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Post by tiger46 on Apr 4, 2008 15:23:57 GMT -6
I'm sure you've seen it. But, one of my favorite football movies is "Friday Night Lights". It's not completely accurate. But, I have friends that played at both Permian High School and Dallas Carter; although not during the season written about in the book.
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Post by tiger46 on Dec 10, 2007 11:06:04 GMT -6
"SPEAKING OF MOSS- can we put to rest the idea that he "doesnt like to go over the middle"- he torched the Steelers over the middle several times yesterday."
Speaking of Moss, did anyone else laugh at Phil Simms when, after Randy Moss dropped that TD pass; Phil running through the replay, sagely came to the conclusion, "Randy Moss just doesn't like the high hard ones." rofl!
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Post by tiger46 on Feb 26, 2008 21:53:49 GMT -6
I agree with phantom. But, I'd kill for a dominant CB's and, I'm only a youth coach. The higher level I ever coached at; the more I'd want a dominant, B&R, CB.
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 4, 2008 22:40:45 GMT -6
Frankly, I think the whole issue is a bunch of bs. There is no magical formula. I wish there were. I'd bottle it and make a lot of money selling 'Increase Your Chances of Going Pro: How to Play Like a Black Person' to white kids and their parents. But, lets entertain the absurd. Long distance is different from sprinting. Sprinting is expensive in terms of calories, muscle output, etc... Think American musclecars, quarterhorse sprinting or, even dragsters. It's an expensive endeavor compared to thoroughbred racing, Le Mans or, even stock car racing. The lack of Black American long distance runners can be dismissed culturally. No one that I grew up with cared how long or far a person could run. It was all about speed. In Africa, endurance is valued. Maybe it has something to do with being more closely associated with a hunter/gather society. Maybe it doesn't. I don't know. I really don't care. It would be more fair to compare the black American sprinter to a black European sprinter than it would be to compare him to a black African sprinter. I really think people discount the black cultural experience of living in America. I think some of it is because it is not all pretty. No one really took Khalfie's suggestion of breeding seriously. It was a bit tongue in cheek. But, what if it was taken more seriously? Has anyone ever thought about the selective breeding that took place during slavery? People are so quick/reluctant to consider genetics. But, did anyone ever consider selective breeding, as a factor? It happened during slavery. What if the Hitler and the Third Reich had been given a little bit more time to develop the ultimate Arian? I'm not backing the theory of selective breeding. I'm just putting it out there as another turd to stack on the pile of bs. Again, I think the whole question is absurd. Honestly, I can't believe an institution of higher learning doesn't have better endeavors to spend its time on than the 'differences between races'. But, I'm not about to get on a soapbox about it. I think poor black(or, any other color) kids make poor players. It has nothing to do with their abilities as athletes. Their nutrition is horrible. Too many are not prepared to take their steps into the rites of passage into becoming a responsible male adult. Their work ethic is often bad. Being raised by single mothers that treat them like 'men of the house' makes them resentful towards male authority figures. Many are very emotionally immature. Many project their feelings of resentment about being rejected by their absent fathers onto male authority figures(read coach). Poor kids from single mother and 'grandma raised' households can be very difficult to work with. As a coach, I couldn't give less of a damn than I already do about what race or color my players are. I only care about how coachable they are and how they play. I can't believe I even wrote this much about the subject.
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 4, 2008 15:31:19 GMT -6
Phantom, I don't really think African-Americans and Africans have as much in common as far as nutrition, and body development, access to weight training, etc...
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 3, 2008 20:51:03 GMT -6
Doing my best at keeping it succint: White children have a wider variety of sports that they can play.
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 2, 2008 11:32:14 GMT -6
Yash, I read the entire thread. I know this is for your college paper. I don't think the conversation is negative. And, the question isn't flippant. Why does/would anyone care about the race of an athlete?
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 2, 2008 7:00:23 GMT -6
This question is going to sound flippant but, I don't mean it to be. Why does anyone even care about the race/ethnicity of an athlete?
