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Post by seabass on Feb 10, 2017 16:39:20 GMT -6
The Track team has had parents coaching it. I know that two of the last 4 Head Coaches we have had haven't ever coached High School Football before. I can't say for a fact about the other two. We can't get a teacher coach to come because there are no teacher spots open. So you can't draw in a coach that would need to move. The school has let the Head Coach do what he wants and guess what we have got. School lets out at 3pm football players are told they should left until the coaches show up at 5pm. Guess who watches over them NO one, so most go home, go hang out at a stores, or goof off till the coaches show up. We have one pep rally each year for home coming. Coaches don't recruit with in the school because they don't get there till 5pm. There isn't and hasn't been no real structure to the program for the past 8 years, because of the people who have taken the HC job. It has came down to Aug with no coach so they just take anyone. That said what coach is going to move to a school and coach a team for only $5700 a year and no teaching job. Each time a coach quits they wait all the way not to the wire hoping a teaching job opens up. At that point they take who ever so that the boys still get to play football. After seeing this happen over and over again for the past 8 years has made me think that I may need to do something my self because what has been going on isn't working. The people/coaches that have taken the job isn't doing anything on the list and the school has just let them do what they want because that is all they can get for now. Sounds like you might have talked yourself into applying. No special scheme is going to fix all of that but a person might be able to.
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Post by seabass on Feb 10, 2017 16:26:12 GMT -6
I have that type brain too but only when it comes to star wars and strength/conditioning. Velociraptor! John Stamos! Better Homes and Gardening!
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Post by seabass on Feb 10, 2017 15:09:12 GMT -6
Why do any of you give a flying {censored} what they want out of their coach? It's their job, they can require whatever they want. That is a fact and should be respected. Everyone should have the right to fail. Some people just don't even know what they don't know and that can be hard to watch, especially as a coach.
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Post by seabass on Feb 10, 2017 11:56:37 GMT -6
@sconnieoc-I wasn't trying to be a dick and I picked up on your anti-pu$$ification vibe as well. I may have misinterpreted what you meant when you said this group of coaches was looking to "wean" parents off of youth tackle football. All I heard was a group of people were deciding what is best for everybody else (maybe just themselves).
I didn't know that there were areas around the country that had no flag option. We have a huge flag football league in our area. Only time will tell but a vast majority of those kids playing flag football in my area won't play HS football...IMO.
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Post by seabass on Feb 10, 2017 11:43:13 GMT -6
@sconnieoc- I just want to make sure I understand you correctly... you are saying that a group of HS coaches got together and determined that they have the right to dictate to the parents of their community that their kids are not suited to play football prior to the 7th grade? Not at all.. I said that they are looking into proposing to their communities that they don't tackle until 7th grade. I said nothing about dictating. You're exaggerating the point that I was making They are looking for answers for their dwindling varsity numbers, and the consensus was (again, I wasn't there, this is my friend telling me this) that coaches are getting less kids to freshman/jv much less to varsity, and they're willing to try anything. They're willing to try anything.. even if it means creating a separate league for flag, and letting kids choose. Which I would be fine with.. just give kids options.. give parents options... turn less kids away early. I would also like to make the point that I am as pro-football, anti-pu$$ification of this country as it gets. As I stated earlier, I just don't want to see our game going in a bad direction, because we were too stubborn to let kids play flag football as 4th graders.
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Post by seabass on Feb 9, 2017 17:00:29 GMT -6
I played basketball at a JC almost 25 years ago and they gave scholarships (OR) but that was an eternity ago.
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Post by seabass on Feb 9, 2017 16:43:59 GMT -6
@sconnieoc- I just want to make sure I understand you correctly... you are saying that a group of HS coaches got together and determined that they have the right to dictate to the parents of their community that their kids are not suited to play football prior to the 7th grade?
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Post by seabass on Feb 9, 2017 13:14:53 GMT -6
Regardless of where you stand on this issue, the last thing we need is another "law" about something.
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Post by seabass on Feb 8, 2017 13:32:32 GMT -6
I have coached all 3 of the major sports at some point over the last 20 years.There is some really important stuff that football sets the stage to teach that the other sports just don't lend themselves to teaching as easily...IMO
Now that assumes you are aware of those things and have the intent to teach them. I know lots of coaches don't but that's not unique to youth coaches.
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Post by seabass on Feb 7, 2017 16:16:09 GMT -6
do these kids hit hard enough for this to be an issue? I don't think that matters. This is coming from the same state that banned soda and "other sugary drinks" over a certain size.
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Post by seabass on Feb 7, 2017 0:51:12 GMT -6
I think the decision for my kids to play or not play a sport should be my decision as a parent. Novel idea; I know!
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Post by seabass on Jan 24, 2017 14:34:37 GMT -6
Isn't there an old saying, "the teacher often learns more than the student"?
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Post by seabass on Sept 8, 2016 22:32:49 GMT -6
I play in a weight limit league. It doesn't limit the weight of the ball carrier but it does limit weight by age. All of these weight limit arguments are about perception and not reality. All kids should just play football against other kids their age regardless of weight and no position should be determined by size. Anybody ever protest the idea of a tiny lineman? If the little kid can't tackle the big kid then why is the big kid allowed to tackle the little kid?
