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Post by blb on Aug 14, 2020 16:01:34 GMT -6
That spring time for fall sports is only an alternative if you can't play in the fall. Which is stupid because we are talking maybe a handful of schools unless we shut the whole thing down. That spring slot you posted is also alternative season. I don't know if you're talking to me (doesn't appear you read my posts or links) but Michigan has more than "a handful of schools" that play football (around 600) and they ARE shutting the whole thing down. So that spring slot has become more than an alternative. |
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Post by jg78 on Aug 14, 2020 16:07:11 GMT -6
I hate that for the kids if they don’t let them play in spring. Just crazy how different it is from state to state. I feel sorry for spring sports athletes-coaches. They've already lost one full season. One plan that was floated by MHSAA executive director the other day was end winter sports early (end of February), have football March-April-May, and spring sports May-June-July. www.mlive.com/highschoolsports/2020/08/mhsaa-executive-director-talks-possibility-of-fall-sports-in-march-april-may.htmlWould be really short (too short?) turnaround for 2021 football season, especially for kids who play spring sports into July. Whatever we do I hope it doesn’t include sports in June and July. As a football coach and AD, that would suck. |
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Post by freezeoption on Aug 14, 2020 16:11:29 GMT -6
Sorry I was talking Missouri. Same initials.
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Post by blb on Aug 14, 2020 16:28:07 GMT -6
Sorry I was talking Missouri. Same initials. Actually ours is MHSAA, Missouri's is MSHSAA. |
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Post by spark58 on Aug 14, 2020 16:37:04 GMT -6
Its about up here in GA. Atlanta is about to shut it down..counties around us are going to shut it down. Our opponent week 1 wont practice in pads until game week. We are suppose to go to some pretty big deal private schools, on so many levels that ain’t happening. And then we dont really have enough kids to play at the moment.12 kids have decided against playing.10 of them seniors. Game is all but up. we were missing 3 starters on defense. Michigan just shut it down. |
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Post by blb on Aug 14, 2020 16:42:12 GMT -6
Michigan just shut it down. Posted over an hour ago. |
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Post by freezeoption on Aug 14, 2020 17:40:57 GMT -6
Yes one letter off which to tell you thet truth I never think of them
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Post by SetHut on Aug 14, 2020 21:35:51 GMT -6
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Post by famar on Aug 18, 2020 19:46:12 GMT -6
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Post by marzahl on Aug 19, 2020 8:49:17 GMT -6
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Post by famar on Aug 19, 2020 18:26:13 GMT -6
We are exactly the same up in New Hampshire. The NJSIAA allowed Phase 1 workouts to begin July 13. A few schools started that day and have been working out ever since. Others started a week or two after that. At the school I'm at, we were barred from any in person contact with our players until September 14. Compounding that is the fact that we're a new staff so the first practice on September 14 will be the first time we see our kids in person, and we have a scrimmage September 25 and then a game October 2. |
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Post by marzahl on Aug 20, 2020 20:25:29 GMT -6
We are exactly the same up in New Hampshire. The NJSIAA allowed Phase 1 workouts to begin July 13. A few schools started that day and have been working out ever since. Others started a week or two after that. At the school I'm at, we were barred from any in person contact with our players until September 14. Compounding that is the fact that we're a new staff so the first practice on September 14 will be the first time we see our kids in person, and we have a scrimmage September 25 and then a game October 2. Dang! Thats tough man. We've been conditioning since early July with 7 on 7 and linemen work taking place. First game September 25th. How are you planning to install with such little time? Thats hard. |
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Post by RunThePistol on Aug 21, 2020 7:45:02 GMT -6
Tennessee had our first games last night... no issues... My school plays tonight... hopefully everything goes off without a hitch.
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Post by famar on Aug 21, 2020 17:22:38 GMT -6
The NJSIAA allowed Phase 1 workouts to begin July 13. A few schools started that day and have been working out ever since. Others started a week or two after that. At the school I'm at, we were barred from any in person contact with our players until September 14. Compounding that is the fact that we're a new staff so the first practice on September 14 will be the first time we see our kids in person, and we have a scrimmage September 25 and then a game October 2. Dang! Thats tough man. We've been conditioning since early July with 7 on 7 and linemen work taking place. First game September 25th. How are you planning to install with such little time? Thats hard. We've been doing Zoom Install meetings and sending out clips on Hudl since May, it obviously isn't ideal but it's the only choice we have. About 8 or 9 of our players have been going to the feeder program's practices and working together for the past 3 weeks. As far as install goes, we don't plan on having a ton in for week 1, and in reality with a shortened season, we might get 60% of our offense effectively installed this year. |
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Post by carookie on Aug 21, 2020 18:59:52 GMT -6
My wife just saw a FB post from an old colleague of hers showing her son is playing in a youth game right now (I think he's 11 or 12). This despite the fact that our state and county have a ban on such competitions. So I guess there are some people playing as we speak.
