"Superstar" coaches

that still holds true


being a low integrity {censored} like him?

that is timeless as well

Yes but it was Kelly's SECOND year as HC in Baton Rouge, not first like Sanders'.

And LSU in SEC is a lot different than wherever Colorado is going to be from now on.

Last year, they cut loose the Special Teams coordinator.   
Being in 2 years is even more of a concern isn't it?  That Kelly couldn't recognize after one season the deficiencies in the guys he had hired?  Deficiencies that could be argued cost LSU a legitimate shot at a 2023 CFP birth? 

Regardless I am not making a 1 to 1 comparison.  I am simply pointing out that every program has commitments flip, every program has voluntary and involuntary staff turnover.  Yet for some reason, when it has happened at CU this year, there is lots of pointing and "Look see!   The sky is falling on CU!" 

I do not know  how CU will fair going forward.   What I DO KNOW is that power 5  college football  is more like a professional football organization than it has ever been. Power 5 football players are more like professional football players than they have ever been before, and in some ways have even more desirable situations than NFL counterparts.   

 I know that CU is not on the same level as OSU, LSU, BAMA, UM, UT, UGA, Oregon, Washington etc.  People always say that when you aren't as good as other programs, do something "different".   Isn't Sanders doing something different?  Why must that different be limited to offensive scheme? 

Different, as in force the opponent to operate at a different path.
The "different" here looks to be abandoning common sense FUNDAMENTALS of success.
Cherry picking everyone elses leftovers in the portal thinking its free agency isnt any sustaining method of any success.
I'm sure the very unique situation in Boulder isnt difficult to find those in the know that can detail the dysfunction behind the scenes.

Regardless of personal opinions, there are a number of things being done that are obstacles to building a program.
Namely, imo, the header is such a magnanimous blowhard attention seeker any subordinate or player that stands up as a leader will be seen as competition for the spotlight from the Golden Whistle. This undercuts any call to execute a vision.
Competition has been sold to the program as "make it personal", everyone not sucking us off is the enemy. Anyone getting in the way of us cashing checks is taking food out of our kids mouths. Successful programs build on the competition IN ME...how can I evolve to peak performance regardless of the quality of competition.
The lack of forethought given to developing physical talent, namely linemen are a 4-5 year project. When linemen are treated as an afterthought, pawns needed to get the spotlight on a few specialists, who in their right mind would want to sacrifice for that?

i've heard the same. One of the most impressive endorsements here

Work ethic is great, but doesn't necessarily translate to great teammate or leader.  Same as being a phenomenal player doesn't make you a superior position coach, let alone coordinator. It can certainly ENHANCE the player's experience, but if YOU never had to communicate/teach it, it doesn't matter what you were taught.

IMO the issue with a "deion" it appears all you have to do is WOO the decision maker (AD) and you're gifted a top spot, outside of a vetting process in an industry entrenched in grinding/paying your dues. This is nothing new, of course, with the recent trend to find younger, sexier faces of a program to lure in media and recruits. It brings up an age-old question of Huey board, 'why do you want to be a head coach'? Everyone "wants" the title, but are you willing / ready for that responsibility? What is that responsibility?

Its a little insulting after something like that, to wave your grift in everyone's faces by wearing a costume as you LARP as a Football Coach, complete with trademarked shades, gold whistle, completely fresh sideline ensemble every weekend... we see this quite a bit on any disorganized youth program. Now include this while cajoling your local sports writer sychophants to worship your legend status and rebuke any serious football discussion. Whats to stop him? nothing, so I guess thats acceptable.
Deion is a "disrupter" because he chooses to be. He has always been intentionally divisive to generate interest and drama. 

Fundamentals of winning football aren't philosophy, they're skills: blocking, tackling,effort,catching,hustle. Even outside the analogy, CU failed at those basic fundamentals even by season's end. ANY program can show improvement there, regardless of talent

i appreciate that response - great effort in distilling down to what matters.
The fundamentals thing isn't a "Deion thing". Those programs failing because they have poor fundamentals are dealing with the consequences of it. With Deion, the supporters dismiss these consequences because to critique PRIME is to be (insert tribal perjorative/dehumanized enemy).
Coach Wannabees have been around forever. Its harmless, its like being a rodeo clown. Except if this is your profession and you see that behavior / portrayal as a mockery of what/who you are. The same criticisms were had when there was that Youth Football television series a decade ago.

