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Post by mnike23 on Feb 8, 2017 7:31:59 GMT -6
posted in other spot, but will here too... jimmies n joes brother....x an o doesnt matter if you cant______ your not gonna run spread with no qb your not gonna run the I with a small OL your not gonna run 4 man front with 3 DL kids find out who you have personnel wise, what they do best and then fit scheme around that. from the sounds of it, you dont have alot of kids. in my years of coaching, your going to need a ball control offense and play smart, simple, sound defense. keep away from the other team, shorten the game to possessions, not time. run the play clock to 1 and snap, type of game. make it a 10 possession game. with that being said, im not sure you know exactly what your getting yourself into. the things you have written above all seem like things that need to be done, but honestly.....the head coach is CEO, President, COO, fundraiser, field painter, laundry guy, order of equipment, equipment guy, grass mower, stat keeper, hudl operator, community liason, head of rectuiting, dean of discipline, dad to all, father of none. your looking at your life being pretty much flipped upside down in terms of time committment, caring for a program, fixing what seems to be broken. your home life will be turned around as well. kiss personal time good bye. you will be texting kids, talking to coaches, watching game film, turning laundry over, mowing the field, for weeks on end. friday night games turn into saturday morning films to sunday gameplans for a solid august thru november. throw in offseason workouts, both 3 and 4 day variety from jaunary to july and now you are a football coach fulltime and a husband/father/golfer/pickup hoops/business man part time. you will be selecting coaches, debating with them for hours on end about what to do with joey who was a jerk in class today and whether or not you should run the wing T and have a shot or hunh like those guys in oregon. if it were just coaching monday thru friday from 3-6 and playing friday nights, would def be the best job ever.... but its not that. its alot more. more than I have said here... this is just a taste..... being the HC isnt all its cracked up to be, but also is 1 of the greatest things I have ever, ever done. and the hardest.... good luck. I agree will all you said, but some of those coaching duties you speak of are rarities. I know there are some, but it's very unlikely that high school coaches are going to be required to mow the grass and line fields. where do you coach at, because I want to come there. Ive been a head coach or coordinator for the last 13 years. every place I have been someone on the football staff has taken care of both of those things. Ive mowed more practice fields and gamefields than I care to speak of. as far as lining the field, again, where do yo coach at. I want to go there. other than 2 seasons of coaching on turf, the football staff lines the field. whos going to do it? the athletic director? or some kids in a PE class? i took care of my fields for this reason. when a team walks into my stadium, what is the first thing they see? the field. the stands, the locker rooms. if its a pile of crap, that measn you dont give a dam about it and I can bet your on field play is similar. if its nice, taken care of, that means you do give a dam and the on the field is probably the same. now again, jimmies n joes play that part. but at least I could be respected for having the nicest turf in the area.
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 7, 2017 13:01:53 GMT -6
your in a tough boat brother.
im not saying dont jump in, but it will be with both feet. and, its a tough gig. with 5 wins in 6 years it sounds like its really tough.
from the sounds of it, the school system either doenst care for a winner or it isnt a priority.
whats the home crowds like? who gets that money? if its football, then they care. i can almost promise its the athletic dept. they keep all the revune to pay for other sports... whats the dominnant sport at school? theres 1 at every school, wrestling, girls basketball, baseball, soccer, etc... maybe try and get with that coach and see what they are doing to be as good as they are?
tough job it sounds like.
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 7, 2017 12:34:00 GMT -6
posted in other spot, but will here too...
jimmies n joes brother....x an o doesnt matter if you cant______
your not gonna run spread with no qb your not gonna run the I with a small OL your not gonna run 4 man front with 3 DL kids
find out who you have personnel wise, what they do best and then fit scheme around that. from the sounds of it, you dont have alot of kids. in my years of coaching, your going to need a ball control offense and play smart, simple, sound defense. keep away from the other team, shorten the game to possessions, not time. run the play clock to 1 and snap, type of game. make it a 10 possession game.
