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Post by carookie on Oct 4, 2019 8:03:16 GMT -6
Game last night on the road, opponent's blitzers are getting a little quick off the ball so we decide lets draw them off side and we call in the play to go on two. Now we are fairly depleted, so we echo out to our guard nearest to our sideline the play call again and add on "think about it." (you know, so he gets the gist).
Dude on the chains realizes it and hollers out, "watch the ball, watch the ball!" They don't jump this time.
To close out the story, I stare him down and ask him to keep his mouth shut and not help the other team. He quickly apologized, and I get it, he's a young kid probably working chains for his alma mater and didn't mean anything dirty by it. Nor did it really impact the outcome.
Got me wondering though, has anyone else had an issue with a chain gang listening in to the coaches and giving insight to the opposition during the game?
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Post by freezeoption on Oct 5, 2019 6:57:11 GMT -6
Not give away a play. Had a very heated game. Place is packed. I guess this team had been terrible in the past. I was new, the dc. At half getting ready to go up to field house on the road. Old man looks at me, he's on the chain gang, and says we're going to kick your ass. I said you're going to have to wait and see old man. Still makes me laugh.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 5, 2019 7:13:53 GMT -6
Not give away a play. Had a very heated game. Place is packed. I guess this team had been terrible in the past. I was new, the dc. At half getting ready to go up to field house on the road. Old man looks at me, he's on the chain gang, and says we're going to kick your ass. I said you're going to have to wait and see old man. Still makes me laugh. And....
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Post by freezeoption on Oct 5, 2019 8:00:42 GMT -6
We won. Crazy game. Aged me a lot that night. I ended up buying holleysoftware with my own money about 800 dollars. One of the best purchases I've made.
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Post by Defcord on Oct 5, 2019 17:31:26 GMT -6
We almost got flagged because of the chain gang. We were in a game and nothing crazy was going on but I was complaining about pretty much anything because I was a young, dumb head coach.
I had been chatting the chain gang a little because they seemed like good dudes. At one point the officials call something and one of the guys in the chain gang blurted to me “man coach that one was some bullshitt.”
The official flipped around to me and said “Coach another word out of one of your assistants and I am ejecting him and throwing the flag.”
Well sir that wasn’t one of my guys but I will let them know...
Everyone on the sideline had a good laugh. The official wasn’t going to talk about it at the moment but had him again that year and he thought it was pretty funny.
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Post by CoachFetty on Oct 5, 2019 20:44:46 GMT -6
We won. Crazy game. Aged me a lot that night. I ended up buying holleysoftware with my own money about 800 dollars. One of the best purchases I've made. What is holleysoftware? 6.2.7
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Post by freezeoption on Oct 6, 2019 14:46:59 GMT -6
It was hudl way before hudl.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 6, 2019 20:16:34 GMT -6
Everywhere I've been it's been hard to get "official's assistants", with games sometimes held up while they got a last minute volunteer from the audience. I think it's asking too much to expect them to act non-partisan and not steal signals if they can. You want a chain crew who won't steal your signals, organize one yourself.
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Post by huddlehut on Oct 6, 2019 21:07:18 GMT -6
Everywhere I've been it's been hard to get "official's assistants", with games sometimes held up while they got a last minute volunteer from the audience. I think it's asking too much to expect them to act non-partisan and not steal signals if they can. You want a chain crew who won't steal your signals, organize one yourself. This is about the goofiest thing I've heard on this board... Where do you coach? Besides, who refers to people at a football game as "the audience?"
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Post by silkyice on Oct 7, 2019 6:53:13 GMT -6
Everywhere I've been it's been hard to get "official's assistants", with games sometimes held up while they got a last minute volunteer from the audience. I think it's asking too much to expect them to act non-partisan and not steal signals if they can. You want a chain crew who won't steal your signals, organize one yourself. Wait, WHAT???
