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Post by shocktroop34 on Oct 2, 2019 7:10:47 GMT -6
Not only are we 0-4, but we've been ravaged with injuries. 7 starters have gone down with season ending injuries. 5 have been ACL tears. We know that the lack of weight room is a major contributor. We also practice on a grass field, but play on turn. We don't practice much on the turn as there are always soccer and field hockey games going on (nothing I can do about that part).
I was curious if anyone had ever heard of 5 ACL tears in one season...
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Post by CoachC on Oct 2, 2019 7:23:27 GMT -6
Do you not HAVE a weight room? That stinks if that's true. I would recommend at least doing body weight exercises. 5-Direction Lunges, Step-up in the bleachers, Air Squats, that sort of thing. I agree, the lack of having a weight room is not good. 5 in one year is crazy...
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Post by silkyice on Oct 2, 2019 7:26:57 GMT -6
Do you not HAVE a weight room? That stinks if that's true. I would recommend at least doing body weight exercises. 5-Direction Lunges, Step-up in the bleachers, Air Squats, that sort of thing. I agree, the lack of having a weight room is not good. 5 in one year is crazy... 5-direction lunges. Describe please. |
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Post by coachcb on Oct 2, 2019 7:48:04 GMT -6
We had four separated shoulders in one season and it was certainly due to lack of weight room time. Three of them came from blocking or shedding drills and we were certainly teaching proper form.There was a bit of a witch-hunt over it but the AD watched practice, saw that we were teaching things correctly and agreed that lack of upper body mass and strength was the cause.
The switch from grass to turf could be contributing to the issue but I would say that a lack of weight room time is the major cause. When we see blown knee ligaments in other sports, it's generally with the kids who refuse to lift. In one basketball season, we had about a eight knee sprains/torn ligaments between the boys and the girls because we couldn't get kids in the weight room. Miraculously, those injuries dropped to nil when we started incorporating weight training into practice the next season.
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Post by MICoach on Oct 2, 2019 8:18:18 GMT -6
I am at a new school this year but keep in good touch with some guys at my old school.
Their varsity back up QB - junior, big running threat who usually gets a series or two just as a change of pace - went out with an injury like two weeks ago.
Last week (against us) their JV quarterback separated his shoulder.
This Monday their varsity starter (like 90% of their offense is him running various read runs or passing the ball) got a concussion in practice.
They're likely down to either their JV back up or varsity third stringer (awful) for Friday night.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2019 8:26:12 GMT -6
Not only are we 0-4, but we've been ravaged with injuries. 7 starters have gone down with season ending injuries. 5 have been ACL tears. We know that the lack of weight room is a major contributor. We also practice on a grass field, but play on turn. We don't practice much on the turn as there are always soccer and field hockey games going on (nothing I can do about that part). I was curious if anyone had ever heard of 5 ACL tears in one season... That's crazy! I've never heard of 5 ACL tears. I feel your pain, coach. We're 1-4 right now and have 5 starters out for the season already, but 3 of them were 2 way starters so it's really like losing 8. Broken ankles (mostly from illegal chop blocks) and arm injuries are the culprits. We played last week with an additional 2 starters out (including a 2 way starter) and have had a couple of other starters miss games with ankle and knee injuries, too. Our weight room numbers have been terrible, though we made up some ground this past offseason. We started our season with 60 kids and had 32 dressed for practice yesterday, including JV players. Our JV is even more banged up and most of the kids we lost there are ones we were expecting to play key backup and ST roles on varsity for the remainder of the season. We're looking at having to cancel JV games simply because we literally don't have any players available at key positions like QB, RB, and LB. We're down to exactly 1 QB and 2 RBs in the entire program this week. |
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Post by nicku on Oct 2, 2019 9:33:08 GMT -6
My junior year, we we're 6-2 going into our second to last game of the regular season. Both losses being to perennial state contenders. We had a damn good team. We are playing a bottom feeder in our district. Dominated the game, but had 2 torn ACLs and a broken collarbone. We had the injury bug already. That was a very anti-climactic playoff run, and by anti-climactic I mean it ended after one game.
I honestly don't think there's much you can do...you just need to run into some good luck. I know, that doesn't help much, lol.
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Post by syphrit7 on Oct 2, 2019 12:45:45 GMT -6
Does your team run on a hard surface during the summer months?
Over the years, I have noticed that teams that run on parking lots have more knee injuries.
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Post by Victor on Oct 2, 2019 20:22:43 GMT -6
Unless the player step in a hole or had perfect combo of at the same time high low hit from two defenders, all of the injuries could dramatically not happen due to a decent weight room program.
To lift weights will prevent when core stability and ankle mobility is limited or damaged. If you really cant have a weight room you must asap do body weight exercises. I would emphasis air squats, bulgarian split squat, air good morning, closed and elevated feet hip extension, planks (normal and side), step down for vmo and different type of push ups.
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Post by rosey65 on Oct 3, 2019 6:58:31 GMT -6
Did you guys blow their ACL on the turf or grass?
We just had our turf field installed. Our trainer was concerned about the transition, was talking about the high risk of ACL tears when changin gthe playing surface, since the traction is different between field types. Dont know if that's true, but it was talked about....
