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Post by s73 on Mar 28, 2019 19:20:45 GMT -6
I am probably a little older than you, but I do remember when people use to take smoke breaks and it was ok. When I was in high school (1988-1992), there was a "smoking lounge" for students. Ok...it wasn't actually a lounge. It was about a 15'x15' marked-off spot right outside an exterior door. In order to access the smoking lounge, you had to have a pass that was signed by your parents. Having a smoking lounge pass basically made you nobility among the burnouts and metalheads. NICE!!!! I was 85-89 and we had a spot called "smokers corner". I'm not sure what the prerequisite was to attend but based on what I saw I'm sure most of them fit the criteria. With that said, I do like metal heads. Used to watch head bangers ball when MTV actually played music. Good ol days.
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Post by s73 on Mar 28, 2019 17:57:05 GMT -6
I'd say I can't wrap my head around a kid being intentionally deceptive to their coaches to miss an in season event, and then being upset when they face repercussions for that choice. That makes more sense. I tell my students (ages 5-12) all the time "Why are you upset? You know the rule, you chose to break that rule. What did you think was going to happen?" Of course, we are living in a world where LSU's basketball coach Will Wade still thinks he should be coaching after being recorded on an FBI wire tap complaining to a convicted felon about the "offer" he made to a kid's "handler"... Don't want to be too specific here as it's still kid and all. But, had a kid (starter) text me Sunday evening last season the week of our play off game that he wasn't going to be present for the game as he had a previous sporting commitment the day of our game. Yes, sent a text. Needless to say I removed him from the squad. Mom called all irate and I said, fine, I'll let him finish in good standing if he comes and talks w/ me personally about it. She said, I don't think he'll do that. I said, that;s his choice then. She then vilified me to many parents for not seeking him out instead and offering him a 2nd chance. Was unfortunate b/c he is likable enough, starter and overall had no prior bad history with him. Whole thing sucked.
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Post by s73 on Mar 28, 2019 11:45:13 GMT -6
I see a couple of problems with banning cell phones from the classroom. For one, with all of the worry about school shootings I can see that there will be a pushback as a safety issue. Secondly, a lot of schools are pushing the use of cell phones or tablets as teaching tools. For example, in our leadership class last year, the text was loaded to the internet and the kids used their phones or school-issued tablets instead of a paper text. As big of a PITA that using the phones for social media in class is, I don't see a ban anytime soon. No, you're 100% on that. Our rule is it's to the discretion of the teacher. Unfortunately, teachers who don't use them still get fight from kids and become angry at those who support cell phone use for education. Theirs no real answer here. I wonder what 20 years will bring. Like I said above, I could see HS being more like college schedules where kids only appear periodically and do much more from home. Buildings will be partially empty at times and not near the community gathering places they are now. Wouldn't surprise me if the European model of sports takes the place of HS teams years down the road where you have community teams rather than HS teams. Who knows.
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Post by s73 on Mar 28, 2019 11:16:20 GMT -6
I think the prob is exactly as you describe. It's philosophical. Some parents, faculty & admin all differ in their views on this. Hence, you can never get a clear constituency. Besides, that it's an addiction so even of they are banned they are still gonna try. Plus, many teachers are just as addicted so your faculty is split on upholding the rule leaving the admin pissing in the wind. I think school and athletics is a GREAT place & opportunity for kids to GET AWAY from electronics and work on communication skills. I think that would be much mentally & emotionally and SOCIALLY healthier for all of us. But unless it's enforced legally (never gonna happen) I think we are left to deal. In fact, I believe before I retire (8-9 years) online schooling from home will be well on it's way, thus eliminating even more personal social contact. JMO. I guess I'm just at a loss with this subject as I see so many parents and adults who don't view it as a problem, even when it obviously becomes an issue. A few years ago, I booted a girl off of the volleyball team for taking nude pictures of herself in the locker room and sending it to her boyfriend. The picture went viral, the police were involved and it was a royal PITA to handle. We had a zero tolerance policy for cell phones in locker rooms but I still had the parents fighting me on kicking her off of the team. She received OSS for it as well and they fought the administration on it. Low and behold, she showed up to school after her suspension with her cell phone in hand. Of course. And you're the bad guy. just OSS'd a kid for filming a fight in the locker room and posting it all over to make fun of the girl (yes girl fight) who lost.
