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Post by coachfloyd on Apr 14, 2015 11:25:57 GMT -6
exactly. This is one of those things you could cheat on without getting in trouble unless somebody gets hurt and tries to sue. Then you are done. I see that some companies are starting to make "bags" that you can wear. That may be an alternative. Would one on one pass pro with no pads count as contact? Trying to find a way to squeeze more out of the rule.
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Post by coachfloyd on Apr 13, 2015 5:43:24 GMT -6
Show them the injury rates between soccer and football. They will be surprised. I had a kid not able to play college football because of concussions sustained during soccer.
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Post by coachfloyd on Apr 10, 2015 18:21:13 GMT -6
One school did it and it was awful. Players played for the stupid stickers. We went 3-7 and had players with crap all over their helmets. We only put on stickers if we won. Rooster Good plan.
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Post by coachfloyd on Apr 9, 2015 18:39:11 GMT -6
One school did it and it was awful. Players played for the stupid stickers. We went 3-7 and had players with crap all over their helmets.
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Post by coachfloyd on Apr 3, 2015 19:40:18 GMT -6
My point is WHAT is a "low talent" area, and more importantly WHY is that a "low talent" area? I am not talking about a great class or two that rise up together. I mean the posts where the coach says "We don't seem to get ______" coach2013 brought up a few reasons why some schools might always have the best of the best, namely move ins. Also, once you have "talent", then your up and coming players get to practice against that talent daily, and they definitely get better. Obviously a snowball effect. But to address your point, WHY would Jefferson High be a "low talent area", but Lincoln High 15 miles away be a very solid team year in and year out? I would bet money that at heart of it it's all socioeconomic. The lowest around here tend to churn D1 guys like crazy. One we play is very inner city. They had three just on defense that I know of and their qb might be the most recruited in the state next year. I don't follow that stuff so it might have been more. But in the same city there are teams that have no talent. Same with another team in our area.
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Post by coachfloyd on Apr 3, 2015 10:11:01 GMT -6
I see posts on Huey quite frequently inquiring about schemes for "less talent" or looking for ways to give your lilliputian squad a chance against a schedule of juggernaut teams. Most recently a new thread inquiring about how to apply the movie "Moneyball" to a HS football squad brought up this concept again. I think all of these posts raise the question "WHY DON'T YOUR TEAMS HAVE TALENT???" Why are all of the OTHER teams more talented than you? Why do you not have ________ "types". Is there something in your school's water supply that keeps your kids small slow and weak, and the opponents big, fast, and strong? Do other schools serve something in their cafeteria salad bar that allows HS kids to throw 35 yard out routes on a line year after year after year and your cafe doesn't? I could be wrong but it seems to me that you haven't worked in a low talent area before. There are schools around me who have unbelievable talent. There are others that are flat out awful. Some of it is socioeconomic. More affluent areas tend to not be as athletic because there are other things to grab their attention. I moved from a school where I had 5 offensive linemen that were offered football scholarships (one of which went to an NFL camp after being a 3 year starter at UGA) to a school 30minutes away and I had a 175lb offensive tackle. After a year of hard training (I like to think at least that I know what I am doing in that regard) he was up to almost 190 but not even close to the guys I just had. And that was the best we had. My first job we went 1-9 both years I was there. Our FS ran a 5.0. That was the absolute best we had. We were so slow it was ridiculous. Another team in town(literally 5 mins away) went to the 3rd round. Their QB played at Navy. The year I got there the district redrew the lines for the schools. Now my old school has a ton of talent and the other team is terrible. Its basically the opposite. When youve had the fortune (or misfortune) of working in a school like that, you have a better appreciation for how little we as coaches actually control. Here is a good story and probably defines my views on the subject. When my dad first started coaching he won a state championship his first year as a varsity coach. This was a long time ago so he was one of like 4 on the staff. So he obviously had a lot to do with it. Him and another coach left to take over a struggling program. In almost 10 years they didnt break .500. He said when he got there he thought it was all them so they could turn it around no problem. That place hasnt won since he left except for maybe 2-3 years. We are talking over 40 years of football.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 27, 2015 17:39:33 GMT -6
