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Post by blb on Dec 4, 2021 12:59:36 GMT -6
To finish this experiment.... He has abruptly quit his coaching position at PC. In parting he stated : "“I have decided to leave Presbyterian College to pursue other football interests,” Kelley wrote on Twitter. “I am proud that we were #1 in the country in passing and #3 in the country in total offense at a school without scholarships" [ conveniently enough not mentioning the opponents didn't have scholarships either.. my emphasis..] Make your own conclusions. ...as if he didn't know that before taking the job. But his great coaching would be all the difference. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2021 12:59:55 GMT -6
To finish this experiment.... He has abruptly quit his coaching position at PC. In parting he stated : "“I have decided to leave Presbyterian College to pursue other football interests,” Kelley wrote on Twitter. “I am proud that we were #1 in the country in passing and #3 in the country in total offense at a school without scholarships" (conveniently enough not mentioning the opponents didn't have scholarships either....) Make your own conclusions. Is anybody really surprised? I have to wonder how the players and boosters at PC responded to Kelley when things took such a hard turn for the worst. Kelley will probably land a plum HS gig now where he gets back into a situation similar to what he had previously: attractive school that siphons talent from a surrounding urban area, player development mostly done for him, etc. If Rush Probst can keep getting jobs like that with all his baggage, Kelly likely can, too. If he doesn’t get into a place with all those advantages handed to him, I see him slipping into the same obscurity as the A-11 guys. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 4, 2021 13:13:47 GMT -6
To finish this experiment.... He has abruptly quit his coaching position at PC. In parting he stated : "“I have decided to leave Presbyterian College to pursue other football interests,” Kelley wrote on Twitter. “I am proud that we were #1 in the country in passing and #3 in the country in total offense at a school without scholarships" (conveniently enough not mentioning the opponents didn't have scholarships either....) Make your own conclusions. Is anybody really surprised? I have to wonder how the players and boosters at PC responded to Kelley when things took such a hard turn for the worst. Kelley will probably land a plum HS gig now where he gets back into a situation similar to what he had previously: attractive school that siphons talent from a surrounding urban area, player development mostly done for him, etc. If Rush Probst can keep getting jobs like that with all his baggage, Kelly likely can, too. If he doesn’t get into a place with all those advantages handed to him, I see him slipping into the same obscurity as the A-11 guys. Have to say I am not sure boosters really matter at PC. They were pretty much ignored/run off when the school decided to go the Non-Scholly football route. Players, are players. There could have been some dissension as things went downwards. That tends to happen everywhere, but it definitely seems possible that there was a strong Offensive locker room vs defensive locker room friction. I honestly think there were probably more issues on the staff than there were with players or boosters. |
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Post by blb on Dec 4, 2021 14:35:26 GMT -6
To finish this experiment.... He has abruptly quit his coaching position at PC. In parting he stated : "“I have decided to leave Presbyterian College to pursue other football interests,” Kelley wrote on Twitter. “I am proud that we were #1 in the country in passing and #3 in the country in total offense at a school without scholarships" [ conveniently enough not mentioning the opponents didn't have scholarships either.. my emphasis..] Make your own conclusions. One conclusion could be that he was more interested in building up "his" passing-offensive statistics than the TEAM winning games. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 4, 2021 15:14:46 GMT -6
To finish this experiment.... He has abruptly quit his coaching position at PC. In parting he stated : "“I have decided to leave Presbyterian College to pursue other football interests,” Kelley wrote on Twitter. “I am proud that we were #1 in the country in passing and #3 in the country in total offense at a school without scholarships" [ conveniently enough not mentioning the opponents didn't have scholarships either.. my emphasis..] Make your own conclusions. One conclusion could be that he was more interested in building up "his" passing-offensive statistics than the TEAM winning games. Could be. I honestly think he was just scrounging around for something to spin positively and quite frankly that is all there is. The program's two wins (and the early publicity for coach and his qb) were against teams in a different classification. Then he went 0-for at a program that had a winning record in the covid shortened spring season just 8 months ago or so. Lets face it, he was a big name HS guy with a great track record for success. He went to a different environment, and has discovered that maybe, JUST MAYBE, he wasn't the sole underlying factor for said success as @coacharnold has alluded to. That said, there could be legitimate reasons for his departure. Promises made during hiring may not have been kept. Admin might not understand what it takes to operate in non scholarship football. Or, he could just be taking his ball and going home after getting spanked professionally. |
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Post by CS on Dec 4, 2021 16:17:08 GMT -6
May not matter but his old high school team just dominated in the state title game again.