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Post by s73 on Mar 28, 2019 9:03:41 GMT -6
So, I'm wondering if other schools or programs are having the same issues we are with social media. Over the last three years, every single fist fight we've have has been spurred on by social media interaction. One of the fights happened between two basketball players when I was AD so I got to see the social media posts that fueled the fire. Needless to say, I was shocked by what the kids were saying to one another and I was no angel when it came to running my mouth at their age. They keyboard warriors were out in force before that fight finally broke out and the administration and I dragged all of the kids involved and their parents in to discuss is as we was trying to sort everything out. In the end, the two kids that actually duked it out were suspended for a few games but we actually kicked a kid off of the team who didn't throw a single punch. The chit he was spitting out over social media was way out of line and some of it was happening during school hours so the administration gave him a few days ISS and I booted him from the team. We had a multitude of other kids that were punished via detention, ISS, and consequences on the basketball team. But, what really bugged me about the whole situation was the fact that all but one of those kids showed back up to school with their cell phones. I ended up confiscating two phones a few days after all the consequences were laid out as they didn't turn them before my class started.. I had pushed for them to lose all cell-phone privileges in school but the administration wouldn't touch it as it would have "violated policy". In my three years here, I have pushed to change our policy to completely ban cell-phone use during the day. The kids can have them before school, at lunch and after school but that's it. No cell phone allowed in classes, PERIOD. But, I get push back from staff members over this as well.. I think the prob is exactly as you describe. It's philosophical. Some parents, faculty & admin all differ in their views on this. Hence, you can never get a clear constituency. Besides, that it's an addiction so even of they are banned they are still gonna try. Plus, many teachers are just as addicted so your faculty is split on upholding the rule leaving the admin pissing in the wind. I think school and athletics is a GREAT place & opportunity for kids to GET AWAY from electronics and work on communication skills. I think that would be much mentally & emotionally and SOCIALLY healthier for all of us. But unless it's enforced legally (never gonna happen) I think we are left to deal. In fact, I believe before I retire (8-9 years) online schooling from home will be well on it's way, thus eliminating even more personal social contact. JMO.
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Post by s73 on Mar 28, 2019 8:37:18 GMT -6
A lot of places had/have smoke breaks. I remember back in the 80's when my dad was coaching and the teachers would sprint down the hall to the loading dock between classes for a smoke break. Those were the good old days. I had an English teacher in the 80's who would assign us a chapter to read & then "disappear" for several minutes at a time. He'd always come back smelling of cigarettes. Infant, he was permitted to smoke in his office, or just did. Not sure which. So we'd come see him with a question and his desk was littered w/ butts and ashtrays. Funny thing is, never even occurred to me at the time as unusual. Good ol' days indeed.
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Post by s73 on Mar 28, 2019 8:15:09 GMT -6
When we showed game film to team we would stop at halftime and give them five minute break to stretch legs, go to bathroom, get a drink of water, or yes, check their phones if they chose before coming back to watch 2nd Half and some upcoming opponents tape. Hopefully it helped them "focus" knowing they would get a short break after ~45 minutes and they'd be done in another 45 minutes to an hour. Heck I didn't like watching tape all the way through, ours or opponents, took breaks at least every half. Often on Saturday afternoons I'd do a half, watch some CFB, then go back to film. Why would I have kids sit there in the dark for two hours straight? Dark is very conducive to Zs anyway. This is how we handle film sessions; get through a half of film, take a five minute break and then finish it up. And, we're usually looking at around 45 minutes as well. I think we've got an issue on our hands if people can't be expected to pay attention and interact for 45 minutes. We're not just sitting there jawing at them either; we're broken up into positions and continually interacting with the kids throughout that space of time. Kingsbury is a high level coach and knows his players. However, we're not going to stop a film session every 20 minutes so the kids can look at Post Malone's instagram account. I'm also in a Dean's position at my school and the vast majority of discipline I deal w/ nowadays is related to SM. That's another consideration to this IMO. NFL guys are noted for getting themselves in trouble in recent years. Not so sure MORE SM exposure helps that situation. I could seriously see a Cardinal player coming out of the meeting and tweeting something derogatory about how boring the meeting is whatever and causing an issue there. The other factor I consider here is once you take the "genie out of the bottle" you ain't getting it back in. If he decides this was a bad idea, good luck now restricting the privilege once you gave it to them. That's a serious uphill climb. Our school used to ban cell phone use during school hours except for educational purposes as decided on by their teacher. Then a new principal came in and gave them cells. Now...when a kid abuses the privilege it's WAR when I have to confiscate a phone. Many, NOT ALL, fully believe they are entitled to use phones during the school day as they see fit b/c it's their property. It's just a headache and the FB field is one of MY sanctuaries away from SM. I plan to keep it that way.
