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Post by fkaboneyard on Apr 2, 2019 9:43:43 GMT -6
It wasn't really a speech but the best I ever experienced we went to play our hated rival at their field. We were great, they were awful and everybody knew it was going to be a bloodbath. Their HC even came over before the game and asked if we could go running clock from the start (which he declined). We kicked off and they took it to the house for 6. Our guys were super lazy, acting like they didn't care. Coaches hollering at kids on the sideline, screaming in their faces and they all had the expression like they were in line at the post office, just total apathy. At halftime we were down 21-0 and it was only going to get worse.
We went into the visitor locker room (their girls locker room). The home/visitor locker rooms were separated by one wall. It was totally silent in our locker room but you could hear them on the other side absolutely losing their minds. The insults were flying about how terrible we were, our guys were p*ssies, they were gonna nail our girlfriends that night, just anything & everything you can imagine. Our coaching staff didn't say a word the entire time, just stood there and you could see the energy building in their eyes. Just before it was time to go back out the HC said, "You're gonna let those sonsabitches talk about you like that?" We went out and destroyed them, I think we scored 63 in the second half, it was one of the most dominant performances I've ever seen. The coach's words became the team's motto and a bunch of them got t-shirts made that said, "You sonsabitches ain't talkin' about us like that."
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 25, 2019 19:53:05 GMT -6
Some great (and some hilarious) responses. I thought it would be winning games and collecting awards, it's actually helping kids grow up to be men of purpose. And like bignose said, when a former player comes to you years later and tells you that you helped him become the man he is today, there's nothing greater to me.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 21, 2019 7:25:12 GMT -6
That's an unbelievable blessing to have a kid like that.
And some of the best parts about him (IMO) - the other kids are going to get better going against him, they will never face anybody as good as him. He makes the coaches better because you begin looking at every detail because you know what he is capable of. Great players truly lift up players and coaches around them and make them better.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 12, 2019 8:23:00 GMT -6
fkaboneyard , How has the team been doing this season minus that one game?
They have been solid. They didn't throw their best pitcher but they threw their second, third and fourth best pitchers. My guys have been good so far this season but they played out of their minds - not a single error, our pitching was unbelievable (or their batting was terrible, I don't know) and our batting was outstanding. Everybody expected us to get rolled - even us. It was a league game and they were saving their ace for the other league powerhouse (we are probably number 3 in the league), it's a game they wanted to win.
It was a really fun game where the stars aligned in our favor. My wife is still icing herself. I told her to "trust the process".
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 11, 2019 12:07:54 GMT -6
In this instance I'd say it is intended to mean "We're not going to win many games but you're going to get good experience. Hopefully that experience will pay off in the future." More often than not it actually ends up meaning "I don't have anything valuable to say and hope this reassures you."
This is honestly what it felt like but all the kids repeating it kind of threw me off. This was a very good team that should have beaten us badly. They have a couple kids that are widely believed to be good enough to make it to the big show. My guys went into the game thinking they were playing with house money. I told them before the game, "Someday you're going to be watching MLB with your son, won't it be great to tell them about the time you went yard on the pitcher they're watching on TV?" Three of them did, it was awesome. The coach seemed like he had no idea what to say or do. But his guys were completely sold out on the whole "process" deal. Weird.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 11, 2019 11:08:28 GMT -6
Last week we played a team (baseball) that is typically very good. They have pretty strong pitching but my guys were absolutely bombing them. The whole time the coach and players were telling the pitcher, "Trust the process!" and "Process!" This went on for multiple relievers till we mercied them 18-0. Seriously, what does "trust the process" mean?
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 6, 2019 8:21:42 GMT -6
If you’re in area where it’s bad there isn’t a lot you can do. Obviously as coaches we do everything we can to make our program appealing and try to educate and be fair to our parents. Unfortunately the current generation of parents (at least here in Southern California) want instant gratification as much if not more than the current generation of kids. If they think their little Johnny is going to be more of a Star and earn a scholarship at another high school and somehow it won’t happen at yours they’ll leap at it. The programs that partake in poaching here in Southern California know this and send their low life street agents (usually 7-7 coaches or personal training guru types) to relay the message. IMO as a coach it’s best just to not get caught up in it. Coach the kids you’ve got and let the loyal ones know they’ve got a special place in your heart. I really do empathize with coaches that lose kids because of this. I’ve been on the wrong end of it before. To me it takes the fun out of coaching knowing schools just create all star teams and force every one else to eat their dust.
This x 1,000.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 5, 2019 11:27:12 GMT -6
Fedderations,athletic associations will not violate state and potentially federal law. But forget for a moment, they can't uphold the rules as is not really do anything about it as is. You should want to teach and work with the best players you can get.
