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Post by silkyice on Oct 17, 2019 20:11:18 GMT -6
Next, when we are full pads and going "thud", some dumb butt kid still goes a little harder and next thing you know a play is live for one person and thud for 21 others and that is a danger. That doesn't happen in shells. Why doesn't that happen in shells? How does wearing shells eliminate the moron quotient of that dumb butt kid? I would be more worried that what you described would indeed happen in shells than gear. Ummmmmm, Because we are NEVER all out live in shells. Sure a kid can be an idiot anytime, but shells certainly reduce the probability.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 17, 2019 10:57:56 GMT -6
Coached one year for a guy and from the start of fall camp on we never wore shoulder pads on offense. We would go pants and helmets only. Only blocked bags in team or I/S run. When varsity switched over to the defensive part of practice they put their shoulder pads on. That is odd. How did that work? What was the reason? I like the offense to have pads on not just to fit blocks correctly, but to have qbs throw in pads and receivers catch in pads. Both are a little different. I wouldn't do it just because I wouldn't want the disruption of putting pads on in the middle of practice. Ha
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Post by silkyice on Oct 10, 2019 11:13:52 GMT -6
We hit and never take anyone to the ground in practice but still wear pants. What does wearing shells take away or conserve? We view it as a protective solution in case someone falls to the ground at some point so wear don’t tear up their knees. Thats my line of thinking as well. You can go limited contact while wearing lowers, why not just wear them to be safe? What advantage does 'SHells' hold? You can practice the same level of contact in full gear You aren't wrong. But our kids practice faster and better in shells (with girdle). It was also literally 97 degrees all last week. In October. And that wasn't the heat index. That was the temp. Not the high. The temp at practice! Next, when we are full pads and going "thud", some dumb butt kid still goes a little harder and next thing you know a play is live for one person and thud for 21 others and that is a danger. That doesn't happen in shells. And yes, that shouldn't happen, but it has, and I want to limit the probabilities of it happening again. But the main reason is that our kids practice better and stay healthier and fresher in shells. That could be my fault, their fault, psychological, physical, whatever. Don't care. It is what it is.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 10, 2019 9:13:50 GMT -6
Y'all got me going down memory lane, same season as the reverse play..... we were on the road, the our ball boy was on the home sideline. We were winning big, the ball boy was yelling to the guys on the field. Nothing crazy, but he was talking. One of the coaches tells him "why dont you stop talking and just do your job," to which the kid responded "it's 35-0, why dont YOU do YOUR job." You can see the two of em arguing on the sideline, a big white goatee and a big black afro bobbing up and down at each other. It's hysterical. The best part is the goatee guy came to our staff when the ball boy was a senior. We brought up the scenario, they both thought it was funny as heck. They carried it between em all season, it was a nice bonding moment for an inner-city kid and a man who looks like Colonel Reb That is a great story!!
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Post by silkyice on Oct 10, 2019 4:36:27 GMT -6
Anyone ever coached a team or been apart of a team that just wears helmet/shoulder pads for practice (about halfway through season)? We only go full pads once a week. Shells all other days including Thursdays. We are shells everyday this week because we are beat up. 3 of 4 starting d lineman out. 4th one playing on a bum ankle. RB with 530 yards total the last two weeks has a bum ankle also. Shells include our girdle. We just don't have knee pads.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 9, 2019 12:45:54 GMT -6
Anyone ever coached a team or been apart of a team that just wears helmet/shoulder pads for practice (about halfway through season)? We only go full pads once a week. Shells all other days including Thursdays. We are shells everyday this week because we are beat up. 3 of 4 starting d lineman out. 4th one playing on a bum ankle. RB with 530 yards total the last two weeks has a bum ankle also.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 7, 2019 18:41:50 GMT -6
This is about the goofiest thing I've heard on this board... Where do you coach? Besides, who refers to people at a football game as "the audience?" Let's see...there are people who are there to play, people who are there to help them play, people who are there to watch them play, and...occasional confused people who see an open space and wander into it. I'm just saying you may be lucky to get volunteers to hold the down box and sticks at all, let alone that they not steal your signals, trip your entering substitutes, or drink your Gatorade. If you want a better class of help, better pay them. Hell, game before last the PA announcer on seeing a team threaten to go up by a third TD asked, "Will this be the dagger in their heart?" And it was the visiting team that was threatening to extend their lead! The chain crew is usually on your side line as visitors, so you have zero control over who is on the chain gang. That being said, they are technically part of the ref group and should behave and act correctly.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 7, 2019 6:53:13 GMT -6
Everywhere I've been it's been hard to get "official's assistants", with games sometimes held up while they got a last minute volunteer from the audience. I think it's asking too much to expect them to act non-partisan and not steal signals if they can. You want a chain crew who won't steal your signals, organize one yourself. Wait, WHAT???
