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Sept 10, 2021 19:25:25 GMT -6
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Post by 19delta on Sept 10, 2021 19:25:25 GMT -6
"Dancing Bear" - a big guy with good feet.
ERW - Eat, Ride, Watch. Kid who eats the pre-game meal, rides the bus to the game, and then watches from the sideline because there is no way he's getting in! 🤣
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Post by 19delta on Sept 9, 2021 18:23:23 GMT -6
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Post by 19delta on Sept 7, 2021 20:03:36 GMT -6
Apparently the Bishop Sycamore coach has said that they "are not a school and that there was a misunderstanding." That is bananas. Someone is going to jail over this. There has to be tens of thousands of dollars in unpaid bills. It's got to be wire/mail fraud, at the very least.
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Post by 19delta on Sept 7, 2021 17:09:21 GMT -6
I think how a locker room looks, how a team cleans up a weight room, how players treat the janitors and ladies that helps serve them meals...that stuff matters. Haircuts, facial hair, earrings, wearing a orange wristband for no reason...that doesn't matter. Yep. Agreed. There is definitely a line between the stuff that should matter and the stuff that shouldn't.
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Post by 19delta on Sept 5, 2021 21:00:26 GMT -6
When you get into these discussions, there's a lot of factors that go into "success". As a guy who probably, from the outside, looked like a hot steaming mess of a coach/program (example- I didn't give two shits what kids wore to games), there are things that people swear by that makes them X,Y and Z and other people don't see that as a big deal. There is no magic bullet. That being said, I did make sure the weight room got cleaned up. Mostly because I always said if you treat the weight room right, it will treat you right. And, it was going to be me cleaning it up by myself if the kids didn't. That being said, my messy ass is 1-0 lifetime against that program you mention delt. The sun shines on every dog's ass eventually. 😉 I'm not talking about 1 game. I'm talking about programs that have been consistently good for a really long time. For example, the team I'm talking about (which your team beat) last had a losing season in 1992. That was last century...😆 I just have to think that elite programs like that..their kids are racking their weights when they are done in the weight room and not leaving the ankle tape from Friday night's game on the locker room floor.
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Post by 19delta on Sept 5, 2021 16:41:15 GMT -6
This morning, I went into school to get my deadlift workout in. When I entered the weight room, there was equipment left out from the football team's Saturday morning film session the day before. Benches pulled out of squat racks, barbells not returned to storage racks, weights put away incorrectly. It was a mess. And not the first time I have found the weight room like this after the football team has used it.
This post isn't to ask anyone how to handle the situation. I already have taken care of that. Instead, it's more of a hypothesis I have about really good programs vs. everyone else.
We have a team in our conference that has won several state championships and produced an astounding number of scholarship football players for a school of 250 kids. My hypothesis is that if I were to walk into that school's weight room after the football team finished lifting, nothing would be out of place. Equipment would be put away and the weight room would look immaculate. Along the same lines, I would assume that if I went into their locker room at any point during the football season, there would be no trash, used athletic tape, grass and dirt from the practice field, or equipment and clothing strewn about.
The team I'm talking about doesn't make a lot of mistakes. They don't turn the ball over nor do they commit a lot of stupid penalties (pre snap or dead ball particularly). Of course, there are lots of factors far more important to sustained, long-term success for a high school football program than an orderly weight room and a clean locker room, but is there a correlation? Teams that have a long history of success...do those coaches struggle with getting kids to respect the weight room, the locker room, and other places that should be considered sacrosanct? And secondly, does anyone else think that there is a connection to a team that respects the weight room and the locker room and is also disciplined on the field?
