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Post by coachcb on Nov 1, 2022 7:19:58 GMT -6
Amen....
I also need to be better at teaching the kids to handle the bad breaks better. I didn't program enough situational or competitive drills into the practice schedule this year and it showed. We had several close games turn into lopsided affairs because the kids fell apart when the breaks didn't go our way.
Experienced the same thing coach. What have you done in the past to work on these situations in practice? Short yardage/goal line offense and defense go a long way. We didn't have the numbers to go with a reasonable full scout team this year so we didn't rep these enough. We did some half-line but I got spooky because it screwed up our backside pursuit on defense. I just need to be more creative with those drills. All and all, we just needed more pressure and competition in practice.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 31, 2022 12:25:03 GMT -6
On the flip side of the coin, Fat slob coaches bother me as much as many "fitness guru" coaches.
"We need to get the kids on a clean bulking diet." "They're teenagers, they just need to eat." "Nah, bruh, they'll just get fat." "You convince a 16 year old to eat chicken breasts and brown rice all day long. Tell me how that goes."
"My Crossfit group does sprinter burpees, we need to include them." "WTF is a sprinter burpee??" -Demonstrates a goofy, Cirque Du Soleil gymnastic crap- "Nah, we'll just do some extra squats."
Who was the guy on here who said most people didn't have the discipline to be as "shredded" as him while he complained about the Jr High volleyball coach? I can't remember.... But I don't think they've been back after the beating they took for that post.
As an aside, what I posted above is the gist of two conversations I've had with two different "fit" coaches.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 31, 2022 11:26:45 GMT -6
if your going to be bothered by #1, you better be in NFL DB shape. Nah, just be able to walk and talk without needing an oxygen tank between steps. And if you can't do that, don't dispense fitness tips to anyone.
On the flip side of the coin, Fat slob coaches bother me as much as many "fitness guru" coaches.
"We need to get the kids on a clean bulking diet." "They're teenagers, they just need to eat." "Nah, bruh, they'll just get fat." "You convince a 16 year old to eat chicken breasts and brown rice all day long. Tell me how that goes."
"My Crossfit group does sprinter burpees, we need to include them." "WTF is a sprinter burpee??" -Demonstrates a goofy, Cirque Du Soleil gymnastic crap- "Nah, we'll just do some extra squats."
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Post by coachcb on Oct 25, 2022 12:23:30 GMT -6
More games are lost than won...especially in football. Want to win more games...stop doing stupid stuff to lose them....as in the post by coachcb would entail.
Yep... We had several close games turn into lopsided blowouts because the kids couldn't bounce back from bad breaks. We were tied 8-8 at halftime and playing well on both sides of the ball. We got the kickoff, started marching and fumbled a snap. They recovered and scored quickly with a short field. We went from looking like a competitive football team to a group of beaten dogs. We lost the game 30-8. We were a completely different football team.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 25, 2022 11:25:39 GMT -6
For me, each season ends with a confirmation of what I already know. If we block and tackle better than the other guy...and the "breaks" are even...we'll win. The "breaks" in football are which way the ball bounces when it hits the ground. If it bounces into my guy's hands...that's a good "break". Amen....
I also need to be better at teaching the kids to handle the bad breaks better. I didn't program enough situational or competitive drills into the practice schedule this year and it showed. We had several close games turn into lopsided affairs because the kids fell apart when the breaks didn't go our way.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 25, 2022 9:32:23 GMT -6
Matt Patricia was the DC in New England under Bill Belechik. It appears that he is calling the offense tonight. His official title is "Senior Football Advisor/Offensive Line Coach". How common is it for a guy who was an NFL DC to move over to the offense?
I don't know how common it is but I don't imagine it's a difficult transition. He's spent years calling a defense against a variety NFL offenses so the Xs and Os shouldn't be an issue. He also knows enough to take over an NFL OL which is huge. And, he has assistants who are well-versed in their positions.
