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Post by mnike23 on Nov 12, 2019 6:48:16 GMT -6
ive been on staffs that meet on sundays after church, and ones that meet saturday while its fresh in your head still. as a HC, i have been saturday guy. want both coordinators there(im one) and anyone else that wants input on monday to fridays. if you didnt come saturday to get the plan going, why would you say, hey run this on friday night? current staff Im on, the DC hates meeting.... so saturday morning, he and his guys watch friday night, tells them grade it on your own if you want, i will let you know what I think and the plan for next week, sunday night sometime... it blows my mind. except I found out, he wants to pencil and paper it all, instead of using hudl reports and, doesnt want anyone to know that he doesnt like watching film "i can watch things 1 or 2 times and get a feel for waht they are doing".... blows my mind to be that arrogant/stupid..... O we meet saturday til its done, ususally 730 to 1130 So how did the D do for you this season? 2 of the guys coaching are talking about not coaching for him. when it mattered, like the conference championship game and possible playoff berth, with 2 weeks to prep,,,,,they worked on pass game stuff because he like the qb and thought he would be a threat. (hudl scouting says they were 81 % run in the 6 games we had broken down). the rb had 253 carries on the season(25 per game). but we rarely did inside run periods. 4 of our 6 major prep days they worked on skelly pass concepts.... i told the entire staff it was a mistake, i know the stud rb(coached him when he was a 9th grader and,,,, I watch film). he had 156 yds, the qb rushed for 144 yds, we were embarassed at home. offense ran 17 plays in the first half.... that was a culmination of the end of the season. except in the final game vs a stud powerhouse, shot gun chuck n duck 50+ times a game, they end up holding them to 13 pts. smh....
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Post by mnike23 on Nov 5, 2019 10:49:23 GMT -6
ive been on staffs that meet on sundays after church, and ones that meet saturday while its fresh in your head still. as a HC, i have been saturday guy. want both coordinators there(im one) and anyone else that wants input on monday to fridays. if you didnt come saturday to get the plan going, why would you say, hey run this on friday night?
current staff Im on, the DC hates meeting.... so saturday morning, he and his guys watch friday night, tells them grade it on your own if you want, i will let you know what I think and the plan for next week, sunday night sometime... it blows my mind. except I found out, he wants to pencil and paper it all, instead of using hudl reports and, doesnt want anyone to know that he doesnt like watching film "i can watch things 1 or 2 times and get a feel for waht they are doing".... blows my mind to be that arrogant/stupid.....
O we meet saturday til its done, ususally 730 to 1130
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Post by mnike23 on Aug 23, 2019 10:24:38 GMT -6
vertical raise alot less cut than anyone we have ever dealt with.
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Post by mnike23 on Aug 22, 2019 5:49:32 GMT -6
What if you are a small school with no JV? We have a varsity and a 7,8,9 modified. We have 24 but @ 10 are not "scout worthy" even. you have a 5 man sled? i would have the OL drive that sucker til the cows come home. and have used it to simulate the Dfront. it was difficult, but with limited bodies, id say something is better than nothing. have also put 12,13,guys on defense vs 1 offense to simulate speed, an extra defender or 2 means boys got to work that much harder to get open, find the man to block, etc.... if I had 24 dudes, man we would be in the absolute best shape of any team in the country. especially if 10 are not even scout guys. in shape, and know everything about the other team, tough one man, for sure.
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Post by mnike23 on Aug 20, 2019 11:56:19 GMT -6
run practices together. at some point those jv kids will be varsity kids and need to be coached by those varsity guys and hear their voice.
when its scout o, use jv kids vs 1 defense. and jv defense can go work on run fits, pass drops, etc when its scout d, use jv kids vs 1 offense and jv offense can go work on plays on air, bags, etc
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Post by mnike23 on Aug 20, 2019 11:52:57 GMT -6
we meet on saturday, if we didnt get film by the afternoon, i would start asking other teams besides who im playing, for their tape. and when they want to trade film on monday night, i would decline it. and try to hang half a hunnet on em. thats crap,
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Post by mnike23 on Apr 9, 2019 11:21:48 GMT -6
similar to your punch video.
