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Post by lochness on Mar 11, 2008 5:43:13 GMT -6
Walt Housman, who was our DL and OL coach in High School is now the DC and Associate Head Coach for the Chicago Rush, who won the championship 2 seasons ago. He's been there about 7 years I think.
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Post by lochness on Mar 4, 2008 7:11:46 GMT -6
I would absolutely take on a volunteer coach that had never played before. For me, the most important attribute in an assistant coach is enthusiasm and willingness to learn and work hard. We can TEACH someone how to coach football. It's not the rocket science we like to pretend it is! I am very passionate about developing and sharing knowledge with newer or younger coaches who have a genuine desire for getting involved. The volunteer coach would have to accept his role and be willing to participate and learn, though. He'd have to understand that he may not be the varsity QB coach his first year. It's important to develop coaches in a progression just like it is important to develop players in a progression. You don't teach an O-lineman to pull before you teach him to base block! Good, dedicated, passionate coaches who are genuine and good with kids are NOT an easy find. If you or anyone else in your situation had these qualities, we'd scoop you up in a second. Playing experience does not equal coaching effectiveness. Take my word for it.
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Post by lochness on Feb 21, 2008 8:12:43 GMT -6
You are a master of the details as always Brophy!
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Post by lochness on Feb 21, 2008 7:24:34 GMT -6
It's another obvious example of how the same "terminology" means different things to different people!
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Post by lochness on Feb 20, 2008 13:56:49 GMT -6
Yeah, I think as far as terminology goes, it's just a matter of whatever works best for your system and your kids. We like anything with fewer syllables for the QB to pronounce!!
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Post by lochness on Feb 20, 2008 13:28:31 GMT -6
"Reo" and "Leo" was terminology I learned in my one year with a Wing-T team that I've adapted into the system I run now.
Basically, it is an unbalanced set. It stands for "Right End Over" or "Left End Over." It essentially puts the SE and the TE on the same side, with the WB or Z (depending on what kind of offense you are running).
So, for us, we would call "I Right" which would look like this:
X-----------------------O-O-C-O-O-Y -----------------------------Q-----------------------Z
-----------------------------F -----------------------------T
"I REO" would look like this:
------------------------O-O-C-O-O-Y---------------------------X -----------------------------Q-----------------------Z
-----------------------------F -----------------------------T
For Wing-T, it's basically the same concept, with the X, Y, and Z all on the same side.
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Post by lochness on Feb 18, 2008 8:12:08 GMT -6
Blue,
I read your material and I thought it was pretty good stuff. Would you say that, with this philosophy and with the tools you have implemented, you have been able to establish good communications and relationships with the parents in your program?
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Post by lochness on Dec 23, 2005 9:06:17 GMT -6
Hey,
OC in New Hampshire. RB's, QB's and DB's position coach. 34/52 Defense primarily and multiple offense (usually 2 backs and 1 TE based).
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Post by lochness on Nov 6, 2006 9:18:55 GMT -6
I think it's just I with a wing OR with the flanker coming in motion toward the formation, thus putting him in positio to take the reverse after an ISO fake, or to fake the reverse after the ISO give.
We run some of this.
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wing t?
Apr 27, 2006 15:58:14 GMT -6
Post by lochness on Apr 27, 2006 15:58:14 GMT -6
Well, that's not what Tubby Raymond told me at dinner last night.
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wing t?
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Post by lochness on Apr 27, 2006 5:29:25 GMT -6
Advantages:
Series-based Utilizes 3 good running backs without having to stack the backfield Can have an effective passing attack Very good opportunities for misdirection Good to play against poorly coached or undisciplined defenses
Disadvantages
Not a balanced offense Largely dependant upon a variety of blocking schemes Tough road if a well coached and disciplined defense is going against you "canned offense" Unathletic OL will cut your effectiveness severely IMO
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Post by lochness on Mar 3, 2008 7:06:29 GMT -6
Coach,
That’s a great question. When I was playing HS ball, we were a successful team with a very good and respected coaching staff. I used to idolize those guys. Part of what I would do was take home all the game film I could get my hands on. I was always fascinated with the conversations that would take place in the press box between our coaches (the camera was right next to them, so you could hear everything). Every game film was like a tutorial because you could hear the thought process behind what was going on. You could also hear quite a few interesting words and phrases at times.