I'm not sure you could pack more ignorance into this thread if you tried. Well done.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 5, 2019 7:30:46 GMT -6
I think the biggest thing is make your program something they want to be part of. Build solid relationships, work hard and have some fun. In some areas it’s part of the game. You are going to lose a few...kids are immature and parents are irrational. But I think it’s possiblr to build and keep a core group if you are running first class program and staying focused on that. Guys have been recruiting your wives and girl friends forever how do you keep them around?
I do something to her that would get me thrown in jail if I did it to a kid.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 4, 2019 12:30:28 GMT -6
In California the CIF has said, "Have at it, boys." There is nothing you can do except coach the kids you have in your program. Kids are not going to go on record to rat out a school that is courting them. What is the upside for the student? I've been at a couple schools where we had kids get poached. It's extremely frustrating and there is no relief.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 1, 2019 8:22:20 GMT -6
A lot of time the parents aren't unaware that their kid is a turd. In the case I described above the kid's parents said "he's the same way at home, we don't know what to do." They didn't have any hard feelings over me giving their son the boot.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 28, 2019 8:56:02 GMT -6
Let's see..... My wife went to hospital with a placental abruption first day of practice. We were installing a new offense and I am the HC and OC.....10 day hospital stay.....then bed rest for the entire time til son was born in October....we do well in scrimmages to give false hope....new AD, new teaching position so new challenges.....go 1-9. When O was good, D was bad and when D was good, O sucked type of year....fast forward to the offseason, so far personally 1) Had parents both have life threatening surgeries 2) Have spent some time in hospital with my son 3) Had my wife kick me out the house because I wasn't around enough (this is ongoing). 4) Had one of my better coaches quit to go pursue a playing career which he has no business doing......yeah I need a drink after typing this
You win.
Maybe you ought to take a hiatus from coaching?
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 28, 2019 8:51:49 GMT -6
As a JV HC I had a kid (sophomore) on the team that thought he was being funny but really was just negative. He was a terrible football player but we had to play him because we had very few kids on the team. I wanted to bench him but the varsity HC (head of the program) thought he would eventually be good and told me to play him. His reasoning was that the kid's older brother had played QB for him and he was really good.
The kid played defensive back and was good for 2-3 pass interference calls every game (and I realize it sounds like I'm exaggerating but it's the truth). As awful as that sounds, that wasn't his worst quality. He took immense pleasure in ripping a select group of his teammates and clowning them every chance he got. He tried to do it in a funny way but he was absolutely merciless. It went on all throughout practice, during games, during film review. A lot of kids absolutely hated him and a few wanted to quit because of him. He literally took the fun out of football for all of the coaching staff and most of his teammates. In spite of multiple conversations and discipline attempts with him he would not change. I wanted to boot him from the team but the varsity HC would not allow it. I've never hated a kid before but he got me close to it. The last game of the season the varsity HC made an appearance at the game and tore into me when he saw the kid on the sidelines, told me to put him in. The kid stood nearby and said, "Told ya you should be playing me, dumbass." In that moment the HC finally understood it and told the kid to go sit down. After the game he told him to never come out for football again.
I coached the kid in varsity baseball the following Spring. At the beginning of the season I laid out the ground rules for him and let him know he was already on the edge of a crumbling cliff before the season even started. He was okay for a while but our third game into the season he started verbally abusing me from the dugout while I coached third. I immediately dismissed him from the dugout and told him to go sit with his parents. After the game I spoke to him and his parents. They were apologetic, mom was bawling, the kid was standing there stonefaced like he was waiting in line at the post office. I ejected him from the team on the spot. The following year he came out again and I told him, "I have a hair trigger on you. Once incident, ONE SINGLE INCIDENT, and you're gone." I figured he would be past tense in a week but he kept his mouth shut the whole year and finished.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 26, 2019 8:16:44 GMT -6
What window rules are worth the effort? I have known several coaches that had a "no walking off the field after practice" rule; I would consider that to be broken window. Punishment was 20 push ups on the spot for violators, wasnt much effort to enforce.
Just my opinion but I've always thought that rule is ridiculous. My agreement with the kid is that he shows up on time and gives 100% during practice and I'll do the same. Once practice is over we're off the clock. The time after our practices is typically a rich time to talk to kids - whether it's about a play/concept they're struggling with or something going on in their personal life. If they're sprinting off the field that opportunity is gone.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 25, 2019 11:15:09 GMT -6
This problem will only get worse. As long as we have political leaders on the stump pushing to legalize this and have it accepted in the main stream. Its pretty sad when we view cigarettes worse than MJ. The stigma with tobacco is much worse than that of dope. As we fight to ban one we are fighting to legalize the other! This is what I can tell you, I never made an arrest of a person who caused the death of another human because he/she smoked a cigarette, I have made that arrest because of pot..... Dying from pot or dying in a drug deal?
