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Post by fshamrock on Jan 29, 2019 9:55:25 GMT -6
twitter world has created a bunch of guys who can rattle off 70 ways to play quarters but they can't coach one of them, throw them out there to some trash cans and 4 teenagers they'd stomp around pounding a monster energy drink and say "okay brah you are MOD on #2 unless he intro's the valcitrator" then they'd stomp off again and pound another monster with the kids wondering wth is going on, then when they blow the coverage it's "brah I just don't have the chess pieces I need brah"
that's okay though, hardly effective but at least harmless, the culture stuff is alarming to me. Too many guys fancying themselves the saviors of mankind, a guy with that big of a hero complex can justify anything. (I swear I wasn't doing anything wrong just changing that young ladies culture in the backseat of my Plymouth)
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 28, 2019 14:52:00 GMT -6
There's a practical reason for publicizing those D.3 "signings". In an area that has school choice kids and parents pay attention to how many guys get placed in college. If there's a perception that your kids aren't moving on you might be asked to move on. BTW, I played D.3. They didn't have signing ceremonies then but there was an article in the paper that I and a teammate had "signed". Hell, the only thing that I signed was the deposit check. The HC of the school I went to didn't know I had chosen to go there until I showed up for practice. Turns out the DC/wrestling coach had recruited me entirely on his own. holy crap that's hilarious almost my exact situation I get "recruited" by the wrestling coach because he was friends with my Dline coach in high school guy calls me once and says "hey man you can go to school here for 800 dollars a year" now that 800 bucks was the number you got to after considering my max pell grant for being po' and a federal stafford loan for 15k, but at 18 I wasn't worried about that and there was nobody around to tell me different so I jump all over it and proceed roll around my high school campus like I'm billy blue chip heading to fame and glory I shows up for the first days of practice and nobody has ever heard of me that coaches football, equipment handout was exactly like I did it for 7th graders back in the day, gimmie your name so I can write it on this clipboard then go grab you some stuff from these piles. Oh those shoulder pads don't fit? Just tie 'em up real tight man cuz we don't just have 'em laying all over. It was amazing, like I literally could have been some dude from a local town just roll into the field house at the right time and I'd have been allowed to practice that day. Didn't really seem like the coaches knew much about anybody else either, there were clearly a couple of guys that were local to that school they might have heard of, but the rest of us were just there to fill the coffers. I was immediately a scout offensive lineman which I worked really hard at until this senior nose who must have been 26 at the time got pissed that the scout center was working hard so he tore off the kids helmet and hit him over the head with it, kids was out cold and we all just moved the drill over and went again, so I took it pretty easy after that not even gonna lie. I was later moved to scout TE because I wasn't really much of a tackle at 235 and that was even more awesome because if I caught a pass, the defensive coordinator would get pissed and we'd run the play again strictly so I could get killed, if I pulled up short on the route I got screamed at......wow...I think the last straw was during a water break when we ran over to the old school cow thing from the hose and while we were over there the o-line coach pulled out his wang and relieved himself on the ground 3ft away from us I happened to run into the wrestling dude who "recruited" me at the chow hall (whoa that food was bad) and he's like "oh holy crap your _______ the kid coach _________ told me about, holy chit man I didn't know you actually came here, everything going okay?" and I was like "yeah man I don't think I'm gonna come back next year" and he was pretty much said ya nobody does I know that all of that probably isn't typical of small college football, there have to be some programs who do it right, just not that one
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 25, 2019 12:54:28 GMT -6
we had a kid that was tough as hell but not real big start at DT for us, signed with a D3 or NAIA place up in Minnesota, so we are a special kind of dumb so we allow each kid who signs to actually say something during the ceremony
this kid, who as far as we knew was a decent hard working kid, never complained, goes into a tirade thanking his "haters" who didn't think he could ever make it for motivating him to achieve greatness, he proceeds to call out by name coaches on our staff who told him he was too small. It was crazy and made us look really bad, particularly since none of the coaches he mentioned had ever had anything but nice things to say to him....I mean we loved the kid.