Anybody think that some of these college coaches aren't very smart? I've talked to a few that couldn't x and o their way out of a wet paper bag. One had just won a bcs championship. Maybe it transfers over to common sense life stuff which I think is what fantom is speaking about.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 26, 2015 9:34:40 GMT -6
The follow up: The 5'8" kid is a great kid, played in spots. He knew he definitely wasn't better than the 6'2" kid. He played mainly special teams. olcoach53 - the greatest part of that whole story is the reaction of his parents when I didn't start him. I didn't hear a single word from them. Not a peep, they treated me the same as they always had. At the end of the season I pulled them aside and thanked them for allowing me to "drive" their son in game 1. They just laughed and said "his playing time is between you and him, we are supportive no matter what." I have to say one of the greatest thing about coaching at the private school was those parents expected you to drive and be hard on their kids. I'm sure the HC had to deal with some stuff from some parents, IDK, but if he did it was minimal, nothing like we've dealt with at some public schools. On the Alabama kid - the night I benched him, a little scene took place on the bench to the point where I said "you know what, you're done, go play offense." His mom and grandpa were sitting in the first row right above us and after my conversation with the kid they were clapping. The next series the kid goes back out, but I had replaced him. He comes jogging off, comes over and says "when do I go back in?" I said "for me? Never. Go play running back." he wandered away and came back a few minutes later and says "alright. my bad. you're right. I was bullchittin." So I put him back in. Later, on a plane ride back from a visit he says "you know, you're the first coach to ever bench me." I said "well chit, you're a great player but you ain't necessary if you're just doing whatever you want." His first year at Alabama he screwed up a kickoff coverage and the camera is on him as Saban is ripping him on the sideline and he got replaced on kickoff. The next day I called him and asked him if everything was alright. He said "yea, it's cool. He ain't the first MFer to bench me." HAHAHAHA. I feel like with that kid, that was my biggest contribution to his development. I mean he grew to be 6'2" 235 lbs, could run, had instincts, etc. That was womb given, I didn't coach that. I tried to teach him to think the game and how to handle adversity. That's awesome
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 26, 2015 9:33:15 GMT -6
Never said he wasn't legit player. My point is that major college is a business. I'm sure that he was just as good as you say, but to say that the reason why he didn't get a scholarship was because he didn't have a great jr, and not cause he broke his leg (which is Very Serious) is a little far fetched IMO. That's very possible. My point was I should have full out fired him instead of demoting and rehiring over and over as a junior. But had he rushed for 2000 yards it might have made some people notice. He was about to start getting it 25 times a game.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 25, 2015 19:37:56 GMT -6
The kids always have to know you won't play them. Had a kid last year who just dogged it in the weight room. Supreme talent. We are talking big time d1 running back. Rushed for 1000 as a junior. He was off the radar for most because he didn't attend camps or combines and we had another rb that overshadowed him his junior year. I spent most of that year bencing him. And he still rushed for 1000. Offseason going into his senior year he didn't give a lot of effort. So I told him he wouldn't play for me. During spring bunch of teams including gt came to watch him. He's a perfect b back. He didn't get one carry. I told him he was either going to be the best player we ever had or I was going to make him quit. He spent half the summer fighting it but finally bought in. First game rushed for 104 yards on 12 carries and 4tds. He was unreal. Then he broke his leg. His crappy junior year screwed him because now he needed that senior year and wouldn't get it. I should have done that a year earlier. I did him a disservice by not going hardball from the beginning. Don't think major D1 would have given him a scholarship regardless if he broke his leg his SR yr.. Glad you feel that way. Ha. This dude was legit. I would be glad to send you some film. Probably would have been a juco then d1 but he was special. 