with that being said, im not sure you know exactly what your getting yourself into. the things you have written above all seem like things that need to be done, but honestly.....the head coach is CEO, President, COO, fundraiser, field painter, laundry guy, order of equipment, equipment guy, grass mower, stat keeper, hudl operator, community liason, head of rectuiting, dean of discipline, dad to all, father of none. your looking at your life being pretty much flipped upside down in terms of time committment, caring for a program, fixing what seems to be broken. your home life will be turned around as well. kiss personal time good bye. you will be texting kids, talking to coaches, watching game film, turning laundry over, mowing the field, for weeks on end. friday night games turn into saturday morning films to sunday gameplans for a solid august thru november. throw in offseason workouts, both 3 and 4 day variety from jaunary to july and now you are a football coach fulltime and a husband/father/golfer/pickup hoops/business man part time. you will be selecting coaches, debating with them for hours on end about what to do with joey who was a jerk in class today and whether or not you should run the wing T and have a shot or hunh like those guys in oregon.
if it were just coaching monday thru friday from 3-6 and playing friday nights, would def be the best job ever.... but its not that. its alot more. more than I have said here... this is just a taste.....
being the HC isnt all its cracked up to be, but also is 1 of the greatest things I have ever, ever done. and the hardest....
good luck.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 31, 2017 12:56:13 GMT -6
I remember lining up for equipment hand out my freshman year. Of course, most of us are morons at this point, can't follow directions, all that jazz. One of our coaches goes, "man, dealing with these kids is the ultimate pain." Then our DC goes, "Then you've never rubbed one out using sandpaper." that sir, is the line of the year!!! i will be stealing that. forever. hahaha
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 27, 2017 11:02:03 GMT -6
lol uh ok when i say cant catch, i should have said statistically he drops more than he catches. or cant throw should be, he misses a lot of wide open wr on short, medium and long routes. he does a great hand off, but cant throw bubble screen very accurately. his drop back footwork is decent, but to throw a slant is a struggle. those arent extreme, those are real examples. if kid cant throw well, you dont run a passing offense. but maybe he is a runner or can option pitch the ball. is that too extreme too? wr cant catch well, but man he can cover. he should be a DB. oline are small, maybe power isnt a good offense, but maybe angle blocks(wing t type down blocking) or option blocking (5 blocking 4 or 3) is more realistic. skill is or should be relative to scheme. Yes, and you are also describing kids that won't play period in most cases. I'm talking about the kids you have starting and playing in whatever system you employ. I also agree that you aren't going to take a 6'4" gunslinger and force him to play as an option QB in the flexbone. We are referencing 2 different concepts. 18 hours ago option1 said: I'm talking about the generalization that a scheme cannot be run because of the types of players. It is referenced often and several times on this thread. For example, in terms of covering ground, a D1 defender needs to occupy an area quickly because the other guy is also a D1 athlete. Not so much at the HS level. this is what you said. scheme and generalization. now your back tracking on what you said. I am answering your question. if you said something different, please tell us. and those guys that wont play, you must work at a super star 22 D1 or D2 school kids, because we all have some kids that cant catch, cant block, not fast and they still see some time on the field. at least at my school now, and every school i have ever coached at, we have sat at the meeting room table and tried to figure out how to get billy off the field, but bobby and johnny behind him are worse. at least billy has heart....