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Post by fantom on Oct 7, 2019 6:55:14 GMT -6
Everywhere I've been it's been hard to get "official's assistants", with games sometimes held up while they got a last minute volunteer from the audience. I think it's asking too much to expect them to act non-partisan and not steal signals if they can. You want a chain crew who won't steal your signals, organize one yourself. Ummm, yeah......They don't let us do that at away games.
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Post by dytmook on Oct 7, 2019 7:00:56 GMT -6
Once had a guy on the chains try to fight our staff at the end of the first half. The opponent didn't try to get him removed right away either. Let him loiter around the kids, dude threw a punch at the HC and kept charging. One of our kids actually pulled him away from the HC with a waist lock. I had to come down from the pressbox to get in between our kids and him on the field. They also let him leave and come back right by us when we were walking to our bus. A total safety disaster.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 7, 2019 18:06:57 GMT -6
Everywhere I've been it's been hard to get "official's assistants", with games sometimes held up while they got a last minute volunteer from the audience. I think it's asking too much to expect them to act non-partisan and not steal signals if they can. You want a chain crew who won't steal your signals, organize one yourself. This is about the goofiest thing I've heard on this board... Where do you coach? Besides, who refers to people at a football game as "the audience?" Let's see...there are people who are there to play, people who are there to help them play, people who are there to watch them play, and...occasional confused people who see an open space and wander into it. I'm just saying you may be lucky to get volunteers to hold the down box and sticks at all, let alone that they not steal your signals, trip your entering substitutes, or drink your Gatorade. If you want a better class of help, better pay them. Hell, game before last the PA announcer on seeing a team threaten to go up by a third TD asked, "Will this be the dagger in their heart?" And it was the visiting team that was threatening to extend their lead!
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Post by silkyice on Oct 7, 2019 18:41:50 GMT -6
This is about the goofiest thing I've heard on this board... Where do you coach? Besides, who refers to people at a football game as "the audience?" Let's see...there are people who are there to play, people who are there to help them play, people who are there to watch them play, and...occasional confused people who see an open space and wander into it. I'm just saying you may be lucky to get volunteers to hold the down box and sticks at all, let alone that they not steal your signals, trip your entering substitutes, or drink your Gatorade. If you want a better class of help, better pay them. Hell, game before last the PA announcer on seeing a team threaten to go up by a third TD asked, "Will this be the dagger in their heart?" And it was the visiting team that was threatening to extend their lead! The chain crew is usually on your side line as visitors, so you have zero control over who is on the chain gang. That being said, they are technically part of the ref group and should behave and act correctly.
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Post by bigdog2003 on Oct 9, 2019 14:35:27 GMT -6
We had a situation at a game once where one of the chain crew was on his phone during the game. He didn't stay on the crew very long that night.
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Post by rosey65 on Oct 10, 2019 8:15:40 GMT -6
We were playing on the road against a team with a very boisterous guy on their PA system. He treated the game like he was doing play-by-play on the radio. He's done it for years, it's just one of the oddities of playing this team
This was 12 years ago, my 1st year. I honestly cant remember which team had the ball, that part is completely gone from my memory. What I DO remember is the offense ran a reverse, and the defense was completely fooled until the moron yelled over the mic "aaaand... ITS A REVERSE!!"
He always says something dumb every time we play there, but this one by far was the most memorable
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Post by rosey65 on Oct 10, 2019 9:10:09 GMT -6
Y'all got me going down memory lane, same season as the reverse play..... we were on the road, the our ball boy was on the home sideline. We were winning big, the ball boy was yelling to the guys on the field. Nothing crazy, but he was talking. One of the coaches tells him "why dont you stop talking and just do your job," to which the kid responded "it's 35-0, why dont YOU do YOUR job." You can see the two of em arguing on the sideline, a big white goatee and a big black afro bobbing up and down at each other. It's hysterical.
