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Post by eaglemountie on Dec 2, 2020 14:45:18 GMT -6
Appreciate the responses. How about the pitfalls?
Pros and Cons to every situation.
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Post by eaglemountie on Dec 1, 2020 22:17:07 GMT -6
Starting a program from the very beginning, there is nothing and I mean nothing but a campus with students and interest.
No field, no equipment essentially there is no program.
But there is a want and a need at this school for a football program. The funding is there and plans are in place to begin building a field, weight room, locker rooms, purchasing equipment etc.
There is already an athletic program that participates in Cross Country, Volleyball, Basketball and Baseball.
They want to start with a feeder program and gradually work their way to play a Varsity schedule within 3-5 years.
What would your top 3 priorities be in building said program once you took over?
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Post by eaglemountie on Sept 22, 2020 14:33:31 GMT -6
Kid quit because he didn't want to play a different position than linebacker.
Mom was pissed saying we should have begged him to stay and called the school constantly complaining about said issue.
Dad came up to meet with the HC and apologized for his wife and said "I know my son doesn't want to play, he was just looking for an excuse to quit. And I'm sorry for the phone calls."
Found out later the real issue was Mom was pissed she wasn't going to be a part of the Football Moms club on Friday night and get to wear her new "My Son Number 54" sweatshirt she bought for $50.
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Post by eaglemountie on Jul 1, 2020 20:56:42 GMT -6
Found this thread while staying home and looking through the site. I usually confine my posts to “Rules of the Game” but have some thoughts on this one. There is no denying that there are some bad officials on the field. I find they fall into two categories. The first are the guys who don’t give a sh*t. They’re overweight, polish their shoes once a year (whether they need it or not), haven’t read the rule book since state testing went online, and they’re still wearing the hat they bought in 2012. You don’t want them working your games, and neither do we. Given the officials shortage, both you and we are stuck with them until they retire. My best advice is to ignore them. You’ll never get them to admit they’re wrong about anything, so don’t try. If you have the ability to scratch them, please do - and let the booking commissioner know why. The group that needs your support are the guys who are bad only because of a lack of experience. And 100% of us were there when we first started officiating. They read the rules, come to Association meetings, ask questions and try to learn, but they lack experience. And because of the shortage, they’re getting experience on Friday night instead of youth games on Saturday or JV on Thursday. These guys have the potential to become good officials, but many quit in the first two years because of negative experiences with players, coaches, and fans. When you find yourself with a new wing on your sideline, you can ride him all night, or allow your assistants to do that, and you might even get a call or two. But when he quits because he isn’t having any fun, you’re going to have to deal with Mr “This is MY sideline” again. A single supportive comment from a HC to a new official means more than you can imagine. We always say: “After the game, if the winning coach says Nice Job, say thank you. If the losing coach says You Suck, ignore him. But if the losing coach says Nice Job, believe him.” Great so now we have to worry about the officials feelings on top of the players, parents, admin, cheerleaders, etc etc etc. Should have gotten a psych degree while I was in school. Not saying go out and call out every official for every bad call but dear lord what ever happened to growing some thick skin?
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 22, 2020 10:27:59 GMT -6
Bernie Bierman Charles Caldwell Fritz Crisler Keith Piper Harry Ragsdale
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 15, 2020 18:16:55 GMT -6
The 1 on 1 set up for OL vs DL is so stupid. I've told this story on here before. When I was in college we would do 1 on 1 pass rush drills with the DL. They would have a two way go and pretty much win every time. That's just part of it. But then they would start talking all kinds of shitt. Our best DL was going crazy one day talking about how he couldn't be blocked. The DL coach started calling him Red Rock, the unridable bull in 8 seconds. The defense is hooping and hollering and asking who wants some more. I'm pretty reserved and a back up, but said Forget it. I'll give it a go. Everyone is thinking I am crazy and stupid and about to get killed. We line up, I take a pass set step. He comes off the ball like he's about to storm Normandy. Then, I just threw my shoulder into his thigh board and cut that son of a bittch. He went down The offense went crazy! They loved it. The kid was pissed and started swingin. He was an All-American and our best defensive player so the coaches were pretty frustrated. But there was a little more balance in the world after that. You, sir, are a hero.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 8, 2020 15:39:23 GMT -6
Trusting the wrong people to do what they said they would do.
I'm not above making mistakes, I definitely have.