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 27, 2017 9:35:07 GMT -6
I got my first coaching job at my alma mater with the man who came in as HC when I was a Senior. He's a good man, was a good coach, but he changed offenses too much to my way of thinking. At various times he ran Run 'n Shoot, Slot-I, two-TEs with Flanker and split backs, Power-I, T, Slot-T, and Veer. Had two winning seasons in 11 years. In the last "big school" league I coached in there was a school who changed offenses virtually every year - went from Wing-T to Spread to Pro-I to Veer. And their Sub-Varsity teams ran something other than Varsity and different from each other. They struggled to have success, in fact Varsity recently went through six losing seasons in a row. Philosophically I believe you have got to have a system and Vertical Continuity in order to have a chance to be consistently successful. Adjust, yes. Adapt, yes. Change, no. i completely agree. we will run the football, pound teams into the dirt. now lets figure out how we are going to do it. do we have the tailback? do we have the oline? what other skill positions do we have that need to be apart of our philosophy? i coached 1 year at a school that was a various formation based offense for a couple years. they ran alot of i, and a little bit of spread. they ran power out of I formation alot. so as I came in to take the OC job, i explained to the HC that i run power too, out of the gun-1 back power- and its just as successfull as under center. with all the various motions and ways to block power, it worked very very well. coach asked me several times to line up in the I and run power. we did and was good, however he did tell me after the season that the way we ran the ball out of the spread and pounded people was much more impressive than the year before they ran I power as their base play. that is a philosophy thing, but you have to have the jimmies n joes to do it. we could have ran wing t or whatever the hell we wanted, that many good players. not all teams are created equally. adapt to who you have, adjust your schemes, and can be an overhual.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 27, 2017 9:27:36 GMT -6
i dont think this is a generalization, i think its fact. kids cant catch, why you throwing the ball? qb cant throw, same thing. you dont run read option with a frail qb, that wont make the read or cant run/take a hit. you dont run I formation pound the rock, with small OL kids, no fullback etc. so yes skill is relative to scheme. square peg round hole philosophy. you change O/D to fit your kids. dont force it, it wont work. maybe in spurts, but in the long term no. Most of your examples are to the extreme side. lol uh ok when i say cant catch, i should have said statistically he drops more than he catches. or cant throw should be, he misses a lot of wide open wr on short, medium and long routes. he does a great hand off, but cant throw bubble screen very accurately. his drop back footwork is decent, but to throw a slant is a struggle. those arent extreme, those are real examples. if kid cant throw well, you dont run a passing offense. but maybe he is a runner or can option pitch the ball. is that too extreme too? wr cant catch well, but man he can cover. he should be a DB. oline are small, maybe power isnt a good offense, but maybe angle blocks(wing t type down blocking) or option blocking (5 blocking 4 or 3) is more realistic. skill is or should be relative to scheme.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 27, 2017 8:41:33 GMT -6
i dont think this is a generalization, i think its fact. kids cant catch, why you throwing the ball? qb cant throw, same thing. you dont run read option with a frail qb, that wont make the read or cant run/take a hit. you dont run I formation pound the rock, with small OL kids, no fullback etc. so yes skill is relative to scheme. square peg round hole philosophy. you change O/D to fit your kids. dont force it, it wont work. maybe in spurts, but in the long term no.
So you change your offense (and-or defense) every year depending on your personnel?
What about your Sub-Varsity teams - do they run whatever fits them in a given season?
not necessarily. but to a degree yes. the sub varsity teams are different. the 9th grade team, run what works for you. this last fall they ran single wing. had some decent linemen, a rb that could go, a couple good blocking fb kids and a nice qb. we were not going to force spread run on them, it wouldnt have worked. now they could have ran the wing t or some pro I stuff. but the 9th grade coaches know single wing. on defense they ran a bastardized version of what we did, but in premise it was the same thing. to be perfectly honest, the HC took some single wing stuff and included it in our spread run game. was a nice package. a full scale change no, but additions/subtractions to your schemes based off of the kids. and there could be a full scale change with some transfers, upcomers, etc.... not going to hold down the 1800 yd rb that moved into my school by keeping the 5 wide package going. just like an in game adjustment you make, you make an offseason adjustment to scheme based off of who you have. last yr my qb graduated, we were 2x2 spread. 50 50 run pass. cant force a new qb in that spot, as the jv qb wasnt the same type of kid. the incoming 9th grader was though. so they were going to run my spread run/pass offense. varsity wise, we were going to pistol triple option with best 4 athletes in our ball carrier spots(qb, rb, wings/slots). i didnt have very good oline kids coming back, but I had 2 that were tough and smart. they were the strong side and would flip sides. this was a full scale change out of necessity. get the athletes ball in space. 9th grade team would not be doing this, until they moved up in a year or 2. never got to see it to fruition, thats another story.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 27, 2017 7:58:23 GMT -6
Relative to what?