sideline footage, the defense about to sack my qb, he rolls out of it and gets the ball punched out, opponets best player picks it up and rumbling for the TD, so my qb tries to trip him(15 yd penalty but no TD.) it was a horrible attempt, so 1 of their kids comes from behind and blindsides my qb when he gets up, our best ol was on his way and he blindsides that kid. my qb gets up and is holding team mates back, being that he knew what was about to ensure.
refs eject qb, the best player from them and the blindside D player. well we had no actual footage of it from sideline. you saw some of it, but never any of the blindside hits or the trip attempt. plus, the white hat was the ejector, but never saw any of it, he was upfield for whatever reason. the sideline guys sprinting to the endzone ahead of the play thinking it was sure fire TD the back judge was the ONLY GUY WHO COULD HAVE SEEN ANYTHING, was the guy who said he saw punches thrown, from 40 yards away. end zone copy shows him running after the play(which is how I know all this too), his flag drops out of his pocket, he stops and picks it up, misses the entire play, all of it happened so fast, but he sprints down an when they are talking about seeing any punches, NOBODY SAW IT, EXCEPT THE GUY BENT OVER PICKING UP THE FLAG.
we sent the video the state nobody recieved an ejection. and since, when those refs see me, i know its gonna be a long ass night.
lol
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Post by mnike23 on Apr 2, 2019 10:36:54 GMT -6
Mine was when I was a head baseball coach. It was my first year. We sucked. They sucked the few years before I got there too. We were playing a top team in the league at their place. When we got there, I met with their coach to get the game ball and exchange line ups. We chatted for a bit. Normal stuff. All of our woes and what not. When I went back over to our kids, I called them up and gave them the speech. I said "Guys let me tell you something. I went over there to get the game ball. Their coach and I were chatting and he was telling me how good his kids were and all their returning all conference guys. He just kept telling me how good they were. But you know what else he said? (Pause) He said he felt sorry for me...But I looked him in the eye and said 'you feel sorry for me? Why, we are about to kick your asss!" I just walked away without saying anything else. We played lights out and did kick their assses. But that guy never said one word about that. He was too busy telling me about how bad his team was. That was 14 years ago and just a couple years ago I ran into an old player and he told me he never forgot that. I didn't have the heart to tell him it was all BS. sometimes a little fabrication goes a long way!!! love it, keep these coming. i think about some of the stuff I have said and it seems everyone has a few good ones!
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Post by mnike23 on Apr 2, 2019 9:03:29 GMT -6
couple real good ones, but the one that stands out most
2nd year school, 1st varsity year. won 5 games and qualified for playoffs as a 16 seed. we go to a perinnial powerhouse and lose 28-7. after we walking off the field, devestated because of the great year we had, i scooped up a good handfull of wet grass/turf and put it in my pocket. knowing in a year, it would be a reminder to not feel that way ever again. so the next year, we played a lot of close games and really played well. won 7 games and made playoffs. the team that won th conference (beat us 24-21 on late FG) we have in the first round at their place.
so the pregame speech the HC gave(i was an OC at the time) wasnt enough. the kids didnt feel very motivated, lets just say that. so,,, I had that old grass/dirt from the year before in a zip lock bag in my pocket. more of a reminder for myself to call a better game and think about how bad I felt for only putting 7 on the board, etc....self motivation. so were gathered up behind the banner the cheerleaders were holding, kids are getting each other pumped up and talking about revenge, etc... so i came up and told my guys to gather round and pulled out the grass/dirt zip lock. asked em yall know what this is? someone knew right away, they saw me take it the year before. after some choice words about our opponent and dreams we all have, etc..... dumped the ziplock in my hand and told em we were about to eat this teams dreams and $hit out the prior years heartbreak. kids went absolute bonkers nuts, broke the banner and beat the 3rd seed by 2 tds in a huge upset.
11 years later i talk to several of those kids still and they talk about it all the time....
i, personally, didnt take a good dump for about 4 days after.
it worked, lol so it was worth it
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Post by mnike23 on Apr 2, 2019 8:51:15 GMT -6
Best all time pregame speech, ever: The Old HC was getting the boys revved up to play a team with a cocky new HC in the league who said that he was going to beat everybody. Picture this: We are in the girls locker room as the visiting team. He is on roll, really laying it on heavy with gestures to boot. Finally he says: "We're gonna $hit thunder and rain lightning". As he said it his clip board caught a row of overhead 8' fluorescent bulbs, and they exploded, showering him and the front row with sparks and glass! The kids eyes looked like dinner plates!Early on, we went down 14-0 only to score 44 unanswered. The game got so physical that the attending paramedic wanted to stop it. The head official had to have him escorted off of the field! that is fantastic!!!!!!!
