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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 27, 2024 16:51:49 GMT -6
Just curious, how many FBS or FCS players have the coaches here on Huey coached. The poll is just a rough estimate, pick the one that you feel best describes your experience
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Post by carookie on Jan 27, 2024 17:51:52 GMT -6
I don't think there has ever been a year that I coached varsity football that there werent at least a couple of future D1 players on the roster.
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Post by 19delta on Jan 27, 2024 18:00:46 GMT -6
Had one about 20 years ago. Kid walked on at a Big 10 school (LB) and was on the way to earning a scholarship but the head coach got fired. The new guy who came in cut all the walk-ons from the previous regime and the kid’s career was over.
Had another kid who had a decent amount of FCS interest but his grades were awful. He ended up an All Conference DE at a good D3 program.
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Post by 19delta on Jan 27, 2024 18:03:30 GMT -6
I don't think there has ever been a year that I coached varsity football that there werent at least a couple of future D1 players on the roster. They just need a chance, Coach! People been sleeping on them! 😂
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Jan 27, 2024 18:05:33 GMT -6
I've had 5. Two of them played in the NFL long enough to be vested. (These guys were at previous jobs)
I've had a few more that I thought should have had D1 offers... 3 D2 All-Americans who were damn good... maybe an inch short or .2 to slow. Two of them made NFL rosters (practice) and played in other pro leagues (NFL Europe and Arena League). Also- guys from previous jobs.
(By the way, I changed the first number twice because I would remember another guy... so maybe we had more?!)
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Post by carookie on Jan 27, 2024 18:24:40 GMT -6
I don't think there has ever been a year that I coached varsity football that there werent at least a couple of future D1 players on the roster. They just need a chance, Coach! People been sleeping on them! 😂 HAHA That being written, I am serious. Every varsity team I have ever coached has had at least 2 kids that ended up playing D1. Mind you that doesnt mean that every graduating class has had that. I coached a team a few years back that had 4 sophomores that ended up going D1, but no seniors on that level.
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Post by jstoss24 on Jan 27, 2024 18:42:35 GMT -6
2 in 3 years at my first high school stop. 1 in 1 year at the 2nd. 0 so far in 2 years at my current school, but we have 4-5 future D1 guys in the program now. I don’t think I could count the number of former/future D1 players in my 5 years coaching D2/D3 ball.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 27, 2024 18:55:05 GMT -6
I don’t think I could count the number of former/future D1 players in my 5 years coaching D2/D3 ball. In just 5 years coaching D2/D3 college football you had that many players either drop down or move up? In my years of coaching Div 1AA ( prior to the name change) I don't think we had anyone drop down to D2/D3. Had several come from D1 down to 1AA, and 1 that I can remember that slipped through the cracks to us at 1AA but after his Frosh year, some backchanneling between his old HS coach and some D1 schools resulted in him sitting out a year to join a Div 1 program.
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Post by tog on Jan 27, 2024 19:29:01 GMT -6
in 30 years in texas
1 qb in the nfl currently 1 qb hybrid athlete that ended up as a wr in the nfl 1 nfl dt that is now a dl coach in the league 2 cfl dl players 5 d1 power 5 ol, 1 with a nfl cup of coffee at least 10 dbs in various fcs schools at least 10 ol in various fcs schools
1 wr kid that played fullback for us and caught like 200 balls in two years from the nfl qb kid on power pass over 2 years, he had a "list of people I want to kill" I found it, and thought, this is the perfect fullback for the power counter I offense my hc wanted, he cut folks in half on duo and then caught a ton of passes off of it, played slot in d1 college
1 250 lb fb kid we had to move to ol due to injuries, played h back in fcs 6 wr fcs kids 2 fcs te kids 1 rb at fcs , best athlete I ever coached, but injuries curtailed his career, would have been an nfl player for sure, 6'2" 225lbs and 4.5 kid, great kid and family too
countless d3 and other level kids of all positions, at least 6 rbs, 10 more ol, 4 or 5 dl, 3 lbs, 7 db's
about 15 of them became coaches, the nfl qb kid will be a coach someday also, probably in the league unless he wants to take over a college team
the funny thing is to me, most of the time, we were out athleted by a wide wide margin against all we played against my entire career, by a wide margin
glad to have coached all of them, and the others that were talent gapped, the talent gapped kids learned probably more about life and that is what I proud of
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Post by silkyice on Jan 27, 2024 21:44:19 GMT -6
I marked yearly, but that is not accurate. I am at least one 70% of the years. But I am averaging more than one per year.
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Post by coachscdub on Jan 27, 2024 21:49:12 GMT -6
Coached 3 QB's who played collegiate ball, One played QB at a D3 school, the other transitioned to WR at an FBS school, and the other transitioned to OLB at the FCS level.
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Post by 60zgo on Jan 27, 2024 21:52:29 GMT -6
NOT at my current school but at a previous stop… And this sounds outlandish. But it is indeed true.
We had THREE kids sign with Florida State. The next year we had kids sign at Texas, Texas Tech, Missouri, Houston.
