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Post by silkyice on Feb 12, 2024 12:42:33 GMT -6
I likely would have chosen to kick as well, but I do not think it is a slam dunk decision, and I think the math works out that taking the ball was not in anyway crazy. Surprising. If you kick first, you HAVE to win on the second possession or you lose or put yourself in situation where the other team has has sudden death advantage.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 12, 2024 12:13:35 GMT -6
OT for last night: Both got a possession. So it is like a HS rule type (not exactly). It was not sudden death or even the if first possession is a TD then game is over. Again I thought it was absolutely crazy not going on defense first. Hold on. You thought it was absolutely crazy? You do realize that if 1) they hold the Chiefs to a FG, that a FG now wins the game for the 49ers. 2) if the 49ers scored a TD on the first possession, then a FG now wins the game for the 49ers. 3) If you play defense first, and the Chiefs score a TD on their 1st possession (which they did), then the 49ers have to score a TD, and then the Chiefs only have to now kick a FG to win. Fine if you thought they should kick first. I disagree, but somewhat understand the logic (actually I don't), but to think taking the ball first is "absolutely crazy" makes no sense.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 12, 2024 11:44:37 GMT -6
Also, shocked that the 49ers didn't play the 4th and short play after the timeout better. No timeout, I get it. But did no one on the 49ers say that during the timeout that Mahomes is going to have the ball? I realize it was a run pass option, but no reason to go with the fake. And I realize that he could have handed that ball off also. BUT, the season was on the line. Make someone else pick up that first down besides Mahomes. Again, especially after the timeout. Quoting my own post to say that just makes the Seahawks interception all the worse. With the season on the line, give the ball to your best player. And I realize it wasn't 4th down. But same concept in my book.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 12, 2024 11:42:29 GMT -6
Also, shocked that the 49ers didn't play the 4th and short play after the timeout better.
No timeout, I get it.
But did no one on the 49ers say that during the timeout that Mahomes is going to have the ball? I realize it was a run pass option, but no reason to go with the fake. And I realize that he could have handed that ball off also. BUT, the season was on the line. Make someone else pick up that first down besides Mahomes. Again, especially after the timeout.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 12, 2024 11:39:53 GMT -6
I honestly thought the best decision after the FG was a surprise onside kick. It just felt like Mahomes was going to get a TD. How crazy would that have been!
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Post by silkyice on Feb 9, 2024 16:35:09 GMT -6
I think it's a lot but I see where you're coming from. I've not coached that level of ball, I've only been as low-age as MS, but one thing I keep in mind even at the HS level is all these words are just words to the kids. "Trap" to them is what they put down in Fortnite right now. They don't know what Trap is in football until you teach them. If you tell the kids this whole play is called Skittles, they don't have to know everything about Skittles like you do as a coach. They have to remember "Ok on Skittles I line up on the other side and pull". Then you base the tags off of those. "Skittles Pass". ok same as skittles but now it's a pass. The tags should build on the playcall, not be the playcall. Well of course learning the calls is secondary to learning the techniques. And I'm already simplifying things by using "trap" to mean any pulling action (and having only one puller in the formation -- because in my experience at this age, it's about all you can do to have a single player good enough to play the O line and quick enough to beat the runner to the hole). So a cross-block is a trap, and a "trap" to the 1 or 9 hole means pull and protect the outside. And your system would be easier for the kids to remember if they had only a very small number of plays. But as soon as we have plays enough to hit several holes with different actions, they're going to have trouble remembering whatever they're supposed to do based on the play name. I had trouble myself last season remembering what route patterns went with what names -- and was glad that for my role in coaching, I didn't have to! (Although occasionally we did have confusion between the coaches on some assignments.) Several holes with several different actions. You don't get that on 1/2 the teams on the NFL level. How did y'all do last year?