Anyway, he had in his head that we all doubted him, somehow we showed that by starting him all year......kids are so dumb sometimes it's painful
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 25, 2019 8:20:08 GMT -6
I think clinics are awesome and college visits are fantastic, but the biggest things I've ever seen a staff do to improve is the take time together to self scout and go over issues from the previous season, then try to implement some changes, I was on a staff that was fortunate enough to take college visits for a week every spring, we would spend all day in meetings and at practice, but the most valuable thing we did there was game breakdowns of our previous season. Every assistant was assigned a number of games to watch and fill out a google doc on it questions were specific to our offense, how they lined up to us, what gave us problems, what we did well....that kind of thing. We had a copy of our game plan for the that game ready as well. Each staff member "presents" his breakdown to the rest of the staff. It's a really really good way to come up with solutions specific to your team and what you are facing piggy backing on my own statement, probably the best thing about doing this is finding out what your assistants don't know, because we are barely smarter than chimps and our ego's are so fragile we would rather nod our head and smile for 5 years completely clueless than ask what somebody is talking about, at least I would anyway
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 23, 2019 13:16:09 GMT -6
I think clinics are awesome and college visits are fantastic, but the biggest things I've ever seen a staff do to improve is the take time together to self scout and go over issues from the previous season, then try to implement some changes, I was on a staff that was fortunate enough to take college visits for a week every spring, we would spend all day in meetings and at practice, but the most valuable thing we did there was game breakdowns of our previous season. Every assistant was assigned a number of games to watch and fill out a google doc on it questions were specific to our offense, how they lined up to us, what gave us problems, what we did well....that kind of thing. We had a copy of our game plan for the that game ready as well. Each staff member "presents" his breakdown to the rest of the staff. It's a really really good way to come up with solutions specific to your team and what you are facing
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 17, 2019 11:15:54 GMT -6
It varies a ton down here I have worked summers for nothing (covered in stipend) and gotten paid pretty well my current gig we have the option to sign up for one of two 2 hour sessions to run the summer strength and conditioning program, pay depends on however many kids sign up and pay for the program but it's pretty nice here, about 75 bucks a session so you can conceivably make 150 a day if you want to work that much
we get nothing for 7on7 since because we aren't technically supposed to be coaching it at all (we all do) , not that they would pay us anyway, everybody wants the rule changed so that we can coach 7 on 7 outright but I"m not a fan of the idea, district would have no incentive to pay us for our time when we've already been doing it for free.
So then the dudes come out of the woodwork with the whole "it's about the kids" thing which is true but bills still need to be paid and MasterCard doesn't take noble intentions to cover those late fees, not to mention the fact that working for free is a smack in the face to all of us. It's not that I want to be paid for the couple hours of my time in the summer, I want to be paid for my time in the summer along with the years of experience I bring with it. People might not want to treat us as such but we are experts in a particular field, experts normally get paid for their expertise, not guilted into giving it away for free
tell the school district next time they want to bring in some pedagogy genius to give a big talk about teacher bs to just not pay them, tell them they should do it for free because they love kids and see how far they get
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 14, 2019 11:57:02 GMT -6
If I am thinking of the same video, that coach was also the "facilities director" or something like that for his school district. So, he had a ton of work besides coaching that filled up some of those nights. But, generally, I agree with your premise. Every now and then an "hours" thread will pop up on here and it blows me away how many hours some coaches/staffs spend in meetings, preparation, etc. I'm certainly in favor of a minimalist approach in that aspect. Not because I don't want to put the hours in but because I've never found it to be that beneficial. In past DC positions, I spent all day Saturday and Sunday pouring over film, charting all kinds of tendencies (field position, personnel, D&D, etc..etc..) and using the metrics to come up with a "bullet proof" game plan. My play call sheet was double sided, tiny font, and filled with stuff. But, come Friday night, I became my own worst enemy. "3rd and medium, 21 personnel, they're on our 32. Gotta dial up blitzes X,Y or Z! Chit, we're getting gashed! Why aren't those stunts working!?! We've been repping them all year!! Alright, lets go with the back-up plan: tag Blitz X with Robber, we need guys in the box. CHIT!! That's not working either!! Go with Plan C: Blitz Y but tell Mike he's gunning the A-gap and we're going with C0. BAH!! They picked up five yards and we're bringing six!! BASE!! JUST GO WITH BASE!! LIVE IN BASE!!" hahahaha I knew a guy who had everything in a grid lined up like playing battleship this d/d with this field zone with this personnel, run this defense whole thing was super organized but completely ineffective, it's like tecmo bowl trying to pick your opponents play but it's not like he only has 8 to choose from