But the worst thing I ever did was give people trust that never should have been given it.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 3, 2020 15:02:07 GMT -6
The more rules you have the more you are opening up yourself to "lawyer parents". Very general rules are the way to go And to add onto that dealing with gray areas can be a major pain so always add that any and all issues will be dealt with at the "Coaches Discretion." Leaves you some leeway to deal with different scenarios in different ways if needed.
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Post by eaglemountie on Dec 14, 2019 10:05:16 GMT -6
I think it's easier to accept poor judgement calls as long as they understand the difference between NFHS, NCAA and NFL rules but it's a whole other pill to have to swallow when they don't. Have seen numerous illegal grounding fouls not called this year due to the passer being "outside the tackles and the ball was thrown past the LOS." More than frustrating. That is my point. That isn't a judgement call. That is an official not knowing the rule. And I believe that highlights the impact of the shortage of officials. I will say, that having a thread just to rip officials is probably indicative of the environment that is causing this shortage. There still is judgement in the intentional grounding foul if there is a WR in the area but not so much pass interference as if there is any contact (incidental or not) while the ball is in the air no matter where the ball is it is PI. And I think there is nothing wrong with being critical of officials that do not now the basic rules or game management procedures. It has to be uniform otherwise each game you would be playing by a different set of rules unbeknownst to either team until you started playing. Makes it difficult to play or coach in that setting.
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Post by eaglemountie on Dec 14, 2019 9:18:38 GMT -6
That's bad. Confusing how you can legally spike the ball with taking a knee... SMDH. Another State semi final major gaff in Louisiana. DB pushes WR in the back and out of as the ball is sailing over their head. Fairly obvious call from my perspective. Crowd starts booing at the lack of thrown flag and in response the official (either side judge or field judge I guess, I am not rock solid on officiating mechanics) responds by giving the NFL "uncatchable pass" signal, waving his hand over his head. Thank goodness he did, because the Referee saw this, called him over for a conference, and after about a minute the white hat throws the flag and signals pass interference. I absolutely am ok with officials missing judgement calls, but being assigned to a state semi final game and not knowing a rule like that really highlights the official shortage. I think it's easier to accept poor judgement calls as long as they understand the difference between NFHS, NCAA and NFL rules but it's a whole other pill to have to swallow when they don't. Have seen numerous illegal grounding fouls not called this year due to the passer being "outside the tackles and the ball was thrown past the LOS." More than frustrating.
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Post by eaglemountie on Dec 13, 2019 14:05:00 GMT -6
How many points does your IQ drop when you put on the stripes every friday night?
How big does your ego have to be to not admit when you made a wrong call or missed a call completely?
Do you feel justified abusing your power on friday nights due to being bullied during your childhood because you were a giant nerd and/or not athletic?
Just Kidding!!! Don't give me 15!!!
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Post by eaglemountie on Dec 9, 2019 14:19:11 GMT -6
Opposing team is ready to take a knee to run the clock out. They are in the pistol. The white hat stops the QBs cadence and tells him he must go under center to take a knee. They argue back and forth about it and the play clock runs out and they give them a delay of game. They go under center the next play and run the clock out.
Didn't really have an effect on the game but my lord.
This was a state semi-final game.
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Post by eaglemountie on May 21, 2019 20:28:57 GMT -6
Numbers can be used against you as much as admin likes to say they want to see more participation. School I coached for we got the most kids out in recent memory, possibly ever and once a lot of those kids realized football was a lot of hard work and not all sunshine and rainbows they bailed and once we got down to the typical numbers in years past admin decided to fire the HC and the DC based on the number of kids that quit. Only a handful were kids that had played before and of those that had played were big discipline issues in school as well. So really I guess the moral of this story make sure your admin is supportive of the fact that cutting the fat or cancer is normal for most successful programs.
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Post by eaglemountie on Apr 3, 2019 9:28:07 GMT -6
So most of us coach student athletes. And I will bet all of us say things like, "its about the kids, its for the kids". Is it really? Most rules governing our sport in regards to non game day activities are about US, protecting US. Take transferring/recruiting. Those rules are about protecting the coach, there not whats best for the Kid. Example, your a stud WR and you go to a school that chucks it 40 times a game. Next season your coach leaves and the new guy is single wing, is this whats best for the kid? I bet I can get that kid more touches in the single wing!! LOL
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Post by eaglemountie on Mar 24, 2019 9:08:49 GMT -6
In your experience and opinion which of these is the most important in maintaining long term success as a program? (Success defined as winning, championships, player retention, putting players into college level programs, representing the school and community with integrity, etc.)