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Post by silkyice on Oct 5, 2019 7:13:53 GMT -6
Not give away a play. Had a very heated game. Place is packed. I guess this team had been terrible in the past. I was new, the dc. At half getting ready to go up to field house on the road. Old man looks at me, he's on the chain gang, and says we're going to kick your ass. I said you're going to have to wait and see old man. Still makes me laugh. And....
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Post by silkyice on Oct 3, 2019 11:49:16 GMT -6
I have definitely run through the banner with kids. Like at the end. But check the OP. Dude leads the charge!! I've never run through the banner because that would require running. I need to go back and edit. Jogged through the banner.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 3, 2019 10:59:45 GMT -6
Surely there are coaches on here that run through the banner...Guys stand up for yourselves...there might be a good reason to do it! I have never been tempted because I have always been on the pressbox. There have been times I have been tempted to jump off of there though. I have definitely run through the banner with kids. Like at the end. But check the OP. Dude leads the charge!!
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Post by silkyice on Oct 3, 2019 10:58:47 GMT -6
Sometimes you read something on Coachhuey that changes your life. What Dad wouldn't run through a banner for his children? For his wife? Classic Exactly. But if he doesn't Tweet about it with a solid # then it didn't happen. No tweet. No heat. I just made that up and don’t know what that means, but it sounds cool.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 3, 2019 8:31:11 GMT -6
silkyice you are being ridiculous. The reason they lose is because they are not innovative or creative on offense. Winning football games is all about having innovative and creative offensive plays that coaches call at the right time. This overcomes all genetic "defects" in athletes such as weakness, slowness, lack of size etc. , as well as lack of worth ethic, fundamental mastery, and self discipline from the players. Wrong... It's about having a strong culture and excellent Tweet game. If running through the banner is part of their core values and drives an elite culture then he is helping develop young men who will be great husbands and fathers. Sometimes you read something on Coachhuey that changes your life. What Dad wouldn't run through a banner for his children? For his wife? Classic
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Post by silkyice on Oct 2, 2019 7:26:57 GMT -6
Do you not HAVE a weight room? That stinks if that's true. I would recommend at least doing body weight exercises. 5-Direction Lunges, Step-up in the bleachers, Air Squats, that sort of thing. I agree, the lack of having a weight room is not good. 5 in one year is crazy... 5-direction lunges. Describe please.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 1, 2019 9:23:07 GMT -6
Coda: kid transferred to the small Catholic school nearby. Better for everyone: he was about to be passed on the depth chart at RB, and that would have been ugly. Just a question about his transfer because I am curious. He isn't allowed to play at that new school this year. Correct? Does he have to sit out until one year later? Meaning does he have to miss the first five game (or whatever the number is)? Again, just curious.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 27, 2019 8:40:29 GMT -6
So we're looking at another game with heavy rain tonight, and I got to thinking about pop up shades for our sideline. Anybody have one of these? Do you like it? Hate it? Brands or recommendations? I'd like to get something like a 20'x10' one, not a small one. A quick google search shows this place: www.buyshade.com , has anybody worked with them? How well will they hold up to the wind?