I'd be interested to see what comes of it.
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Post by agap on Aug 21, 2020 22:35:37 GMT -6
Dang! Thats tough man. We've been conditioning since early July with 7 on 7 and linemen work taking place. First game September 25th. How are you planning to install with such little time? Thats hard. We've been doing Zoom Install meetings and sending out clips on Hudl since May, it obviously isn't ideal but it's the only choice we have. About 8 or 9 of our players have been going to the feeder program's practices and working together for the past 3 weeks. As far as install goes, we don't plan on having a ton in for week 1, and in reality with a shortened season, we might get 60% of our offense effectively installed this year. That's the amount of time we have to install schemes every season. That's not counting the few things we're allowed to do over the summer in June and July. Once we start practice though, we have two weeks before our scrimmage and another week before the first game. |
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Post by someguy on Aug 22, 2020 16:03:30 GMT -6
My wife just saw a FB post from an old colleague of hers showing her son is playing in a youth game right now (I think he's 11 or 12). This despite the fact that our state and county have a ban on such competitions. So I guess there are some people playing as we speak. I'd be interested to see what comes of it. That's how it is here, too. Places with middle school ball aren't going. Places with a non-school affiliated system for 7th-8th graders are going full speed ahead. |
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Post by Defcord on Aug 23, 2020 6:03:19 GMT -6
My wife just saw a FB post from an old colleague of hers showing her son is playing in a youth game right now (I think he's 11 or 12). This despite the fact that our state and county have a ban on such competitions. So I guess there are some people playing as we speak. I'd be interested to see what comes of it. Travel baseball has been booming in our area for months. I live in a small town and our Rec fields have been rented out and packed every weekend when there has been good weather. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 23, 2020 9:27:05 GMT -6
My wife just saw a FB post from an old colleague of hers showing her son is playing in a youth game right now (I think he's 11 or 12). This despite the fact that our state and county have a ban on such competitions. So I guess there are some people playing as we speak. I'd be interested to see what comes of it. Travel baseball has been booming in our area for months. I live in a small town and our Rec fields have been rented out and packed every weekend when there has been good weather. I actually spoke with an attorney (general counsel for the Largest Health Care system/network in Louisiana) about this and the concept of liability. I was genuinely surprised at the answer. My mindset was that it would seem absurd to think that someone would be able to successfully able to sue over Covid 19. After all, nobody would ever consider a lawsuit if they contracted the flu and suffered damages/died. It just isn't part of the social norm. She enlightened me that while that may be my ethical position, it was not the legal one. The attny stated that in the legal realm, using the "flu" is a bad comparison, and it is much better to use Tuberculosis as a comparative disease. In the attny's opinion, there have been multiple examples of credible best practices with regards to this disease such that if someone was not practicing them, there definitely would be exposure and legal liability to any organization with deep pockets. Interestingly enough, I learned that in the eyes of the law, one wouldn't have to be able to "prove" where they contracted the disease. So a store not enforcing safety mandates (masks, distancing etc) could become an easy target for lawsuits. Bringing this back to the realm of school based sports- school districts have deep pockets, travel ball really doesn't |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2020 11:58:10 GMT -6
Travel baseball has been booming in our area for months. I live in a small town and our Rec fields have been rented out and packed every weekend when there has been good weather. I actually spoke with an attorney (general counsel for the Largest Health Care system/network in Louisiana) about this and the concept of liability. I was genuinely surprised at the answer. My mindset was that it would seem absurd to think that someone would be able to successfully able to sue over Covid 19. After all, nobody would ever consider a lawsuit if they contracted the flu and suffered damages/died. It just isn't part of the social norm. She enlightened me that while that may be my ethical position, it was not the legal one. The attny stated that in the legal realm, using the "flu" is a bad comparison, and it is much better to use Tuberculosis as a comparative disease. In the attny's opinion, there have been multiple examples of credible best practices with regards to this disease such that if someone was not practicing them, there definitely would be exposure and legal liability to any organization with deep pockets. Interestingly enough, I learned that in the eyes of the law, one wouldn't have to be able to "prove" where they contracted the disease. So a store not enforcing safety mandates (masks, distancing etc) could become an easy target for lawsuits. Bringing this back to the realm of school based sports- school districts have deep pockets, travel ball really doesn't lawyers are lined up ready to sue. People have sued for a whole lot less. I said it b4, I’ll say it again, if a player or coach dies in football and it’s Covid, concussions will never happened relative to the spit storm coming for football. |