If you're talking about age-experience (HS compared to college, or college to professional), then no.
I'm talking about the generalization that a scheme cannot be run because of the types of players. It is referenced often and several times on this thread. For example, in terms of covering ground, a D1 defender needs to occupy an area quickly because the other guy is also a D1 athlete. Not so much at the HS level. i dont think this is a generalization, i think its fact. kids cant catch, why you throwing the ball? qb cant throw, same thing. you dont run read option with a frail qb, that wont make the read or cant run/take a hit. you dont run I formation pound the rock, with small OL kids, no fullback etc. so yes skill is relative to scheme. square peg round hole philosophy. you change O/D to fit your kids. dont force it, it wont work. maybe in spurts, but in the long term no.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 23, 2017 13:06:08 GMT -6
got 1 to add.
at a famous "coach of the year" clinic, quite a few years back. a guy from the high school state champion studs, was speaking. a room full, i mean full, like 250 people full. everyone had their note pads and such. you know the drill. its a high school coach, most of us are in the same boat as this guy, dont make squat for cash. spend most of our weak suppplement on the kids anyways, etc. etc... here we go....
so fellas, thanks for havin me and this gonna be a good time. basically I aint got no power point, no handouts, no real script. im just gonna talk to yall about what we do on offense. hmmm---ok, i guess. so he gets out the overhead projector and draws up 2x2 spread....
here guys is what we do. we call this play go deep. see the 1 guy on the left, we tell him---go deep. the next dude, we call him 2, he----goes deep on the other side, well you guessed it 1 and 2 both----go deep. so there u have it questions? coach--what happens if you see 1 high safety---we just tell the boys to run fast and go deep. coach, whats the read for the qb vs a 2 high safety thats playing the apex to the RB side, well buddy, good question---i tell the qb to slang tha ball as far as he can and 1 goes and gets it. coach--trips? yall run trips? man i tell ya, we dont. this is it--- coach--what about rb reads, check down, slip screens, who does he read to block if he stays in? good qustion man,,,we tell him to block anyone that comes in and dont miss. but we tell the qb, man throw that thang deep!!! coach--do you run comebacks? what if its cover 4? posts, corners, do you change the routes??? naw man, we do this---go deep.
i promise to god it was 45 min of this---a full 150 people just laughed and listened. a good 50 to 100 people was pissed and asked so many questions that it kept it going...
so now, we run 2x2, i tell the OC come on man, just GO DEEP. and we laugh like idiots about how dumb this thing was. lmao.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 17, 2017 12:19:37 GMT -6
high school ball is turning into college mentality. win at all costs, regardless. win and keep job, to hell with getting kids to school or teaching young men about being an adult. would die to have what my coach had,,,,,35 yrs at 1 school, losing record in that span(dont want that part(only by like 10 wins or so)), win games everyones happy, winning season even better, lose games-get em next time coach, losing seasons--have a good offseason and recharge and get better. where are those jobs at? That is my dream right there... to find a place and spend decades there, building it up. The first guy I ever coached under, who just retired a year ago, had 35 years at his school and retired with a record right at .500 and a handful of nice playoff runs. He was great. There were people in the community who were critical of him, just like anywhere else, but no one who mattered paid any mind to them. My hometown had a legend like that who retired before I was born, too. My uncle played for him. He coached at that school for 25 years and was beloved by everybody--so much so that the town took up a collection and surprised him with a new car as his retirement gift at his last game. He had a lot of really strong 8+ seasons early on and a few playoff spots, but retired with a record right at .500, too. The men who played for him, or just the students he had in class, would have taken a bullet for him, though. You don't see many chances for careers like that now. New principals want "their guys" if you're not winning as much as they think you should. When that legend in my hometown retired, it was because his school was consolidated. The one that opened up the next year floundered through something like 6 coaches in the first 14 years after he was gone, many of them very good coaches who went on to success at other places. coach, I promise im not making this up. the HC job i held for past 3 seasons (before this past one) when I took it, within 2 months MY high school head coach retired, mid of year. the principal was my algebra teacher in high school and something like 25 people i went to school with all worked at my old high school. several of them called/facebooked, etc and asked me to come home and take over for coach. i seriously thought about it, quitting a job i just took to take over my dream job. replace the guy that spent 35 yrs as head coach and carry on what that crazy old bastard taught me. within 18 months, summer before the school year started (2 yrs later) they consolidated to 1 school in town and asked the guy that took over(another former player, like 6 years removed from playing) to step down and be on the other school(rival school too, which I despise more than anything in the world and hate the color purple because that was their color) asst coach. so glad I didnt take the job, but dam....all i have wanted for 10yrs is to be that old man still at the same school and have been for years and years... pipe dream now....
