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Post by badtotheflexbone on Oct 23, 2021 17:30:42 GMT -6
Been out the game for a few years, have a situation that might possibly allow me to coach football again albeit with a pay cut in salary. Assuming most of us are involved in education as to what pays the bills, I'd have to change to a district that pays less combined with some other things I currently already do in my position, I'd have to take a hefty reduction in salary just to coach football.
This got me to thinking, how much of a pay cut would you take just to coach football, if any? Assume its the "perfect" scenario, ideal position, situation, for you football wise.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 23, 2021 18:03:11 GMT -6
I am a bit confused with your phrasing in the headline vs the body of your post. Do you mean "How much of a pay cut would you be willing (able) to take and ONLY coach football for the school/district and have no other responsibilities or duties"?
Or do you mean "How much money would you be willing to give up to be able to coach football if your current situation does not allow it"
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Post by larrymoe on Oct 23, 2021 18:25:02 GMT -6
As a 22 year old kid who was by myself, my salary didn't mean much to me, but coaching football did.
Now, as a 45 year old man with 16 and 13 year old kids who want to go to college, a car payment and TWO mortgages, salary is really important and coaching no longer is.
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Oct 23, 2021 23:43:44 GMT -6
coachd5085 I meant change district, still working in a teacher/education role, but have to take a pay cut because the new district you would be working for pays less, just so you would be able to coach football.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 24, 2021 6:29:46 GMT -6
Zero. I have never been a teacher in a school where I have coached. 23 years teaching and I am maxed out in salary. We have a state pension that's pretty good and our district pays over 22,000 of our health insurance each year add that to salary and total compensation is close to 100k. I'm not going anywhere to coach football. There is such a shortage of guys willing to coach around here and not to mention probably 20 schools with in a 20-25 minute drive from me no need to leave my teaching job to coach.
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Post by CS on Oct 24, 2021 7:16:47 GMT -6
coachd5085 I meant change district, still working in a teacher/education role, but have to take a pay cut because the new district you would be working for pays less, just so you would be able to coach football. Happiness is more important to me than money. That being said we have been really good with money over the years and we have very little debt. I would definitely take a pay cut if the situation I was in no longer made me happy So if you don’t need the money and it will make you happier I say go for it |
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Post by blb on Oct 24, 2021 8:10:40 GMT -6
Money may not be everything, but it sure makes everything else easier. I agree in principle with what CS wrote, especially if you're single. That said every time I changed jobs I got more money so may not be best example. |
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Post by CS on Oct 24, 2021 9:03:10 GMT -6
Money may not be everything, but it sure makes everything else easier. I agree in principle with what CS wrote, especially if you're single. That said every time I changed jobs I got more money so may not be best example. I have a wife and kid. I make a good living though and so does my wife. Life is too short to make decisions based on money unless you absolutely have to |
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Post by blb on Oct 24, 2021 10:01:02 GMT -6
Money may not be everything, but it sure makes everything else easier. I agree in principle with what CS wrote, especially if you're single. That said every time I changed jobs I got more money so may not be best example. I have a wife and kid. I make a good living though and so does my wife. Life is too short to make decisions based on money unless you absolutely have to Can't argue with that. I never changed jobs just because of the money but because of the opportunities-better jobs. You can always find ways to live on what you make. At least we did. |
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Oct 24, 2021 11:45:42 GMT -6
I'm pretty much between what cs and blb stated, fortunate enough to be quite the minimalist and living just fine below my means yet understanding that money sure does make every thing else easier haha. I'm in a pretty good spot now where I'm at and the only reason I'd leave is solely for the love of football and the opportunity to coach it again. Time will tell! |
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Post by blb on Oct 24, 2021 15:03:22 GMT -6
badtotheflexbone one thing you need to look into is pay scale for teachers in both places. You may start off at less if new one doesn't give you credit for your experience (years) but if you stay there, get a Masters' - by the time you're ready to retire you might be making more! Add in the money you would make coaching football again - then what would the difference between two districts be? Also, you mentioned "other things" you're doing where you're at currently. Could you do some of those same "things" at new place to make up difference?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 22:48:45 GMT -6
coachd5085 I meant change district, still working in a teacher/education role, but have to take a pay cut because the new district you would be working for pays less, just so you would be able to coach football. Oh absolutely. And in my case, ABSOLUTELY. |
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Post by newhope on Oct 26, 2021 9:12:13 GMT -6
I'd gladly take a 20,000 pay cut and just coach football.