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Post by s73 on Mar 28, 2019 7:38:38 GMT -6
The problem is if you read the article he specifically states, I see them "itching to get at those things". They're grown men, suck it up 'til the meetings done. Let's put it in a different light. Ask your HC / principal / whomever is in authority to you in the middle of a meeting if they can stop the meeting b/c your itching to get to your social media. Or, for those of you who attend church, hold a meeting with the pastoral group to see if they can implement cell phone breaks during services, may twice an hour. Maybe our veterans can negotiate "phone breaks" w/ the Taliban? Obviously I'm being facetious but you get the point. Make it through a friggin meeting man. I have no issue w/ a break, but when KK says the break is BECAUSE I see the TWITCHING TO GET AT THOSE THINGS, well.....that's a problem. JMO. Sports media is going downhill. This is a non issue. These players do not have a "regular" job. So the rules of their world are probably much different than any of ours. Facetious or not, comparing a football meeting to war is downright ridiculous. Agreed on final part. However, these guys shelf life for playing FB is an average of 2-3 years. If we can run meetings and practices for longer periods w/ hS kids and prep them for life after FB I would think the NFL could easily do the same. JMO. If it works, great. I just don't agree w/ lowering expectations. Take driving for example. Are we as society going to get to a point where we need to pull over every 20 minutes b/c we can't focus on the road long enough w/o checking SM? Then again, maybe we should I guess w/ all the accidents. Maybe I'm swimming upstream here & the expectation now is the SM addiction is incurable and we just have to adapt to allow for it. Just feels like giving up to me.
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Post by s73 on Mar 27, 2019 22:30:00 GMT -6
They ain't getting phone breaks during games, need to focus for 2 + hours, they need to practice that way to be most effective. JMO.
Are you sure? LOL, as I was typing it I was thinking the exact same thing. Hopefully that's not the next shoe to drop.
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Post by s73 on Mar 27, 2019 21:21:46 GMT -6
The problem is if you read the article he specifically states, I see them "itching to get at those things". They're grown men, suck it up 'til the meetings done. Let's put it in a different light. Ask your HC / principal / whomever is in authority to you in the middle of a meeting if they can stop the meeting b/c your itching to get to your social media. Or, for those of you who attend church, hold a meeting with the pastoral group to see if they can implement cell phone breaks during services, may twice an hour. Maybe our veterans can negotiate "phone breaks" w/ the Taliban? Obviously I'm being facetious but you get the point. Make it through a friggin meeting man. I have no issue w/ a break, but when KK says the break is BECAUSE I see the TWITCHING TO GET AT THOSE THINGS, well.....that's a problem. JMO. We have a professional development meeting once a week. It is between 45 minutes and an hour long. We are a big school so we have many staff members in attendance, and if you look around you see many TEACHERS on their phone as someone is presenting. How many times do you see someone having a conversation with someone and they pull their phone out to tespind to a text while SOMEONE is already speaking to their face, or someone reads their Apple Watch. And it’s not just kids I see adults doing it all the time. As an above poster mentioned, it’s an addiction, I believe what many people are saying is rather than fight it, find a way to be productive while working around it. How many people to you see texting/checking their phone while driving? A quick google search says 1 in 4 car accidents are related to phone usage. www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/cause-of-accident/cell-phone/cell-phone-statistics.html This isn’t just a kid problem. Absolutely agree, not just a kid problem. It's societal. Where I disagree is the whole "let's work around it". I believe you "practice how you play and you play how you practice". They ain't getting phone breaks during games, need to focus for 2 + hours, they need to practice that way to be most effective. JMO.