The best part is the goatee guy came to our staff when the ball boy was a senior. We brought up the scenario, they both thought it was funny as heck. They carried it between em all season, it was a nice bonding moment for an inner-city kid and a man who looks like Colonel Reb
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Post by silkyice on Oct 10, 2019 9:13:50 GMT -6
Y'all got me going down memory lane, same season as the reverse play..... we were on the road, the our ball boy was on the home sideline. We were winning big, the ball boy was yelling to the guys on the field. Nothing crazy, but he was talking. One of the coaches tells him "why dont you stop talking and just do your job," to which the kid responded "it's 35-0, why dont YOU do YOUR job." You can see the two of em arguing on the sideline, a big white goatee and a big black afro bobbing up and down at each other. It's hysterical. The best part is the goatee guy came to our staff when the ball boy was a senior. We brought up the scenario, they both thought it was funny as heck. They carried it between em all season, it was a nice bonding moment for an inner-city kid and a man who looks like Colonel Reb That is a great story!!
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Post by carookie on Oct 10, 2019 9:43:47 GMT -6
Y'all got me going down memory lane, same season as the reverse play..... we were on the road, the our ball boy was on the home sideline. We were winning big, the ball boy was yelling to the guys on the field. Nothing crazy, but he was talking. One of the coaches tells him "why dont you stop talking and just do your job," to which the kid responded "it's 35-0, why dont YOU do YOUR job." You can see the two of em arguing on the sideline, a big white goatee and a big black afro bobbing up and down at each other. It's hysterical. The best part is the goatee guy came to our staff when the ball boy was a senior. We brought up the scenario, they both thought it was funny as heck. They carried it between em all season, it was a nice bonding moment for an inner-city kid and a man who looks like Colonel Reb Huh? Is this common in your area, to have your ball boy on the opponent's sideline? I don't think I ever had that.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 10, 2019 10:09:46 GMT -6
We were playing a JV game once and had a group of varsity kids sitting in the stands watching. This group of varsity players were smart, watched a ton of film and picked out offensive tendencies as well as the staff. The offense of the team we were playing had all kinds of formation tendencies and these kids were calling them out left and right from the stands.
"SPLITBACKS!! THEY'RE RUNNING SLANTS!!"
-Slant gets picked-
"EMPTY!! EMPTY!! DOUBLE BUBBLES!!
-Bubble gets hammered for a loss-
Their OC asked the officials to put a stop to it a few times but they weren't doing anything wrong. By the end of the game, their QB got to the line, looked at the stands, shook his head when he heard the varsity kids call it out and ran the play.
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Post by fantom on Oct 10, 2019 11:08:12 GMT -6
Y'all got me going down memory lane, same season as the reverse play..... we were on the road, the our ball boy was on the home sideline. We were winning big, the ball boy was yelling to the guys on the field. Nothing crazy, but he was talking. One of the coaches tells him "why dont you stop talking and just do your job," to which the kid responded "it's 35-0, why dont YOU do YOUR job." You can see the two of em arguing on the sideline, a big white goatee and a big black afro bobbing up and down at each other. It's hysterical. The best part is the goatee guy came to our staff when the ball boy was a senior. We brought up the scenario, they both thought it was funny as heck. They carried it between em all season, it was a nice bonding moment for an inner-city kid and a man who looks like Colonel Reb Are you in Virginia? We played a team whose nickname was The Generals and had a Col. Rebel type mascot. Before the game I got a laugh out of the ref when I told him how happy I was to see Col. Sanders finally get that promotion. We had a couple of run-ins with chain crews. One time the crew walked out because they got into a running argument with the boss, who thought they were calling out plays. I don't really know if they were or not. Another time the officials removed a guy because he was blatantly calling out the plays. My son was a manager for a D.1 school and one of his duties was as ballboy on the opposing team's sideline. The code of etiquette seems to be that you're expected to be human, cheer a little but don't go overboard. He said that the only trouble that he had was from Paul Johnson. Virginia Tech scored or did something else good and my son cheered. Johnson barked at him to shut up. The GT ballboy told him, "Don't worry about. He's always like that".