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 14, 2019 10:00:24 GMT -6
Yes, the kids ... and, more often, parents ... announcing their D-3 "offer" is silly and sad. But as to whether a kid should play football at a D-3 school, if that's what his talent level dictates, don't you think it depends on the kid, the school, and why he's going to college in the first place? A family that's paying huge money just so junior can play at a nowhere school ... yeah, that's dumb. But if we're talking about a kid who's taken high school seriously, gotten good grades, and might have "need," football might help him get into a D-3 school that will provide financial aid to meet his need, provide a quality education, and put him on a path to success in whatever he chooses to do in life. without question I overstated a bit for the purposes of comedy, those schools are a good fit and a great option for a certain type of kid.....i'm more referring to the kids who pay to play so tat their daddies can tell his buddies at the golf course that his on plays college fb
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 14, 2019 9:09:42 GMT -6
It's also okay to be more. Meh. I'm sure they are great guys and father figures and all that. It's the posting all over Twitter about what great guys and father figures they are that comes off as shallow and self serving. I often wonder if these guys would be such awesome role models if they couldn't post about what awesome role models they are. There are lots of guys out there...thousands of them...who treat kids fairly, show up on time, don't smoke, drink, chew, swear, or demean others in from of kids, and give the kids as much of an effort as the coach expects in return. The difference is that those guys don't have the need to market themselves as Football Jesus. The problem with social media is that there's the impersonal aspect of it, so it causes people to say thing I don't think they would normally say. It's like creating never ending commercial of yourself. The rule should be, if you wouldn't stand up in a room full of people and say something because you would obviously sound like a self promoting dip$ {censored}....then you probably shouldn't tweet it
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 14, 2019 8:44:18 GMT -6
CULTure bros, "blessed to receive...", pretty much anything on twitter, 7 on 7, kids and parents way too focused on recruiting, people selling other people's X and O stuff repackaged/renamed, good thing the bell just rang or I would go on a while Kids getting "offers" from D3 schools...hmmmmm. Kids are starting to make fun the whole "offers on twitter" thing which I think is a step in the right direction. I try to advise as many kids as I can about the realities of small college athletics it's really hard for these kids to imagine life without being athletes, it's been their entire identity since they were like 7 years old, so it's scary for them to think about just going to college and being a regular student but the reality is that typically, they will spend a couple of months in the middle of nowhere Kansas playing football in front of a roaring crowd of 7 people, going into debt to attend a private university, while all of their friends are partying at a state school having a blast because they are surrounded by thousands of other young people with actual stuff to do. not saying it's a bad decision, many kids go on and thrive at these places and really enjoy their time......but the majority don't stick around past a year or two. I know this first hand because I went to play in the middle of nowhere as a 19 year old, we had like 85 freshman and 8 seniors, it was a worse attrition rate than navy seal school, not one single guy that I got to know over the course of that year graduated from that college..not one
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 9, 2019 11:31:52 GMT -6
also the phrase "so it's just....." like when you talk X's and O's and are explaining something and somebody says "oh it's just cover 2"
it's no mfer it isn't, if it was then we'd just call it mf'ing cover 2
I'm watching the Bama guy give a talk in Texas (of course, everybody here is vince lombardi) where he is describing their "switch" adjustment to 2 read....so a guy in the audience says "oh so it's just 2 man"....speaker says no..it's not just 2 man...... dude actually argues...."well it looks like 2 man"
dude....guy coaches secondary for saban, but you probably know what the coverage is better than him because you guys beat mumford over at the their place 28-17.....unreal
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 9, 2019 11:15:09 GMT -6
Coaches wanting each others jobs and tearing them down behind their backs outside the coaches office, happens everywhere all the time, damn shame but the male ego is the male ego after all
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 9, 2019 8:13:08 GMT -6