I changed jobs and that year we had kids sign with Baylor, TCU, and Nebraska.
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 27, 2024 22:04:20 GMT -6
Never coached a single FBS or FCS football players. Had a couple D1 wrestlers play football, but no football players. Only had 3 players get any money to play at any level past HS. One got about $5k to go to a $30k school. He didn't make it the whole 1st season. Kid was literally our worst OL. School took total advantage of him. It is now closed. One played 3 years and started a couple of them and then just quit before his Sr year. Other was one of only 2 four year college players I ever had.
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Post by kylem56 on Jan 27, 2024 22:22:46 GMT -6
For some reason I am always a way better coach when I have those type of guys!
I graduated high school in 2005. started coaching varsity football in 2006. From 2011-2015 I coached 3 D1 FBS players, one who started 5 years at Michigan State, one who started at Maryland until their coach was "associated" (PC phrase) with the death of a young man during summer conditioning, and one at a MAC school. 2 of them played in those national All-American games which was pretty cool. I thought that was the norm when you coach at a "big school" (high school of 1500+). I became a "permanent" Head Coach for the first time in 2015-2019 (I had been an interim Head Coach in 2010 at a bad school), and never had one of those type of kids. I currrently coach at my alma mater now, and MAYBE , just MAYBE we have a young man who breathed-slept-lived football, he could be a D1 FBS player based on my experience but he does not.
From what I have been told by several D2 and D3 coaches who come through our school to visit. Due to the transfer portal/NIL , everything is cycling down. You will start to see less true high school-to-FBS athletes unless they are THAT good. D2 becomes the "MAC/Sunbelt" D1 type kids, and so on. Many lower level colleges are even recruiting as "hey we will offer you a scholarship, we will help you do great here so you can transfer to "FBS University' and get that NIL money". Some of the these coaches are actually 2nd generation college coaches and have told me they hate this mentality but that is the reality of college football now so they are embracing it.
What I have also heard is a trend is D3/smaller D2 schools going to NAIA and more JUCOs adding football (I am guessing cuase of the popularity of the transfer portal?). Crazy times for sure!
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Post by realdawg on Jan 28, 2024 7:10:11 GMT -6
I def believe that the transfer portal is causing kids to play a level lower than they were in 2018. The extra COVID year awarded to all college athletes in 2020 hasnt helped with either. We should be about to cycle through all of those 2020 extra year kids, and that should open up more spots for HS kids, but unless you are P5 you are generally having to sign a level lower than prior to the portal.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 28, 2024 8:53:50 GMT -6
From what I have been told by several D2 and D3 coaches who come through our school to visit. Due to the transfer portal/NIL , everything is cycling down. You will start to see less true high school-to-FBS athletes unless they are THAT good. D2 becomes the "MAC/Sunbelt" D1 type kids, and so on. Many lower level colleges are even recruiting as "hey we will offer you a scholarship, we will help you do great here so you can transfer to "FBS University' and get that NIL money". Some of the these coaches are actually 2nd generation college coaches and have told me they hate this mentality but that is the reality of college football now so they are embracing it. I can verify this. Unless you are just a straight up dude that can 'wow' on film or dominate a camp, a kid's best best is to find a lower level school and ball out for a couple of years. FBS schools are no longer looking for kids to develop, they want someone who is product that can help them win. The old 'red shirt' year is a thing of the past. Multiple coaches have come through the office stating this to some degree or another. We are already having these conversations with our kids with potential about what paths they need to take.
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Post by jstoss24 on Jan 28, 2024 9:43:32 GMT -6
I don’t think I could count the number of former/future D1 players in my 5 years coaching D2/D3 ball. In just 5 years coaching D2/D3 college football you had that many players either drop down or move up? In my years of coaching Div 1AA ( prior to the name change) I don't think we had anyone drop down to D2/D3. Had several come from D1 down to 1AA, and 1 that I can remember that slipped through the cracks to us at 1AA but after his Frosh year, some backchanneling between his old HS coach and some D1 schools resulted in him sitting out a year to join a Div 1 program. It was mostly the D2 school, and it was the dawn of the transfer portal. I was there from Spring 2017 to Spring 2019, and if I'm counting right, we had 29 former D1 players in that time. I had 1 each at my 2 D3 stops. I thought we had a couple guys move up to D1, but I was wrong. We did have a handful of D3 guys transfer up to D2, but that's not the point of this post.
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Post by KYCoach2331 on Jan 28, 2024 10:16:47 GMT -6
Just had a kid get his first FBS offers. It’ll be year 9 and that’s my first kid with that offer. RB. I don’t think he’s the best RB I’ve coached or the best pure RB on our team at the moment either.
