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Post by mnike23 on Mar 13, 2024 8:30:04 GMT -6
I don't think that anybody on a football coaches' forum is going to argue that we don't deserve more money. As the philosopher William Munney said, though, "Deserve's got nothing to do with it". This bill looks like a half-a$$ed scheme that seems to leave some open questions. 1. It's going to cost a lot of money. Besides football it calls for big raises for coaches in other sports. Where's it coming from? Maybe the answer is in the bill and was just left out of the article but I kind of doubt it. 2. Is somebody going to keep track of the hours? How? somewhere in the article they say the schools/school districts have to figure how to pay the coaches and who is keeping track of the hours, I agree.
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 13, 2024 6:48:23 GMT -6
While I believe that 22K is quiet a supplement. I do think a HC deserves a solid 10K supplement, or to be put on a 12 month contract. Asst. coaches. 5K minimum or 11 month contract. I coach in NC. Which is slightly better than Fl in terms of coaching pay. But still light years behind our neighbors in SC. Which is why we lose 2-3 solid coaches to SC every year, the same way Fl. loses them to GA. id take the 11/12 month contract pay check in a second. to me that would fix it very quickly. it aint 22k by any stretch, but absolutely would change how coaches live in the summer.
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 12, 2024 8:46:33 GMT -6
theres a follow up article by the same guy talking about the representiative said something along the lines of-schools would have to figure it out. that will never, ever fly. Why not? Illinois passes education bills like this all the time. union state vs imitation union state. teachers in union state will just strike to prove the point, they wont in florida, school districts already struggling to get to 48.5 k a year for teacher min pay, telling school systems to find another 6 to 11 million to pay coaches and not raise teacher pay (veterans got screwed in the 48.5 min pay deal, we got zero raise, but the 1st year guy is within 2k of a 10yr guy). will never pass
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 12, 2024 8:15:09 GMT -6
if you have a "football" class make sure there are no gen ed kids in there. it literally turned into a nightmare for me.
tough unless you have specific sport kids in there and then a gen ed weight class later in day
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 12, 2024 8:12:03 GMT -6
Where is the money supposed to come from? thats the million and millions of dollars question. theres a follow up article by the same guy talking about the representiative said something along the lines of-schools would have to figure it out. that will never, ever fly. teachers already get the extremely short end of the stick in fla, as the 48th paid on avg, now a union guy(right to work state, holds little bearing just a person to vent and complain to be honest) will moan and groan about teachers working after hours and they deserve to get paid the 15$ an hour too. be tough to argue no. sure hope it passes before I retire! be awfully nice to get paid for what we do, finally.
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 12, 2024 8:05:14 GMT -6
1500 is alot, be tough to be obtainable for sure. just did the math for us. may, 20 days of spring ball, plus saturday planning, friday game day, 94 hours june and july, 7 on 7, plus 4 days a week 7 to 12 workouts, 32 days, 180 hours fall camp 7 days 3 hours per 21 hours fall season 11 weeks 4 hrs per day 3 days per week(laundry, practice, planning, meeting) saturday planning 5 hrs 11 days gameday 9hrs, 11 days jv game 6hrs 8 days 329 hours for season
offseason 3 days a week weights, 2 days a week 7 on 7/skills and footwork 22 weeks, 20 a week 440 hours
all told, its under 1100 hours, im not sure where we could find 400 more hours, except if there was 1 extra hour per day and maybe 2 on sundays(which i didnt factor in, but I work on sundays during season).
would be tough, not impossible tho.
the hard part of this thing is the assistants. I have coaches that coach 2 or 3 other sports(be a huge paycheck if they did). but would be impossible to coach 2 sports and keep the hours requirement(750-1000)
hope it passes!
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 12, 2024 7:55:44 GMT -6
Well, it is Florida. Where 90% of "Hillbilly Headlines" on ESPN Radio's "Marty and McGee" show come from. theres much less "hillbilly" stuff going on in Florida than any where in the country, south of ocala, more northerners than any local or flo-grown people.
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 20, 2024 9:08:35 GMT -6
wow, 11 absolutely destroys the fb #28, gets up looks around for the ball as in whats going on, fb jumps up and takes off, no whistle. guess he was doing the right thing, shame on poor officiating for watching the "ball" but not really watching it. nobody would win that argument with the white hat.