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Post by s73 on Mar 27, 2019 18:52:54 GMT -6
If he called it a break and didn’t label it a cell phone break it wouldn’t be a big deal. I’m sure his meeting lengths have been research backed. The problem is if you read the article he specifically states, I see them "itching to get at those things". They're grown men, suck it up 'til the meetings done. Let's put it in a different light. Ask your HC / principal / whomever is in authority to you in the middle of a meeting if they can stop the meeting b/c your itching to get to your social media. Or, for those of you who attend church, hold a meeting with the pastoral group to see if they can implement cell phone breaks during services, may twice an hour. Maybe our veterans can negotiate "phone breaks" w/ the Taliban? Obviously I'm being facetious but you get the point. Make it through a friggin meeting man. I have no issue w/ a break, but when KK says the break is BECAUSE I see the TWITCHING TO GET AT THOSE THINGS, well.....that's a problem. JMO.
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Post by s73 on Mar 27, 2019 15:57:40 GMT -6
Unfortunately it is happening in a lot of industries, when there are long meetings or even durning conferences as soon as there is a break everyone pulls out their phones. Heck I see guys at coaching clinic pull out their phones as soon as the walk out of the room. He is just calling it what it is, but I do feel if you can't sit in a meet for at least an hour without looking at or thinking about your phone you do have problem. Well, according to the article he was breaking every 20-30 minutes. That's crazy. I see a 10-15 min break on the hour & if dudes want to jump on phones, go for it. Those breaks are to take a break period. Take a piss, stretch your legs, etc. These breaks are specifically so dudes can go on their social media. Every 20-30. That's insane.
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Post by s73 on Mar 27, 2019 15:20:21 GMT -6
Is implementing cell phone breaks for the AZ Cardinals players during meeting times b/c he says their attention spans are way too short.
Maybe I'm getting old but this seems like another example of lowering expectations. These dudes are HIGHLY PAID professionals. Seems utterly stupid to me. Curious what take others have on it, b/c I'm sure (like all things) it will filter down.
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Post by s73 on Mar 9, 2019 11:01:17 GMT -6
The high school I played at ran split back veer for a solid 22-23 years. As a middle school player we ran 80% of the high school playbook. Same names, numbering and calls. When we showed up as freshman, Rb’s knew the aiming points, lineman knew the blocking schemes and Qb’s and Wr’s knew their role. It was really great as far as continuity. We were able to play fast and play without a lot of hesitation due to overthinking. As a Q, i was pretty damn comfortable checking in or out of any play in the book as we had been working in the same system since 7th grade. As a AC I’ve coached in a ton of different systems, but I’m a huge fan of picking something you foresee that you can stick with for a longer period of time and getting really damn good at what you do. Agreed. Everything you said has value. What's the point of a feeder if you are always changing what you do? It minimizes the effectiveness.
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Post by s73 on Mar 8, 2019 9:43:30 GMT -6
I see everyone talk about changing or adapting their system year to year but how many people are actually getting different kinds of kids year to year? I have never been in a place that was like that. You may have a 1 in a 1,000,000 class or athlete come through but normally towns have the same "type" of kids every year I agree with this, but I feel there is some correlation to the system teams run for decades and the kids they get. What I mean is that successful programs have young kids who watch and look up to successful high school plays and want to eventually be those guys, so as they get older they gravitate towards those positions (usually skills positions) and although they aren't exactly the same type, they have learned the position and understand what needs to be done. Also, a lot of programs who have had sustained success over years, generally have generational players, or numerous players from the same family which lead to similar type of players over time. All of this, I feel, leads to the ability to run the same stuff year and year and be generally successful at it and once they get a class of studs then they win state titles, just my opinion. Probably some truth to this. And I think years ago when we were a less transient society this was prob true in your small farm towns & rural communities, etc. In today's day and age I think this applies more to the private school sector where going to ST BLANK is a family tradition. In which case (not looking to start a public v. private war here just stating a fact) those schools tend to the have the edge over much of their competition to begin with due to socio -economic status, sporting family tradition, non boundaries, etc. I think in most public setting s, and some private settings you need to develop expertise in a system but have some flexibility to mold and shape to your talent. That's why as a flex bone coach I love our system as I feel it is extremely flexible to talent variation. JMO.