205 and ran 4.38 the first time I clocked him. Even if Im wrong he's still fast and large. Btw I just put a rb at San diego state last year and started a new school this week who has one going to South Carolina. This guy was better than both and I don't think it was even close. But we will never know because he didn't get to show his full potential.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 25, 2015 15:42:55 GMT -6
The kids always have to know you won't play them. Had a kid last year who just dogged it in the weight room. Supreme talent. We are talking big time d1 running back. Rushed for 1000 as a junior. He was off the radar for most because he didn't attend camps or combines and we had another rb that overshadowed him his junior year. I spent most of that year bencing him. And he still rushed for 1000. Offseason going into his senior year he didn't give a lot of effort. So I told him he wouldn't play for me. During spring bunch of teams including gt came to watch him. He's a perfect b back. He didn't get one carry. I told him he was either going to be the best player we ever had or I was going to make him quit. He spent half the summer fighting it but finally bought in. First game rushed for 104 yards on 12 carries and 4tds. He was unreal. Then he broke his leg. His crappy junior year screwed him because now he needed that senior year and wouldn't get it. I should have done that a year earlier. I did him a disservice by not going hardball from the beginning.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 18, 2015 10:00:25 GMT -6
I would take that bet. The safety of creatine has been established for some time now. No offense, but that is an uninformed statement. It is even being touted for its health benefits now. The safety of creatine has been long established as safe. Off topic for this discussion though. My point is, that anything used without any knowledge of the product or weapon, will lead to harm eventually. You view creatine as perfectly fine because you are educated about how to use it. You view guns as dangerous because you probably aren't educated on how to use them and buy into what you hear about them. In the hands of an educated person, they're perfectly safe. A nail gun is dangerous as crap in the hands of an irresponsible, unacknowledged person. But, you don't run from a roofer when he grabs one. Whoaaa. We have a misunderstanding. I do not thing guns are inherently dangerous. My point was that an overzealous parent was more concerned about the most studied sports supplement in the history of the free world than her son having an automatic weapon. In fact, she is more concerned about the material contained in capsules that house supplements more than an automatic weapon. I am anti gun control just for the record. ha. I think there is a sliding scale of danger with things and creatine would be on the benign side rather than the "this does have the potential to kill you" side.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 17, 2015 13:10:37 GMT -6
True story. I'd be willing to bet that creatine has done more harm to causal users than an AR-15 has done in the hands of a trained, knowledgeable user. I would take that bet. The safety of creatine has been established for some time now. No offense, but that is an uninformed statement. It is even being touted for its health benefits now. The safety of creatine has been long established as safe. Off topic for this discussion though.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 17, 2015 12:37:33 GMT -6
If you know what you're doing, an AR-15 is way safer than creatine. ha
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 17, 2015 12:08:13 GMT -6
I say this in the weight room but it can apply to football too.. Dont talk to me about safety until you wear a seatbelt every time you drive, don't drink, dont drink and drive, dont ride with people who drink and drive, dont smoke, dont hang around people who smoke, dont use drugs, dont use drugs and drive, dont ride with people who use drugs and then drive, dont have sex with untold numbers of people that you have no idea about and even if you do what about the people they had sex with, don't ride 4 wheelers, dont drive above the speed limit, dont hang out with gangs, don't hang out with people with guns, dont hang out with drug dealers and dont do many of the other things that kids do that most parents really don't give a crap about.
