newhc
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Post by newhc on Apr 6, 2010 20:15:18 GMT -6
Hey Coaches,
Just wanted to get a good list of places you visited/or will visit this spring to watch spring practice.
Where did you? What did you get out of it that you will do this season?
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Post by coachalbert on Apr 7, 2010 5:00:01 GMT -6
USF with new Coach and Staff, Skip Holtz. Got to go on the field with QB Coach Peter Vaas who was at Notre Dame for a few year and helped Brady Quinn become an All American.
Also will be at the Nebraska Spring Game April 17. A couple of our Players from our School are commits there.
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Post by superpower on Apr 7, 2010 5:07:21 GMT -6
I am headed for Celina, TX, to visit with Coach Butch Ford and his staff about the 10-1 defense in late May.
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Post by Luther Van Dam on Apr 7, 2010 6:13:31 GMT -6
Our staff visited UGA for their clinic and will be heading to spend some time at South Carolina as well.
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newhc
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Post by newhc on Apr 7, 2010 7:32:24 GMT -6
We visited Wake Forest for a Spring Practice and the things that you walk away from it seeing how they break apart Physical and Mental Reps during practice. They would go from a 11 on 11 Scrimmage to Team Concepts using air, and getting kids to visualize coverage and what routes they should expect.
Also a great job breaking up the special teams postion. Used 1 coaches to coach the each of the following positions left side, right side, upbacks, long snapper and punter.
I know its hard to do some of that stuff at the high school but some of the stuff I think we can do.
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Post by brophy on Apr 7, 2010 7:34:56 GMT -6
Louisiana Techbrophyfootball.blogspot.com/search/label/Louisiana%20TechLearned: - *Reminded me why I enjoy coaching and the game
- *Ebbs and flows of interaction between coaches and players during multiple practices - how they handle players and situations (how they communicate)
- *SCIF / End technique on Fire Zones
- *Nuanced way of playing safeties and corners in quarters (and man)
- *Better run concepts out of Trips
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Post by davecisar on Apr 7, 2010 7:38:12 GMT -6
USF with new Coach and Staff, Skip Holtz. Got to go on the field with QB Coach Peter Vaas who was at Notre Dame for a few year and helped Brady Quinn become an All American. Also will be at the Nebraska Spring Game April 17. A couple of our Players from our School are commits there. Really? I only see one on the board, we get pretty up to date info on that here. NU has 4 commits and none from the same school: nebraska.scout.com/a.z?s=204&p=9&c=8&yr=2011Next time I see Barney Cotton, will have to let him know they have another one Went to 3 Spring Practices and 3 days of coaches clinics in Lincoln Learned how college position coaches are held accountable Learned how college coaches teach kids how to watch film Learned how NU runs it IZ and Power Series Lots more small stuff
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Post by coachdubyah on Apr 7, 2010 7:45:36 GMT -6
Went to Louisiana Tech. Good to see that the big boys struggle with the same things we struggle with. Not much difference between a High School Freshmen and College Freshmen. They will both drive you nuts. Also, it is always good to see that what you are teaching is exactly how D1 college coaches are teaching it. I always like to see player and coach interactions at this level.
I am going to try and attend an SMU spring practice early next week.
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Post by jgordon1 on Apr 7, 2010 8:10:07 GMT -6
I visited a local HS to pick up how they were teaching their cb's shuffle tech...going to DeMeo clinic next week and possibly to Navy this weekend (depending on weather and wifey)
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Post by barnone on Apr 7, 2010 9:09:31 GMT -6
Took myself and some kids up to Mizzou. Pretty good time... I am supposed to be heading up with another coach this summer to Nebraska to work a camp.