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Post by silkyice on Sept 21, 2019 17:16:06 GMT -6
I once saw player leading team through the circular hoop-type banner trip and break his leg, done for the season. Not even Jim Harbaugh leads Michigan through "M GO BLUE" banner that kids jump to touch. Of course after today he might not be allowed to anyway. He probably should have been concerned about that Army celebration Hahahahaha or maybe he knew something we didn’t at the time. They actually upset Army.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 21, 2019 6:39:10 GMT -6
Re-thinking this, I think you are right. But, teams with offensive gurus are so excited to play that they just want it more than the other team and therefore run through the banner better. We have quit filming games and just recorded each teams run through. It is obvious who will win once you start doing this. I just laugh at teams who practice and do “walk thru’s”. Hahahaha. What idiots. We instead spend that time on “run thru’s” with the banner up and everything. Best tip I have picked up in 20 years. Do you use 11 Personnel during your run throughs? The Chiefs do, and it shows! All the best teams do!!
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Post by silkyice on Sept 21, 2019 6:33:43 GMT -6
The only reason they lose is cause they aren’t fired up enough. They don’t want it bad it enough. And they don’t run through the banner hard enough. That is a master coach leading my example. silkyice you are being ridiculous. The reason they lose is because they are not innovative or creative on offense. Winning football games is all about having innovative and creative offensive plays that coaches call at the right time. This overcomes all genetic "defects" in athletes such as weakness, slowness, lack of size etc. , as well as lack of worth ethic, fundamental mastery, and self discipline from the players. Re-thinking this, I think you are right. But, teams with offensive gurus are so excited to play that they just want it more than the other team and therefore run through the banner better. We have quit filming games and just recorded each teams run through. It is obvious who will win once you start doing this. I just laugh at teams who practice and do “walk thru’s”. Hahahaha. What idiots. We instead spend that time on “run thru’s” with the banner up and everything. Best tip I have picked up in 20 years.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 21, 2019 6:09:20 GMT -6
Was looking on the local news website this morning at scores from last night, and with each game they often have several photos. I saw one photo with a team’s jack wagon of a coach leading his team through the banner before the game. Da fuq?! Is this common in any area? It certainly isn’t around here. It may speak volumes that this team is a perennial bottom feeder that almost always gets a mercy clock after halftime. The only reason they lose is cause they aren’t fired up enough. They don’t want it bad it enough. And they don’t run through the banner hard enough. That is a master coach leading by example.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 17, 2019 17:14:36 GMT -6
“My mom told me if I played football, I could eat what I want...and here I am!!!” Actual Quote from one of mine. I posted my response without ever reading the last paragraph. Walking a 10k and playing a game is too much exercise in one week? You gotta be {censored} me. I posted that. Maybe a little over kill, but where do you coach? It was 99 degrees at kickoff Friday night and we played 200 feet from a river. It was over 95 every single day at practice last week. If we added in a 10k walk at anytime during the week while it was over 95 degrees and humid as heck in Alabama, last Friday night would have been pretty tough. So let me clarify. Hard practice all week in humid 95 degree plus weather, game at 99 degrees next to a river (dude, it was hard to breathe), and a 10k sometime that week in that same weather, that is too much.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 17, 2019 10:29:52 GMT -6
My school is requiring all students to do a 10k (6.2 miles) walk on the Friday morning of game day. The walk starts at 8:00 AM and game time is 7:30 PM We have a varsity team of 30 players (soph-senior) with 8 two-way starters. Does anyone have experience on how this could effect athletes? Surely your admin can get those kids out of that. I would assume the purpose of that would to make sure the students are healthy. They are getting plenty of exercise with football. I would approach it as a safety issue. That is TOO much exercise and could be dangerous to walk a 10k and then play a football game in the same week much less the same day.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 16, 2019 18:30:40 GMT -6
So the home team messed up and then benefitted? Wow
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Post by silkyice on Sept 16, 2019 11:09:17 GMT -6
Not that it matters, but whose field were you playing on? Georgetown, SC I am sorry, were you home or away is what I meant?
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Post by silkyice on Sept 16, 2019 9:11:16 GMT -6
We score, decide to go for 2. Run the play, convert. We get lined up for the ensuing kickoff, and the officials huddle near the endzone where we just scored. A couple minutes later, they come running over to tell me that the field is marked incorrectly, that the PAT line was marked at the 2 instead of the 3, and that we have to do the try over. I explained to the officials that they couldn't make us replay the down unless there was a penalty or inadvertent whistle. Their counter was it was like a timing error, and could be corrected if the next play had not been run. My counter to that was timing errors don't take points off the board. Needless to say, we had to do the try over. We did not convert. Fortunately, we were able to win the game anyway. Our state association has already admitted that the officials were wrong, but nothing will be done to them. Not that it matters, but whose field were you playing on?