It's not about safety....it's about perceived fairness. I think tall youth basketball players shouldn't be allowed to shoot the ball....only rebound.
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Post by seabass on Aug 30, 2016 15:14:42 GMT -6
I took mostly special ED classes in school.
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Post by seabass on Aug 29, 2016 21:19:14 GMT -6
I'm lost....you came to a youth board to ask about 7th/8th grade football and forgot you were visiting a youth board?
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Post by seabass on Aug 10, 2016 15:49:02 GMT -6
I live in a county of roughly 500k. A little over half of that population lives in one city of about 300k. I coach in a Pop Warner league that has 6 associations (clubs). I'm not certain about the other associations but we went from 5 teams and 98 kids spread across 4 teams down to 54 kids spread across 3 teams. I have to believe the entire league is down because I got my schedule and there are only 4 teams in my division.
The other side of my state (Seattle/Vancouver) has the big population. Pop Warner isn't as big in that area per capita but they are bigger than us. We had both Leagues from that area call our League last week trying to schedule games with us because they are all down as well.
I feel like there has been an attack on youth football. At some point we are all going to have to go on the offensive and launch our own campaigns FOR youth football.
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Post by seabass on Feb 4, 2016 14:58:11 GMT -6
We have been successful in convincing our guys that the only way they could possibly become good players (individually) is to compete like crazy every chance they get. In practice we turn everything we can into a competition. We always recognize the winners but we also recognize the guys that we can tell are competing regardless of the outcome. Most kids equate competing with winning. We want to recognize the value of the competing part as much as the winning part. You can compete without winning. We don't give them anything. We just recognize them in front of their teammates. Most kids like to recognized....especially when it comes from someone they respect.
The team adopts this attitude and most kids don't want to be "left out" so they fall in line. We get great effort in practice. The game effort takes care of its self. We try not to use the word effort because effort sounds like work. Competing sounds like fun because most of them equate competing to winning even though we try to define the two as separate. We also give kids a chance to recognize their teammates in our practice breakdown. It's one thing to be recognized by a coach but its cooler to be recognized by a teammate.
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Post by seabass on Jan 26, 2016 15:23:53 GMT -6
If everybody else in the conference has twice as many players as this school then they definitely have a culture issue. There may be other issues as well but bad culture is probably at the top of the list. The opportunity in that problem is that it can be impacted by good leadership. It's a process though...
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Post by seabass on Jan 19, 2016 15:39:36 GMT -6
Maybe a little off topic but how many of you guys are implementing the jerk in your programming? Everybody seems to be cleaning but I rarely hear anybody mention the second part of the lift.
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Post by seabass on Jan 19, 2016 13:36:40 GMT -6
Long time lurker, first time contributor (I use that term contributor lightly). I'm just a youth coach and I have ZERO experience with building or maintaining a strength and conditioning program. I do have friends that are in that position and I'm a gym rat so we discuss the subject a lot. I also end up training with a handful of HS athletes every summer.
Over the last 6 years I have trained with a bunch of kids (mostly football and Lacrosse players). If they stick around longer than a few weeks I typically end up asking them how they ended up in our gym. My follow-up question is always, "what is your team doing and why aren't you training with them?"
Based on the feedback from those kids my conclusion is kids don't train with their own team for 1 or 2 of a few reasons:
1- They are selfish or think they are "special" 2- Their school's program stinks 3- Their coach has done a poor job of creating a culture that makes them want to train with their team. Poor atmosphere, poor attendance by teammates etc..
#1 and #3 are the most common.
With the right coaching, attitude and money a kid can get better in the offseason without the assistance of his teammates or HS coaches. I don't know if that makes the team better though. My boys won't have a choice. They WILL train with their team. If I see deficiencies in the program then we will fix those on our own.
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Post by seabass on Jan 5, 2016 17:16:29 GMT -6
Hello,
I'm new here. I coach 7th and 8th grade football in Washington State. I have only been coaching football for 4 years. I didn't really even play much football (2 years). I was a basketball player in HS and had a short college career. I have been coaching AAU basketball off and on for 20 years. I came by coaching football quite accidentally after my 2 knuckle-head boys started playing. There are obviously a ton of terrible youth coaches out there...in every sport.....that's how I came to coach football. I say that as a joke but its not that funny. I'm desperately trying not to be one of those guys.
It took me about 5 minutes of coaching football to become a full blown junky. I am currently a HC and spend most of my time coaching O-line. I am still learning how to coach those guys. I never played the position so I have 0 experience to fall back on. I chose to coach O-line because as the HC I'm ultimately responsible for our teams success and I believe that success or failure is largely dependent on good line play. I probably won't have much to contribute as I have very little experience but I'm hoping to learn as much as I can. My boys are almost done playing youth ball and I have no intentions of hanging it up when they move on to HS. I have no idea where or what I will coach only that I will be coaching somewhere.
Josh
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