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Post by brophy on Apr 25, 2010 14:05:57 GMT -6
you don't have to worry about doing something detrimental on or off the field. But again, character concerns aren't an issue with most guys in similar situations, which is why I am curious if it just isn't coded language for Tebow. Is a guy 'high character' only if he makes a big deal about it? I'm sure Tebow is a consummate football competitor, but (agents) invoking it as a qualification is like a politician saying that he values children's education......(So I guess the other guy doesn't?). Who is to say Tebow has more character than LeFevour, Bradford, McCoy, Pike, Canfileld, or Snead? It becomes a fan thing. If I'm a religious guy, and this guy is pretty outspoken in my same beliefs (he agrees with me), then I'll naturally be drawn, identify, and feel he has something good to offer Character applies to extreme cases....not many kids are Dez Bryants or Lawrence Phillips. Poor character mainly is indicative of immaturity, and if there is anything that Tebow is, its mature. Yes, naturally is better to work with mature players (this issue isn't mutually exclusive / athletic vs mature). I've never given a player a multi-million dollar contract, but I'd assume granting an immatue kid limitless amounts of cash would not be a good thing. ** if Tebow was selected in the late 2nd or 3rd round would any of this really be an issue?
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Post by brophy on Apr 25, 2010 12:47:56 GMT -6
How much more 'high-character' is Tebow than other candidates? Is it his virginity or something?
Isn't Colt McCoy made up of the same 'high-character' (read religious) stuff? what is high character and how is it manifesting itself in athletic play/coaching (so much so that it becomes a tangible attribute)?
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Post by brophy on Apr 25, 2010 11:22:55 GMT -6
I may be misunderstanding this as sarcasm, but It looked like he had the same motion for the years at UF too me, with little too no change. it was a big deal in both years leading up to the seasons. ESPN did the motion-analysis thing and did numerous stories both times about how he improved his throwing motion. Spring 2009 was all about his throwing going as far to live in empty sets to showcase it (and keep him in the pocket) I'm not saying he won't be good - just that it is untrue to say it wasn't tried to coach him up at UF. it's good to see that Ozzie ignored the idiots and made a good pick. Ozzie Newsome is the GM of the Ravens, who pilfered Denver for their picks to trade up
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Post by brophy on Apr 25, 2010 7:05:13 GMT -6
If Tebow would have been around for the Bronco's 2nd round pick (and no one had him projected as a 1st rounder), why would they need to trade up to get him?
They didn't just select him in the 1st round, but they used multiple picks (in a deep talent draft class) to get him
If anything, it proves how savvy a GM, Ozzie Newsome is
On some levels, Tebow may be AHEAD of the curve, if he has faced the rationale of why the throwing needs to change (as opposed to other quartebacks in the league), so that maturity (if there) may provide him even more of a foundation to improve/succeed
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Post by brophy on Apr 24, 2010 20:47:00 GMT -6
I suppose no ever seems to recall the reconstituted and improved (throwing technique of) Tebow v2 in 2008 spring.....followed by Tebow v3 in spring 2009 (But UF never coached/messed with his mechanics)
I don't recall LeFevour, McCoy, Cannfield, Pike, or even Claussen having hype surrounding them about concerted emphasis on correcting their delivery method during their career.
The issue is presented because it takes so long for him to get the ball out and the inefficient method contributes to an inconsistently thrown ball. That inconsistency is what will be exposed in the pros where the margin for error is nill. What contributes to a QB's failures? It is a multitude of issues; some personal, some mechanical, some intellectual, some is the rest of the team. To succeed as a pro, I would imagine eliminating as many of those liabilities would be the path of lesser risk.
I wish Tebow all the best - he is a heckuva ball player - but it is rather disengenuous to suggest that 'all QBs need to improve their throwing at the next level' is the same as what we're talking about here. He landed at a great spot to provide him the best possible environment to thrive.
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Post by brophy on Apr 20, 2010 14:28:53 GMT -6
i thought the article was suggesting (by applying it to a football staff) that roles & responsibilities of staff members are reviewed and analyzed from the past season (how was our staff dynamic working with press box communication? sideline management? substitutions? off season participation?)
Rather than the 'come to jesus meeting' in the off-season (where the HC dictates what assistants 'need to be doing' and or what they did wrong.....talking AT the assistant), the staff would sit down with the header and discuss their thoughts on the program, what they can do, how they fit (talking WITH)
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Post by brophy on Apr 20, 2010 9:31:02 GMT -6
I believe what woodall is getting at is not performance reviews, but effective staff development
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Post by brophy on Apr 17, 2010 12:50:04 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Apr 16, 2010 11:10:56 GMT -6
so.....what kind of qualifications is truly REQUIRED to be a HC?