I really got into drawing up plays when I was a junior and senior. Other kids would doodle cartoons or whatever during class, and I was drawing up a weakside Lead. I was also VERY involved in our summer programs (passing leagues, etc., etc) and I found that I really enjoyed teaching the newer and younger guys our offense and defense. At our banquet my senior year, where the coaches say a little something about everyone, the coach said “he is a student of the game and I’m sure he would make an excellent coach someday.” I was like WOAH....THAT is a GREAT idea!! (Lightbulb goes off in head!)
So, right out of HS in 1994, I hooked on with the town Pop Warner team and coached while I was attending college. I worked, went to school, and coached. I did that for 3 years. My fourth year, a nearby HS in the smallest classification in the state (my alma marter was in the largest classification) was advertising for assistant coaches. I went and interviewed with the new coach that summer, and he brought me aboard to coach WR’s and DB’s as well as head the JV program. I was only 21 in 1997, but I thought I knew it all. We had a horrible year. It was not what I expected. We did not have a very good coaching staff (myself included, although at the time I thought I was the man), we were disorganized, and we only won 1 game. I had never been through anything like that before. As a player, we were always a winning team and a top 2 or 3 seed in the standings, going deep into the playoffs. Our Pop Warner team was also successful in the same way. It was a shock.
At the end of that season, I got a call early one morning from an assistant coach (who used to coach me) at my Alma Marter HS. They were wondering if we had any film on an opponent that they had drawn for the annual Thanksgiving Game, which is an exhibition game in our state. We had played the team they were going to play earlier in the season. Anyway, I was able to get the film, and our former HC asked if I would help out by running the scout team and helping coach the backs and DB’s. My season at the smaller school had ended 2 weeks before Thanksgiving, so I was free to do so. Anyway, I ended up helping prepare for the next couple of weeks. It was absolutely thrilling to work with those guys and coach my old school.
Anyway, that spring of 1998, I had several choices presented to me. I could go back to the smaller school I had coached at previously...as I had originally planned. I had also received a call from the Pop Warner program, who wanted me to be the HC of the Midget team. Finally, my former HC had asked after helping out for the Turkey Bowl if I wanted to come aboard to help the freshman program there. After a lot of debate, I chose to go with my former HC to my home High School and coach Frosh ball. I resigned my post at the other school.
Well, through a lot of hard work, involvement and dedication through the off-season, I earned myself a varsity assistant position working with the Offensive Coordinator as my mentor. I helped him with everything, from design of the playbook through installation and execution of the offensive game plans. I coached RB’s and DB’s, and ran all of the summer programs pretty much by myself.
That’s essentially how I got into coaching football. I was fortunate enough during those years after college where my job (I am a full-time Human Resources Manager) was always willing to support my coaching schedule during those months. This past season (2007) was the first year I was not able to do it, and I am working on getting back involved. I DID coach a semi-pro team in 2007, but it is not nearly the same.
Sorry about the novel, but that was therapeutic...
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Post by lochness on Mar 2, 2006 11:01:41 GMT -6
1. Blow my whistle in their ears 2. Threaten to not allow them any water breaks 3. Make them do up-downs if they forget to teach something 4. Yell a lot 5. Tell them if they screw up again, they'll be coaching from the bench
That's pretty much what works for us.
;D
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Post by lochness on Jan 10, 2006 18:46:20 GMT -6
The guy's full name is actually William Williams? That's cool.