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Post by Defcord on Aug 23, 2020 17:01:51 GMT -6
Travel baseball has been booming in our area for months. I live in a small town and our Rec fields have been rented out and packed every weekend when there has been good weather. I actually spoke with an attorney (general counsel for the Largest Health Care system/network in Louisiana) about this and the concept of liability. I was genuinely surprised at the answer. My mindset was that it would seem absurd to think that someone would be able to successfully able to sue over Covid 19. After all, nobody would ever consider a lawsuit if they contracted the flu and suffered damages/died. It just isn't part of the social norm. She enlightened me that while that may be my ethical position, it was not the legal one. The attny stated that in the legal realm, using the "flu" is a bad comparison, and it is much better to use Tuberculosis as a comparative disease. In the attny's opinion, there have been multiple examples of credible best practices with regards to this disease such that if someone was not practicing them, there definitely would be exposure and legal liability to any organization with deep pockets. Interestingly enough, I learned that in the eyes of the law, one wouldn't have to be able to "prove" where they contracted the disease. So a store not enforcing safety mandates (masks, distancing etc) could become an easy target for lawsuits. Bringing this back to the realm of school based sports- school districts have deep pockets, travel ball really doesn't Makes sense. I think there are state laws being passed to address some of this. On every retail store in my area in Georgia there is a sign that says something along the lines of state law doesn’t hold the store liable for any potential contraction of the virus and to avoid entering if one feels unsafe. My wife definitely got covid at school. I can’t imagine suing though. Maybe 20 years from now there will be a 2 am commercial for a class action suit from shady lawyer in Florida and we can get enough to have a nice dinner. |
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Post by larrymoe on Aug 23, 2020 17:07:05 GMT -6
Travel baseball has been booming in our area for months. I live in a small town and our Rec fields have been rented out and packed every weekend when there has been good weather. I actually spoke with an attorney (general counsel for the Largest Health Care system/network in Louisiana) about this and the concept of liability. I was genuinely surprised at the answer. My mindset was that it would seem absurd to think that someone would be able to successfully able to sue over Covid 19. After all, nobody would ever consider a lawsuit if they contracted the flu and suffered damages/died. It just isn't part of the social norm. She enlightened me that while that may be my ethical position, it was not the legal one. The attny stated that in the legal realm, using the "flu" is a bad comparison, and it is much better to use Tuberculosis as a comparative disease. In the attny's opinion, there have been multiple examples of credible best practices with regards to this disease such that if someone was not practicing them, there definitely would be exposure and legal liability to any organization with deep pockets. Interestingly enough, I learned that in the eyes of the law, one wouldn't have to be able to "prove" where they contracted the disease. So a store not enforcing safety mandates (masks, distancing etc) could become an easy target for lawsuits. Bringing this back to the realm of school based sports- school districts have deep pockets, travel ball really doesn't And this is why we're screwed. |
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Post by blb on Sept 3, 2020 13:50:40 GMT -6
Michigan just reinstated fall football, first games to be weekend of September 18 (Week Four of schedule).
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Post by waddles52 on Sept 5, 2020 5:58:58 GMT -6
Washington state.
1st practice: February 17th.
First game: March 5th
6 game regular season.
Committee will choose 8 teams for the playoffs.
My understanding is that teams that don't make the playoffs will be able to find games and keep playing if they want. There's a two-week overlap with spring sports at the end, so I'm not sure how many will take advantage of that.
I'm 60/40 that we'll actually play even in February. A lot of "erring on the side of caution" here.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 5, 2020 10:08:09 GMT -6
Washington state. 1st practice: February 17th. First game: March 5th 6 game regular season. Committee will choose 8 teams for the playoffs. My understanding is that teams that don't make the playoffs will be able to find games and keep playing if they want. There's a two-week overlap with spring sports at the end, so I'm not sure how many will take advantage of that. I'm 60/40 that we'll actually play even in February. A lot of "erring on the side of caution" here. Louisiana's association has received a great deal of scrutiny and backlash, particularly given that a great deal of the southeast, including adjacent states TX and MS are actually playing games. Even the state legislature got involved, resulting in the association giving a firm start date as opposed to waiting on the Governor. However, the Mayor of New Orleans seems to disagree and has insinuated that she will not allow it (not sure how any of this goes legally or jurisdictionally at this point). One NOLA private school coach was interviewed and regarding the mayor's comments he said that he is already looking into arrangements to practice and play in neighboring municipalities. |
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