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Post by fantom on Oct 3, 2019 7:12:51 GMT -6
Did you guys blow their ACL on the turf or grass? We just had our turf field installed. Our trainer was concerned about the transition, was talking about the high risk of ACL tears when changin gthe playing surface, since the traction is different between field types. Dont know if that's true, but it was talked about.... I'd look at teams that don't play many games on turf. Do teams that practice and play most of their games on grass have more injuries when they play on turf? |
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Post by shocktroop34 on Oct 3, 2019 9:35:25 GMT -6
Do you not HAVE a weight room? That stinks if that's true. I would recommend at least doing body weight exercises. 5-Direction Lunges, Step-up in the bleachers, Air Squats, that sort of thing. I agree, the lack of having a weight room is not good. 5 in one year is crazy... For clarity, we have a weight room. I was hired late in the spring and don't feel like the we had adequate effort/results that might have some contributing factor with our injuries. We also have two coaches on staff who are certified strength and conditioning. One is finishing his master's. I'm just frustrated, and grasping for answers, knowing full well that there most likely isn't one definitive answer. |
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Post by shocktroop34 on Oct 3, 2019 9:38:58 GMT -6
Not only are we 0-4, but we've been ravaged with injuries. 7 starters have gone down with season ending injuries. 5 have been ACL tears. We know that the lack of weight room is a major contributor. We also practice on a grass field, but play on turn. We don't practice much on the turn as there are always soccer and field hockey games going on (nothing I can do about that part). I was curious if anyone had ever heard of 5 ACL tears in one season... That's crazy! I've never heard of 5 ACL tears. I feel your pain, coach. We're 1-4 right now and have 5 starters out for the season already, but 3 of them were 2 way starters so it's really like losing 8. Broken ankles (mostly from illegal chop blocks) and arm injuries are the culprits. We played last week with an additional 2 starters out (including a 2 way starter) and have had a couple of other starters miss games with ankle and knee injuries, too. Our weight room numbers have been terrible, though we made up some ground this past offseason. We started our season with 60 kids and had 32 dressed for practice yesterday, including JV players. Our JV is even more banged up and most of the kids we lost there are ones we were expecting to play key backup and ST roles on varsity for the remainder of the season. We're looking at having to cancel JV games simply because we literally don't have any players available at key positions like QB, RB, and LB. We're down to exactly 1 QB and 2 RBs in the entire program this week. Man o man. I've been a member of this site for years and I would read posts like this and feel for guys in these situations. However, it never resonated with me as much as it does when you personally go through it. I had been fortunate in the past. I guess when you coach long enough, there are just things that you have to face in this profession. Yet, having experience doesn't make it any easier to endure. Best wishes the rest of the way. |
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Post by shocktroop34 on Oct 3, 2019 9:46:02 GMT -6
Did you guys blow their ACL on the turf or grass? We just had our turf field installed. Our trainer was concerned about the transition, was talking about the high risk of ACL tears when changin gthe playing surface, since the traction is different between field types. Dont know if that's true, but it was talked about.... They were all on turf. All but one was on our newly installed turn. The other one was also on turf, but at an opponents field. Our soccer coach said that his girls complained of the turf being "grabby." When he looked a little closer at the fibers he noticed that some of the blades were looped instead of cut at the top to create the grass look. In other words, you could stick your finger through it and pull it up. I don't know how many fibers are like that, but it would suck if that was a part of the problem. I agree with others as I feel the common denominator is the weight room. In fact, I don't see other kids getting hurt. We're 0-4 and the lack of weight room strength says so. |
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Post by MICoach on Oct 3, 2019 10:05:05 GMT -6
My junior year, we we're 6-2 going into our second to last game of the regular season. Both losses being to perennial state contenders. We had a damn good team. We are playing a bottom feeder in our district. Dominated the game, but had 2 torn ACLs and a broken collarbone. We had the injury bug already. That was a very anti-climactic playoff run, and by anti-climactic I mean it ended after one game. I honestly don't think there's much you can do...you just need to run into some good luck. I know, that doesn't help much, lol. A couple years back we were 9-0 heading into the playoffs and had started the same five guys on OL the entire year. Week one of playoffs our starting LT broke his leg, starting RT tore his ACL, and though our starting RG got a concussion. Limped our way through a couple more weeks and made it to semifinals somehow! |
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Post by coachchambers on Oct 3, 2019 11:51:58 GMT -6
Better revamp that whole weight room program. Dynamic movements and squats go a long long way. When I was in high school, we had one ACL tear and that came from a kid that transferred in and did not go through the weight program.
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Post by CoachC on Oct 4, 2019 8:55:03 GMT -6
Do you not HAVE a weight room? That stinks if that's true. I would recommend at least doing body weight exercises. 5-Direction Lunges, Step-up in the bleachers, Air Squats, that sort of thing. I agree, the lack of having a weight room is not good. 5 in one year is crazy... 5-direction lunges. Describe please. Each of these would be 10x each leg: 1. Step straight forward, then return to place 2. Step 45 degrees forward, then return to place 3. Step 90 degrees (lateral), then return 4. Step 45 degrees back, return forward. 5. Step straight back, then return forward. |
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Post by bigspicy on Oct 4, 2019 14:53:07 GMT -6
Do you not HAVE a weight room? That stinks if that's true. I would recommend at least doing body weight exercises. 5-Direction Lunges, Step-up in the bleachers, Air Squats, that sort of thing. I agree, the lack of having a weight room is not good. 5 in one year is crazy... 5-direction lunges. Describe please. we do these as... 1. Lateral left lunge 2. Lateral 45 left lunge 3. Alternating Forward lunge 4. Lateral 45 right lunge 5, lateral right lunge 6. alternating backward lunge |
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