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Post by CS on Jul 21, 2019 11:59:34 GMT -6
I just got to the Garden City game in Ep. 4 and the HC for GC told a kid if he learned to tuck his shirt in then maybe he would have covered the guy who beat him deep better. WTF have we become in this profession?? Just watched the episode. Isn't Garden City where that poor kid died of heat stroke earlier this spring? Maybe the Garden City head coach should worry more about the health of his players than whether or not their shirts are tucked in. I think that guy is a clown more than JB. We sent a kid there 2 years ago. Never heard one good thing about him
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Post by mdunham on Jul 21, 2019 12:44:37 GMT -6
GC I took the shirt tucking thing with DB as a discipline/little things issue. He was in guys pregame about it. Seemed like he emphasized discipline on those little things as a key. Personally I wouldn’t make as big a deal of it - but for these juco’s there’s usually a reason they’re there - and he’s trying to hold them accountable. I thought he made himself look bad post game more than JB/Indy...but there’s also some editing so who knows what really went down. Heated rivalry lots of personal emotion involved not necessarily the best look.
FWIW the GC coach is now the head coach at D2 MO Southern St.
Ep2 really got to me that was tough to watch. Last supposed as well and felt a little conflicted...won’t say why as to not spoil it. Definitely a different feel this season. Especially as I watched this right after All or Nothing just night and day.
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Post by wolverine55 on Jul 21, 2019 13:48:08 GMT -6
Episode 2 is tough regardless of what was happening on the field...and then I think the lack of winning led the producers to scramble for storylines. There didn't seem to be very much actual football this season. Being football people, most of us would watch regardless but most targeted viewers aren't coaches.
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Post by CS on Jul 21, 2019 17:14:37 GMT -6
GC I took the shirt tucking thing with DB as a discipline/little things issue. He was in guys pregame about it. Seemed like he emphasized discipline on those little things as a key. Personally I wouldn’t make as big a deal of it - but for these juco’s there’s usually a reason they’re there - and he’s trying to hold them accountable. I thought he made himself look bad post game more than JB/Indy...but there’s also some editing so who knows what really went down. Heated rivalry lots of personal emotion involved not necessarily the best look. FWIW the GC coach is now the head coach at D2 MO Southern St. Ep2 really got to me that was tough to watch. Last supposed as well and felt a little conflicted...won’t say why as to not spoil it. Definitely a different feel this season. Especially as I watched this right after All or Nothing just night and day. I get the attention to details and that it’s important. Some coaches either don’t understand it or take it too far There was nothing constructive out of what he told that player after he came off the field. That player didn’t get better in any way from that comment. I’m not Jesus or anything and I have said $hit that I looked back on and was like “damn, I should have said this instead.” However, I don’t say those things and hide behind the “details matter if you want to be a champion make sure your pee is clear” bull$hit that some guys do. He said something before the game. Boom done move on from it
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Post by ItalianStallion on Jul 21, 2019 20:52:01 GMT -6
I know editing plays a major part in it. But man JB was majorly concerned with what Twitter had to say to “not give a F what anyone thinks”. Don’t remember seeing a clip of him watching any film (again editing I know). My least favorite part of every season so far has been what seems to be chaos on the sidelines. Chaos. Can’t imagine a 4year coach likes seeing the way the QBs talk and act on the sideline. Speaking of, how poorly handled was the QB situation. Wish there was more episodes or it was an ongoing series week by week live during season.
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Post by jamesskeeler on Jul 21, 2019 21:34:41 GMT -6
I couldn't imagine being in a place that is in total chaos and termoil like that. Doesn't seem to create a successful environment IMO
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Post by groundchuck on Jul 22, 2019 9:26:12 GMT -6
I thought one of the most telling things about JB was how he says "win on me, win on three." At least I think that is what he says every time he breaks the team down at the end of practice or a meeting. At one point one of the other coaches breaks it down as "family on me, family on three" (again something like that), which I think is telling.
In my opinion you don't "win on me". We win on us.
I have said this before but I would like to see Last Chance U continue. Maybe with Iowa Western because they win, routinely piss pound Indy, stay in the mix for the natty, and from what I know run a classy juco program. Maybe the plot lines would not be salacious enough for viewers who are not football coaches?