***EDIT: Add write in votes for Admin/Community Support.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 13, 2019 13:00:16 GMT -6
I've coached every position but OL. I've had at least one all state player at each position I've coached other than QB and that's the position I played.
I think that idea is absurd.
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Post by eaglemountie on May 10, 2018 13:12:09 GMT -6
No punt return team, no fg/pat team, no punt team. Offense takes care of punt (quick kick) and Defense goes after every kick (no returns). I've looked at that approach. How does that go for you guys? Schematics? Any details? I need something to put on my whiteboard and get my purple and orange and brown pens working on. Thanks It worked well for us last year (lost in the state semis). Just kept the group we had out on the field and ran our schemes. Offense (UBSW) ran quick kick when we wanted to punt, we went for 2 when we scored, worked PAT/FG on Thursdays out of the same formation just added a wing on the opposite side. Defense we went after kicks and fair caught everything that was returnable but most punters in our area weren't able to kick us a returnable ball. Saved a ton of practice time. So really the only true "special teams" we had were KO and KOR/Hands Team.
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Post by eaglemountie on May 10, 2018 10:51:55 GMT -6
Some of the things we are doing this year:
Nothing in June. No weights, no running, no 7on7. Come back in July ready to go.
No 2-a-days.
No in-season practice over 2 hours.
No Sunday coaches meetings.
No punt return team, no fg/pat team, no punt team. Offense takes care of punt (quick kick) and Defense goes after every kick (no returns).
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Post by eaglemountie on Mar 29, 2018 9:22:39 GMT -6
n/m
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 26, 2018 10:55:00 GMT -6
Thanks for the response.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 22, 2018 10:04:48 GMT -6
What do you all do to get your kids to join/buy-in/retain and maintain numbers in your community and school district?
Camps/academies? Coaching clinics? Friday night recognition? Varsity coach and player attendance at youth games?
We feel like the youth leagues and middle school team in our area has lacked a connection to our program which has created drop off in numbers due to them not feeling like they are part of what we do. Just want to generate some ideas moving forward.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 18, 2018 8:24:09 GMT -6
Do you use a lot of aftereffects too? I have premiere and don't know how to half of what you are doing. It's amazing!! Some of it yes but full disclosure I can't take credit for the film just proud of the work my fellow coach has done the last couple of years. RunThePower can give you the most details.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 17, 2018 10:37:44 GMT -6
That is real good. What video program do you use. Looking at that I need to upgrade my iMovie. Adobe Premiere
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 12, 2018 10:38:27 GMT -6
Back to Back Region Champs State Semi-Finalists
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Post by eaglemountie on Jan 30, 2018 11:20:43 GMT -6
We finish every offensive practice with 1on1s. We are a shoulder blocking team and have each player match up with someone close to their size and ability (coaches will make changes as necessary). From a three point stance all players will block each other with their right then left shoulder until every coach is satisfied (thumbs up or down from every coach) with the overall effort, pad level, intensity and finish to the drill. If a single coach gives a thumbs down we go again. This drill lasts as long as needed.
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Post by eaglemountie on Jan 18, 2018 18:49:50 GMT -6
A consistent positive message/expectation that is consistently reinforced by the HC down through the ACs/Parents to the seniors, etc. etc.
You set the stage and mental framework for how things are done as a unit and how individuals within that unit can positively contribute within their roles...
Once the groundwork for this team theme/mentality or culture is laid through focused hard work, consistent discipline and team building exercises... The rest is cake...
Have a plan, work the plan and make changes as needed...
Consistent message, consistent delivery, consistent progress... IMO
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Post by eaglemountie on Jan 18, 2018 18:24:21 GMT -6
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Post by eaglemountie on Jul 5, 2017 10:38:59 GMT -6
Last week our defensive line coach told a kid, "Son, your father should have done the football world a favor and just shot you into the curtains." He was a good coach, I'll miss him. If true, and I can believe this after coaching with some crazy people for 12 years, this is the best I've heard...
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Post by eaglemountie on Jul 4, 2017 8:18:20 GMT -6
Pretty much anything said on Friday Night Tykes by well pretty much every coach on that show....just have your guys binge watch that crap and say....Don't do or say any of that... That show is definitely a guilty pleasure. The incompetence/insanity is pure comedy. The thing that irks me the most about that show is the dangerous hitting drills those clowns aka "coaches" put those kids through. As if our jobs to promote the safety of the game wasn't hard enough...
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Post by eaglemountie on Jul 4, 2017 7:59:14 GMT -6
"I hate 7on7."
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