shown the film each week.
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Post by brettdj on Oct 10, 2023 13:06:57 GMT -6
I was on a crew that screwed an IW up recently. Not quite this play, but a punt.
When the whistle is blown, if the ball is loose then no choice replay down. If in possession, team with possession gets to choose ball at that location or replay the down.
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Post by brettdj on Feb 14, 2023 6:37:53 GMT -6
Maybe this isn't true in HS- but with aiding the runner apparently not a penalty anymore, I don't know why someone hasn't come up with a short yardage package of a Hback or sturdy QB under center with some OL or DL directly behind them in the backfield to basically just shove them forward 2-3 yards. Heck, you could probably get a few 1st downs out of it by just running sneak. I once did that in a JV game, just ran a play we called Wyoming where the Center snaps it and he and the QB are the only two offensive people to move. Gained 15 yards on 3 plays. High School still contains the wording of pushing the ball carrier is illegal. NCAA and NFL removed pushing several years ago. NCAA and NFHS still contain grasp, pull or lift the runner as a foul.
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Post by brettdj on Jan 3, 2023 8:15:55 GMT -6
No it is not a horse collar tackle. It must be the nameplate of the jersey or inside the shoulder pad collar. The hood or long hair does not meet the rule. I will wager that doesn't stop it from getting called as horse collar though. In my games it will not be called. We train our associating explicitly about hoodies and the rule. It won't stop coaches from wanting it called if it is their player being tackled.
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Post by brettdj on Jan 3, 2023 6:58:19 GMT -6
If a defender grabs a jit by the hood for a tackle, is it hood collar tackling or no? No it is not a horse collar tackle. It must be the nameplate of the jersey or inside the shoulder pad collar. The hood or long hair does not meet the rule.
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Post by brettdj on Dec 30, 2022 5:54:48 GMT -6
If you are not able to get a coaching spot, try officiating. You will learn the rules of the game (in more detail than most coaches understand.) You will meet coaches in your area to network for coaching positions. Officials talk and watch a lot of football.
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Post by brettdj on Nov 21, 2022 10:27:52 GMT -6
There’s always 2 sides to a story and typically the truth is somewhere down the middle. I flat out don’t trust officials on anything….NEVER TAKE A KNEE ON 4th DOWN…EVER…EVER!!! Agreed. There's a lot of different things you can do in that situation. Heck, punt it out of bounds. I don't trust coaches. I hear too many. "They let us do this last week." "He wore that visor every game"
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Post by brettdj on Nov 14, 2022 6:23:09 GMT -6
I am an official, will be working 3rd round (State quarterfinals) game this week.
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Post by brettdj on Nov 8, 2022 8:33:31 GMT -6
Rule 7 Section 1 Art 6 b. Following the ready for play and after the snapper has placed his hand(s) on the ball, encroachment occurs if: b. A defensive player makes contact with the ball prior to the end of the snap
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Post by brettdj on Oct 5, 2022 13:22:39 GMT -6
How are the officials gonna call to brothers from different schools calling each other the N word? My district that is an ejection from that game and player will miss at least 1 more game, even if on the same team. Twice and the player is dismissed from all sports in high school.
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