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 17, 2017 10:28:30 GMT -6
in high school? where is that! i want that gig, no dam doubt about that. in florida, if you got grandfathered in, you still can have a professional services contract(continuing contract). if you change counties or came in after 2012 i think, you are an annual employee and will never be able to get a continuing contract again. every administrator/county admin will tell you that your teaching job and your coaching job are not tied together. BS.... Nobody said High School. There are College Coaches on here as well. In College you need 5 years to recruit the "right" kind of player. In Virginia HS football, Private Schools may issue multiple-year contracts if they choose (I HAD one). Public Schools don't! In either event - you take a position with an Administration that is "realistic" enough to realize that you must build from a "sound foundation", and that it MAY take time (if they pressure you to win the first year - don't consider the position)! I took over six losing programs = in 4 we won the first year (including one State Championship), and in one we broke even in the first year, and in the other we went on a long winning streak midway thru the second year. Been there & done that! yep. took over a 125 yr old school, perinnial winner. ol red, the principal didnt hire me first applied, hired another dude. i stayed on as his OC. good guy, would coach for him any day he called me, in any part of the country and we only worked together 1 year. he got fired and she appointed me head coach. said if she knew how much passion, etc i would have gotten job. she left in june, I was fired in october by a new regime. fast forward 5 years took over a door mat as HC principal moved to new school in july of that year next guy was awesome, he was too good for our school 2 years later he is a supt of another county new principal and....new AD fire me after 3 seasons. high school ball is turning into college mentality. win at all costs, regardless. win and keep job, to hell with getting kids to school or teaching young men about being an adult. would die to have what my coach had,,,,,35 yrs at 1 school, losing record in that span(dont want that part(only by like 10 wins or so)), win games everyones happy, winning season even better, lose games-get em next time coach, losing seasons--have a good offseason and recharge and get better. where are those jobs at?
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 17, 2017 10:05:50 GMT -6
There are no more "Five year plans." Guys are getting fired after three now. arnold, the key word in your question is "major" (rebuilding project). I think it's vital you show improvement and that you demonstrate a vision, a plan for how to make the program successful. If it's a major rebuild, it may not be possible to win first year. In fact you may take a step back in record while laying your foundation. There are a hell of a lot of coaches out there today with "5 Year Contracts". They may get fired after 3 years, but they will get paid for 5!!! in high school? where is that! i want that gig, no dam doubt about that. in florida, if you got grandfathered in, you still can have a professional services contract(continuing contract). if you change counties or came in after 2012 i think, you are an annual employee and will never be able to get a continuing contract again. every administrator/county admin will tell you that your teaching job and your coaching job are not tied together. BS....
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 17, 2017 9:00:56 GMT -6
if you can, then do so. DC this past year on a brand new staff taking over a 1-9,2-8, 3-7 previous 3 years.
we come in, again 100% brand new to school. 1 holdover was a volunteer for 1 season. everyone else is new. went 6-4 made playoffs for 2nd time in schools 15 yr history. we won on discipline, organization, a great plan so to speak, alot of hard work.