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Post by lochness on Dec 4, 2007 7:05:18 GMT -6
Coachnichols, (Respectfully)- Ummm...no...that's not what I said at all. All I said was that I ENJOYED seeing a nice blue-collar power football approach beat the WV dazzle and hype philosophy. I had nothing to do with what "formation" anyone ran. Although, it sure was great watching Pitt tee-off on WV's defense with that nasty, straight-ahead power running. But, nowhere in my post did I attribute the use of a formation to the victory. So, control your emotions chief. I DO believe that they were ballz-out outcoached and out-toughed, though. I mean, isn't part of good coaching emotionally and mentally preparing your team to perform? If WV came out tight and Pitt came out swinging, then to me that's part of the coaching job that was done. I don't know how you can argue that. Also, Pitt's playcalling was exceptional. I don't care about Pat White getting hurt. Last time I checked, it's a team game. And if it's not, and you have your whole destiny built around one player, then shame on you. And, I'm not a fan of either team. I had not seen a single Pitt game before this one, and frankly I had forgotten that Wanny even coached any longer. I don't even remember the name of the TB who impressed me so much. All I was doing was expressing my enjoyment of the game and my enjoyment of seeing an underdog win. Whatever else you got out of my post is purely in your head for whatever reason. And, last time I checked, we can come out here and say anything we want as long as it's related to coaching football and it's respectful and appropriate. I don't remember calling anyone else a "joke" or getting all pissy like someone stole my sandwich...so what gives, ace? Someone forget to take their happy pills this morning? NO D*MNIT I'M P*SSED OFF RIGHT NOW! YOU HURT MY FEELING WITH THAT 3-5 COMMENT AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS SH*T ANYMORE! ;D Just kidding! It's all good. I was having a bad day with a kid in one of my classes who will soon be changing my oil for a living or asking me if I want fries with that. Sorry for the rant! I am still {censored} though West Virginia choked. It still hurts me. Now all I have to look forward to is Kansas getting murdered by Virginia Tech. No sweat coach, Hey, I'm a big Patriots fan (yes, I was even a big fan in the Rod Rust and Richard McPhearson years when they won 3 games in 2 seasons)...but last night, the Ravens came within a yard of doing nearly the same thing that Pitt did, which was just beating the everliving crap out of a team on the lines of scrimmage and running the ball down their throat out of the "I". I can assure you, if the game had been different last night and Baltimore had pulled it off (which they should have because they outplayed the Pats in every single phase), I would be in a REALLY bad mood (although I must admit that I COMPLETELY respect the way the Ravens played that game), and I don't even have any kids in class to irritate me!! Give the kid a Dunce hat and make him sit in the corner, coach!!
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Post by lochness on Dec 3, 2007 17:58:21 GMT -6
I love the classic college sports games. There is so much cool stuff on offense and defense to watch...not to mention some of those great players.
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Post by lochness on Dec 3, 2007 13:13:42 GMT -6
I don't care about Pat White getting hurt. Last time I checked, it's a team game. And if it's not, and you have your whole destiny built around one player, then shame on you. What about Dennis Dixon, Tim Tebow, or Darren McFadden? losing a great player, likely has a significance in the outcome of a game. I'll say the amount of smartassedness probably wasn't necessary in response to Mr.Nichols, however....and that says a lot coming from a smartassss like me. ....and also because I wanted to see WVU finally get to the NC (and see Wanny lose). But then again, having watched OTHER WVU games, it was pretty clear that Pitt didn't really outplay them so-much as WVU just completely choking. No doubt about it...not saying losing a great player won't impact the outcome of a game. But, if you're a #2-ranked team and you can't defeat a rival who is neither ranked nor do they have a winning season, because you lost ONE MAN...there's a problem. Particularly if it means as much as that game meant to WVU. Injuries are a part of football...and the "we lost White" excuse is just that...it's an excuse, and I don't think there's any excuse for what happened out there on Saturday night. They were out-coached and out-played. I for one am glad. Wasn't trying to shave anyone's bag against the grain or anything...
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Post by lochness on Dec 3, 2007 12:59:57 GMT -6
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Post by lochness on Dec 3, 2007 12:57:28 GMT -6
Coachnichols,
(Respectfully)-
Ummm...no...that's not what I said at all.
All I said was that I ENJOYED seeing a nice blue-collar power football approach beat the WV dazzle and hype philosophy. I had nothing to do with what "formation" anyone ran. Although, it sure was great watching Pitt tee-off on WV's defense with that nasty, straight-ahead power running. But, nowhere in my post did I attribute the use of a formation to the victory.
So, control your emotions chief.
I DO believe that they were ballz-out outcoached and out-toughed, though. I mean, isn't part of good coaching emotionally and mentally preparing your team to perform? If WV came out tight and Pitt came out swinging, then to me that's part of the coaching job that was done. I don't know how you can argue that. Also, Pitt's playcalling was exceptional.
I don't care about Pat White getting hurt. Last time I checked, it's a team game. And if it's not, and you have your whole destiny built around one player, then shame on you.