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Post by silkyice on Feb 9, 2024 16:30:28 GMT -6
All of what you said can certainly work. No doubt. But is it? If it is, truck on. If not, think about major simplification. Since I haven't tried it, I'm trying to predict whether it will. I'm sure that's true, but I can't predict what point one way surpasses another. What I'm counting on is that most of the players won't have to listen to much of the full call. They all have to know the snap count. All except the center have to listen for "flip" in the formation. Only the puller (I expect one pull-capable player on the field at a time) has to listen for "guards over", and only the ends have to listen for "ends over". Only the tailback has to listen for "rocket", and only the wingback has to listen for "fly" or "blimp". Some of the line has to listen for "trap", which in this code won't always mean what you'd consider a trap play, but the same general action. The line has to listen for "pass". The center, fullback, and tailback have to listen for "direct". Most of the players have to listen to both digits of the play number. Most of these words won't be there most of the time. 2 digits and a snap count will always be there, and the rest are tags. But I'm concerned the number of words on some plays will still be too much for some to listen to, and particularly for whoever's relaying the play in. When I played rugby by the time I took 10 running steps all the blood would drain from my brain and I was a deaf amnesic zombi. I'm even thinking of having the field captain select the plays for the reason that then nobody has to convey the call from a coach. The only advantage I'd have calling it from the sideline would be a printed table telling me we couldn't use this motion with that count on that play. Play calls don't work like that. I understand what you are saying, but that 10 year old guard who is chewing on his mouthpiece, trying to pull up his pants, while hearing his dad yell from the stands "block someone", can't just magically hear some words and not the other. Some words might mean things to him and some words he might can ignore, but he HAS to LISTEN to it all. I am going to help you here since you asked for it and just said you haven't done it before, three words is the limit for 10 year olds. You go over three words it has to go back to one. Three words is the limit for ALL 11 players to hear it, understand it, and execute it during an entire series of downs in a game situation. Of course that doesn't mean by game 5 after your players have shown they can handle that, that you can't add another word to a play or two. I would be willing to bet that most coaches here would agree that play call is too long for high school kids that play both ways.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 8, 2024 13:43:19 GMT -6
First, once it gets that long, just tag the whole thing one word. Call it Banana. Call it Chevy. Call it Scooby Doo. Call it whatever. My rule is once the play call gets over about three words, then it gets its own word. But then the players have to memorize and decode the whole thing. They have to know Banana means a lot of things that aren't easily relatable to the word "banana". My idea is that by making the play call modular, they don't have to do all that memorizing. Each word means something simple and following simple rules. You're right, I would not expect to practice every combination, so some "plays" would be unadjusted. However, I'd expect that once they get certain rules down, then it won't matter what the "whole play" is, they'll execute the same. Very little changes with each tag. The only tag that requires its own practice is "flip" because everything is mirror image. Doesn't mix well with man-in-motion. If the back has to be just there for the play to work, it has to be timed to the snap. One thing I've thought about, is to have the signal caller watch and call for the snap at just the right moment -- but that sacrifices both the element of surprise against the other team and the value of rhythm for our own team. The man-in-motion would be a complete decoy in many cases, added to a play just to see if it gets the linebackers leaning the wrong way. So we could add "rocket...on two", say, to many plays it has nothing to do with -- in fact, losing a lead blocker on belly -- as long as the tag is available. But that works only if rocket sweep gets established as a threat. The teams I've coached with here in Newton have never used rocket, and I don't know why. Maybe they've been afraid to lead a pitch to a man in motion, maybe they think it works only if you have a real speedster halfback. Meanwhile they've used jet, never with much success, telegraphing it by running it only from double wings and running very little else from double wing -- and never seriously teaching reach blocking steps to go with it. I've already done it with 9Us, no problem. The snapper's head is up, and he either hands it to the QB (sidesaddle T) or throws it between his legs just one way regardless of which of the deep backs catches it. 3 counting "flipped" ones separately? I've coached with 10Us where we had more formations than that -- 5 IIRC, and this was considered fairly standard for that age playing wing T in our club. By the time they were 12Us we had more formations, and more than that as 14Us. All of what you said can certainly work. No doubt. But is it? If it is, truck on. If not, think about major simplification. The only thing I will disagree on is the modular concept. Actually not disagree, just give you a different perspective. One that another coach had to convince me on and then it was an aha moment for me. While modular is awesome, I have found that at SOME point, the modular just gets too big and their brains will freeze or stop. 1+4 = 5 is easy. So is 2+6=8 and so is 3+9=12 and so is 4+2 = 6 and so is 18+7=25. But 1+4 and 2+6 and 3+9 and 4+2 and 18+7 all at once gets tough when you just got hit and run back and you are 10 and the qb calls all of those out and you have to process them and line up and motion and remember the snap count and whether you are under center or not and what you are supposed to do and then the defense moves and you get hit again. And you only have 5-10 seconds to process all that. Sometimes just saying run "Banana" works better. The kid just goes, "oh, I know what to do on Banana." You will be surprised how well that works. It is even better when you can be modular and then come up with one word on wordy plays that match or have a word association. And when they don't, just call it Banana.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 8, 2024 10:41:09 GMT -6
First, once it gets that long, just tag the whole thing one word. Call it Banana. Call it Chevy. Call it Scooby Doo. Call it whatever. My rule is once the play call gets over about three words, then it gets its own word.