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Post by CS on Jan 28, 2024 12:05:15 GMT -6
3 fbs, 2 fcs, probably like 10 div 2/naia kids in 13 years of coaching
Of the fbs 2 were power 5 SEC kids and 1 group of 5
Had 2 kids on Hardings national title team this year
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Post by irishdog on Jan 28, 2024 13:21:12 GMT -6
1 OL FBS. 1 OL FCS. 1 DL FCS. 1 QB FCS. 2 OL D2. 1 TE D2. 1 K FBS. 1 K D2. 5 play D3, 2 play JC, and 2 play NAIA. All through a 50 year career. Had 4 end up going into teaching/coaching.
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Post by cqmiller on Jan 28, 2024 16:31:51 GMT -6
I've had years where we've had 0 or 1 and then years where we had a bunch.
Just from our 2015 State Championship team we have 7 currently on NFL rosters or practice squads. 5 more who are finishing up at Utah, Minnesota, BYU, Weber State, Utah Tech because of missions and the extra year of eligibility from Covid. We were loaded.
Average is 1-2 every couple years, but definitely had some 0s and some with very high numbers.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 28, 2024 19:13:07 GMT -6
Years ago we had like 10 or 12 all with in 3 classes. Was fun to be part of. Also made me think I knew it all as a young coach. Now I realize we had almost nothing to do with the success of those teams. Couldn't imagine coaching that talent now with all the experience over the years.
After that run not sure I have coached a D 1 player. Those classes were 2000-2003.
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 28, 2024 21:06:00 GMT -6
Two D1 guys I have actually coached as their position coach. 3-4 more I was around either as young coach who had them as sophs or guys who did not play a position I coached. So I had nothing to do with thier development.
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Post by hlb2 on Jan 29, 2024 7:10:49 GMT -6
I have coached for over 20 years and only coached 2 athletes that made it to that level of college football. Of those 2 one did not make it. He was slated to go to Marshall and was at a "field party" and jumped into a pond, that was too shallow, and broke his neck. He was paralyzed from the chest down and never recovered. So I guess technically my number is only 1 kid. I've coached 1 D2 guy and several D3 and NAIA guys, but even then it's not much. Now I was an analyst for a program that put a few kids into D1 football, but I don't really consider being an analyst "coaching".
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Post by brophy on Jan 29, 2024 8:07:21 GMT -6
12 years, six programs, 2 different states.... 7 DI kids, 2 NFL kids (should have been 4). Interesting that there was nothing whatsoever I did at any point to contribute to their ascension (even being with them throughout their program career). Even more, there didn't appear to be any difference in THEIR contribution in practice or games that would've changed the outcome of their future (IMO). Those kids were destined for higher competitive environments as if Zeus, himself, had touched them in the womb.
I've never had as much fun, never coached harder, never had more rewarding (outside the scoreboard) season than when I didn't have one on the roster, if that makes sense. Enjoyed a ton of success on the field WITH rosters full of DNA jackpots, but what we did on staff was hardly anything worthy of being called, "coaching".
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Post by realdawg on Jan 29, 2024 8:55:30 GMT -6
Been a HC for 4 years, 2 D-1 players have graduated from our school during that time, may have another one this coming year. One was Group of 5 and after 2 years transferred to FCS school. The other was P5. During that same time, a couple of D2 kids, and a handful of kids with D3 opportunities, honestly though, out of the D3 kids, so far only 1 has actually went and made it through a season.
Previous stop probably had slightly more talent. We were probably having a kid sign to a D2 or higher level every year. Alot of them were FCS or Group of 5, only a handful of what we now consider P5 kids. I was there for 19 seasons as an asst.
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Post by irishdog on Jan 29, 2024 9:28:05 GMT -6
12 years, six programs, 2 different states.... 7 DI kids, 2 NFL kids (should have been 4). Interesting that there was nothing whatsoever I did at any point to contribute to their ascension (even being with them throughout their program career). Even more, there didn't appear to be any difference in THEIR contribution in practice or games that would've changed the outcome of their future (IMO). Those kids were destined for higher competitive environments as if Zeus, himself, had touched them in the womb. I've never had as much fun, never coached harder, never had more rewarding (outside the scoreboard) season than when I didn't have one on the roster, if that makes sense. Enjoyed a ton of success on the field WITH rosters full of DNA jackpots, but what we did on staff was hardly anything worthy of being called, "coaching". I echo that sentiment. Those higher level kids make coaches look like great coaches. IMHO it is the coaches who "win" with marginal talent that I admire most and consider to be truly "great" coaches. It is those guys who should receive COY accolades.
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Post by coachdmyers on Jan 29, 2024 10:30:33 GMT -6
I've never coached an FBS kid. Had a handful of FCS kids over my 14 years of coaching. If anyone has gone on to play, it's been mostly D3 and NAIA.
The first FBS athlete I will get to coach might be in our freshmen class currently.
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Post by agap on Jan 29, 2024 11:20:19 GMT -6
I've never coached an FBS or FCS player. The highest I've coached is D2.
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Post by blb on Jan 29, 2024 11:34:30 GMT -6
I had one kid who played in MAC after two years in JuCo, no FCS players.
None of the six head jobs I had were at what would be called "football schools."
Maybe because I wasn't good enough.
But I never had many kids who were interested in playing CFB.
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