|
Post by morris on Mar 5, 2008 6:21:53 GMT -6
One upside to such a place is you can take some chances you might not at others. Some people go to jobs like that as steping stones. They try to make a name for themselves on a side of the ball. I will say it is hard ot coach in a place you do not get much support at
|
|
|
Post by morris on Mar 3, 2008 8:50:07 GMT -6
Morris, Doesn't "shorten the game" mean let the clock run and use it to your advantage by running the ball throwing shorter pass routes and completing them and staying in bounds? (rhetorical question) If it is so, then the issue of 48 miunutes has been addressed thoroughly. coachorr, I never said "shorten the game". It is true what I was talking about would shorten the game but it was some what of a different approach. I was talking about doing that on DEFENSE not on offense. My opponent is not going to let the play clock run down. Nor is he going to try to stay in bounds or throw short passes. If I can force him to run the ball and throw short by scheme I can make him eat clock. In Education of a Coach there is a section talking about Super Bowl 25. The plan the whole weak was if Thomas rushes for 125+ yrds the Giants would win. They did not feel like they coudl match up with the Bills in the passing game nor keep up with the scoring if allowed to do so. Most posters were addressing how they would handle being outmatched from an offensive POV with a few comments about special teams and defense. dave, I think what they mean by wear out an opponent is by doing the opposite of most people's think in that you turn it into a high possession game. Get out of bound as much as you can. Snap the ball as fast as you can. The idea being you are in better shape and you can "run" them off the field. Now that is not a one game fix. You have to play that way from the day one. I think this goes to the Shilo Christian game. Shilo could not stop the other team's RB.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Feb 28, 2008 21:29:33 GMT -6
The thing I think is a little strange is even is taking an offensive approach to this. The original post said nothing about offense or defense. I guess we are all going off the thought we can not prevent the other team from scoring. Now there si a ton of factors here but the constant is time. There is only so much time in a game. I am not a big fan of the moral victory thing but sometimes with a program that is what you are shooting for a little. If the game plan does not work out in your favor you want it to be close enough your guys feel like they can "play" with the other team.
If I was outmatched playing a passing team I would drop a ton an dmake them run the play. The main thing is stress not giving up big plays. A running play runs something like 40 sec off the clock. When outmatched make them run the ball and do your best to stop the run. It eats clock. By defense you can force a team to do something else. If they throw the ball a ton dropping 8 will get them to run it.
The other thing is when you scout you have to look for details that are not just typical (formation and such). My first years coaching there was a team with a QB with a great arm. That QB woudl force th ball into spots and wait out a throw instead of running. I made it very clear to my team the QB was going to make some throws that wil make you shake your head. I also made sure my defense knew that Qb was goign to force the ball andmake mistakes. The Qb tried to take too much on. they are kids and they have personalities. Coach against the personality. I also think you have to out scheme the other team at times. We have all been out coached at sometime and we have all out coached a guy. the best make mistakes too.
48 minutes is not enough time for the best team to win just the team that plays th ebest to win
|
|
|
Post by morris on Mar 27, 2008 21:26:32 GMT -6
We have 70-80 kids. Now when the season rolls around we will have 50 or so. Some of these kids have never had any contact. The helmets are ridell and schutt. We have a few revolutions I think also. Most of the shoulder pads are hand me downs from the HS. the other issue of course is some of the helmets are youth and some are adult.
We had out the stuff in the spring and then when we are done we bag it and tag it. When they come back after the summer they just grab their bag.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Mar 27, 2008 17:54:09 GMT -6
I HATE handing out equipment. We did it today and I am convinced there has to be a better/faster way. Right now we are just giving out uppers. this is how we did it
One coach would fit helmits and the other would do the shoulder pads. We had the helmits split up by size and the shoulder pads were done some what the same way. The shoulder pads were stored on stands.
I believe there has to be a better way to sort and hand out stuff. I almost wonder if it would not be better to measure the kids and use that as a starting point. It is so much crap of try this or that.
So any ideas or suggestions I would love to hear it.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Feb 5, 2008 10:07:44 GMT -6
KY is in the process of going complete online. They split the cost among the schools.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Mar 31, 2008 5:26:01 GMT -6
I think that access, opportunity, and societal expectations have a lot more to do with it than DNA. If blacks are such better athletes, where are all of the black hockey, baseball, and tennis players, golfers, swimmers, gymnasts, etc, etc...? I coach at a racially diverse, low income high school and the BEST male athlete in the school, heck, in the entire conference, is a white kid. On a side note of the guys at the combine they were talking about only played his SR in HS because he was playing hockey and he was African Amercian. I am not around schools with hockey, lacross or a number of other sports mentioned or not. I think part of the divide might be the sports in which African American have access to and play in. Where some very good atheltes from other ethnic backgrounds might be spaced among a number of different sports the better African American athletes tend to stick to small group of sports such as basketball and football. They might later run track but I feel that is often an off shoot of the other sports. One reason for this might be more role models of their ethic background in a certain sport. In the other sports named there is a much smaller group playing them (look at golf, tennis, swimming, etc). When such a large group of one ethnic groups plays in such a smaller amoutn of sports I think it might skew the numbers some.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Jan 30, 2008 17:03:38 GMT -6
Hill Larry Us I believe is what it means
Where things get intresting I believe is when peopel do nto understand who they are. We are have a perception of the type of person we are but that does not make it true. Some peopel get into coaching and think they are a certain type of coach and honestly they are a completely different type. Even worse they try to force themselves into a mold because they want to be "like" so and so or they want to pattern themselves after so and so.