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Post by s73 on Mar 7, 2019 16:19:45 GMT -6
Coaches, I have been coaching football for over 14 years and in that time I have run just about everything from the old single wing to the modern spread. I kind of wonder how some coaches just hang their hat on one scheme and run maybe 4-5 run plays and win state championships. These same guys (mostly older "ledgend" types) seem to never have a bad year. Anybody have any feedback?? John I watched a special once on tv about Joh Madden. Might have been a FB life or 30 for 30 or whatever. Any way, JM said when he was young he went to listen to Vince Lombardi talk & he said going into the clinic he was real cocky and felt like he knew a TON of football. He said, he was sitting in the back, didn't have his notebook opened and ready, none of it. Typical know it all youngster. Then he said VL proceeded to talk about his famous Packer Sweep and he discussed this ONE PLAY for about 8 hours. JM said when he left that clinic he realized how little he really knew about football. I think the point was, that it's not what you do but the level in which you do it. I think guys who stick w/ the same thing learn little nuances about what they are doing all the time. No matter how long you do it, you learn a tweak here , a technqiue there, some of it stolen from others, some of it self discovery. But.....after several years of doing the same thing you have built an entire foundation out of miniscule scraps you have picked up over the years and it has turned into a system w/ answers to almost every conceivable situation you can think of. That type of expertise IMO cannot be mastered when you consistently change what you do. And let's face it, many coaches are as bad as the fans, they change b/c they saw something cool on tv so they think it will work the same on Friday night as it does on Saturday afternoon telecasts despite the fact they are trading a lamborghini for a lawnmower. I believe expertise & execution win the day & that take years to acheiev. JMO of course.
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Post by s73 on Feb 20, 2019 23:00:04 GMT -6
Things I have to do before worrying about that:
Play better defense Play better offense Play better special teams Improve fundamentals EVERYWHERE Put some stuff away that was turned in late STILL sitting in my office Secure a low effort effective fundraiser Improve numbers Improve my assistant coaches Improve the quality of our film Close the gap between what our youth coaches teach v. what we run Improve the overall quality of our youth program Organize my equipment cage Get more kids in the weight room Get kids in the weight room to improve technique Put finishing touches on summer schedule / camp Communicate the positives of football in the concussion era Get my recruitment list out to all the D3 coaches asking me about 2020 seniors Stop kids from vaping Lose 15 pounds Get a bunion removed.
Then, maybe.....but prob not.
Sorry to be a d!ck but I couldn't resist. Been a long off season.
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Post by s73 on Feb 19, 2019 12:40:56 GMT -6
No doubt. We have confiscated vape pens from kids & tell them they cannot have them back b/c they are underage & actually had parents common and pick them up for them. If they are getting the OK from home not much a video from some stranger is going to do to change their minds. Besides, they are already addicted and parents either condone or turn the other way (unofficially condoning). This is a problem in every HS in America, no doubt.
We had a player's mom selling vape pens out of the trunk of her car to kids in the school, including football players. And this was at a private Christian school.
My lips to God's ears (no pun intended) some of those schools have the worst drug problems b/c the kids have money. I know the private school in our area is rumored to be the worst. B/c the kids have money & b/c usually the consequences are minimal b/c the school needs the tuition dollars. The day of the strict private school nun is long gone I'm afraid.
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Post by s73 on Feb 18, 2019 14:12:04 GMT -6
We have sent 2 kids to the ER over the last month due to smoking "dabs" (pure form of THC) in their vape pens. Dabs are much more potent than regular weed. Since they are legal in Colorado our kids order it online and have it sent to them. Our district suspends kids when caught, issues them a ticket through the PD & makes them take a 1 day online informational course pertaining to the dangers. With that said, IMO all of that is BS. An online formational course will do nothing b/c kids are always going to push boundaries. What we have done instead starting last week as a district is create an informative video & posted for our PARENTS to help them recognize risks and signs of use. If more parents step up problem will shrink, if they don't it will not IMO. But, to truly make a difference I believe it has to come from home first. Again, JMO. That's a heckuva situation to be with it being legal in your state. The biggest problem we have run into with parents is that tobacco has always been a big thing here. Some of our parents actually think vaping is a good alternative to not smoking cigarettes since that what they have done their whole lives. The synthetic THC is extremely powerful and also there is CBD oil which is another form of the THC that's found in weed is being made into edibles that look just like regular candy ex: gummy worms, bears, peach rings etc... We have had kids sent to the ER, neighboring school districts have had kids die. I agree 100% with you though, until parents recognize what is going on and actually take initiative in stopping it then nothing really changes. No doubt. We have confiscated vape pens from kids & tell them they cannot have them back b/c they are underage & actually had parents common and pick them up for them. If they are getting the OK from home not much a video from some stranger is going to do to change their minds. Besides, they are already addicted and parents either condone or turn the other way (unofficially condoning). This is a problem in every HS in America, no doubt.