At the high school level, I've seen DCs take overs offenses fairly seamlessly. However, the flip-side of that coin has been hit or miss. OCs taking over defenses has proven to be problematic at times. IME, they're used to the "task" orientation of offense; "you line up here and here's your job." They can struggle with the reaction aspect of defense. IME, These DCs tend to try and solve problems with Xs and Os (fronts, blitzes, twists, new coverages, etc..etc..). Sometimes it works, sometimes it crashes and burns.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 19, 2022 10:32:10 GMT -6
My biggest pet peeve is when kids leave their helmet unattended on the sideline... for some reason it drives me crazy
Absolutely... Especially at the youth and middle school levels because there's a good chance that expensive helmet will disappear... Our rule; if we pick up ANY of your gear at ANY time, you're running for it. Otherwise, the kids think we're a maid service.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 18, 2022 11:43:32 GMT -6
Coaching with a lack of common sense drives me nuts. As an AD, I had a volleyball coach who would tally up the number of poor serves and make the girls run sprints for each one. The kids were running sprints for 20+ minutes at the beginning of practices following games. They could easily spend 40-50 minutes per week being punished for not being competent at a skill. We had a conversation that went nowhere ("Serving is easy, they need the running to learn to focus.") and it took a formal write-up to get her to actually rep friggin' serving.. Funny thing: we became a better serving team after the write-up. Huh..the team got better once they actually got coached up on the skill? Go figure LOL
Yeah... Hence the common sense portion... I also pretty much banned the "Heaven Or Hell" free throw drill for basketball at that school... Twenty kids standing one the baseline while one shoots a free throw. They miss and everyone runs. The make it, another player shoots a free throw and you still have twenty players standing around. Good Lord, just practice the free throws... I don't care about the "simulated pressure" when our free throw percentage is garbage.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 18, 2022 10:00:58 GMT -6
Coaching with a lack of common sense drives me nuts. As an AD, I had a volleyball coach who would tally up the number of poor serves and make the girls run sprints for each one. The kids were running sprints for 20+ minutes at the beginning of practices following games. They could easily spend 40-50 minutes per week being punished for not being competent at a skill. We had a conversation that went nowhere ("Serving is easy, they need the running to learn to focus.") and it took a formal write-up to get her to actually rep friggin' serving.. Funny thing: we became a better serving team after the write-up.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 17, 2022 9:59:40 GMT -6
I'm hanging up the whistle in this district but I'll still be coaching track. I have one move left in my career and it needs to be my "retirement" move. So, I will be looking at schools with at least middle tier football programs where I can close out my career as a position coach.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 14, 2022 9:54:52 GMT -6
As far as a price if I was going to pay $50.00 is about it. The only reason I would worry at all about payment is if you get kids to start doing things like social media, banners and so on then you run the risk of everyone wanting to get paid. There are of course ways around that.
This is my issue; it sets a precedence that I wouldn't want to deal with. We have a few art students who put a lot of time and effort into a mural in the weight room as a part of a project. The polite way to describe the mural is "It brightens up the room". In other words, there's no way we'd pay the kids for the work. And, knowing some of these parents, they'd be demanding compensation, even though the school paid for all of the material and they did a good chunk of it during the school day.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 13, 2022 15:36:31 GMT -6
This is parent driven all the way. Kid would have been stoked to have her art work put on those shirts regardless of payment
And, unfortunately, I don't think I'd set the precedence of paying the student for the artwork. Lose/lose because of mom.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 7, 2022 11:34:15 GMT -6
I agree with everything but the talking crap. I don't want my kids to get penalties talking crap but if they can stay focused and not get penalties while talking crap and it helps them gain an edge talking crap then I am okay with it. I would never ask kids to do anything that put another player's safety at risk. That stuff is ridiculous and uncalled for but I have had kids completely eliminate quality players by talking to them. Unfortunately, we have had guys who have fallen for the trash talk and play poorly too at times.
I tend to agree with this. I'm alright with a little spouting off, as long as we don't draw a penalty.
A few years ago, we had a kid chirping at the opposing team. An official approached me about a kid running his mouth. I pulled the kid, told him to knock it off and sent him back in. The opposing sideline kept griping about the kid and the officials approached me again. I asked the official what was being said and he stated that the opposing coach said the player was "threatening" his guys. Here's the conversation I had with the kid:
"Dude, what're you doing? They said you're threatening kids out there!" "Coach... I was singing 'Mama Said Knock You Out...'..." "Good Lord... Go back in.."
