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Post by emptybackfield on Feb 27, 2014 7:18:33 GMT -6
Sounds like an oxymoron, doesn't it? I feel like we have more and more types of these kids in our program. Of course, we still have kids that work their tail off hoping to win a spot as well as the athlete who thinks he's better than he is and doesn't do a thing. What strategies do you use for the kid who is in the weight room, goes to camp, etc. and may even be the best at his position (or not) but is entitled nonetheless? Entitled to what? Playing time?
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Post by emptybackfield on Feb 26, 2014 17:12:05 GMT -6
What specifically are you looking for? Like Bdud said, there are many coaches that will travel to you. College coaches generally have the most time during the summer.
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Post by emptybackfield on Feb 26, 2014 8:19:35 GMT -6
We need a section of the board titled "Classic Threads" and this should be the first inductee.
What you say Coach Huey? Tog? Can we get this done?
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Post by emptybackfield on Feb 25, 2014 10:00:24 GMT -6
Hey emptybackfield! thanks for the new Avatar!!!! Hey, I didn't give you permission to use my likeness as your avatar!
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Post by emptybackfield on Feb 25, 2014 9:59:35 GMT -6
We are trying very hard to get a streamlined philosophy in regards to weights for athletes in our school. The kids get their weights done during the school day, but even then it's an issue for some of these other coaches and kids to buy-in.
"HEY DUMBA$$, WE ARE TRAINING YOUR ATHLETES FOR YOU. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LET US WORK WITH THEM!"
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Post by emptybackfield on Feb 25, 2014 5:35:04 GMT -6
Re: Dr. Notes Once had a dad call me the day after we rushed for 320+ in one of our few victories. He didn't want his boy playing OT, he was a fullback. We discussed it, he got angry. Monday he shows up with the player and a Dr. note saying that getting into a 3-point stance was hurting his back and that he could not do that anymore. Cleared for everything but the 3-point stance. So he couldn't play OT anymore. Played LB and was darn good. Our next OT was not nearly as good and we went downhill from there. Dad was willing, and able, to get his kid off the OL at the expense of the team. Why didn't you let him play OT from a 2-point?
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Post by emptybackfield on Feb 24, 2014 20:49:21 GMT -6
Yup
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 23, 2014 14:22:47 GMT -6
I recommend a way to just donate a few bucks, other than a t-shirt. I know a few years ago that was an option to donate (I think it was $10 and you got an email address with it) but I don't see that anymore. I'd rather just throw you a few bones knowing that you clear it all, instead of spending $15 on a t-shirt and knowing that you may only clear 3 or 4 bucks after shipping. Quite frankly, I love the site and all it stands for, but I won't wear that t-shirt.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 16, 2014 7:41:17 GMT -6
I love it. Iron Fist, old school. The hell with this new aged America where you coddle these kids. He wants those kids representing a certain image of Texas Football. Clean Cut, good kids, who go hard and are held accountable. I don't think those objecting to some of the things Coach Strong outlined are opposed to "old school, iron fist discipline." You can have that while trusting kids to live off campus and not having your position coaches running gassers.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 15, 2014 10:34:25 GMT -6
I love that we're all on board for keeping the kids accountable, but when it comes to holding the position coaches accountable we collectively lose our {censored}Who is doing that? I've said about 4 times in this thread that accountability isn't the issue. It's the ridiculous and petty manner that they're held "accountable." Is the threat of getting fired not enough? Is including bonuses into the coach's contract regarding class attendance and grades not "hard a$$" enough?