People acting like HS football is some all important moment in people's lives. It's a freaking game. Winning or losing on a Friday night is not going to make or ruin your life. I was joking in the office about how all these guys who didn't play high school football just have no idea how to be "husbands and fathers"...putting diapers on backwards, mowing the lawn in a circle pattern...just didn't ever learn how it's done because they didn't play me and one other guy found it hilarious....everybody else was not amused
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 8, 2019 14:55:20 GMT -6
CULTure bros, "blessed to receive...", pretty much anything on twitter, 7 on 7, kids and parents way too focused on recruiting, people selling other people's X and O stuff repackaged/renamed, good thing the bell just rang or I would go on a while
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Post by fshamrock on Dec 19, 2018 13:31:21 GMT -6
Yes and yes. Not a movement guru by any means. But I say he has no hips if he cannot open and close them quickly. Or if they have a hard time doing a full squat (obviously there are also issues with ankle flexibility that exist). You have to be able to bend and get low. It can also be seen when they do high knees - can they get that knee to their chest? That will give a better picture than the squat in some ways. what does opening and close them mean? by open you mean like when you raise your right leg and rotate it backwards? like if I was going to pass drop?
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Post by fshamrock on Dec 19, 2018 11:32:08 GMT -6
Instead of running on a tangent in the "why does this kid have no offers" thread so I'll start a new one
when I hear a coach say, this kid just doesn't have hips....what exactly are we talking about
I suspect it's kind of a catch all phrase that we use to just say that a kid doesn't look athletic when he moves, but just because it looks that way does that make it true?
are "hips" about change of direction? I remember having defensive back once that we all said had bad "hips"....couldn't play safety, came out in the offseason and ran the pro-agility in a 4.10...which was one of our better times...but when the kid ran he just looked "stiff" he was really bulky in the upper body and just didn't look smooth, but when it came time to make cuts under the stopwatch he was plenty quick
are "hips" about bending? are we saying that the guy is too slow to lower his center of gravity and make cuts or tackle or break on the ball? Or is it more like that famous saying about pornography "i don't know how to define it but I know it when I see it"
I'd be curious to know from some of the movement guru's what exactly they are looking at when they make these determinations
thanks
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Post by fshamrock on Dec 10, 2018 9:42:09 GMT -6
Texas newspapers always publish an annual article on this to get people fired up, but It's kind of misleading. Most of these guys making 100k or close to are AD's or at a minimum campus coordinators so you figure these guys have anywhere from 25-50 people reporting to them, oversee budgets in the hundreds of thousands, and manage facilities that cost millions, not to mention the sheer number of kids that they are responsible for, the average teacher might have 100 kids total to worry about, these guys have every kid that plays a sport on that campus entrusted into their care in the private sector, a person with that # of reports and that much to look over is making way more than 100k.....it's still chump money for work that gets put in. the biscuit eaters just like to say "hunerd thousand fer coachin' futbawl!!!!...rabble rabble rabble rabble" and pitchfork around for a while once a year
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Post by fshamrock on Dec 7, 2018 11:29:44 GMT -6
Newhope: The answer to that question is our athletes were better than the opposing teams. This season was an anomaly. We have good kids that work hard, but in order to have long term success within this program small changes or tweak should be made. I should say that the 5 coaches on staff here are all VERY good coaches, between the 5 of us there are 3 state championship winners, 7 total state championship appearances. So I am trying to learn some ways to help a team handle some success, encourage discipline, and it never hurts to ask for help from others who possibly could have some insight. when you have your own team, run it however you want, if you have problems with the head coach make them known to him personally, if you don't hear what you want to hear drive on to another school You my friend have hit the proverbial wall....you think you can do the head coaches job better than the head coach, it's time to move on. Or I guess you could run your mouth about him to parents and other coaches trying to build a little coalition of disgruntled people, start having little culture meetings behind his back, Maybe get him fired and see how that works, but that would make you just like every other low down chitbird who ever pulled that move . Probably coming on a little too strong and I apologize, but it's obvious in your post that you feel the head coach is inadequate to move the program forward, you could have asked for help with culture crap without mentioning him at all, but you didn't. If every disgruntled assistant who thought they knew the best way to run a team would just keep their mouths closed or gtfo then this job would be a whole lot easier we have to take crap off of parents, fans, other teachers, admin etc etc etc...but somehow we are worse to each other than all of them combined when our ego's kick in
