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Post by utchuckd on Aug 16, 2007 6:40:16 GMT -6
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Post by utchuckd on Jun 28, 2006 13:33:40 GMT -6
We will do it depending on the type of offense we are looking at. If there's a lot of motion or misdirection, a coach will do it. But if its simpler stuff we let the kids do it.
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Post by utchuckd on Jan 31, 2006 17:26:35 GMT -6
Just got out of a coaches meeting where we decided we're going hurry-up no-huddle. So anybody that does this get ready for a bunch of questions! ;D
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 29, 2006 18:49:09 GMT -6
Here's a couple of pics from this week. ![](http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j148/utchuckd/Sled1.jpg) ![](http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j148/utchuckd/Sled3.jpg) My O-line coach reads this so let him have it! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 25, 2006 17:37:55 GMT -6
;D That's what my O-line coach said to me today!
Talked to one of my OL today after practice about it and he said 2 things about it:
1. If your hands are sweaty they slip off the sides so I'll have to work on that (I have some pipe insulation duct taped on it right now).
2. It makes you get your head up and look at what your doing or you'll miss it.
Sounds good to me so far.
We turned our big pads over originally like someone on here suggested, but we found that these are lower than the pads and force our guys to stay down low to push it.
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 25, 2006 11:44:27 GMT -6
![](http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j148/utchuckd/DSC00008.jpg) ![](http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j148/utchuckd/DSC00009.jpg) Saw a thread on here talking about how the wide pads on a sled promote OL getting their hands too wide. Had these made up and are gonna try them in camp. We'll put some padding on 'em and see what happens. What do you think?
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Post by utchuckd on Aug 10, 2006 6:19:18 GMT -6
We were gonna do it this year to kick off our camp. Brought it up in spring and kind of planned on it all summer, then a couple of weeks before camp the HC canned the idea cause he didn't wanna mess up our camp practice schedule. I think its a great idea and am gonna fight for it next year.
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 16, 2007 21:28:28 GMT -6
How far down do you platoon? JV obviously. What about freshmen?
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 16, 2007 21:01:33 GMT -6
Good points. We're just now getting a jv program really in gear and this is something we asked ourselves when figuring out we really need it and how to set it up.
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 16, 2007 20:54:48 GMT -6
Hey brophy- why don't you just come out and tell us how you feel? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) just kidding man. You make some excellent points that I agree with. Oh, and don't kid yourself, you're a heck of a salesman.
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 16, 2007 19:54:31 GMT -6
For us it's talent level. A lot of times we have 1 or 2 guys that athletically are just head and shoulders above the rest. As much as I like the idea of platooning I think there are some guys that will have to go both ways.
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 16, 2007 19:49:07 GMT -6
I understand but I guess I didn't make my point clear. I meant to extend that all the way through the lineup. I think we're saying close to the same thing. I agree that there's gonna be 2 or 3 or 4 guys that pretty well should go both ways, but past them if I have about 18 guys that are roughly equal (given that those numbers break down and even out into each postion group), wouldn't you be better off splitting them in half and teaching each side offense or defense exclusively?
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 16, 2007 17:46:02 GMT -6
I hear what your saying khalfie. But say I've got 8 lineman type kids, 2 of which are beasts that probably should play both ways,and 6 that are in the 5-11 to 6-1, 200 to 230 lb range, some a little taller, some a little wider, but basically the same kid. Outside of the 2 studs, would I not be better teaching half the kids offense and half the kids defense all the time? Just choose the line as an example, like if I have 6 kids that are 6' to 6-3, 180-190 lbs, why not teach half of them to be wings and half to be SS/OLB's? Does that make sense?
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 16, 2007 15:55:06 GMT -6
Good point brophy. Although I do have some of those kids that can't run 10 yards. And when I put together a 2 platoon depth chart they creep up it real quick. But if I take the top 6-7 linemen and use them in a rotation looks a lot better than going 2 deep across the line. That way you've got a starting 5 and a couple of guys to rotate in to keep guys fresh and in case of injury.
How do you do this if your platooning? Aren't your offense and defense #1's on separate ends of the field?
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 15, 2007 10:06:46 GMT -6
We would do offense and defense every day. I also think there's gonna be one or two or three kids that go both ways, but I think that could be worked out.
What we do now is split it up as much as possible, especially on the line, with the starters on one side a lot of the time being the seconds on the other side. The past two years we were lucky and only had one starting o-lineman playing both ways (as a LB), and no DL played both ways. Plus we had a couple of extra guys that were right there with them so we had a rotation going to keep them fresh as well as a couple of OL would rotate into the DL.