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Post by Defcord on Jul 22, 2019 9:30:58 GMT -6
I watched the first episode. Decided I couldn’t take anymore. Then I read enough comments here to watch the second episode. Now I am out. This season just seemed like everyone was playing it up for the cameras. It felt more like a bad sitcom with unbelievable characters than a football docu-series. I want to feel bad for some of those people but they all just seem like fictional characters to me. I know they are real people but my mind can’t let me believe what I am watching on screen is even close to their actual realities.
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Post by wolverine55 on Jul 22, 2019 10:54:17 GMT -6
I watched the first episode. Decided I couldn’t take anymore. Then I read enough comments here to watch the second episode. Now I am out. This season just seemed like everyone was playing it up for the cameras. It felt more like a bad sitcom with unbelievable characters than a football docu-series. I want to feel bad for some of those people but they all just seem like fictional characters to me. I know they are real people but my mind can’t let me believe what I am watching on screen is even close to their actual realities. I know this is essentially what I posted in jump-starting this thread again, but I truly believe that for all of Buddy Stephens' faults, what we saw at EMCC was who they were, for the most part. I'm sure some of that was dramatized as well. And, they were used to dealing with the talented but troubled student-athlete well before Last Chance U became a thing. Conversely, Indy truly tried to become Last Chance U, going as far as referring to themselves as Dream U and having "Last Chance U" emblazoned on their practice field (and maybe game field too?) and the train wreck ensued.
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Post by CS on Jul 22, 2019 12:25:46 GMT -6
I thought one of the most telling things about JB was how he says "win on me, win on three." At least I think that is what he says every time he breaks the team down at the end of practice or a meeting. At one point one of the other coaches breaks it down as "family on me, family on three" (again something like that), which I think is telling. In my opinion you don't "win on me". We win on us. I have said this before but I would like to see Last Chance U continue. Maybe with Iowa Western because they win, routinely piss pound Indy, stay in the mix for the natty, and from what I know run a classy juco program. Maybe the plot lines would not be salacious enough for viewers who are not football coaches? Win on me is a thing now and it doesn’t mean what you think. It’s like when you say “break it down on Johnny” you’re “on” johnny. Our kids say team on me team on 3
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 13:55:35 GMT -6
Exactly. Seeing that he only has 2 years left to get his act together for the NFL and he'll have guys around him who are nearly as talented, he'd be a fool not to take to coaching. If he doesn't straighten up, it's not like Pitt won't be able to compete without him. He's a lottery ticket to them. They may hit the jackpot with him or he might be just another useless waste of time and money they throw away and forget about. Either way, it's no big deal to Pitt. I got that. I was addressing the idea that the reason he was at EMCC was to show college coaches that he could stay out of trouble. While it is true that he didn't get caught smoking weed again, he isn't a good citizen. I guess a lot of his bad attitude could be attributed to the fact that he was the best player on the defense and, regardless of how the coaches felt about him or spoke to him, he was going to play no matter what. Heck... It probably would have resulted in a lot fewer headaches if the coaches would have just handed Carter a game schedule and told him to just show up a half hour before every game! 😂 At Pitt, he probably won't be such a big fish in a little pond. Like you said, he will have to take to coaching and do things the way the coaches want them done. Otherwise, they will take his scholarship away and Carter will have to take his show on the road again for his senior year. Now that this thread got bumped with the new season out, I looked up Kam Carter. He didn't even last a whole year at Pitt. He played 9 games as a backup and had a total of 8 tackles, then announced he was transferring in Jan. He wound up at Duquesne. As a redshirt Jr. in a smaller pond, he was All-NEC.
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Post by 19delta on Jul 22, 2019 15:13:39 GMT -6
I got that. I was addressing the idea that the reason he was at EMCC was to show college coaches that he could stay out of trouble. While it is true that he didn't get caught smoking weed again, he isn't a good citizen. I guess a lot of his bad attitude could be attributed to the fact that he was the best player on the defense and, regardless of how the coaches felt about him or spoke to him, he was going to play no matter what. Heck... It probably would have resulted in a lot fewer headaches if the coaches would have just handed Carter a game schedule and told him to just show up a half hour before every game! 😂 At Pitt, he probably won't be such a big fish in a little pond. Like you said, he will have to take to coaching and do things the way the coaches want them done. Otherwise, they will take his scholarship away and Carter will have to take his show on the road again for his senior year. Now that this thread got bumped with the new season out, I looked up Kam Carter. He didn't even last a whole year at Pitt. He played 9 games as a backup and had a total of 8 tackles, then announced he was transferring in Jan. He wound up at Duquesne. As a redshirt Jr. in a smaller pond, he was All-NEC. So that cat has been to 4 colleges and he is still a redshirt junior? Wow. How old is he?
