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Post by tripsclosed on Nov 18, 2024 9:48:43 GMT -6
IMO, it depends on whether or not Sanders can actually build a program. Not just a grab-bag of talent from the transfer portal every year. I don't really think he's built a solid foundation through recruiting but I could be wrong. if this were 1998- I would say that makes sense. In 2024 I need to wonder if anyone is going to build a program. Or will it be more like the NFL where Success fluctuates from year to year- aka the bengals the 49ers , the rams, dallas etc. It's just wild to me how much people bag on the transient personnel model (and a lot of that criticism from peo9le is directed at Sanders), it's like have you literally never seen a season of professional sports?? And particularly, the NFL? Lol. This is how it's gonna be with the transfer portal and NIL (and hopefully down the road, free agency and full salaries for players). |
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Post by silkyice on Nov 18, 2024 10:29:23 GMT -6
IMO, it depends on whether or not Sanders can actually build a program. Not just a grab-bag of talent from the transfer portal every year. I don't really think he's built a solid foundation through recruiting but I could be wrong. if this were 1998- I would say that makes sense. In 2024 I need to wonder if anyone is going to build a program. Or will it be more like the NFL where Success fluctuates from year to year- aka the bengals the 49ers , the rams, dallas etc. Agree on don't have to necessarily build a "program". Disagree on the fluctuations. There is no draft. Of course there will be fluctuations, just for different reasons. NCAA is literally professional AAU basketball now. |
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Post by silkyice on Nov 18, 2024 10:34:59 GMT -6
By the way, I don't think Sanders making Auburn great was a sure thing. I put it at 40% national championship contender, 40% at where Auburn is now (which is a disaster for Auburn - but also common, ha), 10% at worse, 10% at better than now, but still not really a championship contender.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 18, 2024 11:05:03 GMT -6
if this were 1998- I would say that makes sense. In 2024 I need to wonder if anyone is going to build a program. Or will it be more like the NFL where Success fluctuates from year to year- aka the bengals the 49ers , the rams, dallas etc. Agree on don't have to necessarily build a "program". Disagree on the fluctuations. There is no draft. Of course there will be fluctuations, just for different reasons. NCAA is literally professional AAU basketball now. I think that the fact that a team went from number four or five in the country to one win is somewhat unprecedented. That’s what I mean by fluctuations. For example, it took Nebraska a while to fall from mid 90s Zenith to solid program (But underachieving for Nebraska standards) to a lesser program by any standard. Florida State did it in nine months. |
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Post by silkyice on Nov 18, 2024 15:52:05 GMT -6
Agree on don't have to necessarily build a "program". Disagree on the fluctuations. There is no draft. Of course there will be fluctuations, just for different reasons. NCAA is literally professional AAU basketball now. I think that the fact that a team went from number four or five in the country to one win is somewhat unprecedented. That’s what I mean by fluctuations. For example, it took Nebraska a while to fall from mid 90s Zenith to solid program (But underachieving for Nebraska standards) to a lesser program by any standard. Florida State did it in nine months. I will agree. I do bet there is probably another close example through the years, but, yes, this is pretty crazy. BUT, could this also be blamed on the playoffs a little? Since they got snubbed after going 13-0 and winning the ACC. Either way or a combination of both, it still means the "current times" contributed or caused the downfall. |
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 18, 2024 17:50:07 GMT -6
I think that the fact that a team went from number four or five in the country to one win is somewhat unprecedented. That’s what I mean by fluctuations. For example, it took Nebraska a while to fall from mid 90s Zenith to solid program (But underachieving for Nebraska standards) to a lesser program by any standard. Florida State did it in nine months. I will agree. I do bet there is probably another close example through the years, but, yes, this is pretty crazy. BUT, could this also be blamed on the playoffs a little? Since they got snubbed after going 13-0 and winning the ACC. Either way or a combination of both, it still means the "current times" contributed or caused the downfall. Didn't a large portion of that FSU team graduate/leave for the NFL? That explains the drop far more than college football being Deionized. |
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 18, 2024 17:53:36 GMT -6
A quick query shows 10 players drafted into the NFL. Only 5 portal guys ended up at a D1 school.
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Post by Defcord on Nov 18, 2024 18:14:24 GMT -6
Anyone think Sanders tries to get a gig in NFL with Shedeur?
Hasn’t he followed him through youth, high school and college?
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 18, 2024 18:50:57 GMT -6
Anyone think Sanders tries to get a gig in NFL with Shedeur? Hasn’t he followed him through youth, high school and college? I certainly don't think he's long for Colorado. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 19, 2024 0:13:38 GMT -6
A quick query shows 10 players drafted into the NFL. Only 5 portal guys ended up at a D1 school. Curious where you got that info. From 247 it shows 22 outgoing transfers 20 to Division 1 schools. I wouldn't say that college football has been "Deionized". I would say that Deion is simply reacting to the changing landscape. Heck, I bet Sanders would rather the landscape be like it was in the 80s and 90s- because he knows that CU can't keep up with "collectives" from Ohio State, Texas, Tex Am, etc. |
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Post by blb on Nov 19, 2024 5:34:48 GMT -6
Anyone think Sanders tries to get a gig in NFL with Shedeur? Hasn’t he followed him through youth, high school and college? Deion has been quoted more than once as saying he doesn't want to coach in the NFL. People can change their minds however. |
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