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Post by coachalbert on Apr 7, 2010 9:41:11 GMT -6
Dave, in reality no one is really a commit untill signing day! Try and stay up, by the way I will ask Bo why the NU is ducking Boise St. ;D
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Post by davecisar on Apr 7, 2010 10:12:52 GMT -6
Dave, in reality no one is really a commit untill signing day! Try and stay up, by the way I will ask Bo why the NU is ducking Boise St. ;D Verbal "commits" are reported here just like they are everywhere. Every commit NU got this year was on the board as a verbal, I guess this super secret one of yours is a program first Countryside High School in Florida must do it different and NU must do it different than every other school out there You dont have 2 "commits" to NU, your post is not accurate. Some would use other words to describe that. Im sure Bo spends a lot of time talking to you
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Post by gunrun on Apr 7, 2010 10:20:40 GMT -6
USF with new Coach and Staff, Skip Holtz. Got to go on the field with QB Coach Peter Vaas who was at Notre Dame for a few year and helped Brady Quinn become an All American. Also will be at the Nebraska Spring Game April 17. A couple of our Players from our School are commits there. Really? I only see one on the board, we get pretty up to date info on that here. NU has 4 commits and none from the same school: nebraska.scout.com/a.z?s=204&p=9&c=8&yr=2011Next time I see Barney Cotton, will have to let him know they have another one Went to 3 Spring Practices and 3 days of coaches clinics in Lincoln Learned how college position coaches are held accountable Learned how college coaches teach kids how to watch film Learned how NU runs it IZ and Power Series Lots more small stuff Coach Cisar, Do you mind sharing what they do to hold their position coaches accountable and how they teach their kids to watch film?
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Post by CoachDP on Apr 7, 2010 11:14:35 GMT -6
Visited UNC, NC State, and the state high school champs. Still have other places we'll visit throughout the summer.
--Dave
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Post by Luther Van Dam on Apr 7, 2010 11:30:30 GMT -6
I would also really appreciate what Cisar has to say with details about his post
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Post by davecisar on Apr 7, 2010 11:58:17 GMT -6
I would also really appreciate what Cisar has to say with details about his post Don't worry, they wont be like the infamous "QB footwork Post" someone failed to ever come through on. Coaches taking responsibility: Every position coach I sat in on refered to player mistakes as "in need of better coaching." Any time a player makes a mistake the position coach owns it. Pelini expects his position guys to be able to reach/teach/get a player to self motivate. What I got out of it is, if the coach needs to use a different method of reaching that kid, he better figure it out. Watching film with players: With Coach Eckler, LB Coach. Before anything starts: down, distance, field/boundary, personell 12- 21 etc and formation Then they look at backs of o-linemen- flat backs run, on heels pass. AMAZING how many DI linemen give that away- well coached teams. He asks the players to act like coaches. Ok Sean, the score is tied in the 3rd quarter, the other teams offense hasnt moved the ball real well so far, their defense is a little spotty. Ball is on their own 20 and it's 3rd and 28. They are in 11 personel etc and the offensive linemen are showing pass, what should we expect? Screens, short safe passes to get them in a position to get a descent punt off etc. Not anything risky, long passes, passes over the middle that could be picked off etc His defense would call a specific adjustment based on the information and the formation. HE makes the call and his anticipation of what the play would be ( his first time watching this game and he was about 80% accurate, I KID YOU NOT) and asks the player what his job was, pre snap. Coach Eckler is teaching the kids how to do his job, think the bigger picture, asking them to look for tells and then quizzing them once he makes the call. Pretty simple stuff, but it's like he's teaching them all to become DCs. Suh had mentioned that on a number of interviews, now I get it. A whole lot of whys.
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Post by coachalbert on Apr 7, 2010 12:25:44 GMT -6
;D Davey Boy, whats wrong. Because I answered the Footwork question in private does that make you mad. Or is it that Nebraska is ducking Boise State.. or that you just dont like the fact that a woman is coaching HS in Washington DC. Or maybe it is because you have never Coached Varsity High School Football and you feel juuust a little small. Or is it that 2 of our players are going to the Spring Game on the Invite of Bo? What ever it is Dave, you better pick up your game.. Because right now it is a Running Clock and I am about to Score again
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Post by gdf on Apr 7, 2010 12:35:43 GMT -6
Went and watched Central Mich. practice. The thing that I picked up was how important tempo at practice was. Under Butch Jones things moved at a break-neck speed. You couldn't follow all the things that were going on. With Enos, there was a lot more standing around, coaches didn't seem to be as intense, etc.
It reminded our staff of how important it is to set the pace and coach on the run to keep things moving for the kids.
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Post by Coach Huey on Apr 7, 2010 13:45:48 GMT -6
;D Davey Boy, whats wrong. Because I answered the Footwork question in private does that make you mad. Or is it that Nebraska is ducking Boise State.. or that you just dont like the fact that a woman is coaching HS in Washington DC. Or maybe it is because you have never Coached Varsity High School Football and you feel juuust a little small. Or is it that 2 of our players are going to the Spring Game on the Invite of Bo? What ever it is Dave, you better pick up your game.. Because right now it is a Running Clock and I am about to Score again i'm still curious as to the "footwork" answer myself... as i'm sure many of our users are. so, since albert doesn't care to share publicly, could the person that received the info perhaps share? creditiblity shouldn't have to be constantly questioned, although it appears it is.