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Post by rosey65 on Oct 10, 2019 11:11:33 GMT -6
Y'all got me going down memory lane, same season as the reverse play..... we were on the road, the our ball boy was on the home sideline. We were winning big, the ball boy was yelling to the guys on the field. Nothing crazy, but he was talking. One of the coaches tells him "why dont you stop talking and just do your job," to which the kid responded "it's 35-0, why dont YOU do YOUR job." You can see the two of em arguing on the sideline, a big white goatee and a big black afro bobbing up and down at each other. It's hysterical. The best part is the goatee guy came to our staff when the ball boy was a senior. We brought up the scenario, they both thought it was funny as heck. They carried it between em all season, it was a nice bonding moment for an inner-city kid and a man who looks like Colonel Reb Huh? Is this common in your area, to have your ball boy on the opponent's sideline? I don't think I ever had that. Chains go on the visitors side, so the press box can see. Ball boys are always put on the home side. We had a JV QB a few years back who was our ball boy for an away game. At the half, he comes sprinting up to our coordinators, rehashing all of the adjustments to be made. "How do you know all this??" "Coach, I stand in their huddle. I'm a tiny white kid, no one says anything" He apparently would saunter INTO their on-field huddles and side-line coaches discussions and look over shoulders at white boards. He looked 11, no one said anything. We were REALLY good that year, so nothing he got was game-altering, but it was pretty funny to see what he could hear. And we could see from our sideline, no one ever told him to go away.
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Post by rosey65 on Oct 10, 2019 11:15:48 GMT -6
Y'all got me going down memory lane, same season as the reverse play..... we were on the road, the our ball boy was on the home sideline. We were winning big, the ball boy was yelling to the guys on the field. Nothing crazy, but he was talking. One of the coaches tells him "why dont you stop talking and just do your job," to which the kid responded "it's 35-0, why dont YOU do YOUR job." You can see the two of em arguing on the sideline, a big white goatee and a big black afro bobbing up and down at each other. It's hysterical. The best part is the goatee guy came to our staff when the ball boy was a senior. We brought up the scenario, they both thought it was funny as heck. They carried it between em all season, it was a nice bonding moment for an inner-city kid and a man who looks like Colonel Reb Are you in Virginia? We played a team whose nickname was The Generals and had a Col. Rebel type mascot. Before the game I got a laugh out of the ref when I told him how happy I was to see Col. Sanders finally get that promotion. We had a couple of run-ins with chain crews. One time the crew walked out because they got into a running argument with the boss, who thought they were calling out plays. I don't really know if they were or not. Another time the officials removed a guy because he was blatantly calling out the plays. My son was a manager for a D.1 school and one of his duties was as ballboy on the opposing team's sideline. The code of etiquette seems to be that you're expected to be human, cheer a little but don't go overboard. He said that the only trouble that he had was from Paul Johnson. Virginia Tech scored or did something else good and my son cheered. Johnson barked at him to shut up. The GT ballboy told him, "Don't worry about. He's always like that". Haha, no, in FL. The "Col Reb" coach's mascot was actually The Rebels. While the argument was going on and ball boy subsequently kicked off the sideline, our managers got into a big discussion about whether or not the coach was actually the mascot. When he came over to our school and we played the Rebels, we continued the rumor.... told our team the coach was so old, they named the team after him.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 10, 2019 15:34:33 GMT -6
We were playing on the road against a team with a very boisterous guy on their PA system. He treated the game like he was doing play-by-play on the radio. He's done it for years, it's just one of the oddities of playing this team This was 12 years ago, my 1st year. I honestly cant remember which team had the ball, that part is completely gone from my memory. What I DO remember is the offense ran a reverse, and the defense was completely fooled until the moron yelled over the mic "aaaand... ITS A REVERSE!!" He always says something dumb every time we play there, but this one by far was the most memorable I've encountered a few like that. One actually was doing play-by-play that was going out on radio. However, until recently I never heard one that ever editorialized in such a way as to demoralize the home team!
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