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Post by silkyice on Dec 2, 2019 11:45:38 GMT -6
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Post by silkyice on Dec 2, 2019 6:58:58 GMT -6
I don’t think anyone would say the is a “bad” call. But, you have to realize that means you are playing for overtime. Which, again, is not a “bad”, it just doesn’t maximize your chances of winning that particular game. How many of you factor in playing for OT vs. the win when at home vs. when on the road? I think on the road you are more aggressive, vs. at home, but that's just been my preference over the years. I also think you are more aggressive when you're the underdog too. Duece Agree. Especially being the underdog.
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Post by silkyice on Dec 1, 2019 7:54:32 GMT -6
Congrats!!!
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Post by silkyice on Nov 27, 2019 9:37:03 GMT -6
I have never seen a ref not keep the defense off the offense in the past 7-10 years. And let's be honest, that game you won was at least 25+ years ago. Yep it was. But I have coached much more recently, and have never seen a ref tell the D to lay off. Now, tell them "don't do anything stupid" sure. "if you get ejected here you can't play next week" absolutely. Whistle and run in once QB kneels..always. But not letting the DLine come off the ball..Never . My example was two years ago. Also, why can’t the refs tell the other team they can’t rush if you are in shotgun?
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Post by silkyice on Nov 27, 2019 9:33:03 GMT -6
Why is it a better play? The chances of a bad snap in gun are 1000 times higher the further you get from center. Plus, if you're under center and tell the refs you're taking a knee, you can snap it as slow as you want because they defense can't rush. Again, not true in all cases. I have read about officials telling the D to relax, but have never experienced it. In fact we actually won a game in HS on a failed hand to hand center exchange when I was playing. Almost won a semi-final game on this exact scenario. Gun team. Picked ball off late in game on 4th down. Should have knocked it down, but didn’t. Have to take a knee. Go under center. I told the refs that weren’t going to back off here due to where the ball was, the fact they were a gun team, and that it was the semi’s. We were going to force them to execute. 30 seconds left and we had timeouts and ball inside the 5. Well we have two 330 pound nose guards. Put them both in A gaps and get ball back on first snap. Only reason we don’t score is because of a bullcrap hold on the first play. End up kicking 38 yard fg to tie as time expired and lost in OT. What you are failing to understand is two things. You can pressure that snap and exchange and qb when under center. And the most important thing you are missing is, if there is a bad snap, you can get it. The ball is right there. Your chances are as good or better than theirs. In the gun, almost zero pressure and very little pressure on a bad snap. Your still have time and room to jump on it. I have no proof but my own eyes, but I would bet that more snaps or lost under center than in the gun in general. And gun snaps that are lost come in two varieties. One, qb wasn’t expecting the snap, and two high or off snap. Well if you have 4 guys literally ready for the snap, qb, one each side, and one deep, you have just about eliminated those odds.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 27, 2019 8:24:14 GMT -6
Worse than that are the ones who shotgun snap to take a knee. Taking a knee from the shotgun is better play than taking on from under center unless you backed up inside the 5. And if you are a shotgun team, taking a knee under center is stupid since you have been in the gun all game. Now, you should still practice it for that one situation, but why change what you do? When we were a gun team, we just took a knee out of double tight. Had backs on both sides of qb and had a rb behind the qb 5 yards. I would much rather there be a bad snap in the gun in that situation 5 yards away from the defenses than under center 1 foot away from the defense.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 26, 2019 4:40:49 GMT -6
Well, after 20 years I'm heading to my first big dance! More than anything I wanted to thank all you guys that have helped me out along the way. Everything I've had my hands on that has been good has come from a post, email, or phone call from guys on this site. To those of you who frequent deep post season runs here are a couple question. #1 Is it always this exhausting?? You would think that ridding high on an undefeated season it would be a cake walk but that has not been the case. I am physically and emotionally exhausted even though I try to stay in pretty good shape. #2 What have you done to make this last week special? We want to keep things as normal as possible but is there anything you've done to make this week memorable? With Thanksgiving coming up, I'm doubting we will be doing a team dinner this week. #3 Were you able to stop and smell the roses? Everyone keeps reminding me to take time to breath it all in. I'm usually pretty good about that kind of stuff when it comes to life events but football has been different. It seems like once we head up to the locker room from the field game night, my mind is already scrambling to our next opponent. Thanks again fellas, and good luck to all of you still grinding this week! 1. Yes. 2. My advice is to keep it as normal as possible. The banquet, rings (if you win), t-shirts, etc. that follow can make it all more memorable. 3.. That being said, nothing wrong with stopping for a minute and soaking it in. But keep it at a minute.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 24, 2019 10:04:08 GMT -6
I don't care what ESPN says, if we are down 14 in the 4th and score a TD, we're kicking the extra point. Also we had a D1 kicker this year... I trust him enough to send him out as oppose to going for it on 4th and 4. I don’t think anyone would say the is a “bad” call. But, you have to realize that means you are playing for overtime. Which, again, is not a “bad”, it just doesn’t maximize your chances of winning that particular game.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 23, 2019 14:30:35 GMT -6