And, I'm not a fan of either team. I had not seen a single Pitt game before this one, and frankly I had forgotten that Wanny even coached any longer. I don't even remember the name of the TB who impressed me so much.
All I was doing was expressing my enjoyment of the game and my enjoyment of seeing an underdog win. Whatever else you got out of my post is purely in your head for whatever reason.
And, last time I checked, we can come out here and say anything we want as long as it's related to coaching football and it's respectful and appropriate. I don't remember calling anyone else a "joke" or getting all pissy like someone stole my sandwich...so what gives, ace?
Someone forget to take their happy pills this morning?
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Post by lochness on Dec 3, 2007 10:48:28 GMT -6
who did yall see running power? All I saw were outside zone and inside zones. Sometimes with a F leading but no powers. with the BSG folding around playside seam and the F kicking out (with no attempt to reach).... Not your typical pin-and-pull stretch San Diego, New York, Chicago, Pittsburgh, etc..... Saw Fred Taylor run it a bunch of time this past weekend too.
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Post by lochness on Dec 3, 2007 9:42:15 GMT -6
True dat, homeboy. True dat.
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Post by lochness on Dec 3, 2007 7:38:33 GMT -6
This is why I prefer the college game. College game is all spread though Now, now, Wing... I seem to remember Pitt lining up in a straight-I formation using "21" personnel for most of the game and beating the mighty WV spread / 335 defense hype sometime fairly recently... I also seem to remember the Boomer-Sooners coming out about 80% under center and using a power running game to beat the spread game of Mizzou as well. I too prefer the college game, because there is more diversity in what is being run on both offense and defense. But, yes...it seems like the majority of it is "spread," which is really too bad, because it's becoming very cookie-cutter and very boring to watch the same thing over and over again. I mean, I like watching spread as much as I like watching wishbone on "classic college sports"...or any other offense for that matter, but not every game, every team, every week. It gets real old real fast. That's why I took so much joy in watching WV go down to a clearly inferior team with a straight-up "I" offense that is maligned by all the "modern geniuses." I really think that Pitt outcoached WV (not turning this into a fan discussion, keeping it to coaching). I don't think there is any doubt about it. Some of Pitt's playcalling was phenomenal and very VERY ballzy. The defense played fantastic and was very well coached on scheme and fundamentals. I LOVE IT!! Just my opinion.
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Post by lochness on Jan 19, 2006 19:43:36 GMT -6
Coach,
My method of learning to "see more" was to watch film for years until my eyes bled, and then watch some more. Now, I know exactly how to watch the games and I can see what I need to see with my primary vision, and understanding exactly what is happening there makes it easier for my secondary vision to pick up the rest.
For example, if I have watched enough film of wing-t teams, and I understand the details of how their plays are run, then I can watch a game live of a wing-t team and know, as soon as I see the backfield action, what the offensive line and receivers are doing.
It takes time and study, but I think that's how I've developed.
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Post by lochness on May 3, 2006 4:45:39 GMT -6
You can get the ball to your I / offset FB a number of different ways.
First, think options: Midline Inside Veer Outside Veer
Next, think "double dive" action Belly play: Belly (as the first back) Belly Midline
Trap action stuff: FB Trap (great out of offset when run as a counter against iso or toss action) FB G (playside guard traps off-tackle defender. great compliment to OV)
Also, you can run a very effective quick pitch to the offset FB, which is identical to the quick pitch that you would see run out of split backs. I think it is a mistake to assume that FB's can't be effective outside. Even if he is not a quick back like your TB might be, if you get effective blocking, you can be very effective getting a bigger more durable back out on the perimeter quickly, especially if he is one-on-one with a CB.
We also involve him in our passing game, although not as much as we should. We're working on throwing to our backs more for next season.
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Post by lochness on May 2, 2006 4:23:51 GMT -6
We run a lot of I and offset I, and our philosophy is always to get our two best backs on the field at the same time. Usually the "FB" is the guy who is the better blocker, but it has been a long time since we've had a 5'10 215 lb bruiser. We usually end up with a 180-190 lb guy who is more of a tough-nosed tailback mold. We'll give him the ball 15 times a game, and the tailback probably gets it 20. There's not a big difference for us.
There IS a big difference in how you can utilize the FB at the HS level vs. the pro level, however.
