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Post by NC1974 on Dec 17, 2008 8:18:39 GMT -6
GAC866,
I couldn't agree more. We drill into our OL during team time that they should always be the ones to pick the rb or wr off the ground after a tackle. It's a pride thing, and a protective type of thing....the big guys looking out for the little guys. it helped during team time to move the ball up and down the field to simulate this.
Also, during indy time, each OL drill ends with a finish. They run their feet until 1st whistle, then on the 1st whistle, the defensive guy will simulate shedding a block and pursuing the ball carrier, the ol has to accelerate into the defender and either pancake him or keep him covered up.
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Post by NC1974 on Dec 16, 2008 21:04:30 GMT -6
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Post by NC1974 on Dec 15, 2008 19:00:18 GMT -6
The Inner GAme of Tennis....I have not read it but was just reading that Pete Carroll is a big fan....he has even given as a gift to some of his players that struggled.
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Post by NC1974 on Nov 25, 2008 9:11:41 GMT -6
GAcoach,
I'm in a similar boat as you. I'v got a 5 yr old. SOme of the kids in the neighborhood are already playing full pads at 5. My gut tells me this is too young and many of these kids will get burnt out well before high school. Add to that a few stories I've heard about the coaches...yelling, screaming. One coach head-butted one of his players(kid had helmet on) and split his forehead(coach's forehead). I personally think full pads football can wait until 6th grade or so. Anyways, just my opinion.
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Post by NC1974 on Nov 21, 2008 14:45:38 GMT -6
LOW is important but it's not the only factor. We had an undersized OL he last coupld of years and I think the thing that helped us the most was finishing blocks. This was something we worked constantly. It's both a skill(proper technique) and an attitude. We were a zone team. We weren't always blowing guys off the ball, but we always had bodies on bodies until the whistle.
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Post by NC1974 on Nov 21, 2008 14:32:23 GMT -6
I think it depends on your offense and what your trying to do. Do you need athletic tackles that can protect the QB on 5 step drops? Are you an option team that double teams and angle blocks? When I was in high school, we were primarily an off tackle, or power team. our coach wanted big strong tackles to base block or down block, quick guards who could pull, and a center who could snap and back block. Now if you're a spread team, you probably have different criteria. But for what it's worth, Rick Trickett, WVU's, old OL coach mentioned these criteria at a clinic: - You center should be your best lineman. He has to reach a shade, work up to backers, etc. He's big on wrestlers because of their toughness and ability to use leverage. He's not big on the height thing. Thinks shorter guys have a leverage advantage.
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Post by NC1974 on Oct 27, 2008 9:38:18 GMT -6
Here is how we do it. At first i didn't like it but now think it is the easiest for the kids to learn.
Center= 0 head up, Shade strong, Shade weak Guard=1 inside shade, 2head up, 3 outside shade Tackle=4 inside shade, 5 head up, 6 outside shade Tight End=7 inside shade, 8 head up, 9 outside shade
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Post by NC1974 on Oct 17, 2008 12:03:46 GMT -6
I've never coached youth, but I wouldn't worry as much about emotion as I would about coaching up technique and teaching them to play fast. I mean, I think alot of 11 yr olds are not mature enough to have a serious emotional stake in the game. I remember kind of faking emotion as an 11 yr old just to please my coach. But if you focus on technique and tempo and finishing etc., I think kids become more confident and therefore play better.
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Post by NC1974 on Aug 24, 2008 17:41:55 GMT -6
Thanks guys,
These are the kind of responses I'm looking for. What do you think about the possibilities of burnout or being turned off by the intensity and contact before one is mature enough to appreciate it?
Thanks, FCC74
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Post by NC1974 on Aug 24, 2008 11:39:10 GMT -6
When is the ideal age to start your kid in full contact football? And Why?
Just curious. I've got a boy who will be eligible to play next year. 6 yrs old, but I personally feel that's way too young. Any thoughts.
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Post by NC1974 on Aug 13, 2008 16:51:44 GMT -6
While I hear where DCOHIO is coming from, I believe that part of being tough or a good ball player is having mental discipline. I tend to tell my guys, if it's not acceptable on Friday night in front of the refs, then it's not acceptable in practice. Practice how you're going to play. To me, the success of the team comes before an individual's impulses. I mean, if I'm a DL and I get my butt handed to me on a play, and then I take a swing at a guy to preserve my pride, well I just screwed my team twice. Once by getting beaten, and then by being impulsive. All of this being said, fights are going to happen. I usually try to to commend the kids on their passion and intensity, but re-emphasize the mental aspect of toughness. Last thought, while I know the "street fight" metaphor is often used for football, I can't believe many people truly buy into it. If that's all it is, why practice 5 days a week for one game, when you can go to the local movie theater and pick fights with the other thugs?