There is far too little information given for most of these questions (example- should you run or pass? You don't know the makeup of my team and the opposition, so how can you tell me I am right or wrong for making my choice). Also, the first question has little to do with situational football, it is essentially making the point that going for two is mathematically a better choice. But once again it is predicated off of Generic Team vs Generic Team, not enough information or too many variables that are not answered. I actually just read an article saying the same thing. Football, more so than any other sport, has so many factors that renders analytics to be less relevant. Not irrelevant, but less relevant. 4th and 4 on the -40 when we’re down 6:00-4:00 left in the 4thQ? We’re punting every time this season and not thinking twice. Our offense was not very good and we didn’t have the type of QB that we could trust to get this most of the time. We had a great punter (and align in offensive formation for quick kick ensuring no return), good defense and difference making returners. Much better chance for us to get the ball back and gain field position. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fun exercise and fun read, but I hope coaches aren’t using this to make future decisions. Agree. But the main purpose is think and think beforehand. Analytics are not always an exact science in major league baseball either. For instance, it used to be that you bunted no matter what with man on 1st and 2nd and no outs. Analytics showed that did not maximize runs. So teams don't really do that anymore. But, it still can be the right decision. If your pitcher is up, you should still bunt. If it is the last inning and you are down 1, you still should bunt even though it doesn't "maximize runs" that inning, it still gives you the best chance to tie or win the game.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 22, 2019 12:07:07 GMT -6
Just got them all correct.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 18, 2019 14:12:13 GMT -6
Honestly, if given the opportunity to hire a full time strength coach to work with all sports, I'm making sure they have the proper credentials, are a solid human being, keep athletes safe, engaged and enjoying their time in the room in addition to results from their work in the room, but other than that, I'm not going to tell someone who I hired to do a job what they can and can't do as far as exercises/movements/programs. If I did, how could I stop another coach from doing the same thing, which might be different than my philosophy, and then I've got two colleagues not on the same page, let the coach, coach. What about hiring an OC? Are going to ask what they run on offense first? I get your point, let them coach. But in the hiring process, I would sure find out what they do and how they do it.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 12, 2019 8:04:43 GMT -6
I've really noticed how the players with broken homes are the ones that always gravitate to me interacting with my kids after practice. THIS
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Post by silkyice on Nov 11, 2019 8:21:04 GMT -6
...and why does family need to be included at your job? Do the guys at the warehouse or the factory or even the bank employees include family time at work? I'm all for family and love and all that stuff...just not at work. (I'm the guy in the coaches office clenching my teeth as little heathens roll around in chairs and generally destroy the office and make the overall mood one that is impossible to get work done). I'll now wait for the politically correct bashing to begin... I actually agree with you for the most part, but will answer your question. Family doesn't have to be included. But, there are several good reasons that it should/could. One, football coaching is a different job. It probably doesn't actually pay the bills for assistant coaches. Many assistants are doing this for nominal pay or even volunteering. Two, the hours and time are much greater than a normal job. Getting home at 7-8 many nights is tough on a family. Getting home after midnight on game nights, having some weekend time, having a jv game during the week, and add in the fact that you are probably then also watching film or game planning while at home is a lot different than a factory job or working at a bank. If you have a family with young kids, most wives aren't going to be very supportive when this job takes up most of your "family time" for nominal money. As a head coach, if you want to have good assistants, then it is a good idea to keep them as happy as possible. I think most of would say that we are trying to be a good influence on the young men we coach. Including families is a great way to show the importance of being a great dad and balance in your life. The cool thing is that high school football usually has some easily built in functions that provide opportunities. I do agree with you that, it can't be a distraction to the work at hand. Meetings are not the place for kids.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 10, 2019 14:15:49 GMT -6
Nick Saban for example played in college at Kent State, a long-time D-I bottom feeder. Was never even an all-MAC player. Only because Kent State didn’t run Rip/Liz match.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 9, 2019 13:43:45 GMT -6
If FSU actually gives the job to him, that will be proof that Jimbo Fisher was smart to jump ship when he did. The whole is post is good and this sentence is almost correct. It will be “more” proof. I think the last two years have already proved it. Ha True. But I would also agree that recruiting and hiring a staff might be 1 and 2 or at least close to most important things a college HC does.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 8, 2019 16:29:33 GMT -6
Silkyice, When you let kids come to practice, do you wait until after practice to let them do things with the players? Do you somehow integrate them into a practice during the practice? I don’t wait until end. But they also are integrated. There are just enough opportunities to throw a ball with them or “tackle” them, or let them tackle a big kid. Mainly depends on their age and temperament. You could put one on your shoulders while in the huddle or hold scout sheets or break the huddle. Nothing to plan.