Driving while impaired?
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 25, 2019 10:13:33 GMT -6
I don't care about sleeves, arm bands, stuff like that. I guess the opposite of the broken window theory is that if a kid "feels" like he is a better football player because he is wearing that stuff maybe he'll work harder like a football player should.
I was in a program where a bunch of the kids would do their own thing with their practice uniforms - one black/one white cleat, no jersey at all - just shoulder pads, arms not through the armhole of the jersey (just their head through and the rest tucked under the shoulder pad so their belly and most of their shoulder pads showed), ribbons dangling off the sides of their hips like they were flag football players and a host of other stupid stuff. This behavior was limited to a couple of skill kids that were great athletes but were extremely selfish and lazy. I'm not dumb enough to think that the stuff caused their laziness/selfishness but it was a symptom of it. The HC tolerated it - "I have bigger things to worry about" but it did tend to trickle down to the younger kids that wanted to emulate them. I hated it. I coached OL/DL, some of my guys started doing it and I put a stop to it immediately. I always held them to a higher standard. It bugged a couple of them at first but eventually they got over it. They eventually saw that the guys doing it were just trying to draw attention to themselves. Without exception, the guys that were doing it were the guys that quit on us when things really mattered. They were more concerned about being individuals than being part of something bigger than themselves.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 25, 2019 8:59:58 GMT -6
Saddle soap?
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 21, 2019 14:52:28 GMT -6
I coached in a private Christian school where there were strict rules on how you could wear your hair. In every rendering of Jesus I’ve ever seen he had long hair.
In every rendering of Jesus I've ever seen he looks like a white guy from 1968.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 21, 2019 9:49:59 GMT -6
I coached in a public school where nobody cared. I coached in a private Christian school where there were strict rules on how you could wear your hair. Then a kid (tailback/cornerback) enrolled in the school and he, his dad & brothers all had long dreads. This wasn't the kind of kid that a football coach looks at and says, "Sorry, we don't like your hair, you can't play here." The HC went to the admin and said, "It's part of his Jamaican religious heritage so we can't discriminate." The school made an exception and within two years had to completely scrap the hair rules because they got tired of defending it. Some of the hair cuts on kids now at the school look absolutely ridiculous and I imagine the school really regrets their decision but it's hair, who cares? As a kid I wore a mullet, a mohawk, a flat top, a buzz cut and everything in between. I turned out sorta okay and my issues aren't because of how I wore my hair in high school.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 19, 2019 13:28:09 GMT -6
We had a player's mom selling vape pens out of the trunk of her car to kids in the school, including football players. And this was at a private Christian school.
My lips to God's ears (no pun intended) some of those schools have the worst drug problems b/c the kids have money. I know the private school in our area is rumored to be the worst. B/c the kids have money & b/c usually the consequences are minimal b/c the school needs the tuition dollars. The day of the strict private school nun is long gone I'm afraid.
Totally agree. This kid's mom put the school in a really, really bad spot. I was impressed by the school's response, they sacked up and made a full disclosure, they really took it on the chin. You are certainly right about the kids having the $$ to do what they want. This school has multiple foreign exchange students that are absolutely loaded. Kids driving cars that are $150k+, walking around with thousands of dollars in their pockets, it's nuts.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 19, 2019 9:34:00 GMT -6
That's a heckuva situation to be with it being legal in your state. The biggest problem we have run into with parents is that tobacco has always been a big thing here. Some of our parents actually think vaping is a good alternative to not smoking cigarettes since that what they have done their whole lives. The synthetic THC is extremely powerful and also there is CBD oil which is another form of the THC that's found in weed is being made into edibles that look just like regular candy ex: gummy worms, bears, peach rings etc... We have had kids sent to the ER, neighboring school districts have had kids die. I agree 100% with you though, until parents recognize what is going on and actually take initiative in stopping it then nothing really changes. No doubt. We have confiscated vape pens from kids & tell them they cannot have them back b/c they are underage & actually had parents common and pick them up for them. If they are getting the OK from home not much a video from some stranger is going to do to change their minds. Besides, they are already addicted and parents either condone or turn the other way (unofficially condoning). This is a problem in every HS in America, no doubt.
We had a player's mom selling vape pens out of the trunk of her car to kids in the school, including football players. And this was at a private Christian school.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 18, 2019 16:35:35 GMT -6
Every time I slept at school we had an absolute blast but I got about two hours sleep on a cafe table. So if you’re looking for team bonding it’s probably a great idea. If you’re looking to maximize their football learning then not so much. Lock some hallway doors at least to keep them semi-contained, if they have the whole run of the school it’ll be uncontrollable.
This x 100.