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Post by NC1974 on May 15, 2008 8:02:17 GMT -6
I think this is one of those "letter of the law vs intent of the law". Yes, the team would have been perfectly within their rights to not help her....but if I was the coach and I TOLD my kids NOT to help her...I can tell you this...I would not sleep well that night...my gut would tell me that even though I followed the rules, something would not have been right.
Incidentally, here are a couple of similar - not the exact same - cases from the past.
• In a state championship basketball game in Colorado, Agate was playing Stratton. Agate because of mix-up over keys could not dress in time. The referees called a technical foul, allowing Stratton to begin the game with two free throws. The Stratton coach, however, told his player to miss the shots.
• Consider the case of a basketball team in Alabama a few years ago that won the state championship -- the first ever for the school. A month or so later, the coach found that he had unknowingly used an ineligible player. No one else knew of the problem. Moreover, the player in question was in the game only a minute or two and had not scored. The coach notified the state high school activities association and, as a result, the only state championship in the school’s history was forfeited.
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Post by NC1974 on Nov 11, 2007 9:37:45 GMT -6
One more thing, the more I lok at those royal videos, often times when the tackler makes contact, he has a flexed spine which definitely is not efficient or safe.
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Post by NC1974 on Nov 11, 2007 9:33:40 GMT -6
Brophy and others, The biggest difference I see between chest plate and old school tackling is that in old school, the aiming pint is so low that often times the tacklers hips are higher than shoulders so they lose that line of force that comes form squats and cleans etc. The old school, reminds me more of how I was taught to tackle in rugby(other than the head across in front part)....low and wrap the legs. Personally, I feel chest plate is much more efficient in terms of body mechanics, and safer for football.
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Post by NC1974 on Mar 13, 2008 6:26:01 GMT -6
Bears' Doug Plank wore number 46. I know that's the origin. Not sure what made him so special that his jersey number was honored with the distinction.
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Post by NC1974 on Apr 7, 2008 20:38:31 GMT -6
As I understand it: 1. Spread the defense - make them take guys out of the box to open up the run 2. If they leave a receiver uncovered, throw bubble or some equivalent. 3. 6 or less in the box=even numbers to run the ball(counting qb as a blocker, holding the backside end with the read) 4. If they commit to stopping the run, should open up some things in the passing game 5. Helps to have a QB who can run so even with i back you have two running threats.
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Post by NC1974 on Aug 21, 2006 20:49:45 GMT -6
Hey coaches,
I'm just doing a survey of how much time you guys expect of your kids during the season. Ours is roughly as follows....sometimes I wonder if it's too much. Just looking for thoughts. Monday - 3:00 - 7:00 Includes practice and opponent films Tuesday - 3:00 - 7:00 Practice and practice Film Wednesday - 3:00 - 7:00 Practice and Practice Film Thursday - 3:00 - 5:30 Walk Thru Friday - Game Saturday - 8:00- 10:00 GAme film, running
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Post by NC1974 on Nov 6, 2007 9:03:17 GMT -6
Dcohio and others,
What are your thoughts on an assistant coach who meets all commitments and responsibilities from June -end of season but then chooses not to participate(or at least participate regularly) in the off season i.e. weightroom, conditioning. I guess my question is is there a place for someone like this in a program or has coaching high school football become a year round job for all assistant coaches? The reason I ask is because I am personally finding myself on the fence in this situation. I meet any and all expectations from summer camp through the season(as I konow all of you do) but I have trouble justifiying 3-5 days a week in the weightroom during the offseason. Not that I don't like being with the kids, but I feel the off season is time for me to catch up on duties as a father and husband. I guess in the end, I still view football as a fall sport and I cosider myself a fall coach. Anyways, any thoughts. Is there a place for a "fall coach" or is time for me to think about getting out? p.s. I have no probelm with 2-3 clinics that we go to or monthly meetings. I'm talking more about the expectation of 3-4 days a week in the weightroom from Nov.-June.
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Post by NC1974 on Nov 5, 2007 18:47:59 GMT -6
Hi coaches,
Just curious to hear what some HC's expectations are for their coaches. i.e. weightroom, meetings, etc.
Thanks, FCC
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Post by NC1974 on Dec 5, 2007 18:31:04 GMT -6
You've probably already thought of this, but if it's a big problem, I would ask myself why is he at center as opposed to guard or tackle. Is one of your other linemen a better snapper?
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Post by NC1974 on Feb 6, 2008 19:18:28 GMT -6
I can't claim to know everything about him but I'll pick two that I do know...
1. there was a point in his career where he regularly disrespected the refs and collected a bunch of Technical fouls. To me this is a lack of self-control and discipline...that is not the kind of example I would want set for my players 2. He was known to verbally, and on occassion physically intimidat and humiliate his players...again, poor role model.