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Post by mnike23 on Jan 2, 2024 12:49:12 GMT -6
once highly touted Clemson recruit DJ uiagalelei pick his 3rd school in 3 years Arkansas's key offensive player and 3 year starter at QB with over 8,000 yards passing KJ Jefferson move out to UCF Forida's 2nd leading rusher and touchdown leader Travis Etienne go to Georgia Ohio States Starting Quarterback Kyle McCord leave to go to Syracuse Oklahoma's Starting Quarterback Dillon Gabriel leave to go to Oregon Mississippi State's Starting Quarterback leave to go to Washington etc. etc. It is just a different world than the college football world just 3 years ago, and those with deep roots in the college game may not be able to adjust quick enough. We will see. DJ likely left for exposure or because his coach left or was going to be replaced. Jefferson was going to be replaced. Etienne is because Florida bad. McCord was going to be replaced. Gabriel was going to be replaced. State QB was going to be replaced. None of those reasons are new and most of it from a log jam from that extra year. Yes his first year a success, but lets not act like Deon has hand on the pulse of college football and that these guys that left are out of touch to justify these moves.[/quote] Gabriel left because Jeff Lebby took the Miss st job. Lebby is who recruited Gabriel while at UCF to be Mckenzie Milton replacement when he was done. When Heupel left to Tenn, Lebby went to oklahoma to be the OC and gabriel went with him. Etienne left because there is 2 recruits coming in that are napiers guys, who will tote the rock a great deal. and fla is bad.
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Post by mnike23 on Nov 6, 2023 9:13:02 GMT -6
full contact on friday, but many dont do full contact monday thru thursday. im not throwing stones or shade, but, my kids cannot differentiate the 2, if were uppers and girdles, its a good 7v7 practice and position drill day. but never do we get full contact or thud the right ways, soon as the pants come on, its different. several have full 7 pocket girdle, with knee pads built in, the rest have the 5 pocket and i have the smallest knee pads known to man. to each their own
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Post by mnike23 on Jun 9, 2023 8:11:29 GMT -6
8 to 1030 monday thur Thursday, 4 to 6 coaches there every single day, they all have same vision, win on friday nights, so its not even a conversation on missing. now if someone is going to be gone, its not frowned upon or whatever, go do what you need to, to have a healthy home life, but if your in town need to be at workouts. kids with 100% get something at the end of season, exclusive dri-fit shirt, name on home jerseys, something. thats the incentive.
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 5, 2023 10:01:04 GMT -6
name height weight position test scores, phone twitter hudl links, superlatives--bench squat clean 40
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Post by mnike23 on Dec 19, 2022 8:54:20 GMT -6
I'm a big fan of multi-sport athletes. Other than our weightlifting period where they are lifting 4 days a week, I never did anything in the offseason unless kids asked for meetings. Go develop skills in Wrestling, Basketball, Track, Soccer, Tennis, ... Compete and get better as an overall athlete. It's easier to coach athletes and why not let other adults in the building do part of your job for you? I 100% agree with this. for some reason my kids just basically refuse to do another sport. I have like 6 kids doing wrestling(only 2 OL kids, 1 DL kid) and 2 or 3 play basketball..... For some reason our kids are fooled into thinking our weight lifting team is the goal to being better at football.....so they all go lift weights, which is good and they should. But the girls weight team is in there also, so they get to drool and hangout with girls for the 3 hrs afterschool that weightlifting takes place..... a few run track, a couple play baseball. very frustrating, trying to develop and change an entire culture into better athlete=better football player,
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Post by mnike23 on May 24, 2022 8:21:44 GMT -6
does not cost 1.2 every time, over 400k is for site prep. you would be replacing the turf it self for roughly 1/3rd of the cost of new. This thread is 12 years old. that means someone who got turf 12 yrs ago would be up for new now. lol were in the process of getting turf and I searched it and replied
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Post by mnike23 on May 24, 2022 5:52:25 GMT -6
I know a college who is going to field turf and while there is many benefits there is one drawback is the life of turf is typically 10 to 12 years depending on how much you use it. if it is a game field only then you can get 15 yrs out of it. if it is multiuse games only then about 12. if you play games on it and practice on it, it will last a decade so you have to figure 1.2 million every decade or $100,000 a year basically. most schools I know do not put $100,000 grand into their field annually if it is grass. does not cost 1.2 every time, over 400k is for site prep. you would be replacing the turf it self for roughly 1/3rd of the cost of new.