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 15, 2014 10:11:09 GMT -6
I'm on board with 90% of it, I just think the coaches running and forcing 22 and 23 year old kids to live in the dorms is a little much as well. These are adults that can vote, buy cigarettes, go to strip clubs, buy beer, etc. Hell, some of them are probably engaged or married and living with females. Many are choosing not to comprehend what they read though and are taking me being against those two things as me disagreeing with the entire premise. They also have a right to pay for their own college education if they find the rules to be too harsh. Yes, you are correct. But that doesn't mean I can see it as being unnecessary and juvenile.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 15, 2014 10:01:48 GMT -6
Thought this was pretty awesome and I should share Players will attend all of their classes and sit in the front two rows of all of their classes. GAs, academic folks, position coaches will be checking constantly now. No headphones in class. No texting in class. Sit up and take notes. If a player misses a class, he runs until it hurts. If he misses two classes, his entire position unit runs. If he misses three, the position coach runs. The position coaches don't want to run. No earrings in the football building. No drugs. No stealing. No guns. Treat women with respect. Players may not live off campus anymore, unless they're a senior who hits certain academic standards. The University will buy out the leases for every player currently living off campus and put them in the athletic dorm. The team will all live together, eat together, suffer together, and hang out together. They will become a true team and learn to impose accountability on each other. The cliques are over. There's no time for a rebuild. "I don't have time for that." The expectation is that Texas wins now. Players will learn that they would rather practice than milk a minor injury. The focus is on winning and graduating. Anything extraneous to that is a distraction and will be stamped out or removed. Strong met individually with seniors and key leaders and re-emphasized that the plan is to win now. They can lead the new culture or be run over by it. "I don't want to talk about things. I'd rather do things. We just talked. Now it's time to do." I have a hard time believing that any coach could take issue with any of this. 6 AM running for missing classes is pretty normal. Making position coaches run is a little much but, as others have said, I doubt that it gets to that point. Everything there is designed to make kids better students and citizens. What's the problem? I'm on board with 90% of it, I just think the coaches running and forcing 22 and 23 year old kids to live in the dorms is a little much as well. These are adults that can vote, buy cigarettes, go to strip clubs, buy beer, etc. Hell, some of them are probably engaged or married and living with females. Many are choosing not to comprehend what they read though and are taking me being against those two things as me disagreeing with the entire premise.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 15, 2014 9:44:46 GMT -6
it is interesting the responses on a coach's board..... Who's football program is it, though? Is it the University's or the players that chose to go to that school? Doing this in a high school is a different animal than doing it in a multi-million dollar DI program. What do you guys think happens after the second player reprimand, when the entire position group is held accountable? . Isn't there something much more productive a position coach could be doing than running the steps of Darrel K. Royal Stadium? like what? Maybe extra fundamentals or film work with the position coach at 5am. I know there are restrictions on stuff like this out of season, but I'd like to think there are better ways to hold coaches accountable than to have them running stadium steps.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 15, 2014 9:15:27 GMT -6
it is interesting the responses on a coach's board..... Who's football program is it, though? Is it the University's or the players that chose to go to that school? Doing this in a high school is a different animal than doing it in a multi-million dollar DI program. What do you guys think happens after the second player reprimand, when the entire position group is held accountable? . Isn't there something much more productive a position coach could be doing than running the steps of Darrel K. Royal Stadium? like what? Maybe bringing in the entire position group for extra fundamentals, weights, or film. I know there are some restrictions but they have to be able find something more productive than this. Ron Prince used to run his coaches at K-State and it was a disaster. That doesn't mean that it doesn't work some places, but I'm just throwing that out there.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 15, 2014 8:18:34 GMT -6
Telling 21-23 year old kids that they have to move back into the dorms and making guys in their mid 50's run gassers seems to be overkill. You can have "high expectations" without these kind of things. Like others have said, it's not a democracy. And if you're a position coach getting paid God knows what, I think you can find the time to take to check on your players in class and keep them in line. You're missing my point, too. You guys are creating straw man arguments. It's not the accountability, it's that the punishment seems rather non-constructive and juvenile. Isn't there something much more productive a position coach could be doing than running the steps of Darrel K. Royal Stadium? The WR coach's cardiovascular health isn't going to help the team win games.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 15, 2014 7:44:04 GMT -6
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 15, 2014 7:43:05 GMT -6
Telling 21-23 year old kids that they have to move back into the dorms and making guys in their mid 50's run gassers seems to be overkill. You can have "high expectations" without these kind of things. Or does it place more responsibility on coaches to make sure their guys are doing what they should be, these guys are making a ton of money to coach college kids I think making sure they are in class isn't that much to ask of someone making north of 200k a year. Again, my problem isn't holding coaches accountable, it's the juvenile nature of the "punishment"
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 15, 2014 7:09:00 GMT -6
I like it. High Expectations. Too each his own I guess. We have the rule of no earring while wearing our stuff. Jerseys on game days, work out gear, etc. I don't mind it. Says your about the team not yourself. I don't think it's overkill at all. Telling 21-23 year old kids that they have to move back into the dorms and making guys in their mid 50's run gassers seems to be overkill. You can have "high expectations" without these kind of things.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jan 15, 2014 6:22:42 GMT -6
Exactly. Seems like a lot of overkill to me. The part on position coaches running is flat out juvenile.
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Post by emptybackfield on Dec 29, 2013 20:02:38 GMT -6
PA is tough to beat!!! $98K teaching salary $12K football stipend (varsity head coach) Very good football Where the hell is that? ? And are they hiring??? I make about half that as a teacher in PA and get 2k to coach. Penn St.