Now we can talk all we want about old school and new school but to me there has always been a right way and wrong way to treat people and act. HE was a poor role model in both these categories. p.s. not that anyone has suggested this, but it seems to me that ther are those that belive that you have to be an A$$hole to teach toughness and competitiveness. I couldn't disagree more. I think a great coamparison in this case would be Knight and one of his former assistants, Coach K from Duke. Both highly successful, highly demanding, but in my humble opinion there is no question which one I would want my son to play for --- because he does it the right way.
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Post by NC1974 on Dec 11, 2007 19:40:07 GMT -6
Great topic Brophy. I can really get philosophical on this one if I don't catch myself. I am very anal about coaching proper steps, aiming points, hand placent, etc. Like you said, this makes me feel good and in control as a coach. But I definitely think there is something to the idea of putting more respinsibility in the kids hands. I mean when you think about it, who says that we know the BEST way. If you look at football historically, innovators are what keep the game progressing. Who knows...maybe guys like me who are very anal actually stifle innovation. I'm not saying I'm going to change any times soon, but interesting to think about.
Along those same lines, I sometimes wonder if we coaches have assumed too much control when it comes to play calling and game planning. You hear about guys like Unitas being the field general. I wonder how that would play out if we stepped back and gave the players more control and decison making when it come to things like this. Could be interesting.
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Post by NC1974 on Dec 12, 2007 15:30:50 GMT -6
We have two base run schemes that can accomidate a number of different plays ZONE Scheme - inside zone, outside zone, speed option, sweep DOWN - Power, Counter Trey, Speed Option
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Post by NC1974 on Feb 27, 2008 21:45:37 GMT -6
I for our OL but I would think it would work with DL. Each play is worth 3 pts: Task - Did you block the right man, area, etc.? Was your assignemnet correct? Technique - did you stay low, wide base etc Toughness - Did you go to the whistle? IF you fell, did you get back up?
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Post by NC1974 on Jan 25, 2008 21:26:09 GMT -6
One of the biggest keyes that I overlooked for many years regardless of 2pt or 3pt is this: Knock their knees slightly i.e. their knees should be inside their feet. This places the weight on the inside halves of their feet which gives them much more leverage for that first step.
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Post by NC1974 on Mar 23, 2008 20:34:41 GMT -6
Myopinion:
- I have alot of repect for these guys. They are out doing something for the love of the game. They are not doing it for a scholarship. They are not doing it for money. Thi is as about as pure as sport gets. I don' t understand those who say "those guys should know when to let it go" My thoughts are each individual should let it go when it is right for them. If you feel you're rteady hang them up after high school or college, great. But if you still love to play at 30 yrs old, and you're doing it because you love it...God bless you.
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Post by NC1974 on Dec 14, 2007 22:17:16 GMT -6
The only guys I worry about are the OL and DL. Theye are the ones, even in high school, who are so concerned about putting on weight AND many don't seem to care or no the difference between good weight and bad weight. Unfortunately, I think the pro game has become so specialized that they have changed O-linemen into something other than athletes. Now I know they ARE athletic, but the weight gain makes them good at only a very narrow set of skills. I guess I still cling to a more "idealized" view of an athlete who is well rounded and can do a number of things, and play a number of sports well. In some ways I miss the old days of Iron man football where your OL were also LBS or DEs. They had to be able to block yes, but they also had to be able to cover TE's, so they had to be all around more athletic. Personally, I coach high school OL, and I find myself discouraging kids from worrying about weight gain. Rather, be strong, be quick, be in shape, be athletic.
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Post by NC1974 on Dec 13, 2006 9:36:16 GMT -6
Hey guys, what software would you guys recommend buying to be able to draw up Xs and Os for playbooks and such? How much $ am I looking at?
Secondly, how many of you just use PPT to make you playbooks? How long does that take? Do you use it in conjunction with a football software or by itself?
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Post by NC1974 on Mar 30, 2006 19:28:39 GMT -6
Firebird and others. I am impressed with the PPT playbooks. Waht programs do you need to do that?
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HAKA
Dec 8, 2007 22:14:49 GMT -6
Post by NC1974 on Dec 8, 2007 22:14:49 GMT -6
Phantom,
Interesting note about the sportsmanship thing, when the NZ All Blacks used to this, they would face their fans. It was not meant to be projected towards their opponents. But recentlly, with the professionalization and commercialization or rugby, the All Blacks started facing their opponents, some would suggest to make it more dramatic and therfore more marketable. So I guess my point is if schools who use this use it in the traditional way(facing their fans) it probably wouldn't be a sportsmanship issue.
FCC
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