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Post by mnike23 on May 24, 2022 5:45:28 GMT -6
this is an old thread, but I have turf tank and it is a lifesaver, backsaver, time saver. best money we ever spent
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Post by mnike23 on May 17, 2022 8:41:46 GMT -6
2100 kids hc, qb, rb, 2 wr, ol dc/db, lb, dl s and c 3 are volunteers off of being young or community coaches. i have 3 paid positions open still...... and for 8 weeks had a pe job open that I couldnt give away..... 2 WR and 1 OL? Mushroom Society! ol guy doesnt play well with others, I want a 2nd ol coach for sure, hard on 1 guy. 2 wr guy, both are volunteers and 1 is a rookie coach, so hes a gofer as well as helping out.
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Post by mnike23 on May 15, 2022 8:34:07 GMT -6
2100 kids hc, qb, rb, 2 wr, ol dc/db, lb, dl s and c 3 are volunteers off of being young or community coaches. i have 3 paid positions open still...... and for 8 weeks had a pe job open that I couldnt give away.....
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Post by mnike23 on Apr 20, 2022 11:13:23 GMT -6
hard to evaluate for spring ball, if a player doesnt have a helmet. what about spring game.... looks like the 20 new kids we got will not be playing. smh
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Post by mnike23 on Apr 18, 2022 12:00:08 GMT -6
anyone having problems getting their helmets back from recon? we got some back, not all and the ones we ordered extra are on back order.
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 9, 2022 12:06:51 GMT -6
as a HC, obviously at every workout. running them to my vision. as an asst. I was at every workout, doing what the HC asked me to do, running, weights, agilities, etc. I would tell my coaches, you come if you want. if you want to be good/better, you will be there. if your ok with 3-7, 2-8, then it will be me working my tail off. cant be upset on friday nights, if you didnt put in the work for offseason/weekends/thru the week. same thing I would tell the kids. dont cry after a loss, but miss half the summer workouts doing other things.
as an asst, I wanted to be there to take some off the plate of the boss, learn more, and to build a rapport. ive been paid 1 time in 29 yrs in the summer.
coaches have to want to be there just like the kids. now circumstances are and can be different in every situation (non teacher, etc)
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Post by mnike23 on May 11, 2021 14:25:24 GMT -6
have always done the same thing form run, then go out to 40 and quick 2 min static stretch, jumping jacks. more of a routine thing 1 year we did this thing I saw at FSU spring practice. and we did it defense on sideline A 40,30,20,10 offense on sideline B 35,25,15,5 they would form run (hi knees, butt kicks, etc )from sideline to hash, sprint to other hash, finish form run then do other form run things back down their line to where they started, at the end of all the form run, jog to hashes and face each other, do the team jacks facing each other and then go to indy groups. it was an awful lot of movement, but it was good.
now, we will do our feed the cats speed drills to warm up, and then go indy. Im 100% sold on FTC. was awesome for track season this yr
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Post by mnike23 on Apr 30, 2021 12:32:31 GMT -6
good ole wing t waggle is the truest form of rpo there is fake trap, fake buck, roll out and if green grass that means fb in flat is covered, and run like he77. if no green grass, fb or TE late drag, is open throw them the ball. how long has waggle been around? but thats not the OP question.
new football, what is it, what more can we evolve too? offenses are already intricate, but simple, defenses are the same. to reinvent the wheel is a bit silly, but to see someone in 100 and run buck sweep vs a DC thats still wet behind the ears is pretty comical. they are looking around like what am i supposed to do with all these fakes and cant find the ball, f it, just blitz everyone. some said it already, its a cycle. whats old will be new again (in some form) power I from the gun is still power I. wing t from gun is still wing T 4-2-5 sure does look like a 4-3/4-4 in many places. 3-4 lined up, sure does look like the old 50 defense.
great post, lots of knowledge here
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Post by mnike23 on Apr 27, 2021 11:03:35 GMT -6
2 things kids remember, sex, sex terms/words, nipple, butt, hooters, sluts, you dirty minded pervs. lol bible. noah, jonah, the ark, part the red sea, moses, etc.