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Post by tiger46 on Jun 21, 2007 7:06:37 GMT -6
I would go with the same method as coachjd. Our local fire station was more than willing to donate old hose.
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Post by tiger46 on Mar 28, 2008 7:23:52 GMT -6
Ted, That 'Y Stick' Pass is a killer! We loved it last season. I'm so glad I stole....err....learned it from you.
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Post by tiger46 on Jul 27, 2007 16:53:50 GMT -6
Brophy, how are those kids even allowed to play sports? And, is it hard to instill a winning attitude in them?
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Post by tiger46 on Jan 24, 2008 12:13:18 GMT -6
Wardogsaa, You posted that your program has become much more successful after adapting to the methods that it currently uses. Has your youth program become more successful, also? I'm not taking a shot at you or, anyone else. I'm asking out of genuine curiosity. In fact, I don't even know what terms that you would qualify as success. Is your HS staff in charge of an entire youth organization or/and the entire league? If your staff controls the entire league, do certain groups of youth coaches tend to do better than other groups within your league even though they all run basically the same stuff? i.e...Team A coaches most likely will win the championship every year. Team B coaches tend to have .500 seasons. Team C tends to have losing seasons. Is there a draft? Are teams divided by talent? Do they have to bear the burden of recruiting players?
BTW, if I were a HS HC, I'd want anybody within sight of a football to pick it up and run my program's system. I wouldn't care how old they were or what sex they were. I'd do anything I ethically could to make it so.
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Post by tiger46 on Jan 24, 2008 9:06:55 GMT -6
This subject seems to be spread across two threads. As a youth coach, my opinion is that it is a great thing for a HS program to get involved with youth programs. But, it is a bad thing for a HS program to dictate to a youth program.
It's really simple. If you want a son that looks like you, provide the seed, walk away and he'll look like you. If you want a child that looks like you and has your morals, outlook on life, background, sense of family, etc... you have to be there to provide for, guide and nurture that child.
In terms of coaching, a youth program isn't a whole lot different. Want us to look just like you? Give us the miniature size jerseys and helmets you wear and walk away. We'll look just like your team's mini-me's. I see it all the time. I live in Austin, Tx. Guess how many teams around here are named the Longhorns, look like the Longhorns but, damned sure don't play like the Longhorns. It's because coach Mack Brown and the Longhorns don't have a thing to do with them. They're just look-alikes and wanna-be's. There's no structure. You want a youth program to mirror your HS program you have to be there to nurture and support it. And, very importantly, you have to KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH A YOUTH PROGRAM.
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 30, 2007 13:33:44 GMT -6
coach orr.... not sure what you meant by "bounce pass". could you explain? A "bounce pass".
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Post by tiger46 on Mar 26, 2008 16:15:01 GMT -6
I certainly won't try to comment on any of the "pass" vs. "run" at HS level stuff. I'm only a youth coach and ya'll are way above me as coaches. But, this is something that I've observed. It probably doesn't matter whether kids in the schoolyards and backyards are practicing being Troy Aikman, Barry Sanders or, Jerry Rice because you can bet that none of them are out there practicing being Mike Munchak, Larry Allen or, Anthony Munoz. You're going to have to lay a foundation and build from somewhere. It's up to you on what you want to build. Without a decent o-line, all that stuff in the backfield is just a bunch of irrelevant, fancy prancing, anyhow.
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Post by tiger46 on Jun 12, 2007 10:09:08 GMT -6
Parents can only relate what they watch their son do from the stands to what they see on TV-a similar angle and no concept of the speed of the game. Most kids aren't fazed by the speed of high school football because that's the level at which they're playing. that is a real good point - the further away from the field you get, the easier it looks.I want to say that was something I heard Keith Jackson say during a game a couple of years ago. I'm just a youth coach. But, I've got to steal that Keith Jackson quote for my 'Parent Conduct' Letter and first Parents Meeting.