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Post by 19delta on Jul 22, 2019 15:21:51 GMT -6
****SPOILER ALERT****
Don't read any further if you haven't watched all the episodes.
So, why did this season go so far off the rails for Indy? Clearly, there were serious issues at QB. None of the guys they had seemed to be very good. It seemed that the offense struggled in general. Lots of turnovers.
Defensively, they had the kid who was the #1 JUCO player in the country but he did not seem to make much of an impact. In fact, the show didn't focus on him at all.
I can't imagine that they weren't as talented as they were in the first season.
Just wondering, from a football perspective, what exactly went wrong.
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Post by fantom on Jul 22, 2019 15:25:32 GMT -6
Now that this thread got bumped with the new season out, I looked up Kam Carter. He didn't even last a whole year at Pitt. He played 9 games as a backup and had a total of 8 tackles, then announced he was transferring in Jan. He wound up at Duquesne. As a redshirt Jr. in a smaller pond, he was All-NEC. So that cat has been to 4 colleges and he is still a redshirt junior? Wow. How old is he? Four schools in four years. Redshirted as a freshman. He's a redshirt senior this year.
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Post by blb on Jul 22, 2019 15:43:12 GMT -6
So that cat has been to 4 colleges and he is still a redshirt junior? Wow. How old is he? Four schools in four years. Redshirted as a freshman. He's a redshirt senior this year.
No doubt on Dean's list as a student and academic all-conference at each.
Poster boy for the "Transfer Portal."
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Post by seabass on Jul 22, 2019 15:48:09 GMT -6
****SPOILER ALERT**** Don't read any further if you haven't watched all the episodes. So, why did this season go so far off the rails for Indy? Clearly, there were serious issues at QB. None of the guys they had seemed to be very good. It seemed that the offense struggled in general. Lots of turnovers. Defensively, they had the kid who was the #1 JUCO player in the country but he did not seem to make much of an impact. In fact, the show didn't focus on him at all. I can't imagine that they weren't as talented as they were in the first season. Just wondering, from a football perspective, what exactly went wrong. I think the bigger mystery is how did they win games the previous season with all of that dysfunction.
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Post by 19delta on Jul 22, 2019 17:05:04 GMT -6
****SPOILER ALERT**** Don't read any further if you haven't watched all the episodes. So, why did this season go so far off the rails for Indy? Clearly, there were serious issues at QB. None of the guys they had seemed to be very good. It seemed that the offense struggled in general. Lots of turnovers. Defensively, they had the kid who was the #1 JUCO player in the country but he did not seem to make much of an impact. In fact, the show didn't focus on him at all. I can't imagine that they weren't as talented as they were in the first season. Just wondering, from a football perspective, what exactly went wrong. I think the bigger mystery is how did they win games the previous season with all of that dysfunction. Eh...I don't know if they were truly more dysfunctional this year compared to last. That simply could be the narrative that the creators of the show went with, given the 2-win season and Brown having to resign over the winter. I don't think that "dysfunction" can credibly explain how they went from conference champs and a pre-season National Championship pick to a 2-win season. Is it possible that they just did not do as good of a job recruiting? That the team simply was not as talented as the year before? Previous seasons of "Last Chance U" showed some amazingly talented football players who were going to go somewhere big-time if they could get their heads on straight socially and academically. I did not get the impression that, for this season, they had that same level of talent. Again...the kid who was the #1 JUCO player in the country. You would think he would be a major storyline. But he just wasn't. I'm assuming he was not particularly productive? Why else wouldn't the people who made the show focus on him?