LeVall Edards once said that he was smart enough to know there is more than one right way to do things. You are who you are no matter if you like, or know it.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Jan 23, 2008 16:55:45 GMT -6
IMO feeder programs should run what the varsity runs. Everything? Obviously not. But the base should be the same, same as the terminology. It is for the benefit of the program and the kids. There is no point in running anything different. So what if the HS can not even run the scheme the correct way? These threads seem to always go off the assumption that the HS staff knows what they are doing. We have all coached against teams that we felt the staff on the other sideline could not coach themselves out of a paper bag. Now imagine being their feeder system and being told to run this. How about a HS that runs a ton of grab bag stuff? What about a HS that makes things overly complex? What about a HS that runs a complex scheme? How many people have went around and asked other coaches what their feeder program runs? Some can give you answers so can not. I know the times I have asked the question I get all sorts of different responses. I know some very successful HS coaches that have never coached at a lower level so they do not know how to go about developing the system fo rthat age group. I completely agree if the HS has a well put together structure and plan then feeder program would buy in. If it is just here you go run this or just setting down to talk scheme it is not going to work as well if at all.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Dec 10, 2007 18:34:57 GMT -6
Changing from a Power I to a spread QB centered run game. Trying to get as much information as I can about it.
We are also looking at refining everything from practice to skill sets to playcalling.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Feb 5, 2008 9:58:44 GMT -6
Trash talking is part of the NFL. When SF beat the Cowboys with the catch a Cowboy said "You just beat America's team" which Montana replied " You can watch the game with rest of America at home"
Its mind games and lets face it there is a ton of pride on that field. I think this game will be used to help people focus. We finished 11-0 and I told our player before our last game you will always remember this game for 1 of 2 reasons. Same thing for the Pats game. The Giants played with a chip on their shoulders and you could tell they were going to take respect.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Nov 16, 2007 21:31:07 GMT -6
|
|
|
Post by morris on Nov 14, 2007 17:59:32 GMT -6
that is something we started doign this year with our MS team. We went 2 platoon and had a KO and KOR teams with as little crossover as we could.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Nov 14, 2007 9:09:09 GMT -6
I start recruiting from the 1st day of school to the last. I only get kids for 9 weeks and then I get a new group. So any time I see kids or have kids in class I start talking to them. I try to get as many of the "smart" kids as I can. I also go to basketball games to see how kids move and the such. Winning helps a lot too.
I do like the flag tournie thing.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Jan 27, 2008 9:15:08 GMT -6
Look in the Passing section. There is 1 guy here that runs it in NJ and a number of others that either still do or have.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Dec 11, 2007 16:10:42 GMT -6
I sorta wondered the same thing when the coach at Hoover got in trouble this year. If something like that happened here in KY the guy woudl be gone period and not recieve anything like the deal he did.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Feb 12, 2008 21:07:35 GMT -6
The kickoff "sideline surprise" we practice though we have never run it. I am assuming it is like a polecat formation.
The fieldgoal thing you have to watch and make sure you explain. You can get into this where you get flagged for simulating the snap or drawing the defense offside. Yes it is the intent and people do it all the time but rules can be enforced funny.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Mar 13, 2008 5:15:45 GMT -6
other -KY
|
|
|
Post by morris on Dec 18, 2007 8:26:09 GMT -6
I am a little surprised no one has brought up the fact that he will not be coaching in the Bowl game. I know he is not the first person to do this but it just seems wrong.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Mar 10, 2008 10:46:34 GMT -6
Northern KY MS OC and Humanities Teacher (Current Vocational Studies and Drama varies per 9 weeks) 5 classes out of 6 period day
|
|
|
Post by morris on Oct 23, 2007 19:08:56 GMT -6
You could run a shuffle sally play. Would nto be much different then the shuffle reverse you use other than it hits inside the tackle instead of outside.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Dec 20, 2007 15:57:39 GMT -6
No more than the normal bull in the ring. What happens to a coach when somethign happens anytime you run Bull in the Ring or similar type drills? Shed drills have the same effect. Certain blocking drills woudl work just as well.