my previous stop as a HC. took a doormat school(75 wins in 25 years doormat). previous guy went 1-9 in his only season, guy before him was there 6 yrs as HC and 8/9 as asst. his best record was 5-5. 3 yr run of 4-6,5-5,4-6 was best run in since early 80s. if you can believe that. we went 2-8 and won our exhib game (for a 3rd) to start season. you would have thought we won the superbowl that game. kids dancing on the 50, the whole 9. more about organization, getting buy in, foundational things. create your structure. create your building blocks of the program. what are you going to be about. wins will come at some point. went 3-7 the next fall, and had 3 super kids who would return for senior and junior yrs the next season and I thought for sure we would win 5,6 games. fell apart, coaching issues more than likely, underperformed(although we had a fantastic january to august off season, qb who is a stud at a juco, had 450 yds of offense in spring game good) went 1-9, some serious on field issues, you know when the mind falls behind the heart and they care so much and want to fight after every game because they all knew how hard we worked for 3 years type things. new principal retired ad 5 year plan was out the door, right along with me.
if you get 5yrs, you better make the most of years 3-5. that will be about all you get if not. win all you can! anytime you can!
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 13, 2017 12:37:35 GMT -6
steve was always dressed so nice on friday. his jersey tucked in, pants always pressed, hair had just enough gel in it. lol johnny played a great wedge buster. stats dont tell a lie. wait, he didnt, never mind. but kick off team wouldnt be very good without him!! (coach we put the ball inthe endzone, johnny never made a play, shhhhhhh)
always a positive with every kid. i love the videos the kids make when they know they are not very good and on the sidelines. lol those are awesome and keep it in perspective for most of the team.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 11, 2017 11:59:27 GMT -6
V.. Before the ball is thrown, wide receiver A88 moves four yardsdownfield directly toward and in front of the defender, B1. At this spot, B1 pushes A88, who then uses his hands to contact B1. RULING: Team A foul, offensive pass interference, if the legal forward pass is beyond the neutral zone. Penalty—15 yards from the previous spot ball was at 2. so according to this, it was inside the buffer zone. just sayin, i think it was illegal too but defense didnt help any by grabbing onto him and further making the guy going over the top(who the hell teaches that technique as correct??? in a nick saban defense even yet??) is what it is. couple years back when ND did it, it was why did the call it? now its why didnt they call it? 2 times in that game as well, 1 time was worse than the other and wasnt called. shrugs
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 11, 2017 11:48:40 GMT -6
50k a year, straight out of high school? If I didn't have enough skill to be in the NFL but, enough to make a decent living playing sports, I'd certainly take that job. Not to mention that there's probably quite a lot of D1 2nd & 3rd stringers with crappy degree plans that realize that they're not destined to go to the NFL. Why not leave school and try something different that may hone your skills through another venue while getting paid? I really hope it works out for them. I would love for there to be an organization that may, eventually, help break some of the power of the NCAA. I'd imagine that D3 & D2 schools would start to feel the pinch before the D1 powers would, however. and by the sounds of it, its only july august. probably start camp in june ish
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 11, 2017 11:09:13 GMT -6
read it this morning on the scoop. here is a question.
how long can the players play in the league? so its for guys around college ages. 3 years or so.
some guys, and why wouldnt you, lets play july august for 50k for 20yrs, have a side gig, and thats what i do. and dont tell me you wouldnt take your teaching salary of roughly 50k and work 2 months a year. straight faced liar.