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Post by 19delta on Sept 1, 2021 18:56:18 GMT -6
Probst is a bad dude, no doubt. But that Nub Nelson guy is a real piece of work! 😆
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Post by 19delta on Sept 1, 2021 16:01:42 GMT -6
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Post by 19delta on Aug 29, 2021 21:38:18 GMT -6
It is sad to see how many I came in with that once football was over for them have walked away from school all together as it seemed that football was likely their only reason for coming to the school at all. Retention is clearly not a priority at many D3 schools as there is a huge amount of turnover. As long as the HFC hits the roster number, it doesn't matter who the kids are.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 29, 2021 16:00:00 GMT -6
My brother used to coach women's college basketball at the JUCO level. To his credit, one of the many reasons he doesn't anymore is that he felt slimy recruiting girls that he knew would never play in his program, he was just under orders from his administration to have a roster of at least 18 girls. I think that was the number anyway... Yes, I have heard, second hand mind you, that some football coaches at D3 schools get extra $$ if more than a certain number of freshman enroll to play football.  I would be shocked if roster size was not one of the routine things on which D3 football coaches are evaluated.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 29, 2021 15:56:32 GMT -6
The school he is at now is about $35,000/yr. His scholarship is a out $26,000/yr. I don't remember the other schools but they were more or less comparable. tuition or total cost? Total cost is about $35,000/year. Includes room and board.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 28, 2021 18:37:13 GMT -6
We visited about 3-4 D3 schools. It appears that every D3 school has a "(Insert Mascot Name) Scholarship" that has some minor academic requirements and are awarded to top students who are going to play sports at the school. The catch is that not everyone gets the scholarship. That probably explains the D3 football teams that have 125+ players on the roster. The kids who aren't getting the (Insert Mascot Name) Scholarship are probably subsidizing the kids who are getting the IMN Scholarship. 😆 Do you recall what the final cost would have been at those schools with and without schollie? The school he is at now is about $35,000/yr. His scholarship is a out $26,000/yr. I don't remember the other schools but they were more or less comparable.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 28, 2021 18:00:41 GMT -6
Yeah. I know of quite a few kids who went to a school simply to play football and it didn't work out. Either the kid found out they weren't good enough to play, the school didn't have the academic program they wanted or school was simply too expensive. My kid is attending a D3 school and playing football. However, the school has the degree program he wants and he has a substantial academic scholarship. Exactly. It sounds like football is an extra-curricular just like if someone want to a school and chose to participate in any other student organization available (albeit football probably has a substantial time requirement). That is how I think things should be handled. We visited about 3-4 D3 schools. It appears that every D3 school has a "(Insert Mascot Name) Scholarship" that has some minor academic requirements and are awarded to top students who are going to play sports at the school. The catch is that not everyone gets the scholarship. That probably explains the D3 football teams that have 125+ players on the roster. The kids who aren't getting the (Insert Mascot Name) Scholarship are probably subsidizing the kids who are getting the IMN Scholarship. 😆
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Post by 19delta on Aug 28, 2021 8:37:53 GMT -6
What's the difference between NCAA D3 and NAIA football programs? Are they comparable? Are there NAIA Division 1 football programs? Or are all NAIA football programs Division 2? Why would a college join the NAIA rather than the NCAA? If I can piggie back a bit on the thread and ask something that may be less than well received here on this site...why would a student choose to go to an NAIA or NCAA D3 school TO PLAY FOOTBALL? Note, my question is asked in a specific manner.  In our perverted recruiting environment where it seems the goal is to be able to post a twitter message saying "blessed to receive" I have noticed an increasing number of kids posting that they were blessed to receive "offers" to schools in which attendance doesn't make a great deal of sense. For example a kid from the south bayous of Louisiana being "blessed to receive" an offer MidAmerica Nazarene University in Kansas, or multiple examples of kids "receiving offers" from a private D3 school a little more local (about 4/5 hours away) with a nice $30,000 a semester price tag.  I think it is a travesty for those kids to go to schools like that to play football. Now, if that kid was already planning on going to those schools, and football is an option--that is different. I don't know how often that is the case. Yeah. I know of quite a few kids who went to a school simply to play football and it didn't work out. Either the kid found out they weren't good enough to play, the school didn't have the academic program they wanted or school was simply too expensive. My kid is attending a D3 school and playing football. However, the school has the degree program he wants and he has a substantial academic scholarship.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 24, 2021 16:07:44 GMT -6
What's the difference between NCAA D3 and NAIA football programs? Are they comparable?
Are there NAIA Division 1 football programs? Or are all NAIA football programs Division 2?
Why would a college join the NAIA rather than the NCAA?
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Post by 19delta on Aug 15, 2021 13:11:59 GMT -6
I was at a school, first year there as an assistant, we were in our first day of summer camp. Had a good first practice, no conditioning, just drills, not in pads, got done about 10 am. The player cleans up and goes to work. Works his shift, goes home for supper. He does his normal stuff, gets down to do his pushups before going to bed and dies. They knew he had a large heart. He did football all through school, in fact he was a senior. That's a sad story.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 15, 2021 12:21:52 GMT -6
Our state doesn't require a wet bulb it is suggested. When our state requires it and make sure everyone follows it then will see. There can be a lot of reasons behind a death and going by a story from social media as being the final say is feeble. I disagree. There aren't "a lot of reasons behind a death". As I stated earlier, the VAST majority of these deaths fall into 1 of 2 categories. And anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that deaths related to overexertion during excessive heat are far more common than kids dying from an undiagnosed heart condition.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 15, 2021 12:16:50 GMT -6
I honestly don't know if there's a set guideline in Iowa. We actually had a JV game canceled a few years ago because we played an IL team and it wasn't supposed to get below the threshold until 8 or 8:30 that night. Here's the thing, though. I can't remember an instance when a kid died during a game of heat-related causes. It seems that the vast majority of these deaths occur during practices.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 13, 2021 15:42:45 GMT -6
6-3, 389lbs. I think what larrymoe said earlier in this thread probably applies. Yes. His dad is quoted as saying "He was a big kid, but he was a healthy big kid." You are NOT healthy when your BMI is 48.6, well above the standard for Morbid Obesity. The physician that "forgot" to sign a form for him to participate should have refused. Throw in Heat Index of 105 and you have recipe for disaster. The young man should not have been on the field. Totally preventable death. Here's the thing though... The coaches initially did not let the kid practice because he didn't have his paperwork in. But then the doctor signed off and the kid had all his forms in. I guess a better way to approach a situation like this would be to establish procedures for handling kids who show up for practice this badly out of shape.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 13, 2021 13:53:09 GMT -6
6-3, 389lbs. I think what larrymoe said earlier in this thread probably applies.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 13, 2021 7:47:37 GMT -6
I'm assuming the kid eats like sh*t. Probably a lot of cheesy, fried, greasy stuff. Is he lactose intolerant, by chance? I have far worse gas when I eat cleaner than I do when it's bad for me. I have never smelled worse than when I weighed 255 and was clean eating. I doubt highly that a high school kid is eating clean.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 12, 2021 21:31:47 GMT -6
So, I coach a HS Football team. One of my players shows great potential on the field, but he keeps disrupting practice when he farts. He farts several times per practice, and has also stunk up the locker room on multiple occasions. I've tried reprimanding him, making him do extra pushups, sprints, etc., and even told his parents about the situation. But, no matter the approach I try, it goes through one of his ears and out of the other. The other boys don't even laugh anymore when he farts, they're mortified. How do I stop this excessive farting behavior? I'm assuming the kid eats like sh*t. Probably a lot of cheesy, fried, greasy stuff. Is he lactose intolerant, by chance?