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Post by fshamrock on Dec 7, 2018 11:21:04 GMT -6
foolproof plan, go get all the latest life changing self help books "purpose driven purpose of life" "how to team the team out of a team" "mission statements for when you need to state your mission" "what is your mission statement for writing mission statements?" "who moved my cheese?" lay them all around his office....once he reads them he will turn into a bonafide culture changer and you guys will win state for sure Sounds like you have attended a few staff, beginning of the year "pre-services"... Next divide the staff up into groups for "collaboration", jot down some thoughts you have taken from these books on a couple of posted notes, place them on the room wall. And discuss how you all can "align" your thoughts and ideas, to benefit the "stakeholders" involved. I tell ya what whoever first brought in one of those big things of lined butcher paper that you can write on then tear off and stick on the wall....that mother scratcher changed the game
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Post by fshamrock on Dec 7, 2018 10:30:18 GMT -6
foolproof plan, go get all the latest life changing self help books
"purpose driven purpose of life" "how to team the team out of a team" "mission statements for when you need to state your mission" "what is your mission statement for writing mission statements?" "who moved my cheese?"
lay them all around his office....once he reads them he will turn into a bonafide culture changer and you guys will win state for sure
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Post by fshamrock on Dec 3, 2018 13:10:46 GMT -6
I've been places that do it and don't do it, what's funny is when you don't do it and the opposing fans start screaming at you like you are burning the american flag using solar energy instead of fossil fuels
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Post by fshamrock on Dec 3, 2018 11:56:49 GMT -6
All of the coaches and players on the team get a new t-shirt each week of the season. They all usually have a different saying or motto that pertains to that week. Players get cotton ones to wear during warm ups, coaches get dri fit to wear during warm ups and the game. Needless to say after a few years their my closet is getting full. Lol sounds like head coaches wife runs a t-shirt company
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Post by fshamrock on Nov 29, 2018 10:34:26 GMT -6
Tons of seemingly good programs in that area, wish you the best man. I've never worked around Dallas shockingly so I don't know anybody out that way. If you get a job at Allen let me know I'll come with
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Post by fshamrock on Nov 28, 2018 14:27:57 GMT -6
The point of the article isn't to tell you what you should be doing. The point of the article is to make you think about why you are doing things they way that you do them. And because this is the way that we have always done it is not an acceptable answer. I understand that I think the point I'm trying to make is that there is danger in the idea of contrarianism for it's own sake. There probably are several methods we use that were developed to solve problems that no longer exist, I"m all for eliminating those, but the tone of this article is pretty much "football coaches are mouth breathing idiots with no capacity for independent thought"...to which I disagree. Doesn't surprise me that it comes from a track guy....they hear so many "run fast and turn left" jokes that they over complicate their sport into near oblivion to try and sound like they are working hard. For proof of this assertion have the pole vault explained to you by any self proclaimed vaulting guru then clear your calendar for a day or so....holy moly who knew sticking a pole in the ground could be so technical I kid obviously, I know track is hard, and I like the gist of the article when it talks about practicing less, which I love because I really do hate practice, but some of this stuff is just not practical or executable, and I don't think we get anywhere when we start from the premise of "90% of (this group of people) are (these character traits)"
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Post by fshamrock on Nov 28, 2018 13:52:33 GMT -6
I've decided now that I don't like the article, primarily for two reasons
1 - it way over stereotypes football coaches, we are a pretty diverse group for the most part with varied ways of thinking. Only people who coach other stuff and have football penis envy (because nobody bothers to show up to watch kids run track) think of us all as it one gelatinous blob of bible spewing war mongers, but I get the sensationalism for clicks, and it's fun to think that you might be on the forefront of a new and better way of doing things, but what you come to find out a lot of time is some of these old ways of doing things served a really good purpose. The issue is that since everybody uses these methods, the old problems that they solved are no longer readily visible, so we start to think that they don't exist and the methods are no longer necessary.