The official approached me again and I was pretty blunt with him; if you're going to flag us over a PG LL Cool J song, then go for it and I'll pull him. If not, tell Coach ____ to get his panties out of a wad. We didn't get flagged but Coach ___ didn't get his panties out a wad and griped all night.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 4, 2022 13:53:12 GMT -6
Because their coaches allow/encourage it.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 30, 2022 9:14:47 GMT -6
To be fair, many of the AD gigs are a miserable PITA the few people want these days. I've seen that job turn into an ugly, middle management position where the powers-that-be want you to be an "administrator" when it's convenient for them. And, "convenience" can mean going right under the bus right with the coaches. We're getting a lot of bureaucrats in those positions now because of this.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 29, 2022 10:09:55 GMT -6
Here's a good example of social media making this worse:
We had a game on Tuesday night and yesterday morning, I received a text from our AD. The text had a screen shot of a Facebook post thrown up by one of our dads. The post had a link to a concussion signs and symptoms website as well as a lengthy rant about "coaches ignoring concussions". He didn't directly accuse the staff of ignoring a concussion but his intent was certainly clear. There were about a dozen comments on the post, all with the same bullchit.
The AD wanted to know if we'd had any concussion issues, which we didn't. The dad and the kid claimed that we put him in, he came out complaining of a concussion and we tossed him back in. Now, not only do I know he's full of chit, I can prove it because the game was on the NFHS Network. We watched the game and, sure as chit, we tossed him in for his series, pulled him out and he never talked to any of us. Moreover; during his seven plays, he made contact ONCE: he fell down on a pile near out sideline.
This has been pointed out to Dad and the Facebook post has been removed.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 28, 2022 15:41:42 GMT -6
If some reason Alabama lost 4 games this year including to Auburn, and didn't make the playoffs (obviously) and then lost the first game next year, at least half the fans would think it was time for Saban go. I would wager to say the bigger the college football fan a parent is, the bigger the idiot they are when it comes to running a high school program. The die hards just don't understand the investment. They think them tuning in or showing up guarantees the victory.
And don't forget the Xs and Os... If we were only running the SCLSU little green notebook playbook, we'd be winning more...
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Post by coachcb on Sept 27, 2022 14:46:32 GMT -6
I've been in one program that ran a Counter Boot this way. Effective play when run correctly.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 27, 2022 11:14:41 GMT -6
Unfortunately, you don't need to be losing for this to happen. In the late 2000s, we blew out a good team in the semis, 49-17 and people were after us in the comment section of the local paper online the next day. The defense gave up too many points, we didn't play our JV until the fourth quarter, we ran the ball too much, we threw it too much, etc..etc..
This has always been the nature of the profession but I see social media making it more frequent and veracious.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 23, 2022 8:24:21 GMT -6
Your guess is as good as mine. An f-bomb gets a kid kicked out of school for a day here. Sh-t gets you a half-hour of detention.
Damn, how much do you get for a C Bomb? Aznando That's considered sexual harassment so a 1-3 day suspension.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 21, 2022 6:12:13 GMT -6
I swear like a sailor in the appropriate settings but I keep my language in check around the kids. I ask the same of the guys that coach under me, as well as the kids. I let some PG/PG-13 language slide as long as it's not consistent or directed at anyone but an f-bomb is an automatic round of bear crawling, crab walking and sprinting after practice (coaches included). Do you get to hire or fire coaches? There is absolutely no way I would do bear crawls. You could write me up but I would never do that
Not at that program. Interviews were done, I made my recommendations and then the AD made the call.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 20, 2022 14:03:27 GMT -6
I swear like a sailor in the appropriate settings but I keep my language in check around the kids. I ask the same of the guys that coach under me, as well as the kids. I let some PG/PG-13 language slide as long as it's not consistent or directed at anyone but an f-bomb is an automatic round of bear crawling, crab walking and sprinting after practice (coaches included). You make assistant coaches bearcrawl, crab walk, and sprint? F**k that!!!!
It's only happened once and it was after several warnings about it. We literally had three or four kids doing this every day for the first couple of weeks and this guy kept dropping f-bombs. So, he did the punishment with the boys once and I never heard another f-bomb in front of the kids.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 20, 2022 8:52:43 GMT -6
Your guess is as good as mine. An f-bomb gets a kid kicked out of school for a day here. Sh-t gets you a half-hour of detention.
Well why do you personally make it an automatic bear crawl and not the others?
Because I'm picking my battles. I get full support for punishing kids over the f-bomb. I wouldn't with the rest of the colorful language. That's the way this area is; "f-ck" is taboo in any setting but the rest are kosher.
We're a public school. The "F-ck Rule" has been in place for a long time here.
As has been pointed out, this is dependent on the school and area. In my tenure as an HC on a Native reservation, this was a losing battle. We managed to curb nasty sexual phrases and took that as a win. We never had issues with kids swearing during a game so we just chilled on it. We all ended up swearing like Marines down there.