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Post by tiger46 on Mar 5, 2008 7:54:56 GMT -6
touchdowng, I'm just a youth coach. Some of the HS coaches here in Texas would have to answer your question. I didn't mean to sound misleading. I was thinking of it from a player's perspective. I grew up playing in a small West Texas 3A town- definitely not a big program. There was almost nothing that we couldn't have for our sports program- ANY sports program. But, football was- and, still is- king in West Texas. It wasn't as if no equipment was ever re-used. But, any new equipment needed was provided for. Nothing ever stayed around long enough to get old. All cleats were yours at the end of the year. In Jr. High, I had small feet. I had to have special ordered cleats and track shoes. No problem. In basketball, we received a new pair of practice shoes and leather Converse game shoes that had our school colors. They were ours at the end of the season- every season. They did keep the practice & game jerseys & warm-ups. But, when those looked a little too ragged for the coaches, they have them away to the players at the end of the season. All coaching apparel & equipment was provided for, also. Weight room was housed in its own large building next to the field house. Golf, baseball, track, whatever.... all provided for and nothing skimped on. It saddens me that there are states & districts that get away with not providing for their sports program. Why have sports if you're not going to fund it properly?
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Post by tiger46 on Mar 3, 2008 20:48:41 GMT -6
Maybe it's because I'm in Texas. But, I have no idea how some of your programs survive. And, ya'll strike me as some awesome coaches. It just seems so sad.
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 10, 2007 9:19:25 GMT -6
It's not a slogan. It's something I read on a coach's website. But, for me, it really captures the attitude that we had when playing in the defensive secondary. "I never claimed to be a nice guy. I'm a defensive back."
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 7, 2007 8:56:42 GMT -6
My friend's HS football team discouraged trash talk. So, when other teams trash talked them, the only way that they answered was to shrug their shoulders and say, "Can't whup me."
I decided to steal that for my youth team.
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Post by tiger46 on Feb 29, 2008 21:33:41 GMT -6
Thanks, coaches, I've been thinking of getting out of coaching. I've only been at it three years. I love working with the boys. But, the parents and the BS is getting to me. Your stories really motivate me!
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Post by tiger46 on Feb 27, 2008 10:27:18 GMT -6
Calling my players' families after the season ended and asking how the boys' grades were still coming along since they no longer had the added pressure of having to have good grades to play football. I found out that kids that used to fail no longer are. And, kids that were barely skating by have raised their grades- including a kid that had anger management issues so severely that he had to be removed from his home. He is now making 'A's & 'B's. Obviously, the kid had other help. But, his parents told me that my requirements to pass school and respect parents & teachers were the first in-roads to getting him under control. I only had 15 players finish the season. But, not one of them were failing school or getting into trouble at the time that I called almost two months after the season ended.
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Post by tiger46 on Feb 27, 2008 0:05:58 GMT -6
Coaches, Maybe I should have posted this in the youth forums. But, it may be applicable to coaches on any level. I coach in what would be considered an inner-city youth league in other cities. I do what I can to inspire my kids to realize that they can be anything that they want to be. There's nothing special about me. But, I try to be an example of what a positive male role model can accomplish in life. In all honesty, when I started coaching, I never thought the idea of coaching football to little kids could bend my mind towards such lofty pursuits in my own personal life. I know we as coaches have many inspirations. I see many threads that can attest to that. But, I don't see nearly as many threads about when players inspire us.... when they "get to you". And, I think that's one of the most rewarding factors of why I coach. I remember, as a player, the team bringing tears to the eyes of a tough-as-nails coach when we made a comeback win after hafltime on a bigger(large 3A vs. small 3A), much more talented team that had a coaching staff that he had issues with. And, we did it all for him. We didnt' even know the particulars- and, we didn't need to. Nobody was going to mistreat our coach and get away with it. In my three short years of coaching youth football, my players have given me so many moments of inspiration on and off the field. They drive me to be a better coach and person. In their own way, their actions and attitudes are worth more than what Gen. Patton, Sun Tzu, MLK or, Vince Lombardi could ever have said to inspire me. I just know other coaches, at one time or another, have to feel that.