Go on ahead and have a practice where you do one "maximum speed" rep of team, then rest for 2 minutes with everybody just standing around, let me know how good that next rep is after you have managed to stop the slap boxing fights and get all the guys calmed down from how smelly the o-line kids fart was
and what is the plan when a kid messes up his assignment in Team? doing it again immediately is not advised because it would be a "sub-maximum" rep and therefore worthless, so let's wait 2 minutes and get that energy system back up, then run the play again full speed...ahh crap now this other kid did it wrong..ah man let's wait another 2 minutes and ......
2nd biggest reason is that this dude has no skin in the game, it's all theoretical, he apparently isn't coaching a football team right now, so he can say whatever the hell he wants is a best practice and is taking no risks with his reputation
hogwash I say..hogwash
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Post by fshamrock on Nov 27, 2018 11:39:56 GMT -6
I have tried a version of this with my own individual time. I understand the concept that only full speed reps create new neural pathways and create learning, and you can only do so many full speed reps in a given period of time, so I scheduled some indy drills with more rest built in, so like one kid going while the others rest...maximum recovery problem is that a bunch of kids standing in a line with nothing to do very quickly become a bunch of kids goofing off and driving everybody freaking nuts...I'm not sure where the balance is. I hate the idea that I'm grinding the kids and they aren't getting better because they are just aren't given enough time to rest and execute the drill at full speed, but I don't want my practice time to devolve into chaos like a bad 7th period class
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Post by fshamrock on Nov 27, 2018 10:45:48 GMT -6
alright I'm intrigued you guys who are doing this, if you don't mind sharing, what does a typical monday practice like? I mean I get that it's supposed to be fast, but fast doing what? If I haven't installed my game plan yet because that's for the recovery day tuesday then what exactly am I doing on Monday and how am I doing it at full speed If I haven't taught it yet? is it all fundy's with very little Team/Hull periods I think it's cool to break out the quotation book and a thesaurus and write an article that goes against the norm a little bit, but what does the thing look like when it's actually executed?
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Post by fshamrock on Nov 26, 2018 13:05:04 GMT -6
I was going to add this to the D-bag coaches thread but then I remembered the ever present possibility that it might be me that is the D-bag after all, and that D-bag behavior is really just anything outside the norm, so if it turns out that more people are doing this than not, I'm probably the d-bag anyway
I'm noticing that more and more staffs are coming out in pregame warm ups wearing shorts and t-shirts, then changing into game day gear while after the kids go back in before the big run out
what up with that?
I've even seen a couple of guys wearing earphones during the entire warm up process
a sign of less professionalism in the job or just coaches being smart and maximizing comfort as long as possible?
I"m undecided
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Post by fshamrock on Nov 15, 2018 9:59:41 GMT -6
I can get out of hand quickly...we tell our players after every practice to get on a watch film on our opponents,very few bother to do it and we don't enforce it. Sometimes after a game if we mis align to a funny formation we yell at them because they don't watch film. I think we'd be better off giving them something specific to watch. If I were to tell a kid hey man look up the iso's from the past three games and you can see how they block it. I might have a chance, saying "watch hudl" is like telling a kid he needs to "lift this summer" and then leave him alone, then get pissed off when he isn't bigger
If there's nothing specific that you want them to watch, then just don't ask them to watch film that week, it isn't the end of world.
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Post by fshamrock on Nov 13, 2018 14:37:35 GMT -6
I saw one this year scouting, team was down 4 with the ball and the clock running out, if the opposing team got the ball back they could kneel it out and win....so the losing team gets a 4th and long, comes out in punt formation...everybody in the stands is wondering wth they are doing...gotta go for it...team calls time out.....collective sigh from the crowd..it's all good
team comes out of the timeout and is in punt formation again......runs a fake...I crap you not....and it was the kind of fake where you just snap it to the punter and he tries to run for the first....anyways..they lost
then beat us a few weeks later holy gawd there isn't enough bud light
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