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Post by morris on Jan 31, 2008 9:14:47 GMT -6
The way you describe your cut block I can see as fine. When you get into teams that use the "shoeshine" block one example or a version where contact is between the waist and knee.
The issue we run into is with gun teams and when the ball leaves the FBZ. I could be wrong but I was under the impression that cut blocks, clips and the such were legal in the FBZ as long as the ball remained in the FBZ but once it left the zone the FBZ disappeared.
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Post by morris on Jan 30, 2008 19:19:17 GMT -6
Well cut blocking is legal within certain guidelines. This also comes down to league/conference/states in some cases. I know some crews will allow cut blocks while in the gun and some will not.
now I have to disagree a little saying a cut block is perfectly safe. anything an offense or a defense is taught to do yet is not allowed to do to their own players in practice is not exactly safe. DW guys cut the snot out of people yet I have not heard one of them say they cut in practice without protection. While yes it is the NFL there is a reason why people hated Alex Gibbs Oline is because the cut on the backside. It is legal.
Now the chop block is something people do screwup in that it is legal to engage low first then hit high but not the other way around I believe. Most places it does not matter because they are going to call it either way no matter what.
Fair catch is something players screw up. Some do not realize when the ball hits the ground the fair catch is off.
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Post by morris on Jan 30, 2008 9:12:08 GMT -6
The 12 in a huddle thing I believe is being called due to the whole "Wrong ball" rule about deceit and such. They call it to prevent the players from breaking the huddle with 12 and then one of the guys running off. Teams get use to it and then 2 guys run toward the sideline and he is uncovered. They tend to call it illegal parcipation (not sure if there is a rule by that name or not)
The other stuff I see a good deal. What is interesting is when you start getting the clip, block in the back, block below the waist deal. Where all are very different calls but most peope do not know the difference.
Taking the step further on the receiver. He also has to have both a legal number and linedup correctly. I believe you also must have 5 players with 50-79 unless in a scrimage kick formation.
Where did you get a copy of the rulebook? I would love to get a hardcopy
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Post by morris on Mar 13, 2008 5:22:17 GMT -6
We use 1-2-3. 1-inside shade 2- head up 3- outside shade gap- between players.
As a coach you need to know the Bum Phillips stuff just so you can understand but once you start getting to the edge of defense numbers start getting funny. We use the above because it is very simple.
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Post by morris on Feb 18, 2008 18:50:40 GMT -6
Keep in mind my team is MS and we play by HS Fed rules with no changes.
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Post by morris on Feb 14, 2008 16:57:20 GMT -6
We had a RB this past year that scored 4 times on his first 5 carries. He also scored on the first carry of the game something like 3 games in a row. He was also a 7th grader playing on an 8th grade team. Now our HC is the DC so he does not like giving up points. He subs people in to call off the dogs. The problem is our scheme. We have to get way out of our scheme to keep it from being very ugly sometimes.
I try to let my starters play a half. 3rd quater is whole sale subs and 4th is 7th graders playing against the other team's 8th. We had a number of times our 7th graders played more time then the 8th. I was just wondering what people thought about calling the dogs off on D since you can cause just as much problems if nto more than keeping the stud RB in.
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Post by morris on Feb 14, 2008 9:34:00 GMT -6
I wonder at what point do you guys call of the dogs on defense? I watched some youth season videos which the defense was still blitzing up by 30. Now we play an extremely pressure package defense so we have to get creative when calling off the dogs.
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