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 14, 2019 11:50:22 GMT -6
Hey mnike23 , Let's work together! You are right on target. And I won't "tear down" the current staff that is there. I don't work there anymore, just breaks my heart when kids that grew up in our junior high and underclassmen text me and say how much they miss me/us. In response to eagleoc , your college coach got a bonus if you guys had high enough GPA, so there's that... Also, kids showing up on time, doing the work, going to practice, etc...NOTHING ABOUT THAT SAYS CULTURE! THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO DO! And please don't give me the, "They are 16 year old kids, never know what they are going to do." Here is how we handled a kid that consistently was late, failed class, etc....we cut him! Why...Because that is what the REAL WORLD will do! If you want to see that as "culture", fine. That was merely the standard. Again, we did nothing different in the weight room, the practice field, etc. than anyone else is doing in America. We trained just like you did, coached hard, but loved them at the end of day. Again, not wasting time on the buzz word "culture/mantra/motto"... I am merely giving my .02 and experience about being 13-1 and being 2-8. Look, I'll be honest, I am the coach that prides himself on the X's & O's, and trying to win every whiteboard discussion, and please don't give me the "It's not the whiteboard, it's the kids." If I can get my kid to be the free hitter on the board AND on game night, then I win. Please don't give me the "Jimmies and Joes" speech. If I can have one more guy to tackle or 2 on 1 against your stud WR, I can lay my head down at night knowing I won before the game is played. I guess what I am so interested in, why do people spend time on culture/rah-rah/leadership manuals, when it could be spent on football stuff...? My point - How many times have we got to game night and the kid is confused and coach is pissed, and we start pointing fingers (and you know we have ALL been there)...Willing to bet it has ALOT to do with, SOME dudes were more worried about "culture/rah-rah" than teaching football in January-February-March. It drives me insane when a coach says K.I.S.S. ---- PLEASE STOP! Am I wrong in saying that when coaches use that, that is a cop out? Shouldn't coaches be using their "culture" time to study the game with staff members, instead of "Choosing draft teams for our offseason conditioning program" Again, food for thought. And yes, I still the irony of me "wasting time" by even typing this, but I really want to engage on the discussion of this. Thanks again guys! Love the discussion. im in, lets go! lol!!!
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 14, 2019 11:13:29 GMT -6
In response to eagleoc , Here is what I agree with you about... Trust. But, with some reservations. Yes, we all want our roster to believe in us as coaches, but they can believe in us without the rah-rah, culture, win one for the gipper speech. However, I am not doing anything different than you are in your program, and in all reality, we are probably doing ALOT less when it comes to all the rah-rah/culture stuff. Example - Yesterday, we installed tags off RPO on offense and another strong & weak blitz on defense, while some of our opponents (who we haven't lost to in 5 years) tweeted out that they were doing some leadership manual, trust falls, and whatever other stuff. We...were doing FOOTBALL! Yes, these opponents will beat us one day, but for now, in March, we are trying to beat them on the field. Have never seen a conference championship/playoff win/gold ball handed out for winning the culture fight. Just finished up year 12 in this business, and I have been 13-1 and I have been 2-8 in my career, and here is the difference I notice... The 13-1 year, yes we had 3 MID-MAJOR FBS kids (and I know that makes a difference), but we did very little when it came to the whole culture thing. We did the same drills, same lifts, same film study everyone does, but devoted our time as coaches to the office and to the players getting better in the weight room and on the field! All the leadership manual/ropes course stuff, we saw as a time that could be spent on something else, ya know like...FOOTBALL! The 2-8 year, and yes, we still had 1 MID-MAJOR FBS kid, we spent more freaking time on culture and leadership manuals than we did studying the game, thus I got my butt out of there. Now... Again, respectfully disagree. My kids can watch the same amount of film, do less sprints, do less squats, less time at the field-house, and not have to hear the word "culture", and still believe they can win. You're down 18-0, and YOUR KID excites the team...Again, has nothing to do with your coaches. I still believe that is kid led. You're telling me that going 0-10/2-8, you don't need to spend more time on X's & O's? Come on now. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to run into Friday night with only IZ, OZ, Counter and one front, one coverage, and one blitz and hope for the best. I am going to give my kids a chance with scheme, if we get beat, ok. But, I am not going to walk off the field saying, "I wish I had more tools in my toolbox." Again, thank you all for the responses. This has been a healthy discussion. I look forward to reading more. i wont argue with what your saying about the tool belt. those lean years, i schemed harder than ever to get us just 1 more win. but, regardless, those are culture things you guys have created as hard workers. call it mentality, or desire or just who you are, it is culture.