Another thing we have talked about is split the team into two units, one primarily offense and one primarily defense and split the staff into offense and defense. Then during practice that week the offense/defense groups would spend 60-70(?) per cent of the time with that group of coaches, and then spend the remaining 30ish percent with the opposite group of coaches to get some work and at least the game plan installed on that side of the ball.
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 15, 2007 7:29:39 GMT -6
Just sitting here drinking my coffee and trolling around through some old threads and got to thinking. Every so often we as a staff kick around going 2 platoon. We're starting to get enough players out where it's a possibility but here's our biggest issue: We can pretty well make out an offense/defense starting lineup and feel ok with it but our problem comes with the backups. I know that going 2 platoon will bump some kids that are 2nd stringers up to starter, but they will be getting more reps and become better players, and I like that idea. But it seems like it will also bump 3rd and 4th string guys up to 2nd on the depth chart, and for a lot of our 3rd and 4th guys it doesn't matter how many reps they get it would be a scary proposition to roll them out there on Friday night. They are either pretty young or just inexperienced and need some more development. I'm assuming that if you're platooning then your 1's are gonna play every snap outside of an injury, but it scares me to think that if somebody tweaks an ankle in the middle of a drive then we're gonna have to run a kid out there who can't make it through an agility ladder without kicking it across the practice field. Is this a valid concern? For you guys that platoon how much do your twos play not counting injuries?
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 25, 2007 17:43:51 GMT -6
airraider- check your pm.
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Post by utchuckd on Aug 25, 2006 8:54:00 GMT -6
Great line. Do you mind if I put it in my QB manual next year? ;D
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Post by utchuckd on Oct 15, 2007 9:54:45 GMT -6
I had to do it here in Tennessee as a non-faculty coach. It was a 2 day deal for us. The school picked up the cost for it though.
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Post by utchuckd on Dec 2, 2006 9:53:43 GMT -6
Gameday is doing a segment on the Army-Navy game which reminded me of the book A Civil War by John Feinstein. Its a few years old but I just read it this year. Well worth it. Btw Paul Johnson's name is getting thrown around with all the jobs opening up in college ball. Anybody gonna hire a pure option guy in high D-1?
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 22, 2007 15:47:20 GMT -6
"The road to the (Region/State) Championship runs through the Weight Room."
I second the mirrors, too.
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Post by utchuckd on Oct 12, 2006 8:27:29 GMT -6
Weather is starting to change here in Tennessee. Been in the 70's this week but supposed to be in the 30's to 40's for Friday nights game. It's the time of year I'm glad I'm in the press box.
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Post by utchuckd on Dec 26, 2006 22:28:45 GMT -6
Robert Earl Keen Live at the Ryman DVD.
Gonna get an AFCA membership for myself as a Christmas present.
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 17, 2007 7:05:28 GMT -6
Great post.
Great thread. Don't have much to add other than I also know how hard it can be weighing the good of the program vs. helping a kid that you don't want to give up on.
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Post by utchuckd on Nov 2, 2006 19:50:45 GMT -6
One of the classics we see is both guards pulling on a trap and running smack into each other. Usually happens on our film ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) , but actually saw someone else do it this year.
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Post by utchuckd on Aug 18, 2006 7:42:56 GMT -6
Good Luck!
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 25, 2007 18:30:25 GMT -6
This is the culture we're trying to figure out how to instill here.
Agree totally.
We're not waiting til August to exert control. We're trying to use this as a way to say hey, in 4 months you've got to do this, so you need to be here getting ready for it.
But we do spend the time and do believe in the development programs. What we're trying to do is find a way to get everybody to come and take advantage of what we can do for them and the team.
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 23, 2007 20:37:22 GMT -6
Totally agree. Definitely something we have to consider.
Talking, prodding, cajoling, bending over backwards to do everything we can for the kids, but some just won't be there the whole time or give it everything they have when they are. What do you do when some of your kids that lay out of workouts or don't show up most of the summer are still some of your best players when you roll them all out on to the field? They can physically be head and shoulders above the others, but there's some trust issues if they won't commit to the team.
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 23, 2007 7:11:00 GMT -6
Sorry if I didn't make that clear. We were trying to think of ways to encourage summer workout attendance. One thing we talked about was telling them when we report for fall camp everybody's gonna have to run (this much) in (this much time). So if they come for the summer they will be able to knock it out. Or maybe add or subtract time depending on attendance?
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 22, 2007 22:11:27 GMT -6
Does anybody do a fitness test when your players report for fall camp? If so what do you do? How does attendance at summer workouts affect it? What happens if they don't pass?
Thanks.
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