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Post by lochness on Nov 2, 2007 13:39:32 GMT -6
Longest: Twins Left, End over L Belly 1 Left fake crossbuck fly Chuck, How does the "End Over" stuff work for you?
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Post by lochness on Oct 31, 2007 6:23:24 GMT -6
"One Shift, B5 Right-24 Belly Pass 9/5/7 Z Rip"
That's probably the longest playcall I've ever actually used.
"One Shift" means we are going to start off in a Pro I Left formation and shift into the called formation.
"B5Right" is the called formation. "B" is our Basic Splitbacks look. "5" puts the Z receiver in the left WB position. "Right" aligns the TE on the right and the SE on the Left.
"24 Belly Pass" is the playaction pass we are running. It tells the backfield which play to fake, as well as communicating the fact that we are using a playaction protection scheme.
"9/5/7" are the routes we are running. X runs a 9 route (stalk and go), Y runs a 5 route (out) and Z runs a 7 route (corner)
"Z Rip" brings the Z in motion from the left wing position to the right position.
The shortest playcall we have is probably:
"I4-36 Belly"
"I4" is the formation. "I" is...well...an "I." "4" tells the Z to be in the right sniffer position. There is no "right" or "left" call because we are in double TE's.
"36 Belly" is a double dive to the TB in the right C gap.
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Post by lochness on Apr 3, 2008 21:18:31 GMT -6
Coach, I predict in the year 2050... 1. After the Earth has recovered from the ashes of World War 4, football games will be played in 3 dimensions with players wearing jet packs. Radiation suits replace Riddell equipment. 2. Genetically enhanced humanoids will play against cyborgs for ultimate gridiron supremacy. The losers will be exiled to Uranus for one light-year. 3. Scoring will not occur by the number of times the offense moves the ball across a goal line or kicks the ball through a goal. Ultimately, football will become like cheerleading (others know it as "Spirit") where judges award teams for having the most innovative and fun offenses and defenses. 4. Lightsabers will be optional 5. Football information (both strategic and tactical) will be beamed directly into the brains of the players (Like "The Matrix" you fools!), therefore coaching largely becomes obsolete... 6. Blocking and tackling, because they are dangerous and require violent primitive emotions, will be outlawed. Instead, players will be trained to use the force to knock opponents over. DO NOT FEAR THE FUTURE!!!! [glow=red,2,300]THERE IS NO SANCTUARY![/glow]
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Post by lochness on Feb 21, 2008 10:11:14 GMT -6
I would be interested in hearing suggestions to make football more fun. This is one area that I am always wanting to improve upon. RUN THE SPREAD AND THE 3-3-5!! Kidding. I think "fun" is a relative state-of-mind. What's "fun" for Bobby Zero isn't going to be fun for Jimmy Nil. You want to build your team around guys that think blocking and tackling are fun, and guys that think the physical nature and intensity of football are "fun." Contrary to what some would have you believe, these kids STILL exist. If I have to change my systems or philosophy simply to get "athletes" out, then I am missing the point I think. Football is special,and it's not necesarily for everyone. I don't want to sell out trying to get every type of athlete in the school to like football. They can go play "scoreless soccer" if they want to feel good about themselves and have fun 100% of the time. It's very frustrating to get a great athlete who is soft. Everyone says "U GUTTA FIND WAYZ 2 UZE DAT ATHLETE, COACH...DUH!"...but if he ain't a football player, he AIN'T a football player. There are certain elements that make up a football player, and courage and love for contact are essential, in any given situation. I think you can make things "fun" simply by knowing when to lighten up on occasion, by having good team-building stuff before and during the season, and all of those little things. It's like someone else here said..."if they don't wanna play, they don't wanna play." I would never change our philosophy or approach to the game just to get a basketball player or two to come out (for example). It just isn't worth it in the end. They'll always be the "basketball guy who plays football" rather than a true football player. If you have guys that TRULY play both and are dedicated to both, then that is great. We've had some of those guys too, and they are typically great leaders, great athletes, ane great in the classroom...but they are a more rare breed.
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Post by lochness on Sept 19, 2007 7:42:55 GMT -6
Stick to your guns on your policy, you absolutely did the right thing.
As for the player's continued participation on the team, I'd keep that between you and the player. If the player wants to come back, that conversation should be between he and the head coach.
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