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Post by silkyice on Nov 8, 2019 14:54:33 GMT -6
Coaches, What are some things you can do to involve the families of your coaches in your program? What types of events can a head coach schedule at different parts of the year to accomplish family involvement? Let the kids come to practice. They will gave a blast. The players will take to them and make them feel special. Let them be ball boys/girls or water boys/girls. Etc. Invite them to team meals or outside functions. Maybe have family Wednesdays, etc. Let your coaches leave early if they need to. No, check that, demand they leave early if they need to. They should not miss a school play or kid’s ball game or whatever for practice or meetings. They don’t redo school plays or ball games.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 31, 2019 7:30:04 GMT -6
I just see a lot of moving parts in the punt scenario vs. the KO from the 20 scenario. Punting requires the snap and protection be good as well as the coverage. Punting from your own endzone usually requires you go to a tight punt formation which doesn't allow you to get guys in coverage quickly. The KO from your 20 yard line does not have these factors involved in them. My hats off to our opponent as they didn't go fast once they got the ball, they simply huddled every time. They only used one of their 2 timeouts in that span. Anyhow, so far this has been a very good discussion, but it hasn't changed my mind. I would still take the safety rather than punt. Duece I think that is a good and certainly acceptable decision. Let's go further with this. What are your limits (approximately) here? Meaning what yard line and what time makes this a regular punt. For me 4+ minutes and 10 yard line would be a punt decision. 2 minutes and 3 yard line are a definite safety decision. So in between those two numbers and two variable lies my break even point. But 4+ and 10 you are safety. What about 5+ and 15? And etc.? Note: I think you should regular punt from the 10. Why go tight punt here? I think you should only change to tight punt when the snap to punt distance changes.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 30, 2019 16:44:42 GMT -6
Our girls golf coach (granted...not football) told me this morning his team has to cancel a league match because the head coach (on campus teacher) has to attend a district wide professional development day!!! He was told by our Principal that he can "send another coach in his place". I don't mean to thread jack, but that is RIDICULOUS. If it were me I'd take a "personal day" and be with my kids. {censored} that. And now I'm hearing the other HS in the district doesn't mind if their coach has a match that day and the coach can go. I swear. Admin is a such a {censored} job. Fight important battles. Not the ones that aren't a big deal. I had this exchange with a former principal before, I taught elementary school and was the varsity head wrestling coach at a district school. Me- "Hey Dr. SoandSo, we made the state finals next weekend and I will have to be out Friday to travel to the event." Principal- "Coach, you were out last Friday to go coach, do you really need to be off 2 Friday's in a row?" Me- "Yes, I am the head coach and have to be there to coach the team. It isn't like I'm just taking back to back Friday's off for no reason, we are in the state finals." Principal- "Well, next year I may not allow you to coach since it is causing you to miss multiple Friday's in a row. I don't understand why you can't allow somebody else to take the team. I am going to have to think about if I am going to approve you to be off, and if not and you go anyway, I will be forced to write you up and place it in your file." Me- "No wonder the athletics in this district are a laughing stock. Somebody takes a team to the state finals in their first year and are asked if they can let somebody else coach the team. IF you don't approve me to be off, I will not come, and you can just write me up. This is insane, you have teachers showing up to work 2 hours late every day, leaving to go get lunch off campus and staying gone for hours, and I'm the problem?" My AD at the time called her and she finally approved the day off. She got promoted to a district office job the next year. I bet you are one of the coaches that preaches commitment to your players but then miss two Fridays in a row to lollygag. You're a hypocritical lollygagger. I jest. But in all seriousness, usually the worst administrators get promoted. Ha
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Post by silkyice on Oct 29, 2019 16:31:50 GMT -6
And because internet, about 2hrs 9 mins in you can witness the magic yourself. How did that guy block the punt? I have watched it 5 times and each time it looks like there is no way he is going to block it but he sure does. Also, what year is this? Looks mid 90's??? Ok, just watched the slow motion. It was a bad kick. He kicked it right into that guy's gut. Also, saw the year, 1999.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 29, 2019 11:06:08 GMT -6