Second, if you want to be able to adjust all of those things individually, that is just too much to practice. Especially for 10 year olds.
Third, just have one cadence. Always go on one or whatever. But have a play that is a freeze (no snap). So that will eliminate some words and TONS of headaches and wasted practice time.
Fourth, they are 10. Have one type of snap.
Fifth, limit formations. Maybe 3 formations. And then if you want a special new one for a special game, ok.
Now the play call is rocket 21 trap pass. Maybe with a formation tag. That still is a touch long in my book for 10 year olds, but also fine.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 7, 2024 20:28:18 GMT -6
Yes
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Post by silkyice on Feb 7, 2024 10:44:55 GMT -6
"You have to be you when you coach. Don't try and be someone else. Be yourself." - Coach John Tatum - my head coach in high school and mentor as I coached against him.
"Today is going to be a great day. You know why? Because I am going to make it a great day." - Coach Randy Ragsdale. Long time friend and rival and mentor.
"You don't have to make the perfect call. Just avoid the ball call." - Coach Tubby Raymond
"Have a tool for each situation, but don't make the toolbox so heavy you can't carry it." - someone on CoachHuey - someone please take credit or credit whoever said this
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Post by silkyice on Feb 7, 2024 10:39:19 GMT -6
THIS IS THE BEST THREAD EVER ON CoachHuey!
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Post by silkyice on Feb 1, 2024 18:48:51 GMT -6
That's hilarious! Did he give it to you? Better yet - did SHE? Oh my gosh
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Post by silkyice on Feb 1, 2024 15:22:58 GMT -6
and that he would be happy if his daughter brought home a guy like me. For the first time ever I responded, "what's her number?" Literal laugh out loud!
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Post by silkyice on Jan 30, 2024 17:49:51 GMT -6
It looks great.
The only thing I don’t like is that it looks difficult to drive your feet after contact.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 30, 2024 15:11:35 GMT -6
What is your guys' tell that a team is winning mainly because well coached vs having superior athletes than their opponents? Their HC is named Deion Sanders... I kid, I kid. Dude, It is because of Taylor Swift. I thought we settled that already.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 29, 2024 12:20:13 GMT -6
Just from our 2015 State Championship team we have 7 currently on NFL rosters or practice squads. 5 more who are finishing up at Utah, Minnesota, BYU, Weber State, Utah Tech because of missions and the extra year of eligibility from Covid. We were loaded. We talked about this a few years back, but this is AMAZING!!!!