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Post by s73 on Feb 18, 2019 11:25:16 GMT -6
We have sent 2 kids to the ER over the last month due to smoking "dabs" (pure form of THC) in their vape pens. Dabs are much more potent than regular weed. Since they are legal in Colorado our kids order it online and have it sent to them.
Our district suspends kids when caught, issues them a ticket through the PD & makes them take a 1 day online informational course pertaining to the dangers.
With that said, IMO all of that is BS. An online formational course will do nothing b/c kids are always going to push boundaries.
What we have done instead starting last week as a district is create an informative video & posted for our PARENTS to help them recognize risks and signs of use.
If more parents step up problem will shrink, if they don't it will not IMO.
But, to truly make a difference I believe it has to come from home first.
Again, JMO.
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Post by s73 on Feb 15, 2019 8:37:50 GMT -6
Exactly! I was on a staff once that had 5 ex-nfl guys, and an additional 2 who played big time FBS but never made it to the league. Good guys, some could coach others couldn't, but I think as coaches most of us realize that playing and coaching are two different things. That being written, having those guys on staff sure attracted a LOT of talent to the school
I've coached against three teams that had ex-NFL'ers as their HC and none of them could coach high school ball to save their life. It's always funny to see them come in with a big splash and act like they're going to maul everybody only to get destroyed. There's a local team that is HC'd by a former NFL linebacker and he came in making bold predictions about how he was going to make his school the linebacker Mecca, he's on twitter & instagram all day/every day telling people how awesome his program & kids are. Meanwhile his team is bad and his linebackers are awful. I watched a few of their games and they were a joke.
The 1st play off victory of my career as a HC I beat a pretty well know NFL guy. He was actually pretty down to Earth but his staff was obnoxious.
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Post by s73 on Feb 15, 2019 8:26:41 GMT -6
I understand the point, but Phil Jackson or any professional athlete really shouldn't be labeled not a great player even if you used quotations. You have to be pretty damn good to get that far. He wasn't a great NBA player, but that's not what we are talking about. With all due respect, I think you are completely missing the point of the OP as well as my post. THE POINT was, do you have to play a position to coach it. MY POINT was no. I used famously great coaches to point out many of them never played certain positions or even levels that they coached at. PJ I used as an example b/c frankly what can he show MJ physically, or even mentally? His greatness w/ those & his Lakers teams was his ability to manage personalities. So....for the LEVEL he coached at he was not going to earn MJ / Kobe or Shaq's respect based on his playing career. He needed to bring something OTHER than that to the table & he did. He won them over w/ his cerebral approach (hence nickname the Zen master). But again, none of this really the point of the OP. Again, point is anybody can coach any position if they take the time to learn it & teach it properly. JMO.
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Post by s73 on Feb 15, 2019 8:15:25 GMT -6
No. And I would argue that most famous great coaches weren't great players (BB, Lombardi, Walsh, Parcels, Phil Jackson). I think that point intertwines w/ the OP b/c I believe many great players struggle as coaches b/c certain things just came natural to them. But a person who was not a great player (relatively speaking) needs to pay attention to every detail imaginable to compete. I think that cerebral approach helps them when they become coaches and it can be applied to coaching a team, individual, position, etc. With that said, no reason someone can't work through the details of another position and coach it well. Might even do a better job than they do of the position they played b/c they may have to spend extra time and thought into the process. JMO. Didn’t Phil Jackson play for the Knicks? Yes. Bench warmer. That's why I inserted the "relatively speaking". He was not great relatively speaking.
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Post by s73 on Feb 14, 2019 22:55:02 GMT -6
No.
And I would argue that most famous great coaches weren't great players (BB, Lombardi, Walsh, Parcels, Phil Jackson).
I think that point intertwines w/ the OP b/c I believe many great players struggle as coaches b/c certain things just came natural to them.