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 14, 2019 11:07:40 GMT -6
As we've alluded to already, I think a lot of this discussion really just boils down to semantics. OP has coached at places with good "culture," but he doesn't like the idea of using the word "culture" to describe that, nor did they preach it. They still had it and sustained it, though. To him, "culture" seems to be a showy, feel-good thing with stunts and team-building activities and other nonsense that get attention for the coaches, but are of questionable benefit. I get that. What I propose is to look at the two extremes here and ask yourself: which coach is likely to win with equal raw natural talent? Coach A is a "culture" coach who doens't know jack about Xs and Os. His coaches are solid role models who have strong relationships with the players. The players love football and lift almost religiously. His staff, while clueless about the latest spread RPO quadruple options people are running, are good at coaching fundamentals of blocking, tackling, ball security, etc. He does the goofy teambuilding activities and speaks in Tony Robbins' motivational quotes like some goofy internet meme generator. However, their schemes are extremely simplistic and pretty easy to scheme against: they sit in one formation and run the same 3 plays over and over all night long. Coach B is an "Xs and Os" coach. He can give you a clinic on everything under the sun. He installs an extremely complex offense with every adjustment under the sun and 1,001 defensive fronts and coverages a year. Opponents absolutely hate scouting and trying to gameplan against what he's doing. However, he doesn't have much team discipline. Techniques are sloppy, especially on the OL and in the secondary. Players lift when they feel like it so his players are weak, slow, and soft. Coaches berate players for mistakes and his numbers are low, with players and parents blaming each other and the coaches for every mistake or loss, so nobody wants to step up and take responsibility. Now, imagine those coaches take their teams (with equal genetics) into a game against each other on Friday night. You have to place a large bet on one team. Which would it be? simple the "culture" coach. his 3 plays and simplistic approach will defeat the un disciplined, lazy, weak, slow, soft group. the coaches will get mad because they worked on stopping ISO all week. they will use facemelter defense and kids cannot line up in it because they dont care about coach.... coach A squad kids care that the coaches care and will run thru the wall for him. hes "lame" and pretty outdated with his coaching attire, but, he loves his boys and they love him back. lol
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 14, 2019 10:48:03 GMT -6
Thank you for all the responses. There have been some great ones! Again, just looking for insight on the topic at hand, not trying to start a war. Here is part 2 of the discussion - For me, Here is what started this discussion, we took a program that had NEVER been to the state championship, and the staff before us had built somewhat of a previous established "culture",but within 2 years of new staff (us) being there, we were playing for a state title, thus I bring this point. When we came in, HC made one thing clear, "We are to win football games, not establish culture." Thus, we got on the white board, broke down the film, and made X's & O's our priority. We didn't do anything different than anyone else in America is doing as it relates to "culture"/"discipline". 2 years ago we played in the state championship in the highest classification in our state, year after that we made the quarterfinals (Elite 8), after that year AND due to the success we have had, every coach left for other opportunities, assistants became coordinators, coordinators became head coaches, and head coach left for a better program. **This is not a pat on the back/look at me discussion** I left after that season, Now, this said program went 3-7 this year, AGAIN AFTER two years ago going to the state finals with an entirely different staff this year. I have kids still text me saying how much they miss us, etc. I do not have a dog in the fight as I am not with this program any longer and this is NOT some vendetta I am on, merely hate it for the kids who grew up with lots of success WITHOUT the whole buzz word of motto, culture, etc. and they are getting beat over the head with it daily. To answer some of your questions/comments... Yes, we used the word "culture", "discipline", etc. but we never did anything to the likes of team building activities that you see all over social media now a days. And the comment about our guys just loved playing ball, it had NOTHING to do with us as coaches, it had everything to do with the kids wanted to be at the field-house. Sure, we made it a welcoming environment as coaches, but never did we keep them there just to keep them there, such as rope courses, leadership council, etc. It was weight room, film room, practice, game night, go home. To me, that is not "culture", that is doing what you're suppose to do to WIN games. For some of you, you might call that "culture", to us, it wasn't. That was the job. Another thought for you - We have heard, "It's not the X's & O's, it's the Jimmies and Joes.".....I DO NOT DISAGREE! Sometimes your opponent DNA is just better and no matter what, the likelihood of you winning is slim, ...... .however, what I DO BELIEVE, is when you have the opponent who is equal to you or might be a little better, I believe coaching/X's & O's play a HUGE factor in those types of games, more so than your "culture." In all sincerity thank you for your responses, as I am merely trying to gauge your responses. Love the discussion guys! 99.9% agree. .1 is the culture you have created. doing your job, getting to work on time, busting your hump, watching film with kids and teaching them. that is a culture. regardless of what you guys think or dont think, thats what it is. it sounds like to me by reading, the staff is all blue collar guys, lets get dirty, work your A$$ off, push the kids to the edge and then make em fly, out work the other team and their coaches. so if you push that motto, mantra, culture on the kids, that this is how we will win, you have created a new culture. obviously by leaving, the new staff couldnt sustain what you guys did, not enough knowledge or didnt like what you were doing(other than winning), coach talk, work, etc.... they are tearing down your foundation/culture.
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 13, 2019 9:09:20 GMT -6
Yes, you read that correctly. Scheme Defeats Culture. I am sure I will get criticized about this, and please understand I am not here to start World War III, merely a healthy discussion about all the 21st century buzz words that are being thrown around. Was reading another read about "Trust The Process", which got me to thinking...Why, why, why are we acting like culture matters on game night? Before you culture freaks go off, let me set something straight... 1. Yes I believe "culture" is important. For parents, admin, program, etc. Yes, you have to have some type of "rah-rah" within your program, some type of motto, something that your kids must believe sets them apart. However, I get so sick and tired of people using the word "culture" or "process", please just stop. Saw a guy tweet the other day, "I'm not afraid of your X's & O's, I fear your culture." To me, all of that sounds just awful. Maybe I am in the minority, but I have won alot more games game planning and making adjustments, than using the word culture at halftime. Have never won a state championship, but have coached in two of them, and here is what I noticed about those two teams... 1. Guys who just loved playing the game. Of those two years, we had a total of 3 guys who went on to play mid-major FBS football, not power 5. 2. It was the best staff I have ever been on, because we studied the game, watched film, and prepared! We didn't waste time discussing what type of leadership ideas we were going to do in January. I am not saying we never used the word "culture", but I am saying that we worried more the game as opposed to all the leadership techniques 3. We didn't waste time on culture ideas, river floats, lock ins, dads & donuts, helmets & heels, and all the other stuff that people do now a days, but rather that time was devoted to the weight room, film room, and practice field to prepare to WIN! When the work was done, we went home. Here is another thing, when I go to clinics, I want to hear ball! I don't want some guy telling me about how their culture is so much better than mine, and then pull up a clip of 4 star D1 guy busting 3 tackles on inside zone. Also, there is actually a guy who wrote a book about "Culture Defeats Strategy", and people actually buy this! Why? And this 3D coaching that is out there. Come on guys, football & athletics have been going before we were born and will continue long after we die. Our parents and grandparents played this game, without all the books, manuals, motivational talk, etc. and they did just fine, thus brings my question...Why in 2019 are people so sold on this "culture-chemistry-discipline" mantra? What has happen to us; and there are actually people making money off selling books that discuss culture? Blows my mind. Also, think about this, you are paid to win games, and if you don't believe that, you are fooling yourself. Your admin doesn't fire you because your culture is the best in the country. I have never seen a coach fired because of culture or lack there of, and we all know it's true. Again, I am not trying to start a nuclear meltdown, I am trying to give my .02, but also gather your insight on the matter. My question - Does culture really matter at kickoff? Again, refer to earlier in my post, culture is important and must be part of your program. *I do NOT disagree with that*. But what about those moments, when it's 4th & 1, and you get stuffed and lose the game? Are you going to blame your culture or blame the play call? So for all you culture dudes out there, couple of questions... 1. Can you really make a 16 year old kid regardless of financial status, race, color, or creed a leader? 