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Post by emptybackfield on Dec 27, 2013 20:46:02 GMT -6
my schedule has been varied in my years. I'm typically a biology teacher and have taught that most years. Class load has ranged from 2 classes a day to 4 classes a day. There have been a couple of years where I wasn't in the classroom (was at a large school). For 2 years at school I've been at for past 6 years I would teach 2 classes in the am then spend the afternoon down at the JH with their p.e. and athletics classes. We have the same number of "off periods" as any other teacher. currently we are on a 7 period day. here is my schedule: 1st - freshmen athletics 2nd - biology 3rd - anatomy 4th - biology 5th - varsity/JV athletics lunch 6th - biology 7th - conference Thanks. I was just curious what a TX HS coach's schedule was. That, and didn't know if you taught full time because of the income/responsibility of the site.
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Post by emptybackfield on Dec 27, 2013 20:10:18 GMT -6
54,000 at a state championship game schools with 500 students will play a regular season game in front of 2,000+ athletic period for football in the school day all coaches are on campus, assistants make $40-65 thousand for teaching & coaching. over 1,400 public schools that play football. another several hundred private schools with football state professional organization over 25,000 active members dozens & dozens of coaching clinics available january through june. play with ncaa rules and very closely mirror ncaa guidelines in year-round approach could go on, but you probably get the point... it may or may not be "the best" but it will be in every conversation about "the best". Coach Huey- what do you teach? What subject and how many class periods a day?
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Post by emptybackfield on Dec 27, 2013 19:33:49 GMT -6
Those 5 qualities can very quite a bit within a state. And, it's pretty dang tough to get all of those in one place. If one of you guys find all of those somewhere, let me know.
I'm in the suburban Nashville area and it's a great place to live. Cost of living is not bad, very mild winters, good seasonality, etc. The district I am in pays teachers very well, but the coaching stipends are a complete joke (in my 9th year of coaching and a coordinator and cleared $1600 after taxes because they tax it as a "bonus"). Facilities aren't bad and the attendance/booster club involvement is pretty much up to how you do things/how successful you are.
If I just had football driving the decisions in my life and I was going to stay at the HS level, I'd pack up all my shyt and move to Texas.
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Post by emptybackfield on Dec 24, 2013 9:13:11 GMT -6
Coach don't make the mistake of putting football before family. I was able to coach college football for a short time with some legendary coaches and there was a common regret with all of them. "I wish I can have more time with my family" or "I wish I had spent more time with family." They all told me football will always be around but your family won't. Ask yourself the question is that job more important than your family? Don't sacrifice your family for personal gain...you will regret it. Just my 2 cents. I understand and agree with your general premise here, but I don't think this is even in the same league as coaching college ball. It's not like his new post is going to take him on the road 4 nights a week recruiting, have cross-country bus/plane trips for games, and at the facility till 11pm. He'll miss some games during football season, not year round like college coaches, who miss their kids basketball games, wrestling matches, dance recitals, etc. Staringfrog, To me, this looks like an opportunity you need to take. I don't know your son, obviously, but I'm betting he would understand. Have you talked to him about it to gauge his feelings on the situation?
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Post by emptybackfield on Dec 23, 2013 12:46:51 GMT -6
Would you be able to make his games if you just stayed a coordinator? Sounds like either way, you will miss his games, right?
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Post by emptybackfield on Dec 21, 2013 9:09:30 GMT -6
I don't think any day is all that much more special than the others. I recommend checking the schedule of speakers/presenters, see what you want to attend the most, and let that drive your decision.
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Post by emptybackfield on Dec 20, 2013 21:41:45 GMT -6
First off, congratulations. It's exhausting, but awesome.
The biggest piece of advice I can give (and others have already touched on this) is to "be home" when you're home. I struggle with this daily, and quite frankly am not very good at it. Keep your laptop and cell phone out of sight until the kid is asleep. It's a lot easier said than done.
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Post by emptybackfield on Nov 28, 2013 6:37:28 GMT -6
I'm very thankful for a place like this where we can talk shop 24-7 as well as all the coaches on here that are always wiling to help out.
Eat too much, drink too much, watch ball, and enjoy your families.
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Post by emptybackfield on Nov 25, 2013 12:35:20 GMT -6
We punted from a Field Goal/PAT formation and kicking the ball off of a pad. We had too many punts blocked and I mentioned it to the HC. He did it the next game and we did it the rest of the season. We had a kicker with a great leg so it worked pretty well for us. We had a few televised games and the announcers reactions by themselves were worth doing it. What is this "pad" you speak of. Dcohio- that's a great move man. What's the rule on that? Isn't the clock supposed to stop at some point? If not, can't a team with the lead just continue false starting to kill the clock?
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Post by emptybackfield on Nov 25, 2013 8:30:13 GMT -6
I don't really think that choice was that unconventional due to the weather. The most unconventional thing I have done was putting pretty much 10 guys on the LOS and going direct snap. Choosing to kick is very unconventional, it doesn't matter what the weather is doing, in my opinion. It's been done twice in the NFL in recent memory, maybe ever, that most certainly makes it unconventional.
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