I am absolutely shocked that the most common answer isn't taking a safety. Most notably for the 2 responses from wingtol and cs . This was us. We punted and punter returner got a decent return to our 26. Our kicker consistently puts the ball to the goalline or the 5 every time. Kicking from the 20, puts the ball landing around the opponent's 25 and heck even with a decent return they start in their territory. IMHO punting is "bad football". Even if you haven't repped this scenario, how hard is it to tell your punter to run out of the back of the endzone? I can do that from the sideline. Very very surprised at the results thus far in the poll. Duece Punting from the 10 vs kicking off from the 20 isn't going to be a huge difference for us. Actually our punter (who is the same guy as our kicker) is more effective punting the ball than striking deep kickoffs, and our Kick coverage unit, lets just say makes you feel like your on pins and needles every time that fearsome group of killers takes the field. Not to mention 13-7 is a 6 point game, you give up a safety and now a TD beats you, while rare a blocked ex pt or shanked ex pt in a 13-7 game keeps it tied. Additionally if you do kick off and they drive the field and score the game clock is probably near zero. If they block the punt, return the punt for a TD, have a big return and a short field, or get the ball at the +40 and then score the chance of you having clock left for your offense are much higher. I think its close, if you have a guy that can flat out strike the ball and drive it and you feel good about covering a kick, then safety is right. If you don't have those things or your punter is pretty good punt it out of there and play D. I'm all for the making decisions that are unique but increase implied win equity too btw. Just 2 weeks ago we pulled the ole "let em score" on Defense when down 1 with 2:55 left and no timeouts. Didn't work, our kid muffed the insuing pop up kick but, if he catches it we have the ball on the -45 with 2:40 left and a chance to tie down 8. The punt will take place around the goalline with a rush and the coverage guys having to block first. The kickoff can still be a punt after a safety and will be at the twenty (20 yards more) with the coverage guys sprinting full speed. I don't have a problem with the safety. If I was going to do it, I would attempt to draw them offsides and take a delay. Burn as much time as I could and then run around in the endzone close to the endline burning so more time and tell our offensive guys to not block but to tackle the rushers. We actually practice this once a week. My take on the whole situation is that it is a little early for endgame scenarios and that the 10 is still far out enough. If there was under 2 minutes, definitely take safety. If the ball was inside the 5, or worse, inside the 2, them definitely take a safety. 10 and 4+ minutes left and your kickoff team just gave up a big return last time (punt or not), not sure safety is cut and dried. Something to think about, but I will be honest, safety is not what would enter my mind right there unless less time and even worse yardline.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 26, 2019 15:12:09 GMT -6
silkyice I love this idea! Do you have any magic number of clips per play/blitz/etc? Like if you were playing an offense like yours how many clips of Bucksweep would you include or would it depend on how many formations they ran it out of? And defensively would you just show 1 clip each of their base front against each formation you cared about (throwing out ones that are widely different) This would make going back through and watching film through the weekend /week so much easier to do! No magic number. Just put what you want. So back to buck sweep. So yes, probably every formation (within reason). But definitely, a few of the basic ones. And then anything different. Like one that cuts all the way back or bounces outside or with a different runner that we actually worry about. For instance, when 7 runs it, he likes to stick it up in there. When 3 runs it. He would rather bounce and he tries to spin off every single tackle. Triage the plays. Definite - add. Definite no add. Don’t. Not sure, probably add within reason You can always delete plays from the cutup.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 26, 2019 14:24:07 GMT -6
Got to do it early or late. But, here is what I do. ODK and try not really watch but it is tempting. Take the latest film and make a cutup. Kick first. Make sure I get one of every special team and anything unusual. Get some defensive plays. General stuff, any blitzes, twist, etc. Get goalline, short yardage, long yardage, etc. Get offensive plays. Try not to put same play in there multiple times unless their is a reason for it. Now that you have your cutup, go through and watch other films and add to the cutup. When done, clean up the cutup. Go through and actually edit the video so that it starts a second before the snap (unless you want or need more - motion, shift, etc.). That is all the grunt work. Now watch the cutup whenever you want. Coach that sounds like a great idea. Basically taking all of the important stuff you need from all the games into one manageable size playlist.m, correct? Exactly. I also share this with the team and we watch it at least twice together. Just what matters to us. But that could include a blitz, etc. It could take 1-2 hours.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 26, 2019 12:51:21 GMT -6
Got to do it early or late.