Not knocking the position at all, but much of the success and failure for a guy that accepts the position will be determined by 1. School District / Board 2. Principal / AD
then..... 3. athlete / parent pool 4. boosters
Now, HC candidates matter, but so much of the plate is set/hardwired before the guy accepts the position, and the factors listed above affect a great deal in the direction the 'football ship' continues down.
There really isn't much 'football' that a HC HAS to do. There may be HC'es out there that do a significant portion, but it certainly isn't required (most are better when the guy delegates all the football stuff). HCing more and more has to do with being a face of a program, and if thats what sells your program, why shouldn't an ex-NFLer qualify (more) for that billing?
If it is about 'paying your dues'....what do you pay your dues FOR? To gain experience. If you already HAVE the experience, what dues are then required? If I've flown all sorts of aircraft, and now I want to fly commercial jets........there is no reason I need to start out with a Cessna training course because my experience is relative to what I plan to apply it to (the foundation and application is already established)
As for the Pederson situation, you could have inserted another HC in that spot and gotten the same results (not taking away what he accomplished), but he certainly carried significant cred to build the program to what it became (New Evangel). The AD ]Johnny Booty had a lot to do with it (as well as the team being in a rather pedestrian 2A classification, losing to Evangel in the playoffs in 2007)
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Post by brophy on Apr 15, 2010 16:16:08 GMT -6
Doug Pederson, Calvary Baptist Academy (Shreveport,LA) www.tigerrag.com/?p=1140Put up a legitimate run for state championship ....And he's now QB coach in the NFL *of course he had plenty of help from AD, Johnny Booty (architect of Evangel)
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Post by brophy on Apr 13, 2010 7:12:39 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Apr 7, 2010 7:34:56 GMT -6
Louisiana Techbrophyfootball.blogspot.com/search/label/Louisiana%20TechLearned: - *Reminded me why I enjoy coaching and the game
- *Ebbs and flows of interaction between coaches and players during multiple practices - how they handle players and situations (how they communicate)
- *SCIF / End technique on Fire Zones
- *Nuanced way of playing safeties and corners in quarters (and man)
- *Better run concepts out of Trips
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Post by brophy on Apr 6, 2010 20:04:33 GMT -6
the A-11 J/k adapatations of the game are best captured at the pro level where it is more pronounced (especially how the game has adapated to speed on defense, rule enforcement, etc) In HS / College, the main adapation comes from the most critical elements of the game: the kids/parents. The management style must change/adapt to fit the needs of the community and players. Gone are the days of Knute Rockne wanna-be at City High lording over the Phys Ed department and dominating his players. Increased organization and more information being disseminated to the players is another change. The goal remains the same, but the methods change to suit the milieu.
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Post by brophy on Mar 31, 2010 10:30:14 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Mar 29, 2010 9:50:00 GMT -6
at the very worst, a standard ladder will work, or film from the back of a pickup truck (all things we've done in the past). It sucks, but its better than nothing.
For a 6A school, though, you ought to have some money to kick around.
Also, if you can access a stadium / bleachers, just film from the stands with the offense coming out of the sideline.
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Post by brophy on Mar 26, 2010 15:24:28 GMT -6
might have to watch for retributions from peers though isn't the whole point, though? (not necessarily physical)
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Post by brophy on Mar 26, 2010 10:40:08 GMT -6
In all fairness, the article actually has nothing to do with the education system, though the OP is attempting to draw the conclusion of cause-and-effect. I'm sure it may influence, but probably is not that big of a deal. As a teacher I couldn't disagree more. Kids today do not think. They want everything handed to them. Test scores are lower. Achievement is lower. They can't spell, punctuate, edit, etc... Oh sure there are smart kids. But for the most part they are underachieving. What are you incentivizing in the classroom? I wouldn't anticipate incentivizing rote memorization for regurgitation leads to anything but vegetation. Today's classroom doesn't lead one to free-thinking or independence....its all about test scores and repeating the answers. Has anyone ever noticed the trend in these types of discussions, though? "Kids are soft and weak""Its because we can't do _______ in the classroom. The education system needs to be able to __________""why aren't kids learning? They are really dumb""its the evil parents fault!"The minute there is teacher accountability intimated, it immediately becomes a 'parents-fault' retort.
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Post by brophy on Mar 26, 2010 7:21:11 GMT -6
Unrelated to the article, but I never really understood the elimination of PE in schools. That just seems counter-intuitive to adolescent development/cognition training. Kids aren't naturally going to sit still in a desk or classroom and absorb information like a graduate course lecture. However, not to derail your intent (which is certainly valid), I don't believe the article's content is a real barometer for a healthy society. Judging a generation's worth solely on how well they can become automaton soldiers would appear to be counter-productive. And thats a bad thing? This is something we ought to keep in mind when coaching football. Kids seem to respond better to appealling to their intellect (pattern recognition skills) rather than physically beating them into the ground. It is good that the future generation will be more independent and free-thinking. It is BAD when we coddle folks with attention. I'm all for letting kids find their own answers, but I'm also for letting them learn the lesson of STFU (you're not special and don't need to be validated) The article could be a good jump off point towards the true scope of how the military should be utilized (this isn't 1943 anymore). ( www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/02/22/the_new_rules_of_war ) ** good luck, though, I'm sure this thread will be locked shortly
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Post by brophy on Mar 16, 2010 7:29:36 GMT -6
then let me offer my services....