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Post by silkyice on Jan 27, 2024 21:44:19 GMT -6
I marked yearly, but that is not accurate. I am at least one 70% of the years. But I am averaging more than one per year.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 19, 2024 16:02:54 GMT -6
Can anyone think of another P5 program that would allow two players - HC's sons or not - to miss Initial Team Meeting to do a Fashion Show? Or for any reasons besides illness or family emergency? Jimmy Johnson at the U back in the day? Not saying he would, but he always treated players based on their performance.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 19, 2024 10:04:54 GMT -6
fuckkkk california in every way except the beauty and climate but that is {censored} up Living in Illinois you get all the stupid policies of California, without the scenery and weather. It's fantastic... Hahahahaha
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Post by silkyice on Jan 12, 2024 15:27:12 GMT -6
Weird take. This could inadvertently lead to an increase in participation at the older levels. How? 2 reasons 1) teenagers love banned and perceived dangerous things 2) Many kids play youth football and don’t like it because of the coach or their bodies really weren’t ready for collision sports at that time. If those same kids were to wait a few years and then give football a chance, they might enjoy it and then play in high school.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 12, 2024 14:30:19 GMT -6
Weird take. This could inadvertently lead to an increase in participation at the older levels.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 11, 2024 17:45:22 GMT -6
True, a great football mind. But don't forget that he had the "pick-of-the-litter" when it came to recruiting and hiring. When you have the best of everything working for you, it's hard to lose. Like I have said a dozen times, a college head coach’s most important job is recruiting. Recruiting players, coaches, funding, support, etc
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Post by silkyice on Jan 5, 2024 13:32:37 GMT -6
Looks like my founding of the UC Flexbone Triple Option Guild has already started to pay off. Fellas make sure you don't drink and drive after the celebration... Not confirmed until after a vote by the AAC AD's.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 3, 2024 14:48:44 GMT -6
I know that CU is not on the same level as OSU, LSU, BAMA, UM, UT, UGA, Oregon, Washington etc. I think this is the first time ever that Washington has been thrown into that elite group on the internet. But they deserve it.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 2, 2024 10:24:02 GMT -6
The genie is out and unless the NCAA wants to grab the genie but the nutz and force it back in we are not going back. I have handled a lot of D1 recruiting of HS players. When coaches visit they will take time to talk and I have never heard one coach say they like the portal or NIL. Most that I have talked to are not against players getting compensated in some manner or players being allowed to teransfer. The best idea I heard came from a D1 coach who had coached at all levels working his way up. He said pay them $30,000/year and they cannot touch the money until they graduate. All players no matter who they are. When they come out of school they have $120K+ to start their life with. His comment was giving a million dollars to an 18 year old is a recipe for disaster. If they transfer that money stays with thenm. He thought as far as eligibility goes: If your at school A and the HC leaves you can transfer. You get one transfer FBS to FBS. He said the NCAA needs to regulate who can transfer when because it's like every player is a potential free agent every season. Like you have to be in school for two years then you can move on (unless some other criteria is met). Something to make it so there is a cycle to it. Not bad ideas. The genie is out, but I think even in Alladin the genie had certain rules he had to play by. Can I bring up "contracts" again?
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Post by silkyice on Dec 20, 2023 12:05:44 GMT -6
Not the entire game, but several highlights/plays on youtube:
finals full game interesting contrasts Mines QB has more TD passes than any college player Harding ends up rushing for over 6000 yards on the year Thank you for posting this! Really fun to be able to skip ahead easily to the next play. Total domination by Harding. They were driving the DT's sometimes 5 yards of the ball in the 2nd half. Really cool watching the flexbone in action running about 6 plays and just demolishing the other team. And then going 2 for 2 on passing for 2 big first downs. Ha Hats off to the Harding D line as well. Their pash rush was amazing.
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Post by silkyice on Dec 16, 2023 9:53:37 GMT -6
irishdog CS s73 Wait, so now we are suggesting that there is an underlying conspiracy from Group of 5 ADs and football coaches to direct another AD to order his football coach to not run a particular offensive scheme? Going to have agree here. That is over the top.
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Post by silkyice on Dec 15, 2023 18:50:02 GMT -6
If you count mirrored plays, I probably ran around 30. Wedge Trap Belly Belly lead Iso Pitch Double lead Rocket Wham Counter trey Jet Wrap QB Iso QB Trap Stretch There were a couple more over time. I would count that as 15. And would also assume Iso and QB iso and Trap and QB trap are similar for the line.
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Post by silkyice on Dec 15, 2023 14:07:31 GMT -6
We do a big box offense with common terminology. Meaning the run game is huge: 45 distinct plays 60 if we add tags. Every level from 3rd grade to varsity gets the play book. The 3-6 coaches realize real fast that they will choose 4-5 plays and be good to go Middle School adds a few pass concepts 9th grade opens things up to what the coaches feel the player strengths will be JV is on same install schedule as Varsity Varsity install is base run/ quick until game weeks. 45 distinct run plays!!!!! I can't name 45 distinct run plays.
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