But, here is what I do. ODK and try not really watch but it is tempting. Take the latest film and make a cutup.
Kick first. Make sure I get one of every special team and anything unusual. Get some defensive plays. General stuff, any blitzes, twist, etc. Get goalline, short yardage, long yardage, etc. Get offensive plays. Try not to put same play in there multiple times unless their is a reason for it.
Now that you have your cutup, go through and watch other films and add to the cutup.
When done, clean up the cutup. Go through and actually edit the video so that it starts a second before the snap (unless you want or need more - motion, shift, etc.).
That is all the grunt work. Now watch the cutup whenever you want.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 26, 2019 7:23:47 GMT -6
When do you guys share your previous game with kids? When do you share the upcoming opponent's previous games? We share our game we just played that night. And watch in the morning together. Share opponents games as soon as we can after our game is over. And then share a cutup usually by Sunday. The cutup has at least one of every special team, some defense, and offensive plays (minus multiple repeats).
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Post by silkyice on Oct 21, 2019 10:01:16 GMT -6
One of my favorite drills to instill contact toughness, especially for tackling, is called Duck Hunt. We have 2 high jump pads that we use. We put a player in front of the HJ pad with a hand shield. The hands shield is held chest high right in front of their body. Shielded player is facing away from the HJ pad towards the tackler. The tackler is anywhere from 5-10 yards away and running towards the shielded player in front of the pad. The shielded player will move laterally (shuffle sideways) in front of the pad. The tackler must sprint and break down correctly to run through the shield and player while driving them onto the HJ pad. Can also do it as a sideline tackle drill too. We usually do this on Mondays. We've never had a kid hurt doing this drill. The kids love it because they get to tee off on each other without getting killed. We've seen a drastic improvement with our physicality transfer to practice and games within our Hawk Tackling system once instituting this drill maybe 3-4 years ago. Our kids become more confident and physical ball carriers because they are getting hit too without hurting them. Simple way to get kids to understand hitting doesn't hurt as much when you're the hammer and not the nail. Any chance you can video that and post tomorrow??
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Post by silkyice on Oct 20, 2019 18:03:04 GMT -6
Shorten practices.
Let lineman do something with the ball besides snap it.
Add in a trick play or new blitz. And call it early in the game.
Maybe even give them a day off. I haven’t done that except on off weeks, so take that for what it is worth. Ha
Have a team dinner after practice or snack. Go to a movie as a team.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 19, 2019 6:38:45 GMT -6
Ok. Misread. Thought he was saying he knew what culture was better than scheme, but couldn’t/wouldn’t say it. Misread. My bad. Its professionalism, a standard. Lets get our work done and go home. The caveat is getting a group of people together, a team, thats wants to excel, accomplish something. Coaches who are organized, motivated, players who want to be coached, want to work and be good. " xxxx has talent but wont go to class" "Xxxx plays and practices great when he want to" "Every day tell players x,y, and z to get in the drill, every bleepin day.." "Coach x is first to leave, last to arrive.." At the end of the day, its about winning on friday night. Everything else is a side benefit. Our hc said it, he is done holding hands. And we weon last night. Great post!!
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Post by silkyice on Oct 18, 2019 21:25:04 GMT -6
He's not wrong. It's hard to say what it is but you know it when you see it. Ok. Misread. Thought he was saying he knew what culture was better than scheme, but couldn’t/wouldn’t say it. Misread. My bad.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 18, 2019 21:00:46 GMT -6
There is a culture that beats scheme but i cant verbalize it. ?
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