I propose including Jessica Biel, Megan Fox, Jessica Alba, Stacy Dash, Beyonce, Eva Mendez, Scarlett Johansson, Angelina Jolie, Anna Faris, Alicja Bachleda, Teresa Palmer, Hayden Panatierre, Emma Stone, Jennifer Garner.....
Oh....I work cheap
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Post by brophy on Mar 16, 2010 6:17:17 GMT -6
can't do Lombardi without Halas..... here's to Uncle Junior scoring that role
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Post by brophy on Mar 15, 2010 9:41:29 GMT -6
didja not like tha JAMbalaya?DeNiro in "The Good Shepard" (w/horned rim glasses) may be a precursor of Lombardi, eh?
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Post by brophy on Mar 15, 2010 9:08:26 GMT -6
DeNiro is 66 and doesn't quite look like Lombardi (but I'm sure he can pull off whatever role he gets) Just saying Stiller did a great job.
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Post by brophy on Mar 15, 2010 8:32:18 GMT -6
DeNiro? Wow..... For the 75th NFL anniversary, I remember Jerry Stiller doing a pretty mean Lombardi portrayal
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Post by brophy on Mar 12, 2010 7:43:20 GMT -6
Weights don't hit back, opponents do. you're doing it wrong
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Post by brophy on Mar 11, 2010 13:16:54 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Mar 10, 2010 9:23:19 GMT -6
encouraging or requiring chronically ineffective teachers to leave teaching. well, i actually searched and skimmed through the 37 page SALES PITCH for pay and didn't find an answer for how they were going to weed out poor teachers. All I saw was more peer review and lesson plan audits - most folks already do this now. Should teachers be paid more? Sure, I guess. Is that what is hindering education / learning? I sincerely doubt it. This is starting to feel like a red herring / personal soap box to the actual issue and I'm failing to see how it actually addresses what happened in RI (that is indicitive of the rest of the country). I don't have a dog in the hunt and don't anticipate there ever being a solution, but many of the teachers who give teachers a bad name, are the ones earning the most and essentially just leeching off of athletic contracts, per diems, trainings, and administration....
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Post by brophy on Mar 10, 2010 9:04:38 GMT -6
so what do teachers do when they can't work?
what skill sets can they put on the open market?
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Post by brophy on Mar 10, 2010 8:38:10 GMT -6
. If the starting pay for teachers was doubled
No matter what anyone says there is a certain respect and prestige that a 60k job has over a 30k job (profession)! How would throwing more money at the position and making it more attractive guarantee improved classroom results? Now you'd have more people looking to cash in on an 8-330 gig with 180 days off. If your argument is that a teacher making double would command more respect from those trouble-parents, are those trouble-parents quivering when facing principals and admin? I didn't think so. The LAST thing to solve this issue is trying to sell people on "respecting teachers", because it doesn't do anything for the classroom (other than stroke teachers). And on a message board full of teachers, I'm sure this "solution" will be cheered and huzzah'd as the answer. Not to pick a fight, but I don't think I've EVER heard in my 13 years of coaching a teacher ever suggest their cohorts may have to do better to garner more production. I do hear a myriad of "parents", "bad kids", "no money", "no respect", "administrators", "politics", etc.....as to why production fails. I'm certainly not suggesting any of those reasons aren't a cause, I've just never heard a teacher even suggest that the classroom isn't geared toward an education. I KNOW we will not solve the 'American Education System' here. I'm not even sure if it can be salvaged. However, taking an honest look at ourselves and what we do / contribute to this effort may help.
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Post by brophy on Mar 10, 2010 8:13:54 GMT -6
Vocational teachers are usually former or current industry practitioners.
What industry credentials are public school teachers bringing to the classroom to compel students to learn?
Are we teaching to THINK or BELIEVE in the classroom?
Before we get on a high-horse of "education" and the validity that folks need to jump on board with, maybe we first ought to examine if what we're doing is even productive.
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Post by brophy on Mar 9, 2010 13:44:41 GMT -6
what IS working in the classroom right now?
I doubt I'd ever hear a teacher ever say, "yeah, we need to do a better job of educating....", so I have to ask, WHAT is it that is working? What part of reading out of a lesson book, assigning homework, and grading tests is actually providing an edumacation (and not just drilling in answers)?
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