I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but as far as "have zero knowledge of what is actually occurring"... I, as well as many here, do have enough connections inside and around the program to have a whiff of whats going on behind the scenes, but more importantly for me, is what can be ascertained from the product on the field.
I get that programs lose and athletes can't compete against superior opponents. What I find wholly unacceptable from peewee to pros is lack of effort and hustle on the field, weak mental attitudes. That is a leadership thing. It is a Monday - Thursday thing. Friday night isn't an accident, it took a full week (year/season) to produce what happens after kickoff. If there are blown assignments, missed steps, bad reads...thats all coaching.
What I saw with CU this season was a defense that played without effort, hustle and was bad at tackling. I saw an inconsistent special teams group that looked to be an after thought. Most importantly, I saw a limited athlete gifted the most important position on the field to be a leader that didn't earn it....based on his execution week in and week out. That tells me the coaching leadership refused to demand more from the position....now THAT is something we see in peewee Daddy ball all the time

IMO there is a TONNNNNNNNNNNN of learning/discussion COACHING material available from CU this season. The sportfan loyalties be damned, there just is so much that is plainly apparent available during the broadcast, alone. Not to mention the nepotism family grift that has attached itself to CU (the eldest documenting everything for social media without any true editing forethought).

This coach watched every CU game this year. I couldn't tell you why, but I did. I think everyone knew going in they were a liability so it was interesting to see how they would handle the first game. It was impressive. They tempo'd a tempo team to make a boat race to the half... genius move to cover your Game 1 liabilities. It was flash screens, shallows, inside zone and deep sideline shots - cheap yardage. It became PAINFULLY apparent by CSU (and clearly CSU was confident in what their game plan intended to expose) that it wasn't the receivers, Oline, OC or backs that was the issue.....kill the head (QB) and everything falls apart. This was apparent in the last game when #2 was replaced, you had Staub looking like a robot....very methodical in his gives, fakes, firing the ball off his gather step. Efficient decision-maker that executed consistently.

I would challenge anyone lauding #2 as a quarterback, let alone an NFL prospect, just cut up all the BROADCAST footage of his PASS ATTEMPTS. How many of those attempts was he >ready< to deliver the ball on his plant step (going into the hitch & gather)? Now its time to plug some Darin Slack R4/C4. Watch what happens on every Shedeur drop (the footwork is ridiculously sloppy), he isn't even thinking of a throw until he hits the gather step and he's just looking for an OPEN receiver at that point. Its TOO LATE. The clock/bomb has ticked down to zero and that is why the "oline is terrible". He should have #1 & #2 read figured out by the time he gets to the plant step. Move on to #3 as he gathers (watch the spread of his feet when he does throw) and or reposition....dump off. That isn't what he does. Shedeur gets to the depth of the drop and just freaks out, bails, runs around...can't find the OPEN receiver and just takes the sack.

Of those PASS ATTEMPT cutups, now look at his THROWS - count how many throws you have. Now, how many of those throws were +10 yds and between the numbers (dig, levels, post, etc)?

He never attempted those throws unless there was a broken coverage where the receiver was WIDE OPEN.
One could make the argument that that's just "today's game". Thats what NFL Qbs are nowadays...they don't have to make accurate throws in the heart of the defense, they just have to work high percentage slop (quick screen/shallows)

So this should force the coach in you to ask WHY? Why is this QB only throwing shallow cross, quick screen and the sideline deep ball (not even drop outs)? He had all but given up even throwing stick / spot after CSU. To ME, that tells me he has zero confidence in his ability to throw the ball accurately (velocity, trajectory, accuracy). Shedeur is looking (wide) OPEN receivers not throwing receivers open. He can't do this because he doesn't understand the defense vs the concept he's running. This says he's unwillingly to learn and/or is so used to a simplified 2-route read (curl/flat) that he has retarded his development as a thrower. I haven't watched the NFL in a while, are there teams clammoring for dough boy mid-athletes,that take sacks and can only throw under 8 yards? He was probably a great HBCU quarterback. He has been exposed as a fraud at the DI level.