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Post by CS on Jul 22, 2019 17:47:56 GMT -6
****SPOILER ALERT**** Don't read any further if you haven't watched all the episodes. So, why did this season go so far off the rails for Indy? Clearly, there were serious issues at QB. None of the guys they had seemed to be very good. It seemed that the offense struggled in general. Lots of turnovers. Defensively, they had the kid who was the #1 JUCO player in the country but he did not seem to make much of an impact. In fact, the show didn't focus on him at all. I can't imagine that they weren't as talented as they were in the first season. Just wondering, from a football perspective, what exactly went wrong. 1) never settled on a QB. Also brought back the doucher from season 3. 2) seemed like the staff was more against JB than the previous year 3) also the staff seemed younger and douchey 4) he was all about the fame but I didn’t get the feeling he was playing it up for the camera but maybe he was distracted On a side note it was cool that the Kailen Davis kid went to A State since it’s right down the road from my school. We don’t get much excitement in my area since it’s all farms and $hit
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Post by wolverine55 on Jul 22, 2019 18:06:26 GMT -6
My brother has experience at the JUCO level coaching women's basketball and he says that based on his experience and what you can read between the lines on the show, Indy doesn't have much budget for support staff, coaching staff, or facilities, despite the acquisition of the turf but even that was a deal. There's probably a reason Brown was one of only two guys to even apply for the job, at least according to what the Garden City coach said at the end. This would tie right into your #3. Very young, inexperienced staff and in the last season particularly, I agree with your assessment. Again, hard to be too judgmental given how much editing goes on, but I honestly think the QB coach was just trying to brown nose the QBs and ride with them to a D1 school.
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Post by 19delta on Jul 22, 2019 18:22:59 GMT -6
My brother has experience at the JUCO level coaching women's basketball and he says that based on his experience and what you can read between the lines on the show, Indy doesn't have much budget for support staff, coaching staff, or facilities, despite the acquisition of the turf but even that was a deal. There's probably a reason Brown was one of only two guys to even apply for the job, at least according to what the Garden City coach said at the end. This would tie right into your #3. Very young, inexperienced staff and in the last season particularly, I agree with your assessment. Again, hard to be too judgmental given how much editing goes on, but I honestly think the QB coach was just trying to brown nose the QBs and ride with them to a D1 school. Yeah...the QB coach seemed like a pretty major dousch. What was the deal with him telling the QBs that it was his last week and he was quitting because he couldn't take the chaos? And why say that with the cameras right in his face? I also didn't understand why Brown fired the QB coach and the strength coach before the final game. Something about how both guys had already found different jobs? Given the revolving door of college assistant coach positions, I found that to be an odd reason to fire coaches.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 19:02:06 GMT -6
Now that this thread got bumped with the new season out, I looked up Kam Carter. He didn't even last a whole year at Pitt. He played 9 games as a backup and had a total of 8 tackles, then announced he was transferring in Jan. He wound up at Duquesne. As a redshirt Jr. in a smaller pond, he was All-NEC. So that cat has been to 4 colleges and he is still a redshirt junior? Wow. How old is he? He's a redshirt senior now at Duquesne. As for his age, I'm not sure. He's never spent more than a year anywhere and burned his redshirt year in his one-and-done at Penn State, then was only at EMCC and Pitt for 1 year apiece, too. goduquesne.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=7442
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Post by CS on Jul 22, 2019 19:07:18 GMT -6
My brother has experience at the JUCO level coaching women's basketball and he says that based on his experience and what you can read between the lines on the show, Indy doesn't have much budget for support staff, coaching staff, or facilities, despite the acquisition of the turf but even that was a deal. There's probably a reason Brown was one of only two guys to even apply for the job, at least according to what the Garden City coach said at the end. This would tie right into your #3. Very young, inexperienced staff and in the last season particularly, I agree with your assessment. Again, hard to be too judgmental given how much editing goes on, but I honestly think the QB coach was just trying to brown nose the QBs and ride with them to a D1 school. Yeah...the QB coach seemed like a pretty major dousch. What was the deal with him telling the QBs that it was his last week and he was quitting because he couldn't take the chaos? And why say that with the cameras right in his face? I also didn't understand why Brown fired the QB coach and the strength coach before the final game. Something about how both guys had already found different jobs? Given the revolving door of college assistant coach positions, I found that to be an odd reason to fire coaches. Because they took the job and gave him no notice to speak of. I’m not against him on that. Pretty shady IMO
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Post by 19delta on Jul 22, 2019 19:42:54 GMT -6
Yeah...the QB coach seemed like a pretty major dousch. What was the deal with him telling the QBs that it was his last week and he was quitting because he couldn't take the chaos? And why say that with the cameras right in his face? I also didn't understand why Brown fired the QB coach and the strength coach before the final game. Something about how both guys had already found different jobs? Given the revolving door of college assistant coach positions, I found that to be an odd reason to fire coaches. Because they took the job and gave him no notice to speak of. I’m not against him on that. Pretty shady IMO Ok. That makes sense. I guess I missed where Brown said that was why he was upset with them.