I have made play calls over the years make sense in terms of what we are running. jet sweep for example was falcons. why? air force is the falcons, air force flies jets. therefore jet sweep was falcons
power, well its always steelers, why, becasue pittsburgh is powerful town full of blue collar guys. have changed it over the years to a couple other things, but you get the idea
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Post by mnike23 on Apr 27, 2021 10:51:31 GMT -6
If you decide to continue, I would do everything I could to make it fun (while having a purpose). If it's miserable you will soon find yourself with 4 dudes and then no dudes. If you make it fun they will tell their friends and you could have more dudes. I'm awful at this kind of stuff. Have no idea how to make practice meaningful and fun under these circumstances. terrible situation. I guess I would ask, what are the 8 kids positions? then go from there. do you have a qb and mostly skill kids, do route running and teach those kids make it fun like everyone is saying, could get major major tech work in, for every single kid. alot of 1 on 1 2 on 2 skills and drills. tough man, really tough good luck
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 31, 2021 9:49:36 GMT -6
have done it several ways. 1 year we did 10 days of install(was really just regular practice to the kids, but putting everything in, in those 10 days) run, quick passgame, drop back/rollout pass, screen, every day. when we were out of runs(we were simplistic run game wise) we used those days for rpo/ bubble/smoke screens everyday, prepractice was review from day before. so day 2, was power and power and power, day 3 was power and counter, power and counter, day 4 was jet, power and counter. etc. pass game was same way, slant, slant, slant, slant hitch, slant hitch, slant hitch fade, etc.
1 year we did it by complimentary plays. power and counter were together, so we put them in at same time. then added jet to it too. then added q power, q counter, then 2 backs, then i formation, etc. pass game was same, slant hitch fade all went in together as it was quick game. then all the rollout passes, then the cov 2 beaters, man, cov 4, etc.
lots of ways to skin a cat, each program kid is different, we all learn different. on the board, in person, draw it up, on hudl, etc. whatever works best for your kids, do that.
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Post by mnike23 on Apr 8, 2020 9:42:18 GMT -6
zoom, was pretty easy
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 30, 2020 6:55:09 GMT -6
school/football, follow a similar path.... we get back to school before june, and how many parents will say "im not letting my kid go and get sick". and what can schools do about it? not much, doubtful if anything. cant fail a kid because parents are scared.
Im afraid we may follow a similar path in the fall, with or without a known vaccine. how many parents will say, "you play football and all that sweat and helmets and touching and shoulder pads and all that, hes not playing I dont want him getting sick". and who could fault that parent?
touching on something else that was talked about, coaching stipends. i know none of us coach because of the money (unless your a big money state player, texas, georgia, parts of mississippi, alabama,panhandle florida and south carolina), what happens to those big timers making 100k and they dont teach a class and only coach football? Do they still get paid? isnt alot of their paychecks from boosters, say schools pay admin pay (11month AP pay for example is 75k) and boosters throw in 30k on top of that. if they arent fundraising to help pay the HC, because 'ball was cancelled, how can those guys justifibly get paid?
hoping for the best, I sure do miss seeing the weight room and the green grass. ready for installs and some 7 on 7 and to hear some pads popping. but fellas,,,,,it sure dont look very good. right now.
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Post by mnike23 on Mar 26, 2020 7:53:37 GMT -6
i love it, have had it almost 3 years and there is a wide variety of things to look at, get better at, ideas for any topic, a different way to run ______, etc. well worth it
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Post by mnike23 on Feb 11, 2020 7:39:56 GMT -6
left a job in ISS to "help out admin" and be a dean of discipline........ 8hrs of hudl to 8hrs of no hudl, or espn or shining the seat of a chair with my A$$..... probably the poorest choice ive made. now dumb, ehhh....im not hijacking the thread with things that ive done dumb. list would go on for awhile. haahaa. nobodys perfect, we all do things at the time fell like they are right and for the right reason. old man told me 1 time, hindsight isnt 20/20, its more like 50/50.
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