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Post by tiger46 on Jul 30, 2007 12:40:23 GMT -6
I would you think that NYC, Chicago, Detroit and D.C. alone would have enough black population between them to keep Northern universities' recruiters interested. And, if you're going to make it a racial comparison, it wouldn't be valid to compare Southern black athletes against Northern white athletes. You would have to compare Southern white athletes to Northern white athletes and Southern black athletes to Northern black athletes.
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Post by tiger46 on Jul 25, 2007 10:22:58 GMT -6
Although a lot of kids from blue collar families play football, I would disagree that it's a blue collar sport. Football takes money. The more money poured into the program; the better it can be. There's probably no such thing as too much money, either. You put a poorly funded program up against a well funded program with great school backing and generous boosters, and you'll probably watch a train wreck for the poor school. Money and population have an affect; depending on the sport. Low/High population differential has less effect on sports that don't require as much support materials. i.e.... pads, balls, large facilities, etc... That's why rural, low population, and poor areas can produce top quality wrestlers and basketball players more readily than they can produce top quality football players. Think about basketball for a minute. There are three position. How many times have you seen a basketball team with a guards coach, a forwards coach, a center coach, OC, DC, etc...? Never. How about a wrestling team that needs a stadium, large outdoor practice field, large weight room facility, large locker rooms, buses just to carry the players' equipment, and a staff of coaches? Never. Football may generate a lot of money. But, it damned sure costs a lot of money, also.
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Post by tiger46 on Feb 16, 2008 8:26:07 GMT -6
LOL! If ya'll think H.S. asst. coaches can have it bad.
I’m a youth coach. I’ve been on the other side of this. I have two asst. coaches. Good guys. But, they just didn’t seem to catch on last season. I run the single wing offense. I have videos, books, urls, etc… available to my asst’s. I preach the SW. At the start of the season, I explain what their jobs are, their duties, what I expect. I felt like Will Smith talking to Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black II.
W.S.- The De-neurolizer. In a matter of moments transverse magneto energy will surge through your body, unlocking information that could be the key to earth’s very survival.” TLJ- Ohhhh, okay….(Points)What’s that thing? W.S.-(Pause)…... The De-neurolizer….(sigh)
That’s how I felt last season. Me- We run the SW. It’s got speed! It’s got power! It’s got deception! We can pass! I’ve got books! I’ve got DVD’s! It’s the very foundation of our offensive philosophy. Let’s all get on the same page. Sit down and I’ll chalk it up on the whiteboard. Any questions? Them- No. No questions! A week later during first practice. Them- Hey, Coach. There’s no QB! And, what’s that crazy, unbalanced formation they’re in called? Me- (Pause)….. It’s called the Single Wing..... (sigh)
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 10, 2007 9:51:36 GMT -6
coach: "What were you doing?!" player: "I thought I- " coach: "You thought?! I didn't tell you to think! Don't think! Just do what I tell you!"
player does exactly what the coach tells him and something goes wrong. Coach: "What were you thinking?!" player: ....(sigh)
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 7, 2007 7:25:46 GMT -6
NP. I understand. I grew up in West Texas. HS football is big out there. I guess I'm just excited about the prospect of finally getting to watch some HS football again. Last season, my youth team practiced on Friday nights. BTW, good luck to all of you coaches this year.
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 6, 2007 15:27:16 GMT -6
Well, dang. I figured at least one coach wouldn't mind me going to see their games. I'll probably be attending a some of Connally Cougars(4A HS) and Westview Middle School home games this year. But, I thought it would be fun to see other teams in town, also. And, travelling to a few of the outlying towns to watch games would probably be some "cool adventures" to my son.
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 6, 2007 9:27:57 GMT -6
Hiya, coaches, I see a that some of you guys coach football in Texas. If ya'll wouldn't mind, would some of you list what schools you coach at? I would like to take my 10yr old son to some high school or, even Jr. High football games this year. He loves football, too. I live in Austin so, if your team is in Austin or the hill country, I would like to see them play.
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