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Post by 42falcon on Jul 22, 2019 19:45:40 GMT -6
What is most puzzling to me is this: -dude walks around calls these guys MF'ers -JB in not so many words says what a $hit hole the place is and now wait for it...... WHY DO KIDS WANT TO GO THERE? ? No word of a lie I am in Canada our program sends a good number of kids to University each year our kids get that. I have had kids who have Canadian University coaches talking to them they are going to end up at a University easily and since Last Chance U came out say to me "coach you seen Last Chance U?" me: "yes why" kid: "because I was like wondering what you think about me going to a JUCO?" I am baffled maybe they think what they see is cool? I don't know I must be getting old because that does not look like a place I would send my dog and he is dead..
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Post by mdunham on Jul 22, 2019 20:13:09 GMT -6
****SPOILER ALERT**** Don't read any further if you haven't watched all the episodes. So, why did this season go so far off the rails for Indy? Clearly, there were serious issues at QB. None of the guys they had seemed to be very good. It seemed that the offense struggled in general. Lots of turnovers. Defensively, they had the kid who was the #1 JUCO player in the country but he did not seem to make much of an impact. In fact, the show didn't focus on him at all. I can't imagine that they weren't as talented as they were in the first season. Just wondering, from a football perspective, what exactly went wrong. Multiple factors for me. QB def was an issue. While Malik in previous season seemed difficult for staff he also did seem to carry leadership amongst the team, the offense seemed to respond to him. I think that while it wasn't rosy I'm sure being a top 5 guy in HS and the heir apparent to Jameis Winston being in a championship FSU program carried a lot of street cred with teammates. Both him and JB have come out as well that while there's a lot of conflict between the two there is a lot of respect and they say they're close. I believe that JB trusted Malik the most this season - felt conflicted with bringing him to fold completely vs scout guy while others struggled. No QBs this year seemed to be any kind of a leader. Offense in general I think had more talented guys last season especially RBs and up front. Chemistry in general lacked more so. Between staff there didn't seem to be quite the same unity as previous season. Stuff that seemingly wasn't an issue in previous season as much (partying, behavior issues) were huge issues this season. Previous season had occasional tardies to class guys not doing well in class - stuff I'm sure happened this season but last year that was portrayed as the worst along with weed. While QB guy last year seemed like he tried to be a bad cop at times I think he truly connected with those guys because he genuinely cared about them - and no matter what JB said to him he was committed on board professional for the season. I thought the DC took his co duties quite well although I found it odd that the HC who's the OC would then have his hands all over defense when he probably never coached it before. Did it also seem they had a larger staff this season?!? The losses certainly didn't help and they way they lost them (blowout, close, you name it). The coaching staff turned on JB and did it openly with players. Players turned on everything. Mr Weaver hit it best - went from team goals to individual goals. I couldn't imagine being in an environment like that - I'm not sure how I would coach that up. Overall the team seemed to lack a good tough leader. Buck the OL from last season seemed to be a tough guy up front everyone respected, that commanded some respect. Malik as I mentioned I think had some respect amongst guys. Having an older guy like Carlos Thompson who was what 22-23 messed up a bunch trying to turn it around and be somewhat a model for the younger guys. This years group just seemed way more out of control crazy. I don't think anything football scheme wise would've helped them overcome these personal struggles. With all the losses and no hope for anything that season as a team, it became a lost season after probably the fourth week when the "bottom" team shut them out embarrassed them.
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Post by trenchwarfare58 on Jul 23, 2019 5:01:29 GMT -6
There's 2 reasons why they only won 2 games. 1.) Other teams had their playbook! 2.) Bobby Bruce got cut!
