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Post by larrymoe on Aug 30, 2021 18:50:37 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on Aug 30, 2021 19:44:05 GMT -6
That's unbelievable. I saw a little of the game, too. I was a little puzzled because I'd never heard of Bishop Sycamore but didn't think much of it since I'm not from Ohio. Seems like ESPN would have done a cursory check on them. At least one of their recruiting gurus might have been curious.
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Post by 53 on Aug 30, 2021 20:14:52 GMT -6
Crazy thing is that Bishop played a game Friday before this one.
That’s a quick turn and burn.
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Post by fantom on Aug 30, 2021 20:21:49 GMT -6
The "coach" has an active arrest warrant out on him. How stupid do you have to be to go on national TV with a make believe team while there's a warrant out for you?
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Post by 44dlcoach on Aug 30, 2021 21:48:02 GMT -6
So many unanswered questions,haha. Where do they practice?? Do they practice? Do these kids go to other, real schools? How did they get their equipment? And I want to know who they played the previous Friday? What a crazy story.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 30, 2021 21:56:46 GMT -6
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Post by fkaboneyard on Aug 31, 2021 7:50:03 GMT -6
What a dumpster fire. I can't stand watching those IMG games on ESPN, it's not really high school. If I want to watch college I'll watch good college football.
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Post by spreadattack on Aug 31, 2021 9:09:42 GMT -6
So many unanswered questions,haha. Where do they practice?? Do they practice? Do these kids go to other, real schools? How did they get their equipment? And I want to know who they played the previous Friday? What a crazy story. there are clips of players sharing helmets during the game floating around. a lot of these kids seem to have been sold a bill of goods - but yes, so many questions |
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Post by wingtol on Aug 31, 2021 9:13:59 GMT -6
Yup played Friday against a 2A team (second smallest in PA) and LOST then IMG on Sunday. If they keep this squad going I saw they play in Kentucky, Texas, Ohio, Maryland, Ct, Maryland and VA. How are they gonna get to all those games???
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Post by fantom on Aug 31, 2021 9:58:15 GMT -6
Yup played Friday against a 2A team (second smallest in PA) and LOST then IMG on Sunday. If they keep this squad going I saw they play in Kentucky, Texas, Ohio, Maryland, Ct, Maryland and VA. How are they gonna get to all those games??? Obviously thry play so many out of state games so that their coach can fight extradition. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Aug 31, 2021 10:10:09 GMT -6
ESPN is not the one that got duped. ESPN only broadcasts these games. There is another company that goes about putting all these nationally televised games together. Now does ESPN ultimately have responsibility for what they show, yes but Paragon goes all the leg work and then ESPN sells the ad space and broadcasts.
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Post by fantom on Aug 31, 2021 10:27:24 GMT -6
ESPN is not the one that got duped. ESPN only broadcasts these games. There is another company that goes about putting all these nationally televised games together. Now does ESPN ultimately have responsibility for what they show, yes but Paragon goes all the leg work and then ESPN sells the ad space and broadcasts. Yesh but it's always fun to mock ESPN, especially for us old-timers who miss World's Strongest Man and Aussie Rules football. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Aug 31, 2021 10:32:52 GMT -6
ESPN is not the one that got duped. ESPN only broadcasts these games. There is another company that goes about putting all these nationally televised games together. Now does ESPN ultimately have responsibility for what they show, yes but Paragon goes all the leg work and then ESPN sells the ad space and broadcasts. Yesh but it's always fun to mock ESPN, especially for us old-timers who miss World's Strongest Man and Aussie Rules football. Don't they put those on the Ocho? |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 31, 2021 11:00:05 GMT -6
ESPN is not the one that got duped. ESPN only broadcasts these games. There is another company that goes about putting all these nationally televised games together. Now does ESPN ultimately have responsibility for what they show, yes but Paragon goes all the leg work and then ESPN sells the ad space and broadcasts. True, BUT as one of the leading perverters of the recruiting system, and one of the creators of the "blessed to receive" culture, it seems fairly obvious someone should have said "uh, guys, never heard of these people" |
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Post by silkyice on Aug 31, 2021 12:15:33 GMT -6
This will be a 30 for 30 in 10 years. If only this happened on April 1st...