2. If you go 0-10/1-9/2-8, how do you get your kids to believe that you are the best program in the country? (To me, sounds like you need to spend more time on X's & O's as opposed to the whole culture thing, but that's just me.) 3. Does your "culture" really make a difference at kickoff? we talked a bit on the "other post" but, what your saying is culture! guys who just love to play ball guys who kill it in the weight room having a great staff that works tirelessly on the weekends to form a great plan. no of those things happen at the losingist team in the county you work in. scheme is a part for sure. scheme will take a team that is equal or marginally behind its opponent in terms of jimmies and joes and will win. but, in your 4th and 1 scenerio, the team that fumbles the snap to lose, thats not scheme!!!! the guy that drives the field to win the ball game scheme and joes are more important, but,,,,,,some of that winning mentality or weight room warrior or the great staff that game planned perfectly, all culture.winning and losing teams have it..... answer your 3 questions now 1-you cant make a leader. either he has it or he doesnt. being around a mindset of winning, competition, desire, motivation, will help him become a different person yes, but will not make him a leader. 2-my teams I talked to you about before, i never expressed we were the best, it was always underdog role. you wont convince a doormat that they can beat the state champs. but, you can show them how to work hard, harder than ever. you can do every little thing right, perfect in every facet of the game(to best of their ability), and on a rainy night in october you may stand a chance to hang with the big dogs and never give up. that my friend is changing THE CULTURE of the program. is scheme important, sure thing. but a great scheme is part of the culture! 3-does it? not as much as the 11 D1 kids on the other side of the field does......but if all things equal, it sure does. coach at a 10yr old school, we have never beaten the rival in 10 yrs. 2 of the last 3 years we have had 4th quarter leads, dominate on both sides of the ball. how did we lose? it sure wasnt scheme or joes....
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 12, 2019 10:36:13 GMT -6
In response to mnike23 That is cool, coach. And it takes a special coach to take over a doormat and turn it into something special. However, let me ask you, in those 3 seasons, you won 6 games, while that is probably a HUGE accomplishment and I am NOT discounting that, is your admin going to keep telling you what a great job you are doing after year 4, year 5, year 6? If they do, NEVER leave! Sidenote - Keep up the good work coach! brotha, let me tell ya.... the principal that hired me, was moved the next summer, then that guy was around for 2 seasons(top 2 ive ever worked for), he could care less if we won or not. it was about putting solid on the field, he knew the struggles(was an AP at a 3x state champ program) and understood what we had to work with. so he left summer of year 3. brand, brand new principal, was overwhelemed, he brought in his own AD(former football coach, knew it was going to be bad), AD that hired me, she retired, i knew that was the begnning of the end. i was let go pretty soon after the hiring. would it have worked out, naw, not with this dude wanting his own people. but, that is the job,,, all things considered, if either the principal that hired me or the next 1 had stayed, i would still be the HBC. we had it going in the right direction for sure! on to the next 1
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 12, 2019 8:35:37 GMT -6
THANK YOU!!! Typical coaching cliche. I'm with you boneyard, what do it even mean? And all the coaches who believe that...*facepalm*. I AM NOT discounting that culture and community is important, it is. Saw one coach say, "I don't fear your X's & O's, I fear your culture." I am probably in the minority on saying that your X's and O's matter more than your culture on game night. But as Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. What happens to your culture then? "Changing the culture" or "Trust the process" or "Culture over scheme" Please stop! It just gets old! changing the culture or turning this doormatt of a loser, bottom feeder into something respectable. that would be changing the culture. if youve ever coached in a community that has never had or been some years of losing and excitement hasnt happend in some time, changing that culture can be as simple as the team being in stretch lines and doing things as a team on friday night. walking 2x2 to and from the field, lining up on the goal line for national anthem, etc..... know that 1st hand, i did it at a school. was the most bizarre thing. we lost home opener and admin came to me and said that was the best thing they had seen in quite some time at the school. community people were shaking my hand (we lost by 3 tds) and saying thank you for creating some excitment and we looked great out there, best they had seen in 10 years. it happend alot for a couple years. we won 6 games in 3 seasons and you would have thought we were state champs. never lost a game by more than 3 tds....... culture over scheme, sure its jimmies n joes, not x and o. if my dudes are killers you can scheme all you want if your 5'5 and 150lbs OL kids. thrust the process=listen to what we have been teaching, coaching, working on, at some point it will come to fruition.