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Post by bird0660 on Jul 23, 2019 7:04:36 GMT -6
****SPOILER ALERT**** Don't read any further if you haven't watched all the episodes. So, why did this season go so far off the rails for Indy? Clearly, there were serious issues at QB. None of the guys they had seemed to be very good. It seemed that the offense struggled in general. Lots of turnovers. Defensively, they had the kid who was the #1 JUCO player in the country but he did not seem to make much of an impact. In fact, the show didn't focus on him at all. I can't imagine that they weren't as talented as they were in the first season. Just wondering, from a football perspective, what exactly went wrong. 1) never settled on a QB. Also brought back the doucher from season 3. 2) seemed like the staff was more against JB than the previous year 3) also the staff seemed younger and douchey4) he was all about the fame but I didn’t get the feeling he was playing it up for the camera but maybe he was distracted On a side note it was cool that the Kailen Davis kid went to A State since it’s right down the road from my school. We don’t get much excitement in my area since it’s all farms and $hit If anyone remembers there were job postings for Indy on football scoop prior to this season and in the post it basically called for guys that wanted to make a name for themselves by being on TV. Thats how you get those kinds of assistants.
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Post by mc140 on Jul 23, 2019 23:25:02 GMT -6
I think the bigger mystery is how did they win games the previous season with all of that dysfunction. Eh...I don't know if they were truly more dysfunctional this year compared to last. That simply could be the narrative that the creators of the show went with, given the 2-win season and Brown having to resign over the winter. I don't think that "dysfunction" can credibly explain how they went from conference champs and a pre-season National Championship pick to a 2-win season. Is it possible that they just did not do as good of a job recruiting? That the team simply was not as talented as the year before? Previous seasons of "Last Chance U" showed some amazingly talented football players who were going to go somewhere big-time if they could get their heads on straight socially and academically. I did not get the impression that, for this season, they had that same level of talent. Again...the kid who was the #1 JUCO player in the country. You would think he would be a major storyline. But he just wasn't. I'm assuming he was not particularly productive? Why else wouldn't the people who made the show focus on him? They were loaded and just did not talk about the other good players. Probably because they were not screwups.
Johnson was hardly the only top talent on Independence's team that didn't get the featured treatment. While common feature subjects Malik Henry, Markiese King and Kailon Davis were all ranked among the top 20o junior college prospects in the 247Sports Composite, so too were six other Pirates. Johnson was the headliner, followed by California OLB signee Kuony Deng (No. 13 overall in the 247Sports Composite), Vanderbilt CB signee Dontye Carriere-Williams (No. 40), TCU CB signee Tony Wallace (No. 116), Indiana DT signee Juan Harris (No. 121) and Colorado ILB signee Jamar Montgomery (No. 140).
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Post by CoachFetty on Jul 24, 2019 2:02:26 GMT -6
My brother has experience at the JUCO level coaching women's basketball and he says that based on his experience and what you can read between the lines on the show, Indy doesn't have much budget for support staff, coaching staff, or facilities, despite the acquisition of the turf but even that was a deal. There's probably a reason Brown was one of only two guys to even apply for the job, at least according to what the Garden City coach said at the end. This would tie right into your #3. Very young, inexperienced staff and in the last season particularly, I agree with your assessment. Again, hard to be too judgmental given how much editing goes on, but I honestly think the QB coach was just trying to brown nose the QBs and ride with them to a D1 school. Yeah...the QB coach seemed like a pretty major dousch. What was the deal with him telling the QBs that it was his last week and he was quitting because he couldn't take the chaos? And why say that with the cameras right in his face? I also didn't understand why Brown fired the QB coach and the strength coach before the final game. Something about how both guys had already found different jobs? Given the revolving door of college assistant coach positions, I found that to be an odd reason to fire coaches. I found that odd as well. I pretty sure they coached for room and board and that is it. I assume they found paying jobs.
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Post by klaby on Aug 1, 2019 9:33:49 GMT -6
It's coaches like this that give the rest of us a bad name. ICC will now make a hard turn the other way, watch next season, less out of state kids, a more "touchy feely" approach. More Admin oversight...
The admin is as much if not more to blame for this train wreck than anybody. They made winning above all else a priority. And fact is if JB won this year he would still be at ICC. He didn't so he is out.
Anybody else notice the last episode JB was with "alex" and called him hitler 2-3 times and the kid didn't miss a beat? That was shot months before the text scandal? The kid gets disciplined and a report is filed...maybe it's the cop in me, but if you wait months to report being offended, how offended are you? Not condoning JB's actions, just looking at this with open eyes....I think the Admin needed a reason to get rid of JB because the community had turned against him and ICC and they found one. Which again speaks to the poor overall leadership at that school. Netflix had all they needed months before the kid filed his complaint, but they were either too stupid, too lazy or too inept to ask for it.
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