Other places, I was called to task for saying "sh-t" (i.e. "Good Lord, that looked like sh-t.")
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Post by coachcb on Sept 19, 2022 15:11:48 GMT -6
I swear like a sailor in the appropriate settings but I keep my language in check around the kids. I ask the same of the guys that coach under me, as well as the kids. I let some PG/PG-13 language slide as long as it's not consistent or directed at anyone but an f-bomb is an automatic round of bear crawling, crab walking and sprinting after practice (coaches included). But why is the F word so mystical and powerful that it gets special attention?
Your guess is as good as mine. An f-bomb gets a kid kicked out of school for a day here. Sh-t gets you a half-hour of detention.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 19, 2022 11:34:10 GMT -6
I swear like a sailor in the appropriate settings but I keep my language in check around the kids. I ask the same of the guys that coach under me, as well as the kids. I let some PG/PG-13 language slide as long as it's not consistent or directed at anyone but an f-bomb is an automatic round of bear crawling, crab walking and sprinting after practice (coaches included).
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Post by coachcb on Sept 16, 2022 10:37:04 GMT -6
I haven't had any stars. Does that make me lucky or unlucky (LOL)?
IMO, lucky..... I've worked with some talented kids with an exceptional work ethic and they made coaching fun and easy. And... Then there's been the athletic sloths who make a season miserable, even after you've shown them the door.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 15, 2022 8:58:49 GMT -6
That's the million dollar question/answer. That's decided by the head man. IMO, there are a couple of times when you need to let a guy go. 1. He does something so wrong that you have to remove him from the team (drugs, tells off a coach, etc.). 2. It becomes so toxic that it affects the team as a whole in a negative way. If the team can survive his toxic attitude and his ability helps the team produce greater results, then you find a way to work with it. You don't really know that unless your there everyday and it can usually be felt.
IMO, it's important to recognize the bullchit from any kid early and head it off. We don't want to get to the tipping point you've described because there will be some damage done to the program before hand. If you're a PITA, there's going to be consequences. Reality, each kid has a job to do and that's what we're looking at. Johnny Football may go above and beyond his job because of his athleticism but there are other kids that will get the job done well enough that we can be successful.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 14, 2022 10:21:38 GMT -6
At the end of the day, kids need the same thing they've always needed: appropriate responses (positive and negative) to their actions. Personally, I think kids (and society in general) has grown a little soft but that doesn't change the need to be held accountable. Sometimes, we need to change how we hold kids accountable.
Personally, I've used a little extra conditioning as a "reminder" before we start cutting playing time. We ran into a situation recently where a mother had a fit over her exceptionally lazy kid being sent for jogs as "he hates running." Ten years ago, my response would've been "Well, that's the point, isn't it?" These day, I'm not going to fight it; we cut the kid's playing time for a game. He skipped out on practice (mom let him go home because he was having a "bad day") so we suspended him for a game.
Mom has been up in arms over it and my response to her has been quick n' easy: "These are the consequences for his actions."
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Post by coachcb on Sept 14, 2022 6:54:19 GMT -6
One thing I have done is told a kid like that "he's never a starter" Every week he has to earn his spot. And when he acts like a douche you are in a good spot. I say..."see...that's why I don't have you in. You can't be trusted to pay attention". Made a huge difference with the kid I did that to this year. When he plays poorly...pull him out. Keep him out. When he's good and does "team" things...put him in. Takes work, but can be done.
I like this, a lot. In fact, we have a young man who probably needs this approach, starting tonight.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 13, 2022 9:40:07 GMT -6
and STOP YELLING! That's the worst thing you can do. He's irritating you on purpose. Can you elaborate on that part? Interested
I'm not @chi5i but I'll give you my two cents on avoiding yelling.
1. It only serves a purpose if it's backed up with a consequence. Yelling isn't a consequence; it's just white noise unless there's discipline behind it. It sounds like this kid knows that and he's probably enjoying getting a rise out of the OP because it's all bark, no bite.
2. You can get your point across and be stern without hollering and yelling. Yelling elicits an emotional response that gets the kid's attention in the short term. In the long term, they either tune it out or they start to shut down. When I'm disciplining a kid, I don't want the lizard part of their brain triggered; I want the front/thinker part activated so they REALLY hear what I'm saying to them.
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