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 21, 2019 12:26:24 GMT -6
spurrier came out in and said that the main investors all kinda fell thru and thats when this guy put up 250mil. ebersol has stated they had levels of investments, a,b,c,d, and was filling them up slowly. they were not behind payroll 8 ball like noted, but the 250 mil gets them pretty much thru infinity in terms sustainability.
the product is pretty good and if they put up #s weekly in the high scoring ranges like a couple games has, its only going to get better.
oh and how about starter being the official outfitter? takes me right back to 1991, wish I had my ole starter jacket pullover now! looked them up, 159 a pop! for a freaking starter jacket. AAF will be just fine.
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 21, 2019 12:19:25 GMT -6
I was afraid it wouldn't last long, even with good ratings. The logistics of paying huge rosters full of players is tough for any pro league and they have 8 teams full of 52 guys making $250k a year, plus 11-13 coaches per team with huge salaries. I would like to see this succeed, but I forsee the product getting stale and ratings declining dramatically over the course of the season. the contracts are 3/250k, non guaranteed.
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 11, 2019 9:47:06 GMT -6
I for 1, enjoyed the product on the field. the offenses were slow to start, but thats more the norm for high school type offenses that only get X amount of time at the begining of spring ball to get things rolling. defenses are much better earlier on, just because schemes are a bit easier and not nearly as sophisticated as some of the offenses. cover 2 is cover 2, regardless of how you disguise it. a 3 tech is a 3 tech, b gap, cross face slant, etc.. offense, power is ran 36 ways from sunday by every dam coach in the world, as is shallow, ncaa, dagger, china, smash, outside zone, stretch and wide zone,,(arent those all the same thing really?). but there are real football players out there that you may have heard of, trent richardson, matt asista(sic), will hill, etc. and alot you may have never heard of. but its not like arena ball where you know zero to 5 guys in the whole league. its the NFL version of try this out and see if these rules work. no kickoff, no onsides, no PAT. AAF is a good start to a minor leagues for the NFL. all for it. now get the coaches out of there and let some up and comers in so they to can have some of that chance you are giving the almost nfl players! cool to have those names to invigorate some excitment(neuhisel and spurrier, singletary, etc), but what about get some new life in and see what could happen! THATS WHEN WE WILL SEE THE FLEXBONE HAPPEN!!!!
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 11, 2019 7:57:42 GMT -6
i sure wish paul johnson would get a shot at coaching in this league,,, flexbone would be awesome here.
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 4, 2019 12:30:23 GMT -6
There's an old saying (true or not) that "There is no defense for good offense." In other words if offense blocks and executes, it can't be stopped. Therefore some people feel that if offense isn't going up and down field, it's bad offense (probably play calling!) rather than good defense. have heard the poor play calling all day today. ignorant to think that bad plays by padawan mcvay and not great defense scheme by jedi master belichek stupid casual fans...
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 22, 2019 10:33:58 GMT -6
cant play 11 games in 9 weeks....
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Post by mnike23 on Nov 16, 2018 12:20:07 GMT -6
If youre acceptimg the penalty you better be going pass pass if you take it and run it on 3rd down you should be fired. seriously? pass for 2 consecutive plays, im debating firing myself with that thinking. if you cant get 2 yards running the ball on both plays, then you should be fired. run the ball on 3rd, and with some success, run it again, stuffed at the line, play action pass. but no chance in hell im calling back to back best passes. and I like to throw the ball!!!!! all honesty, im taking my 4th down chance on under a yard, best player the ball in his hands, somehow. toss sweep, jet sweep, power, counter, zone read, triple option, dart, buck sweep, counter criss cross, power read, something with the best in our program with the ball, get me my 1 yard. run where they aint!