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Post by 19delta on Aug 12, 2021 21:28:48 GMT -6
I had a athlete that had some intestinal problems. His farts could drop a horse. I had him sit in the hall when he felt a episode come on. In sports he was able to move so he could go off and take care of business. The thing here is he doesn't care. If it interrupts practice that bad and he won't change then he needs to be away from the squad. Make him a filmer. I would put him in the press box with the opposite team. Always talk with administration and ask for help or counselor. I can't believe parents are not going to try and help. That stinks. Used to work with a PE teacher/basketball coach who had irritable bowel syndrome. When he was having a rough day, he would let us know first thing in the morning and we would all steer clear of the coaches office.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 12, 2021 21:25:39 GMT -6
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Post by 19delta on Aug 12, 2021 10:01:55 GMT -6
New York: Up Downs but I have heard Grass Drills... We had an old school coach who would say... "Coach, time to get them up and down!" "Get'em chopping!!" I worked for a guy years ago who would simply yell out, "Choppity-Chop!"
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Post by 19delta on Aug 12, 2021 10:00:27 GMT -6
It's easy to take shots at a program with a dead kid when all you read is a two paragraph news article. Certainly, there are programs with dumb coaches that make dumb decisions and it's a miracle they don't lose more kids. There are also programs with conscientious coaches that happen to have a player with an unknown medical issue.
I was in a program where the HC was so worried about the effect that heat would have on kids that he made wholesale changes to practice structure when heat hit 90+ (which was nearly all the time in southern California) - moved practices to mornings, watered kids literally every 10 minutes, checked in with the kids all the time "you guys okay? do we need a rest?". It was frustrating to the staff but we understood and dealt with it. Then one practice a kid with a congenital heart defect collapsed and we lost him. It was a morning practice that had only been underway for about 40 minutes. Fortunately for me, I was not at the practice because I was in a business meeting. In spite of being surrounded by a bunch of ambulance chasers the family did not attempt to hold the coaches or school responsible. Still, the HC and several AC's quit and never coached again. If I had seen that child laying there going out of the picture I don't know that I could have stepped back on the field. Heck, I saw a kid compound fracture his leg and it still haunts me.
One thing to add - there were comments from ignorant fools that blamed the coaches for this kid's death. Said we worked them too hard, it was too hot to be practicing in the heat of the day, etc.
It seems to me that the vast majority of these incidents fall into two categories. Either the player who died had an undiagnosed heart condition or the coaches exercised poor judgement. Deaths that fall in the first category are a tragedy and can't be prevented but the deaths that occur as a result of ignorant adults are inexcuseable and need to be prosecuted fully. That shouldn't be a controversial opinion.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 11, 2021 20:40:15 GMT -6
Some pretty good ones in NCAA D3:
Amherst Mammoths Austin Kangaroos Bowdoin Polar Bears (couple other Polar Bears) Franklin and Marshall Diplomats Heidelberg Student Princes Knox Prairie Fire McDaniel Green Terror Both NC and Onion Weselyan are Battling Bishops Tufts Jumbos Wabash Little Giants
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Post by 19delta on Aug 11, 2021 17:05:45 GMT -6
wow,some of you guys are really jerks. How about "don't the play the kid" until there is contrition or the detrimental behavior stops? Ideally, that is the best solution. But, just to play devil's advocate, what if it is a kid who is really far down on the depth chart and doesn't play much anyway?
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Post by 19delta on Aug 11, 2021 10:49:47 GMT -6
That's terrible. How does this happen?
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Post by 19delta on Aug 11, 2021 9:48:29 GMT -6
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