you can live on 50k, most of us do anyways.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 10, 2017 8:46:16 GMT -6
with all the flack the refs from ND game a few years ago, not a chance in hell they call that PI. our area officials association, resident old timer that tells everyone what they did wrong on sat morning(great guy actually) says at every HC meeting in the summer/start of fall camp, "I would tell my guys on fridays, you get 2 flags all game....once you throw your 2nd, im taking the yella hankey and your done for the game, so you better make it a good un". i truly wish he was still running the show. you could easily throw a flag on every single play, HS, College, Pro. without a doubt there is holding every play. PI is such a judgement call, if only all refs followed the 2 flag rule, games wouldnt take 3 hrs.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 10, 2017 8:38:52 GMT -6
why not pull the chip kelly/john harbaugh move. hold them all and dont get picked. FG to tie and play over time.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 6, 2017 10:00:00 GMT -6
i hear u. i just dont like that the privates and publics play in same division. at least if you and i are in equal terms of getting kids in, we stand a chance. but those privates that offer up the world vs my title 1 school that has 97% free lunch dont stand a snowballs chance. but i hear u There are plenty of public schools that offer up the world now too, they just do it by bending the rules. oh im sure. hard to offer up things you just flat out dont have or will never, ever able to have. high school sports have been pussified by parents of this generation and by giving everyone a trophy. for some reason the 30 to 45 yr old moms n dads all think their kids are D1 players and admin that think they are colleges and change coaches every 3 years because of wins and losses and not seeing the character you have developed, kids you have gotten to college, etc.... thats another post/rant.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 6, 2017 8:08:36 GMT -6
cant stand img and what it stands for. Florida is screwed up in how private schools are all in the public school league. private schools openly recruit kids. st thomas, bishop moore, jacksonville bolles, to name a few. but then they play the publics all season long and in the title games. its pretty unfair for any program really. but,,,, open enrollment starts july 1. which will be a complete chit storm. they already changed the rules on "following a coach". now a kid can go wherever his coach goes. nobody turns people in on this, as the rule now says "previous involvement". open enrollment, kids can go across 5,6,7 school zones to go play football, transfer back to play basketball, transfer again to play baseball....heck, they can go from county to county as well. how this is right, is beyond me. You must not be in south florida because down here, the public schools are sometimes worse. It's actually easier for them to recruit because no money is involved. Only a few schools like St Thomas can bring kids in with no cost. i hear u. i just dont like that the privates and publics play in same division. at least if you and i are in equal terms of getting kids in, we stand a chance. but those privates that offer up the world vs my title 1 school that has 97% free lunch dont stand a snowballs chance. but i hear u
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 5, 2017 12:52:36 GMT -6
pandora has a clean version. my school system cpu, when i hit pandora it will only play the clean site. if i log in on my phone and use the school wifi, again only clean versions of any of it. makes things easy. i normally use the gangster weight room station or the weight room hard rock station. but then kids start dancing and i turn it off. hate that part.. at practice we have instrumentals pretty much on the whole practice. except for teach time in group. rest it is on and loud. dancing=updowns, more dancing=full length gassers. happens 1 or 2 times then they want to beat the kid up. lol
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 4, 2017 7:59:01 GMT -6
cant stand img and what it stands for. Florida is screwed up in how private schools are all in the public school league. private schools openly recruit kids. st thomas, bishop moore, jacksonville bolles, to name a few. but then they play the publics all season long and in the title games. its pretty unfair for any program really. but,,,, open enrollment starts july 1. which will be a complete chit storm. they already changed the rules on "following a coach". now a kid can go wherever his coach goes. nobody turns people in on this, as the rule now says "previous involvement". open enrollment, kids can go across 5,6,7 school zones to go play football, transfer back to play basketball, transfer again to play baseball....heck, they can go from county to county as well. how this is right, is beyond me.
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Post by mnike23 on Dec 15, 2016 8:49:53 GMT -6
envious of this^^^^ i coach in FL right now, some of the most incredible athletes i have ever seen do some things that you cannot coach. some of the best, most underpaid guys around. scheme, technique, the whole 9. not sure why some of us/them dont leave. other than its 12/15 and 82 degrees and sunny out right now....so thats the trade off i guess
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Post by mnike23 on Dec 14, 2016 7:11:20 GMT -6
The part that would suck the most about those big money HC jobs is the nights during the week where you are admin on duty. During football you have to be there for all the thursday night sub varsity games, if you have no girls coordinator you have to be there for monday/tuesday night volleyball games, and once the basketball season starts you have to be there for those. During basketball season all through the winter you are admin on duty for those, then track meets, baseball games, wrestling tournaments, soccer games, and anything else you have. You have to be there for booster club meetings, and you are basically there for any of the other sports activities on campus. That, plus you don't get a real summer break,and I'm saying no thanks. To me, I'll find a nice coordinator gig with no second sport and a nice teaching set up, and ride that until a HC job pops up that I can't say no too. and thats part of the reason they get paid 100k plus. not going to pay you 100k just for a 11 week regular season and 4 games in the playoffs. now im sure thats the majority of it, but there has to be some things coming back to the school to show why they are paying you that much. i dont know of many states other than texas that pay coordinators anything significant. Ive been a coordinator in 3 states and didnt get a thing extra than the guy that coached 9th grade ball for a 6 week season.... right now I make more than the head coach, as this is his 1st year in that pay grade and this is my 16th year at the highest step. now thats some EFFED up chit....