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Post by mnike23 on Oct 19, 2018 12:03:44 GMT -6
just had 1 that basically has shut it down, as he is a basketball stud. shoulder hurt, but not so bad he couldnt play, knee "hurts" so hes sitting for 2 weeks, per doctors instruction.... we have 3 games left.
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Post by mnike23 on Oct 9, 2018 10:57:47 GMT -6
he should just delete his comments, cant call someone out like that when your dead A-- wrong. i tried to be polite and say, hey read what was said first, but nope, got all slick about it. call a spade a spade, it is what it is, wasnt hijacking a post or any of that, but dude is wrong.
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Post by mnike23 on Oct 8, 2018 11:11:55 GMT -6
read the whole thread, dont pick and choose what your reading and will see why it was said You go back and read the thread. Your post was early in the thread. Don't try to hide behind the posts that came AFTER your post...a post that, for some reason known only to you, talked about how you allocate varsity playing time in a thread that was started about a freshman B game. and further more, I aint hiding behind anything. you DID NOT READ THE THREAD, but want to be a keyboard jockey smart A. read it and tell me im wrong for saying what I said.
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Post by mnike23 on Oct 8, 2018 11:10:21 GMT -6
I am not saying it's the right way to do things but I personally think every kid that is in good standing should play every game at the lower levels. And at varsity the kids that have been invested in the program should be played as often as possible. If our sport is struggling with numbers, then we need to allow kids to experience the best part of it...playing. I know their is value in competition and winning but on the freshmen B team surely there is a spot this could have gotten in without ruining the outcome for everything. If he was a turd, I would have a different opinion but good kids deserve to play. Plus you never know what will happen to a motivated kids in over the course of a 4 year high school career. As right as you may be, i disagree. we dont have a participation rule, thats pop warner/aau/usa football. best kids play. rules for parents, we dont discuss playing time. you want to know why he didnt play, come to practice and watch him compete with the person in front of him. end of talk. as far as varsity kids being invested, yes they should play, in blowouts, homecoming games and senior night(if a senior) otherwise, win your battle with the #1 in your spot. im not going to pull a starter just to give little billy some burn because he came to 100% of the summer workouts. by the same token, i will yank a player for screwing up, starter or not. when you are evaulated on wins and losses, not for getting kids in games or sending kids to college, better score 50, give up 0 and win every game you can. not saying its right, but its reality in certain places. hmmmm,,,, why did I comment about varsity,, 19deltanow you tell me you read the whole thread and I will call you a GD liar.....
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Post by mnike23 on Oct 4, 2018 11:18:11 GMT -6
pretty clear if you read what I said 19delta I am not talking about a freshmen B game. freshmen b game, may as well be pop warner, aau, usa football. put em all in. Im talking about a varsity contest, if you cant read thru the lines there,,,,,, The original post was about playing time in a freshman B game. So why did you post about varsity playing time? What does that have to do with the OP's topic? read the whole thread, dont pick and choose what your reading and will see why it was said
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Post by mnike23 on Oct 2, 2018 10:44:53 GMT -6
As right as you may be, i disagree. we dont have a participation rule, thats pop warner/aau/usa football. best kids play. rules for parents, we dont discuss playing time. you want to know why he didnt play, come to practice and watch him compete with the person in front of him. end of talk. as far as varsity kids being invested, yes they should play, in blowouts, homecoming games and senior night(if a senior) otherwise, win your battle with the #1 in your spot. im not going to pull a starter just to give little billy some burn because he came to 100% of the summer workouts. by the same token, i will yank a player for screwing up, starter or not. when you are evaulated on wins and losses, not for getting kids in games or sending kids to college, better score 50, give up 0 and win every game you can. not saying its right, but its reality in certain places. I vehemently disagree. The OP said this was a freshman "B" game. The purpose of having freshman "B" games is so everyone gets to play! If you are fortunate enough to coach at a school that has enough kids tio even have a freshman "B" team, it is incumbent upon you to use that game to get ALL of your freshman players quality snaps. Playing to win? In a freshman "B" game? Are you serious??? pretty clear if you read what I said 19delta I am not talking about a freshmen B game. freshmen b game, may as well be pop warner, aau, usa football. put em all in. Im talking about a varsity contest, if you cant read thru the lines there,,,,,,
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