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Post by wolfden12 on Apr 7, 2010 14:59:56 GMT -6
OSU-Just to see the hometown boys and how coaches work during a fast-paced, quick transition practice OU-offense and individuals drills Kentucky-special teams play Michigan State-special teams play
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Post by gunrun on Apr 7, 2010 16:17:49 GMT -6
I would also really appreciate what Cisar has to say with details about his post Don't worry, they wont be like the infamous "QB footwork Post" someone failed to ever come through on. Coaches taking responsibility: Every position coach I sat in on refered to player mistakes as "in need of better coaching." Any time a player makes a mistake the position coach owns it. Pelini expects his position guys to be able to reach/teach/get a player to self motivate. What I got out of it is, if the coach needs to use a different method of reaching that kid, he better figure it out. Watching film with players: With Coach Eckler, LB Coach. Before anything starts: down, distance, field/boundary, personell 12- 21 etc and formation Then they look at backs of o-linemen- flat backs run, on heels pass. AMAZING how many DI linemen give that away- well coached teams. He asks the players to act like coaches. Ok Sean, the score is tied in the 3rd quarter, the other teams offense hasnt moved the ball real well so far, their defense is a little spotty. Ball is on their own 20 and it's 3rd and 28. They are in 11 personel etc and the offensive linemen are showing pass, what should we expect? Screens, short safe passes to get them in a position to get a descent punt off etc. Not anything risky, long passes, passes over the middle that could be picked off etc His defense would call a specific adjustment based on the information and the formation. HE makes the call and his anticipation of what the play would be ( his first time watching this game and he was about 80% accurate, I KID YOU NOT) and asks the player what his job was, pre snap. Coach Eckler is teaching the kids how to do his job, think the bigger picture, asking them to look for tells and then quizzing them once he makes the call. Pretty simple stuff, but it's like he's teaching them all to become DCs. Suh had mentioned that on a number of interviews, now I get it. A whole lot of whys. Coach, thanks for sharing. I like the film-watching guidelines. Being able to sit in a position meeting is a pretty awesome learning experience; but not every school lets you do that anymore, unfortunately.
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Post by coachguy83 on Apr 7, 2010 17:24:00 GMT -6
I'm going to the clinic at Illinois this weekend. I don't know if I'll make any of the practices, but I will definently check out the session that the coaches do on the field discussing the drills they do with their guys. I'll probably also hit up their spring game on 4/24, my wife usually takes me for my birthday.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 7, 2010 17:28:44 GMT -6
Don't worry, they wont be like the infamous "QB footwork Post" someone failed to ever come through on. Coaches taking responsibility: Every position coach I sat in on refered to player mistakes as "in need of better coaching." Any time a player makes a mistake the position coach owns it. Pelini expects his position guys to be able to reach/teach/get a player to self motivate. What I got out of it is, if the coach needs to use a different method of reaching that kid, he better figure it out. Watching film with players: With Coach Eckler, LB Coach. Before anything starts: down, distance, field/boundary, personell 12- 21 etc and formation Then they look at backs of o-linemen- flat backs run, on heels pass. AMAZING how many DI linemen give that away- well coached teams. He asks the players to act like coaches. Ok Sean, the score is tied in the 3rd quarter, the other teams offense hasnt moved the ball real well so far, their defense is a little spotty. Ball is on their own 20 and it's 3rd and 28. They are in 11 personel etc and the offensive linemen are showing pass, what should we expect? Screens, short safe passes to get them in a position to get a descent punt off etc. Not anything risky, long passes, passes over the middle that could be picked off etc His defense would call a specific adjustment based on the information and the formation. HE makes the call and his anticipation of what the play would be ( his first time watching this game and he was about 80% accurate, I KID YOU NOT) and asks the player what his job was, pre snap. Coach Eckler is teaching the kids how to do his job, think the bigger picture, asking them to look for tells and then quizzing them once he makes the call. Pretty simple stuff, but it's like he's teaching them all to become DCs. Suh had mentioned that on a number of interviews, now I get it. A whole lot of whys. Coach, thanks for sharing. I like the film-watching guidelines. Being able to sit in a position meeting is a pretty awesome learning experience; but not every school lets you do that anymore, unfortunately. Coach, Sorry if I gave you that impression. Coach Eckler was teaching a group of maybe 35 of us how HE teaches his kids to watch fillm. Im not a tale teller , no one special.