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Post by mnike23 on Dec 14, 2016 7:05:46 GMT -6
good lord, does everyone in katy isd make 100k or what? wow. alot of oil being passed around there, im sure. lol
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Post by mnike23 on Dec 13, 2016 9:18:42 GMT -6
in florida they did away with continuing contracts for some odd reason everyone voted on letting their teaching speak for themselves. which i have no issue with, except unless you currently have a CC, you can never get one again(until someone changes it, again). also if you have a CC, and move counties, you lose it and go back to annual contract. lost mine when I left a county to go be a HC. worked for a great AD and then principal got moved. his replacement, was awesome. 2 years later they wouldnt give the pay raise he deserved(took a chit school academically and made us respectable). he left and AD retired.....wheres that going----new guys come in and Im 88 out the gate! lol
its tough everywhere for sure. cant imagine it getting any easier either....
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Post by mnike23 on Dec 13, 2016 7:53:26 GMT -6
Not to mention you don't just go and get one of those jobs easily assistants start off making as low as mid to high $30's coaching 3 sports, driving a bus, and teaching a full load in small towns. It takes years to work your way up to one of those big dollar jobs. A lot of guys are half-way through their career or towards the end by the time they get there. I know there's exceptions sometimes, but I still know a lot of good coaches in their late 30's to early 40's that still haven't even got a crack at a coordinator or head coach job. That's a good point. There are actually a few smaller districts that pay assistants better than those larger districts plus have better benefits. I remember some coaches on here discussing the work schedule that was posted a while back of a Texas High School Staff. Now some of you realize why the majority work such long hours. Imagine this, it takes 15 games to get to the state title game. That's 15 weeks plus a bye week, at least one scrimmage. Practice this year started on August 1st for most of the state. Not only are you working during the season but every assistant has at least another sport to coach, sometimes two, plus still work offseason. Then we have 6 weeks of summer strength and conditioning. It's a year round job. isnt it like that everywhere? only time we take off is after the playoffs to the new year. start january as soon as we get back to school. will work jan-april, take fridays and 1 week for spring break off. may is spring football take memorial til end of school off(about 7 days in reality) june, july 4 days a week with 1 week off for the 4th of july(unless its saturday then its thurs monday off) aug 1 starts fall camp. i wouldnt or couldnt imagine it any other way, if you want to be a playoff team.
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Post by mnike23 on Dec 13, 2016 7:47:45 GMT -6
most of those guys, my guess is, you have 2-3 seasons to get it figured out. if not, your looking for a new job. but, in 2-3 seasons at 100k, you just made more than i did in 5-6 seasons. im sure the pressure is intense, but even at the school I was just the HC at(won 6 games in 3 years) there was pressure there too. changing the culture, trying to turn the under 6ft squad into something better, getting kids into school, etc, etc, sure would like a chance to see what it was like to be compensated for the time spent doing the job. Getting a HC'ing job in Texas is very difficult and competitive. Often there are over 100 applicants for every HC job. Also remember that at the larger districts they require a masters degree with admin certification. That weeds out quite a few. oh im sure its pretty competitive. and the admin thing is similar to what they do in floridas panhandle. get alot of good coaches there, but they spend 2, 3 years and leave. normally. local school here(in florida) went 1-9 this fall. had over 130 applicants. so I hear you on the difficulties and competitivness. head coach pay is awful in the whole state. other than those I said that coach in some areas of the panhandle that get admin pay, its between 2-6k TOPS in the state. which is unbelievable.... i moved 1x and came back, just because i missed the warm fla sun, lol....nothing like beaches, beers, bikinis for 10 months a year. oh and the football is pretty dam good too.
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