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Post by tog on Dec 4, 2021 18:00:08 GMT -6
To finish this experiment.... He has abruptly quit his coaching position at PC. In parting he stated : "“I have decided to leave Presbyterian College to pursue other football interests,” Kelley wrote on Twitter. “I am proud that we were #1 in the country in passing and #3 in the country in total offense at a school without scholarships" [ conveniently enough not mentioning the opponents didn't have scholarships either.. my emphasis..] Make your own conclusions. he is a dickhead? |
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 5, 2021 6:27:44 GMT -6
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Post by tog on Dec 5, 2021 16:10:01 GMT -6
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Post by blb on Dec 5, 2021 16:17:35 GMT -6
May not matter but his old high school team just dominated in the state title game again. So, you're saying they didn't miss him? |
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 5, 2021 16:34:48 GMT -6
Don't know the man at, have never actually heard him speak or read a quote of his so to say IDK anything about his personality is pretty accurate.
That said, the Scoop photo of him with his inner bicep tattoo confirms toy's assertion.
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Post by blb on Dec 5, 2021 16:39:19 GMT -6
Don't know the man at, have never actually heard him speak or read a quote of his so to say IDK anything about his personality is pretty accurate.
That said, the Scoop photo of him with his inner bicep tattoo confirms toy's assertion.I cannot tell from the photo what his tattoo is a depiction of nor what the text accompanying it reads. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 5, 2021 17:23:10 GMT -6
Don't know the man at, have never actually heard him speak or read a quote of his so to say IDK anything about his personality is pretty accurate.
That said, the Scoop photo of him with his inner bicep tattoo confirms toy's assertion.I cannot tell from the photo what his tattoo is a depiction of nor what the text accompanying it reads. Looks like a School insignia with roman numerals for each year his team won a title. Saw an article that confirmed that general idea. |
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Post by CS on Dec 5, 2021 18:57:22 GMT -6
I cannot tell from the photo what his tattoo is a depiction of nor what the text accompanying it reads. Looks like a School insignia with roman numerals for each year his team won a title. Saw an article that confirmed that general idea. That’s what it is |
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Post by CS on Dec 5, 2021 18:58:05 GMT -6
May not matter but his old high school team just dominated in the state title game again. So, you're saying they didn't miss him? No but they did hire from within and they did everything as he did. Just a different play caller |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 5, 2021 21:31:51 GMT -6
So, you're saying they didn't miss him? No but they did hire from within and they did everything as he did. Just a different play caller So maybe Presbyterian should hire that new guy? LOL. |
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Post by newhope on Dec 6, 2021 7:12:48 GMT -6
Here's what this comes back to in today's high school football environment (in my opinion): Lots of these guys around who work at schools where they end up playing with somebody else's players (they recruit, they don't have normal school boundary lines, etc) and then they and others think they are some magical guru. I'm sorry, but if you want to prove you are a coach, play with your own and win with your own on a level playing field. Such and such "academy" winning a bunch of championships is not evidence of your ability to coach, nor is recruiting players from nearby teams or not having a limited attendance zone.
