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Post by Coach Bennett on Feb 27, 2014 5:32:06 GMT -6
Sounds like an oxymoron, doesn't it? I feel like we have more and more types of these kids in our program. Of course, we still have kids that work their tail off hoping to win a spot as well as the athlete who thinks he's better than he is and doesn't do a thing.
What strategies do you use for the kid who is in the weight room, goes to camp, etc. and may even be the best at his position (or not) but is entitled nonetheless?
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Post by dubber on Feb 27, 2014 7:18:25 GMT -6
So.....
He comes to weights, works his tail off, doesn't miss camps, is your best athlete at the position......
AND he expects to start?
Coach, I don't know what he could be thinking......(insert winking smiley face guy here)
I suppose I need clarification on what the problem is......
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Post by emptybackfield on Feb 27, 2014 7:18:33 GMT -6
Sounds like an oxymoron, doesn't it? I feel like we have more and more types of these kids in our program. Of course, we still have kids that work their tail off hoping to win a spot as well as the athlete who thinks he's better than he is and doesn't do a thing. What strategies do you use for the kid who is in the weight room, goes to camp, etc. and may even be the best at his position (or not) but is entitled nonetheless? Entitled to what? Playing time? |
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 27, 2014 7:29:07 GMT -6
I don't understand the problem either. I would love 20 of those kids on my team. If I was the best athlete at my position, worked my a$$ off in the weight room, never got in trouble....I sure better be starting.
When I first read the title of this thread I was thinking of the type of kid who shows up to every function, workout, meeting, etc but just isn't a good athlete and expects to be playing a lot.
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Post by Coach Bennett on Feb 27, 2014 7:40:37 GMT -6
Basically, entitled to playing time when they aren't the best player at the position, or they are the best (but still not that good) and feel they should be getting more balls their way. That said, they can be entirely serviceable and maybe even excel if they were concerned less about what they feel they should have and "got their mind right."
I'm good with the "keep on working hard, you're doing a great job and your team needs you, etc. speech" but I'm looking for additional conversations or strategies or approaches that have worked for you to keep the athlete not only engaged but contributing.
Working hard and not getting the results you want are a part of life; as coaches we know that. If it were as easy as just working hard, most of us would be state champs every year.
I'm clearly having a hard time articulating this but I feel it's easy to deal with kids who feel entitled to PT or being a captain or getting the ball but have zero work ethic.
Maybe a way to think about it is do you change your approach to dealing with an athlete if they do work hard, aren't getting what they want, and you're concerned about "losing them" one way or another.
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Post by coach2013 on Feb 27, 2014 10:19:27 GMT -6
Sounds like selfishness rather than entitlement.
They may well feel that they "have earned it" or they may just be arrogant, entitled, pampered and selfish.
I have one that believes he "should have a shot" as he puts it. He 'works hard" in his own mind, and in his parents mind but hes not only never going to be a number one, he wont be number two or three based on our current situation.
Some people are down right delusional and irrational when it comes to their ability and commitment level.
I had a kid running around the building telling everyone he was the leading sacker and interception leader too. He played JV. He didn't start more than maybe 3 games. He came out late and didn't have his paperwork complete and he never came to off season workouts. Real entitlement showed through as he was caught several times griping to teammates and even parents that he wasn't getting a fair shot.
He was so self centered that he never recognized the commitment and real effort of the guys ahead of him.
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 27, 2014 10:55:25 GMT -6
I would say it sounds more selfish "me" instead of "we".
We try to talk about your individual success is a product of the team's success not the other way around. It's a hard one to deal with especially if the kid has parents who enable selfishness.
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Post by carookie on Feb 27, 2014 11:02:43 GMT -6
Working hard and not getting the results you want are a part of life; as coaches we know that. If it were as easy as just working hard, most of us would be state champs every year. THIS is the crux of your problem; just gotta get the kids to understand that life isn't fair. The problem is we know that to be the best and reach our full potential we have to work hard; however your potential may be far less than someone elses potential (sorry folks but heart and desire lose out genetics 99 times out 100). Most of us don't go around espousing that though because then a lot of our young guys and back up players (who do play an important role) may end up quitting. Conversely all of our studs could take it to mean that since they are naturally better than a teammate they dont have to work as hard (gotta remind them that their goal isn't to be the best in the school, but better than every other school). I would try to re-inforce the importance of every role, remind them that everyone out here is a snap away from being on the field (next man up), and remind them of the intrinsic values of hard work (just because you are not the world champ doesnt mean you dont grow as a person from hard work). |
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Post by realdawg on Feb 28, 2014 5:13:37 GMT -6
Working hard doesn't give you the right to play. It gives you the opportunity to play. Big difference.
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Post by emptybackfield on Mar 1, 2014 13:40:43 GMT -6
Working hard doesn't give you the right to play. It gives you the opportunity to play. Big difference. Well said. I'm going to steal this. Thanks. |
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Post by ecj10 on Mar 1, 2014 16:29:42 GMT -6
I would say it sounds more selfish "me" instead of "we". We try to talk about your individual success is a product of the team's success not the other way around. It's a hard one to deal with especially if the kid has parents who enable selfishness. Yeah I would say the same thing. I don't let my players talk about "me" stats; only "we" stats. I coach receivers and I won't let my player say that "I had a heck of a game." it should be "We had a heck of a game." |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 16:38:10 GMT -6
Working hard doesn't give you the right to play. It gives you the opportunity to play. Big difference. I too agree with this post. It's why you should address both ends of the spectrum. If you tell kids that not showing up in the offseason means they won't play, it's only natural the ones who do show up automatically assume they will. This thought process needs addressed with them just as not showing up needs addressed with those kids. |
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Post by souza12 on Mar 8, 2014 12:43:42 GMT -6
Working hard and not getting the results you want are a part of life; as coaches we know that. If it were as easy as just working hard, most of us would be state champs every year. THIS is the crux of your problem; just gotta get the kids to understand that life isn't fair. I disagree. What he's doing is fair, I think he just needs to tell them straight up: You're not the best at your position. Want to start? You need to beat out so and so. All decisions made are whats best in the program. On the flip side of that, if this kid truly worked his ass off. I would do everything in my power to find playing time for him SOMEWHERE on the field. If he rejects it, well thats his problem. Ive seen some really hard working RBs who just werent good enough at RB or even TE but they were very good Guards |
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Post by tango on Mar 8, 2014 13:13:18 GMT -6
We have a 5.5 160 pound NG that works his butt off. I tell him each week you will get a chance but we may have to get you out. Sometimes he just wrecks every play. He was the best player at nose half the games but the other games he didn't get many plays. Won our big awards for effort.
Some of our kids think the position they play on the MS is where they will play. Nope!
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