I had one parent that wouldn't let her son take creatine but he owned and shot an AR-15. Thats insane to me.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 16, 2015 9:13:42 GMT -6
I think the biggest issue is the offense and defense being on the same page. Ive been in situations before where one side didnt want to give up someone because they were afraid they might look worse even though it was better for the team. Some guys are coaching to move up and not to win. That may be a different thread all together though.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 10, 2015 7:26:53 GMT -6
We started out 2-0 this year and went into week 3 the #10 ranked team in 4A in Georgia. Our kids started talking about it. I reminded them that the people who ranked us and the other teams havent see us or anybody else play. We proceeded to go 1-7 the rest of the year. In 2008 we started 0-2 and thought we might not win a game. We ended up finishing 6-5 and was 3rd in the region. Neither success or failure is ever permanent.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 9, 2015 10:48:16 GMT -6
if you can at all help it, don't coach with dudes you can't trust.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 9, 2015 7:26:11 GMT -6
Every year I do a tire flipathon. Kids get pledges for how many times they will flip the tire in one minute. We do it in class and each kid gets sponsors. We will usually give away some type of tshirt if you raise so much money. Every year I make between 2k and 4K for the weight room and I dont have to sell anything or handle any merchandise.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 9, 2015 7:23:42 GMT -6
I wonder how many times I have read someone respond to this "joke" and Ive thought that they take themselves way too seriously. Im lucky to have sleeves on at a JV game. Or even shoes for that matter. Some of yall really need to relax. I don't think anyone is taking themselves too seriously. I think we've all met people who say things like that and we just automatically assume you are one of those a-holes. I've heard exactly that type of statement from multiples of coaches. It's not that great of a "joke" when people hear that kind of crap from people for real. maybe im taking my ownself too seriously. ha
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 9, 2015 6:25:41 GMT -6
Here is a funny story. I was at a clinic listening to a local D1 college coach speak on special teams. I dont want to give his name away or the name of the guy away because he is well known. Anyway, this guy who is there listening as well is a big time head coach and his brother was a big time college head coach. Very well known. Anyway, we are at the clinic and they are dressed like they are about to coach in the state championship game. School everything. I think even the belt had the school name on it. I mean he looked perfect. The college coach asks him to come up to help with the demonstration. When he gets up there, his fly is down. haha.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 9, 2015 6:13:40 GMT -6
My first year coaching the offensive coordinator I worked for said that if the other teams coaches are wearing shorts then it is sure fire way to know that you can scheme them up. I've lived by that ever since. If our JV game is a Thursday instead of Friday most of the JV staff wears a pair of shorts we would wear to practice. I wonder how many teams have had this thought run through their minds about us then get their butts handed to them... I wonder how many times I have read someone respond to this "joke" and Ive thought that they take themselves way too seriously. Im lucky to have sleeves on at a JV game. Or even shoes for that matter. Some of yall really need to relax.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 6, 2015 14:29:59 GMT -6
Surely you realize that he was kidding and I was kidding. Perhaps, but there are many on here who are not when they say things like this. Well in that case then everybody needs to take themselves a little less seriously!
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 6, 2015 10:01:11 GMT -6
My first year coaching the offensive coordinator I worked for said that if the other teams coaches are wearing shorts then it is sure fire way to know that you can scheme them up. I've lived by that ever since. Statements like this never cease to amaze me with the sheer cockiness and stupidity of them. Yes, because only dumb people wear shorts. Surely you realize that he was kidding and I was kidding.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 4, 2015 11:28:38 GMT -6
I think it's kinda funny how coaches can get judged on their football knowledge and coaching prowess by what they wear to a game. I don't care if the other team's coach has his face painted and is wearing a tutu, I'm not going to underestimate him based on his attire. obviously you have a terrible sense of humor.
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Post by coachfloyd on Mar 4, 2015 6:45:39 GMT -6
My first year coaching the offensive coordinator I worked for said that if the other teams coaches are wearing shorts then it is sure fire way to know that you can scheme them up. I've lived by that ever since.
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Post by coachfloyd on Feb 26, 2015 14:09:36 GMT -6
I dont really get it. Auburn runs like 4 plays that everybody else runs too. Theres not really any secrets. Are they going to sue ESPN because they do the spider cam?
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Post by coachfloyd on Feb 26, 2015 13:07:31 GMT -6
it happened while I was looking at it last night. All of a sudden it was private in the middle of a video. That really sucks bad. I was watching it every night.
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Post by coachfloyd on Feb 26, 2015 10:35:12 GMT -6
One of the middle schools in the county where I used to coached cuts because they don't have enough equipment. One of the guys they cut as a 7th grader has started at UGA since he was a freshman and cleaned 400 in high school. He will get drafted next year. He started almost every game for us when he got to the high school. What if he had gotten discouraged and didnt come back out the next year?
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Post by coachfloyd on Feb 24, 2015 8:01:27 GMT -6
This is my favorite. I used to tell my offense before every game that I didnt care if we won or lost. I wanted the other team to say thank God we dont have to play them again. If every team did that, we would win more than we lost.
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