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Post by jgordon1 on Dec 7, 2021 10:44:12 GMT -6
To finish this experiment.... He has abruptly quit his coaching position at PC. In parting he stated : "“I have decided to leave Presbyterian College to pursue other football interests,” Kelley wrote on Twitter. “I am proud that we were #1 in the country in passing and #3 in the country in total offense at a school without scholarships" [ conveniently enough not mentioning the opponents didn't have scholarships either.. my emphasis..] Make your own conclusions. Yea, I was surprised that the media didn't have much to say about his leaving...was it even on football scoop?? |
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Post by blb on Dec 7, 2021 11:10:24 GMT -6
To finish this experiment.... He has abruptly quit his coaching position at PC. In parting he stated : "“I have decided to leave Presbyterian College to pursue other football interests,” Kelley wrote on Twitter. “I am proud that we were #1 in the country in passing and #3 in the country in total offense at a school without scholarships" [ conveniently enough not mentioning the opponents didn't have scholarships either.. my emphasis..] Make your own conclusions. Yea, I was surprised that the media didn't have much to say about his leaving... was it even on football scoop??Yes it was, they had a brief article about it. footballscoop.com/news/the-kevin-kelley-experiment-at-presbyterian-has-come-to-an-end |
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Post by coachcb on Dec 7, 2021 12:27:50 GMT -6
So.... We ran a hybrid Wing-T variation at the 8-man level and racked up a rushing average of 375 yards per game. But... We won two games in two years. Do I get a tat showing those two wins?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 17:01:48 GMT -6
So.... We ran a hybrid Wing-T variation at the 8-man level and racked up a rushing average of 375 yards per game. But... We won two games in two years. Do I get a tat showing those two wins? Depends on the situation. We won 3 games, And should have probably won 3 more, but the reality is, all things being what they are, we shouldnt have won any. 2 wins in 2 years is sometimes a great coaching job. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 7, 2021 19:13:33 GMT -6
So.... We ran a hybrid Wing-T variation at the 8-man level and racked up a rushing average of 375 yards per game. But... We won two games in two years. Do I get a tat showing those two wins? Depends on the situation. We won 3 games, And should have probably won 3 more, but the reality is, all things being what they are, we shouldnt have won any. 2 wins in 2 years is sometimes a great coaching job. Wow...I haven't seen this level of lack of awareness of topic since Mountjoy was banned.... |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 7, 2021 19:50:55 GMT -6
Wow...I haven't seen this level of lack of awareness of topic since Mountjoy was banned.... not everything is black and white. If it were only that simple. Unbelievable. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 8, 2021 5:25:28 GMT -6
30 kids in the entire program. 25 of whom probably should be locked up. 20 of them cant play dead in a western, much less football. We dont have a qualifier for college, NOT 1. And most of them I would guess, in any other school district, are ineligible. Most of the kids, at some point have been caught in/or out of school slinging drugs. By rule they should not be in school (corrupt as hell). We are not allowed to team lift still. Most of the kids dont come to school. Or practice. 3 offensive linemen that started? Probably anywhere else are jv. The one kid we did have tore up knee, but he couldnt keep his hand off his mother. But, my hc makes GREAT MONEY, he teaches 1 business ed class all day, 1st period. His wife is from this area. She makes GREAT MONEY. The school board, the general education system thinks he walks on water. He has lunch with the superintendant 1x a week. He has final say over everything. He is, lacking the title, the AD. His kids are in the elite public public shool system in surrounding area. And he just bought a lake home. He is not getting that money anywhere else, EVER. He doesnt have to coach to make that money here(corrupt as hell). There is a reason my mentor retired…. and we still made the playoffs. 3 wins. What the hell are you talking about? |
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Post by blb on Dec 8, 2021 5:41:24 GMT -6
30 kids in the entire program. 25 of whom probably should be locked up. 20 of them cant play dead in a western, much less football. We dont have a qualifier for college, NOT 1. And most of them I would guess, in any other school district, are ineligible. Most of the kids, at some point have been caught in/or out of school slinging drugs. By rule they should not be in school (corrupt as hell). We are not allowed to team lift still. Most of the kids dont come to school. Or practice. 3 offensive linemen that started? Probably anywhere else are jv. The one kid we did have tore up knee, but he couldnt keep his hand off his mother. But, my hc makes GREAT MONEY, he teaches 1 business ed class all day, 1st period. His wife is from this area. She makes GREAT MONEY. The school board, the general education system thinks he walks on water. He has lunch with the superintendant 1x a week. He has final say over everything. He is, lacking the title, the AD. His kids are in the elite public public shool system in surrounding area. And he just bought a lake home. He is not getting that money anywhere else, EVER. He doesnt have to coach to make that money here(corrupt as hell). There is a reason my mentor retired…. and we still made the playoffs. 3 wins. What the hell are you talking about? Why he wants to keep teaching-coaching until he's 80 or "near death." |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 8, 2021 18:13:35 GMT -6
Why he wants to keep teaching-coaching until he's 80 or "near death." I can’t do the above for another 5 years. If I have my way I am out after this year, coaching or not. Next year it’s going to be worse. There is nothing coming in the way of players. Our best player coming back next year has 3 kids and no business being in school. And it ain’t because he has 3 kids. What the hell does any of this have to do with this thread about PC and Kevin Kelley?? |
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