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Post by dubber on Apr 7, 2010 20:43:35 GMT -6
I saw Indiana University......they are a pistol offense, and it IS more than a formation...........very cool.
The tidbit I stole is how they "over set the OT" on Quick screen.
It's like kick sliding to reach the DE, limiting depth and increaseing width of the DE......really keeps him out of the window.
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Post by smu92 on Apr 7, 2010 21:21:58 GMT -6
Went to watch 2 spring practices at Rice. Got to spend some time with Ronnie V. (O-Line Coach). Got a great idea for an offensive line circuit that he does during individual. Pretty excited about trying to implement it. Enjoyed watching them practice. They are very organized. They get a ton of reps.
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Post by realdawg on Apr 8, 2010 4:03:22 GMT -6
Leaving to go to East Carolina in a few hours. Hope to pick up some pass concept stuff.
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Post by wingtol on Apr 8, 2010 8:25:44 GMT -6
;D Davey Boy, whats wrong. Because I answered the Footwork question in private does that make you mad. Or is it that Nebraska is ducking Boise State.. or that you just dont like the fact that a woman is coaching HS in Washington DC. Or maybe it is because you have never Coached Varsity High School Football and you feel juuust a little small. Or is it that 2 of our players are going to the Spring Game on the Invite of Bo? What ever it is Dave, you better pick up your game.. Because right now it is a Running Clock and I am about to Score again Way to contribute to the discussion and keep it on the up and up. Maybe we should all post our credentials before we answer a question because the higher the level you coach at the smarter you must be.
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Post by Defcord on Apr 8, 2010 9:28:10 GMT -6
Went to watch 2 spring practices at Rice. Got to spend some time with Ronnie V. (O-Line Coach). Got a great idea for an offensive line circuit that he does during individual. Pretty excited about trying to implement it. Enjoyed watching them practice. They are very organized. They get a ton of reps. Wouldn't mind hearing more about this if you care to share.
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Post by smu92 on Apr 8, 2010 9:54:31 GMT -6
Went to watch 2 spring practices at Rice. Got to spend some time with Ronnie V. (O-Line Coach). Got a great idea for an offensive line circuit that he does during individual. Pretty excited about trying to implement it. Enjoyed watching them practice. They are very organized. They get a ton of reps. Wouldn't mind hearing more about this if you care to share. Coach, it wasn't earth-shattering, but it was something that I hadn't thought about. They didn't have a lot of individual time, so this is how Coach V made the most of it. At one point, he had a 10-minute block of time between two group sessions. He wanted to get a lot of work done, rather than just one or two drills, so here's what he did. Say he had 16 O-Linemen. He broke them into 8 groups of 2. Then he set out 8 different "stations" for them to work. Two stations could be a Set & Punch Drill. Two stations were a Mirror Drill. Two stations were a Push/Pull Drill. So forth & so on. He would just add stations and drills if he had more kids. This way every kid was working at the same time. They'd work for about 30 seconds at a time, Switch Roles (other partner works), and then rotate to the next station. That would take only about 8-9 minutes. They'd take a quick water break, and then they were off to the next group session of practice. Problems: 1) Kids have to be self-motivated. You can't watch everyone @ the same time. However, his kids did a pretty good job of working through the drills. 2) Kids have to know exactly what is expected in each drill. Solutions: 1) Coach V makes sure to have this session videotaped during practice, so he can watch it with his guys in meetings and point out any lack of effort/laziness that he sees. 2) Make sure you teach each drill thoroughly by name before you ever attempt this. That way you don't have to spend time explaining every time you do the circuit. Just run up to it and say "Alright I need 2 guys on "X" Drill, 2 guys on "Y" Drill, 2 guys on "Z" drill, etc... Ready....Go." One great thing about it is the self-coaching that will go on. Your guys will start holding each other accountable & coaching each other up. I also love the fact that you can get through 4 or 5 times as much work in the same amount of time. Not so sure how it will work out at the high school level, but I'm going to give it a shot. I think I'll have to do a good job of teaching drills this spring, so that this will be more successful when I implement it in the fall. I just kind of rambled here, but if you have any questions, let me know. I'll try to clear it up. Hope this helps, SMU92
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2010 10:12:23 GMT -6
smu92, thanks for the run down of the Rice drill stations. Great idea.
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