I was at a school where we did it one during the summer. Had a lot of football related games, ate a lot of good food and the kids thought it was the greatest thing ever. Capture the flag into the wee hours, slip-n-slides on the field, just boys running around being boys. It even fun for the coaches. Kids had so much fun that we literally had a couple kids come out for football because they wanted to be a part of it.
We also hosted a 7 on 7 tournament and invited a couple of the other teams to throw out tents. The kids had a blast but they literally got 1-2 hours of sleep (if that). We'd always get our asses handed to us in the tournament. They'd always be great the first half the day but not worth shooting the second half. Still, it's something the kids really looked forward to every year.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 14, 2019 10:29:01 GMT -6
One of the funnier things you hear is the euphoria coaches have when an x-NFL player wants to coach. Exactly! I was on a staff once that had 5 ex-nfl guys, and an additional 2 who played big time FBS but never made it to the league. Good guys, some could coach others couldn't, but I think as coaches most of us realize that playing and coaching are two different things. That being written, having those guys on staff sure attracted a LOT of talent to the school
I've coached against three teams that had ex-NFL'ers as their HC and none of them could coach high school ball to save their life. It's always funny to see them come in with a big splash and act like they're going to maul everybody only to get destroyed. There's a local team that is HC'd by a former NFL linebacker and he came in making bold predictions about how he was going to make his school the linebacker Mecca, he's on twitter & instagram all day/every day telling people how awesome his program & kids are. Meanwhile his team is bad and his linebackers are awful. I watched a few of their games and they were a joke.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 13, 2019 17:15:59 GMT -6
I knew a school that ran the Wing-T. Their O-line coach was 5'7, 150lbs and had never played a down at line. He was a quarterback in high school and ran the wing-t, he knew the responsibility of every guy on the field. He learned the shoulder blocking principles and was an outstanding line coach.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 11, 2019 13:10:59 GMT -6
I'm in agreement with the "get a big crowd" and it will make it special for the players. Many years back I was a middle school coach for a Jr/Sr high school and I ran the endzone cam for the varsity games. The school did a good job by pumping up the games during the week to the entire student body. At the games they would have goofy halftime games that students would participate in on the field, they had a teacher Gong Show, they had a T-shirt cannon, etc. It was nuts how many kids they got there. I remember one game in particular where we were locked in a dogfight and the crowd was going crazy. On the final play the opposing team was kicking a field goal to take the lead by 2. To this day I firmly believe that the kid hooked it because our crowd was such a distraction. When he missed the entire stands emptied onto the field. It was absolutely electric, better than any college or pro game I've ever been to. A few weeks ago I was at Home Depot and I bumped into one of the kids that played in that game - he was with his own son. Our conversation immediately went to that game and how fun it was.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Feb 4, 2019 8:52:27 GMT -6
Did the Pats really take away the run though? Gurley only touched the ball 10 times. Only like twice in the first half. I thought BB was brilliant last night, but McVay for all his "offensive genius" crapped the bed.
Rams' OL had a tough night too.
I thought this, too. Rams' OL was getting manhandled.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Jan 31, 2019 13:10:04 GMT -6
They claim to help expose your child to coaches at smaller schools and to get them scholarships. NSCA will hire any Tom, Dick, or Harry off the streets. These guys have no experience in coaching, talent evaluation and few (if any) relationships with coaches. There are some smaller, boutique places that actually do a good job of it but they are few. There's a guy out in southern California that helped a friend of my son. I think he's a one man operation, though, so I don't think he works in volume the way outfits like NSCA do. If you want his info I can ask my son to get it from his friend.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Jan 31, 2019 12:29:14 GMT -6
What does a company like this do, exactly,
It takes money from delusional parents.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Jan 28, 2019 9:28:25 GMT -6
By 11:00 pm on Friday the HC has the game film uploaded. A couple of us will stay up until 12:30-1:00 to watch it.
At 8:00 we meet at the school. The kids with injuries see the trainer, the rest go through a stretching, lite lift and lite cardio program put on by our S&C guy. The coaches sit around BS'ing about the game we just played and the one we're about to play.
At 9:30 we watch the film as a team. By 11:00 kids are gone.
From 11:00 to 11:30-12:00 we plan the coming week's practice.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Jan 23, 2019 16:59:45 GMT -6
1 - Set up a corporation in the state you're in, register it with the Secretary of State. 2 - Hold a board meeting, approve nonprofit status 3 - File for a FEIN with the IRS
4 - File for application for exemption for tax with the IRS
If you're talking about paying volunteers a stipend instead of them receiving reimbursements for expenses you should tread lightly. You're well on the way to having them as employees or at least independent contractors (think W-2 or 1099's). People don't want to lay out $$ for a nonprofit and then end up with a tax burden for their troubles.
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