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Post by blb on Aug 31, 2021 13:11:33 GMT -6
Heard on FOX Sports Radio this afternoon that the "school" has fired the head coach.
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Post by larrymoe on Aug 31, 2021 13:21:15 GMT -6
ESPN is not the one that got duped. ESPN only broadcasts these games. There is another company that goes about putting all these nationally televised games together. Now does ESPN ultimately have responsibility for what they show, yes but Paragon goes all the leg work and then ESPN sells the ad space and broadcasts. Yesh but it's always fun to mock ESPN, especially for us old-timers who miss World's Strongest Man and Aussie Rules football. Aussie football is my favorite game to watch. Pure entertainment. I don't understand the first thing about what's happening, but good God it's entertaining. |
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Post by carookie on Aug 31, 2021 15:39:57 GMT -6
So many unanswered questions,haha. Where do they practice?? Do they practice? Do these kids go to other, real schools? How did they get their equipment? And I want to know who they played the previous Friday? What a crazy story. there are clips of players sharing helmets during the game floating around. a lot of these kids seem to have been sold a bill of goods - but yes, so many questions Hopefully it starts to shine more of a light on these snake oil salesmen and then programs they run. There are so many of these wanna-be IMG academies out here that its gone insane. They sell themselves as football schools, and start poaching kids as young as elementary, parents buy in and fork over the $$$. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 31, 2021 15:51:34 GMT -6
there are clips of players sharing helmets during the game floating around. a lot of these kids seem to have been sold a bill of goods - but yes, so many questions Hopefully it starts to shine more of a light on these snake oil salesmen and then programs they run. There are so many of these wanna-be IMG academies out here that its gone insane. They sell themselves as football schools, and start poaching kids as young as elementary, parents buy in and fork over the $$$. Is that what Sycamore is? I thought it marketed itself as an opportunity online-only charter post-graduate prep school. They lost to Massillon last year 35-0. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 17:21:15 GMT -6
Crazy thing is that Bishop played a game Friday before this one. That’s a quick turn and burn. When the whole thing is a money racket, it’s not that surprising. They aren’t even part of the state association and are basically a semi-pro team pretending to be a HS team. According to a former player (or at least someone who claims to be a former player) the whole team spent the season living in a hotel after being shown pictures of lavish facilities—the hotel and all the team’s bills were paid for for with bounced checks until they were finally evicted and started sleeping on the floor of a single house. Dude says they only went to the library once for “class.” The rumor is that most of the team are HS graduates with a bunch of “JuCo dropouts” on the roster. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 17:22:44 GMT -6
Yup played Friday against a 2A team (second smallest in PA) and LOST then IMG on Sunday. If they keep this squad going I saw they play in Kentucky, Texas, Ohio, Maryland, Ct, Maryland and VA. How are they gonna get to all those games??? According to a former player, the “coach” pays for everything with bounced checks, so cost is no option. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 17:28:22 GMT -6
Heard on FOX Sports Radio this afternoon that the "school" has fired the head coach. That’s weird. Evidently the head coach *was* the school as recently as a couple of years ago. It’d be funny if the same “coach” is patrolling the sidelines of their next game in a fake mustache and wig… |
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Post by tog on Aug 31, 2021 17:46:47 GMT -6
just another example of espn ruining the game
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Post by carookie on Aug 31, 2021 18:29:15 GMT -6
Hopefully it starts to shine more of a light on these snake oil salesmen and then programs they run. There are so many of these wanna-be IMG academies out here that its gone insane. They sell themselves as football schools, and start poaching kids as young as elementary, parents buy in and fork over the $$$. Is that what Sycamore is? I thought it marketed itself as an opportunity online-only charter post-graduate prep school. They lost to Massillon last year 35-0. I don't know if thats what they are, I meant just bring light to the whole business of sleaziness in general. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 31, 2021 19:00:37 GMT -6