To me, AS A COACH, this stuff is just academic from what you see on the broadcast.Heaven help us if we knew what their film room looked like ;D


As far as how Deion treats the specialists - he treats them all like they've already arrived in a MAN'S GAME without a care for their physical maturity. The product as-is is as good as its going to get, no time to think about being better tomorrow. Thats how a natural athlete probably thinks, but that isn't reality for 99.999% of athletes. Every single player on the CU roster could stand to fall on a few needles several times.

not to resurrect the horse and keep beating, but it becomes apparent when a program devoid of principles (that its supposed to stand on) pays lip service to honor and refuses to hold its 'leaders' accountable

athlonsports.com/college-football/deion-sanders-gave-his-blessing-for-shedeur-and-shilo-sanders-to-miss-team-meeting-for-paris-fashion-show




this guy is a flipping joke of a "coach" and I have every right to be offended what he's doing to the profession

timestamped - listen to this next big idea from "Coach Pastor Daddy"

disgusting

Fair enough.
Maybe you're right that this team meeting is inconsequential. How far would you be willing to go to continue making excuses?
1st team meeting, starting "new season" after a losing season
The header called the meeting that specific day to set the tone of leadership, buy in, and accountability.
**** nah, imma skip it
Doesnt exactly show a whole lotta loyalty to your teammates, let alone being the daddy-installed leaders of the team. Sets the tone that that there are rules for some and not for the chosen ones. Thats the opposite fundamental of building a unified program.

Nothing wrong with peer leadership and accountability, but he's specifically encouraging a punitive based motivation, gifting unearned power of authority to upper classmen, that he's going to be hands off about. This is How To Develop A Hazing Program 101.

It stuff like this that makes it obvious he's making this up as he goes along.

** play that WoM video from the start and listen to Deion tell his staff about the OC and DC he's working on but the sticking point is that he's not letting them bring any of their own staff

I don't want to speak for tog, but I think why he finds it to be disgusting, is because Shadeur and Shilo are being allowed to skip a team meeting for this and he suspects that were a walk-on from the team to request this, there's a good chance they would not be allowed to miss the meeting.

I have been all about some Coach Prime and Colorado since pretty much the day it was announced he was going to Colorado, but even I am starting to have some doubts. It's starting to look like a total clown show, unfortunately. And that sucks, because I was really looking forward to him tearing it up after that first week against TCU (crappy defense aside lol, that game should not have been close for CU).

This fashion show thing makes one wonder when the team meeting date was set, and when Shadeur and Shilo knew they wanted to go to that fashion show, and if perhaps Prime set this whole thing up with the meeting being during the fashion show so he could send a statement to the team that they are going to receive preferential treatment.

not for nothing, but we infer what you're saying with this term is "made up speculation".
Those vociferously supporting Coach Sanders continue to fall back on "maybe he...." "it could be", "who knows whats going on" deflection via uncertainty and conjecture when presented with 'smoke' / foul odor from the locker room.
This isn't a 'conspiracy'.  Simply TALK to any of your trusted coaching friends that have been on that staff or been intimately around that program and you'll get instant, credible supporting accounts. 
HE AIN'T HARD 2 FIND.

for me, its not a personal witchunt. Its a guy LARPing as a Head Coach, who has been gifted keys to something he did not earn on merit. He's jiving his way through this grift by assuming some Baptist pastor personna that insulates him from negative critique.  He's not nickel slick enough to pull this off at the DI level. While entrusted with this responsibility, his inexperience by hubris gets exposed at every narrow turn in the process.
buuuut we'll keep making excuses for poor execution and lack of fundamentals because thats what we do in society now....

I point all this out simply to say, this will be his undoing.  These shortcuts will be a daisychain of poor decisions where he believes he can outsmart fundamentals of success.  He's been allowed to do this because there is zero accountability to "PRIME" because 'but muh endorsements!'. This situation offers a tremendous learning tool to pay attention to (as it happens) for those thinking they just NEED to be head coach without having the experience while also having the bull-headedness to not receive any critical feedback

Today I learned what LARP is and will now use it to describe the bag men, personal trainer, 7v8 coaches. (yes 7v8 cuz you run the 3-4 and drop 8 in passing league dip sh!ts)

Or running crossing routes through the o/d line