What type of legal ramifications are we going to get if one of our players are making sexual comments to a female manager?
|
|
|
Post by morris on Dec 20, 2007 15:43:49 GMT -6
You cover a pretty broad spectrum with those possible problems; I bet if we took a real hard look at ourselves we might find some hypocracies. I know some exist with myself, for example: I've had quite a few players that I know smoke pot consistently, not that they or anyone else told me but I'm not blind and I can tell. That being written we're not kicking them off the team for it. Honestly, I think that if we kicked off every player who drank or smoked on the weekend we'd lose too many kids; and I don't think that is a benefit to them or us. However, you screw around on the bus, or at school, then there will be hell to pay. And I can't even picture a player talking back to a coach and sticking around. Maybe we're just picking and choosing our battles, or maybe our priorities are out of whack. I do, however, think whatever your rules and consequences are you stick by them, for everyone. And you should have no problem cutting anyone who is a detrement to the team. Now I am going off the assumption this is HS. Another thing that we have to be clear about is that a student/player must be caught. Now I do not care what my fellow coaches did when they were in HS or whoever else. Drinking under the age of 21 is illegal and if our layer is caught he is gone. Past a moving violation we will dismiss a player any year for illegal behavior and there is NO question when it comes to drugs in any way shape or form. If drugs, underage drinking, smoking or smokeless tobacco (remember most of our players will be underage for these things) is more importnat to a kid then playing football then that is their choice. I am by far no saint but I also do not want kids doing the same stupid stuff I did. We make this all veyr very clear up front with contracts. They know.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Dec 20, 2007 15:13:46 GMT -6
Smoking drink and drugs: gone period All the other stuff we first handle with Bull in the Ring. Now we might run the kid first or run everyone first to get the tempers up but in the end Bull in the Ring is our answer. We will also set a kid and in the end remove a player from the team. A ton fo this stuff if we findout about it we will take care of. We are not going to let our players act like fools. THey reflect on us and that is not the image we are going to allow to happen.
|
|
|
Pryor
Mar 19, 2008 11:30:32 GMT -6
Post by morris on Mar 19, 2008 11:30:32 GMT -6
Does anyone know anything but the offense he played in? We looked at his numbers today an dit came out to him throwing about 7 passes a game. He also rushed for close to 2000 yrds
|
|
|
Post by morris on Feb 4, 2008 9:01:44 GMT -6
What we do is simple and based off of Billeck's book (sp?). About 50% of your calls are 1st down calls and it breaks down the types of call be percentages. We just run through what would equal about a half's worth of those. So if we average 40 plays a game we are going to go 20 plays with 10 being 1st and 10, 1 being 1st and long (15+) and so on. We also make sure we go over specials like last play of the game, backed up and the such. We do this so our kids do not freak and they know what to expect in general.
We use this to also get our kids on the same page as use as far as a tagert we are going for. 4+ on 1st downs and the such. It also allows you to focus one certain areas while in practice. If the DC knows what plays we are running then he knows what areas to watch during the play. It allows you to isolate areas. We use to help teach also as a type of game. If you are just running 7 on 7 it is no big deal but if you put a down and distance then you have a winner or a loser.
I am interested in why people feel that series based offenses do not need to do this. While not everyone runs a series system like a wing t I would think everyone has a progression they use when calling plays.
|
|
|
Post by morris on Jan 31, 2008 15:14:50 GMT -6
Over playbook does/will have over 20 plays yet we do not install of it. The plays are there to adjust to talent and other factors through the year(s).
Now a question I have is if when peopel look at their 10 passes are they including tags or their 5 runs are they concepts or true runs. What I mean is does IZ count as a run play or does IZ to the TB count as 1 and IZ to the QB 2nd.
We only have 5 runs plays or so but each of those 5 plays can be run by a number of different players from a number of looks. We also do not throw the ball a ton currently so our passign game would be a little different. I would be interested to see someone's 10 pass plays that include the quick game with each quick concept taking up a slot.
I do like the concept of this thread though. I know in the past we have put in a number of plays and just never used them. I just get ticked at myself for even wasting time putting in some of the stuff we never use.
I am interested in the selection process people are using to determine what they select. What is everyone's thought process as they put it together?
|
|
|
Post by morris on Mar 3, 2008 19:26:47 GMT -6
Coaches: Athletic fund we get gate and concession (MS program) Bingo/boosters pays for most of our stuff a few fund raisers
|
|
|
Post by morris on Nov 18, 2007 21:06:21 GMT -6
I agree that both have their place. One of the things Demeo stress is that the "dive" back in his system drives for 5. He feels that even if it is a bad read the RB should get 5 or so yards. My point mainly was that there is of course more than one type of gun option and not all of them are cross type action.
I got a chance to go to the WVU game sat and it was interestign watching the WVU in person
|
|
|
Post by morris on Nov 18, 2007 17:37:46 GMT -6
Alittle off topic but A&M runs one type gun option as opposed ot the Demeo version in which the dive back, Q and pitch all go to the same side. The play will sometimes cut back to the opposite A gap but it is not the gun zone read option like Utah did and A&M does now.
For use it allows us to be completely balanced presnap. I do agree that the pistol is a formation and not a true offense. what gets me about the pistol and even some of the gun option stuff is flag football teams have been running the stuff for years. we use to call it the Sigma Chi offense because they had run it for years but they use to run the crazy option 15 or more years ago.
|
|