Is that what Sycamore is? I thought it marketed itself as an opportunity online-only charter post-graduate prep school. They lost to Massillon last year 35-0. I don't know if thats what they are, I meant just bring light to the whole business of sleaziness in general. What I dislike most is that apparently they are playing HS teams as a Prep team. |
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Post by carookie on Aug 31, 2021 19:25:07 GMT -6
I don't know if thats what they are, I meant just bring light to the whole business of sleaziness in general. What I dislike most is that apparently they are playing HS teams as a Prep team. Haha, you should look up CETYS. Its a small college in northern Mexico that will occasionally play against American high school teams in the Imperial Valley (small farming community in southern California). My dad played against them in the 70s, and my cousin in the late 90s. My dad said some players would show up with their wife and kids in tow. But I dont remember ever hearing about them winning. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 31, 2021 19:40:01 GMT -6
What I dislike most is that apparently they are playing HS teams as a Prep team. Haha, you should look up CETYS. Its a small college in northern Mexico that will occasionally play against American high school teams in the Imperial Valley (small farming community in southern California). My dad played against them in the 70s, and my cousin in the late 90s. My dad said some players would show up with their wife and kids in tow. But I dont remember ever hearing about them winning. But is CETYS putting themselves off as a HS team? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 19:49:54 GMT -6
Hopefully it starts to shine more of a light on these snake oil salesmen and then programs they run. There are so many of these wanna-be IMG academies out here that its gone insane. They sell themselves as football schools, and start poaching kids as young as elementary, parents buy in and fork over the $$$. Is that what Sycamore is? I thought it marketed itself as an opportunity online-only charter post-graduate prep school. They lost to Massillon last year 35-0. According to a guy claiming to be a former player, there is no school, or at least there wasn’t a year or two ago—not even an online program. Then again, the same guy said he was literally starving from lack of food and had to steal to survive while he was there, so hopefully he’s just saying things for attention. Their website is reported to be very poorly made (I looked but could not find it) with zero info about academics but it does have a blog about recruiting. Their social media presence doesn’t even have a link to that site. It’s all football and recruiting stuff. This reminds me of the “independent private schools” who are basically private football programs with a sham school attached that have popped up in the last few years. In particular, I’m thinking of the one that David Stills’ dad put together after he was “offered” by Lane Kiffin as a 7th grade QB in particular. Bishop Sycamore seems like a variation on that model, but with even shadier dealings behind the scenes. IMG is at least up front about what it is and it (supposedly) has a legit academic program. |
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Post by carookie on Aug 31, 2021 19:51:34 GMT -6
Haha, you should look up CETYS. Its a small college in northern Mexico that will occasionally play against American high school teams in the Imperial Valley (small farming community in southern California). My dad played against them in the 70s, and my cousin in the late 90s. My dad said some players would show up with their wife and kids in tow. But I dont remember ever hearing about them winning. But is CETYS putting themselves off as a HS team? No, and im not implying they were. More just an interesting and funny anecdote |
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Post by Defcord on Sept 1, 2021 3:11:38 GMT -6
ESPN is not the one that got duped. ESPN only broadcasts these games. There is another company that goes about putting all these nationally televised games together. Now does ESPN ultimately have responsibility for what they show, yes but Paragon goes all the leg work and then ESPN sells the ad space and broadcasts. I don’t buy this at all. ESPN is responsible for what makes it on the air. They use these organizations because they want someone to blame when they mess up and accidentally highlight a coach that has a bad past or a player involved in shady business or schedule a game with a fake school. They are at very least negligent in the matter if they don’t have to take direct blame. It’s all just funny to me though. No one really got hurt that I’ve heard so its just silliness. |
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