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Post by silkyice on Sept 12, 2019 10:31:30 GMT -6
I think this is a fair and interesting question. My general philosophy is that I want to be process oriented and not scoreboard oriented. I'd like my team to be that way, but I understand that my team isn't comprised of robots that I can program. ---------- ---------- I didn't actually see very much of the game in question, I did catch the final minute, the OT, and (I guess)the ensuing celebration. I didn't see any of the first 59 minutes of the game, I don't have any real concept of how we got to 59 minutes, whether it was more Michigan playing poorly or Army playing really well, I'm sure it was some mix of the two. ---------- ---------- When I was a kid, I read Bo Schembechler's autobiography, 1 tidbit that stuck with me. He talked about how about how he always tried to set his mood opposite to the fans. ie, when the team plays well, they get a lot of feedback around town about how great they are, what they need, is someone to remind them of their morality, so he would be especially critical of mistakes. in contrast, after the team plays poorly, they get a lot of negative feedback from everyone else, so that's when he would try and remind them of the good things they were capable of accomplishing. I was probably 10 when I read that, but its stuck with me. ------------ ------------ Yeah, I don't know, what's their feedback loop right now? I saw the studio talking heads rip them later in the day? Does that filter back to the players? Do they need to be built up right now, or taken down a peg? idk, I think you'd probably need to be in the room to have a sense for that My sense is that its typically a mistake for coaches to answer that when their emotions are raw right after the game -------- My other sense for it, is that you're team's attention is finite, they can only take so much direction from you before you lose their attention. How do you want to use their finite attention? Is coaching them on how to react after close games the best use of that attention? It seems like their might be other things that happened in the 59 minutes before I tuned in that would be a better use of that attention. Your mileage may vary. OUTSTANDING
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Post by silkyice on Sept 8, 2019 12:44:32 GMT -6
coachd5085, I get what you are saying and have already given my thoughts, but want to add one more. If they would have gone up 21-14 in regulation, gotten the ball back and taken a knee to end the game, I would imagine that the celebration would have been more to your liking. If they would have been up most of the game and won 28-14, I am positive that it would have been more to your liking. The fact they had to come back to tie, watch Army miss a field goal, get down in OT, and win in double OT while defeating a team with second longest win streak and a team that took Oklahoma to OT in Norman last year while keeping their own National Championship hopes alive is why they celebrated the way they did.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 7, 2019 18:22:49 GMT -6
5 years ago? Sure. Coach, Army is good. No one wants to play them. No one. In general, winning is not easy. The days of just showing up and winning (for the most part) are over. If Army won, and then ran the table, are they in the CFP playoff? Not sure what that has to do with this thread. But possibly. If Michigan ends up winning Big 10 and Pac 12 has no team worth it again, and Bama wins the SEC (meaning only one SEC team gets in), then sure, they have a chance.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 7, 2019 17:24:07 GMT -6
Of course most aren’t excited about it. But what’s the alternative? that is what I’ve been asking? Not so much condemning the Michigan players because as I said that’s not appropriate for this board but more of a Facebook ESPN post mocking them, but rather asking from a coach’s point of view when you see your players seemingly very excited to achieve something that should have BEEN ACCOMPLISHED EASILY, how does one handle that? Does one even handle it? Is it a sign that the team has very low expectations? Is it a sign they dont have what it takes to make the 14 week journey? 5 years ago? Sure. Coach, Army is good. No one wants to play them. No one. In general, winning is not easy. The days of just showing up and winning (for the most part) are over.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 7, 2019 16:48:55 GMT -6
Monken-Army got greedy in 3rd Quarter when they were inside Michigan 10 and instead of playing for FG to go up 17-7 ran a Boot Pass that was pressured, all covered up and intercepted. If they go up two scores there might have been different outcome. When the FB moved on 2nd and goal at the 1 to make it 2nd and goal at the 6, I said right there to others that they would lose. Wish I was wrong and hate that I was right.
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