But a person who was not a great player (relatively speaking) needs to pay attention to every detail imaginable to compete. I think that cerebral approach helps them when they become coaches and it can be applied to coaching a team, individual, position, etc.
With that said, no reason someone can't work through the details of another position and coach it well. Might even do a better job than they do of the position they played b/c they may have to spend extra time and thought into the process.
JMO.
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Post by s73 on Feb 6, 2019 21:32:14 GMT -6
I have never done this to the extent & detailed as described above.
However, one thing I have always done that I believe has helped me immensely and I always encourage my coaches to do as well is draw up all of our plays v. various defenses continuously and regularly.
I do this quite often and more so in the off season. it keeps me sharp. I find it a better exercise at times then even watching film b/c it's more "hands on".
I like to draw up opponents defenses and then I try imagine adjustments they would make that would be difficult for us & then draw adjustments I would make. It's kind of a chess match I have w/ myself & in some ways has become almost a hobby when I have down time. Some people like crossword puzzles I like diagramming pays.
I also think it helps you to "see ahead" & readies you to make adjustments going into a game.
JMO.
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Post by s73 on Feb 4, 2019 21:38:11 GMT -6
I’m not quite sure how padding and hudl have been sort of compared as the same. Live, 8mm projector, VHS, DVD (worst format of all), hard drive laptop, and now cloud based hudl are ways to WATCH a game. Sure you can also input data in Hudl. You could also do that Digital Scout, ProScout, Excel, etc. Padding is detailed studying of individual plays. Point being, pad or don’t pad. Do whatever detail you want or don’t want. Hudl has nothing to do with it other than making it easier to watch. Maybe I'm missing something but since you can annotate on hudl can't you write all types of detail on every clip & accomplish similar outcome? Or is the drawing of the play considered to be part of the exercise?
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Post by s73 on Feb 4, 2019 15:24:55 GMT -6
Are you saying other NFL teams don't play MAN coverage and try to get pressure,
and don't have "SEVEN PAGES of DETAILED 'man/technique' (step-by-step) alone"?
Find that hard to believe.
If you watch the game again you will see they played a lot quaters and cover 6 (rip/liz match) more than they did man... It was obvious they wanted to be aggressive at POA up front and zone with the secondary to prevent all the playaction and boot passes the rams run, m2m would've killed the pats... Gentlemen, get your popcorn ready:)
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Post by s73 on Feb 4, 2019 12:19:22 GMT -6
Are you talking about Aaron Donald? The guy that benches 500? Edelman benched 225 14 times at pro day. No idea what he does now. How many of your high school team's offensive lineman could bench press 225 more times than that? And he is a slot. Edelman ran a 4.42 at his pro day. Donald ran a 4.68 at DT at the combine. How many of your high school backs can do that? Look, you can play or can't. Athleticism is more important. But bench and 40 are practically worthless. get outta here Here are Donald's combine results: www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/Aaron-Donald?id=2543485Ha, they p[rojected him as a "rotational 3 tech".....oops.
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Post by s73 on Feb 4, 2019 9:55:17 GMT -6
Yes, if you quit trying to do it b/c you can't. 2 & long's not a winning recipe for anybody. With Goff dropping back and passing, your odds of doing better on 2nd and long passing are probably less than running it. I don't think anyone would choose Goff over Gurley as the player they're giving the ball to in a crucial spot. Well, other than McVay. Gurley touched the ball, what. 3 times in the first half? That's giving up before you try. ok
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Post by s73 on Feb 4, 2019 9:54:42 GMT -6
My takeaways.
Execution still wins the day regardless of scheme.
Many NFL enthusiasts would have you believe that zone / power & counter are the only way to run the ball anymore. Was nice to see BB use alot of I form man blocking to make it go.
If you think about it, on the TD score motioning Gronk to kickout and leading thru w/ the FB is very "3 back mentality".
I thought it was genius. Pats obviously were concerend about Donald & Suh so they decided to man block more & not chance pulling as much and seemed to think that North & south right at them would be more efficient then trying to zone those 2 hoss'.
I think rams coulda taken a play out of that book. Always been concerned about the flat down the line block back by the center on the power / counter game & BB made them pay for it w/ the shade coming over the top & blowing it up thru the centers inside hip.
With all of that said.....Like I said above, not an indictment on any scheme, execution wins the day, new school or old, it's all good stuff.
JMO.
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