Ain't nobody in these parts going to pay that amount of money for a football only coach.
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Post by RunThePistol on Oct 26, 2021 9:24:39 GMT -6
How many jobs are out there that allow you to make $100K plus and ONLY coach? I only know of a couple personally.
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Post by coachbsting on Oct 26, 2021 13:28:20 GMT -6
I think as a dumb new coach I would have paid to coach. Then reality sets in and it’s not just X’s and O’s and running intelligent practices. It’s player drama, parent drama or admin drama.
So no if I ever coach again I want some money to buy the aspirin for the headaches. If I have su money in the bank maybe I'll work as an assistant again for 50-100 bucks a season.
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Post by tog on Oct 27, 2021 7:45:26 GMT -6
I am retired
so
I don't know how to answer the poll
lol
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Post by willydee1 on Nov 9, 2021 14:05:41 GMT -6
I used to love teaching. The burnout is real. I find myself slowly starting to hate it. Coaching is the only thing that is keeping me in education...If I could pay the bills and just coach, I would in a heart beat. Regardless, I am probably going to try something else at some point.
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Post by blb on Nov 9, 2021 14:21:47 GMT -6
I used to love teaching. The burnout is real. I find myself slowly starting to hate it. Coaching is the only thing that is keeping me in education...If I could pay the bills and just coach, I would in a heart beat. Regardless, I am probably going to try something else at some point. Try teaching Shakespeare, Mythology, Poetry, Grammar, literature like The Scarlet Letter etc. for 19 years. Half way through I knew I was obsolete and the school I was at had high percentage of cultural illiterates but still going to be evaluated on not only kids' grades but their standardized test scores. |
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Post by Down 'n Out on Nov 10, 2021 5:44:05 GMT -6
I responded with 5k or less. I work outside the school system and coach. If the perfect situation came along I would go to a public system and take a small pay cut but it would have to be the perfect situation (position I want, the right HC, right administration, chance to win at a high level, right school, right teaching position). If I couldn't get most of those things then id continue doing what I'm doing, I'm content currently: my teaching job is pretty laid back, I coach at a great school with great kids, and were competitive.
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Post by realdawg on Nov 10, 2021 6:37:05 GMT -6
The fact of the matter is, we are accustomed to living at the level of money that we currently make.....therefore, my answer would be 2K or less. No one wants to go back to being able to live below their current means.
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 10, 2021 7:41:41 GMT -6
The fact of the matter is, we are accustomed to living at the level of money that we currently make.....therefore, my answer would be 2K or less. No one wants to go back to being able to live below their current means. That's why one of my 1st pieces of advice to new/young coaches is to consider the supplement part of their check to be found money and bank it. That way they start early on saving for retirement, and if you chose to leave/change/get fired/etc... coaching jobs it won't effect their financial stability. |
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Post by fantom on Nov 10, 2021 7:57:27 GMT -6
The fact of the matter is, we are accustomed to living at the level of money that we currently make.....therefore, my answer would be 2K or less. No one wants to go back to being able to live below their current means. That's why I always tell young coaches who aspire to coach in college to do it NOW. Volunteering or living off of GA money is a lot tougher once you have a family, car payments, and mortgage. |
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Post by chi5hi on Nov 11, 2021 1:53:39 GMT -6
I figured it out once a few years ago...I made 33 cents an hour as a coach. Can't take much more of a pay cut than that.
But...if I really needed the money, I'd just have to sell my body. And, no...I don't have change for a nickel.
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Post by olcoach53 on Nov 11, 2021 5:11:34 GMT -6
Did it already. Went from making 60K+ as a HS head coach to making 25K as a D3 Assistant. I felt I wanted to make the jump, felt like the right time and now here I am with a wife and kid on the way wishing I could go back to being a HS HC...grass isn't always greener and sometimes you have to make decisions that are best for YOU and YOU alone.
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Post by blb on Nov 11, 2021 12:55:26 GMT -6
Did it already. Went from making 60K+ as a HS head coach to making 25K as a D3 Assistant. I felt I wanted to make the jump, felt like the right time and now here I am with a wife and kid on the way wishing I could go back to being a HS HC...grass isn't always greener and sometimes you have to make decisions that are best for YOU and YOU alone. There shouldn't be a difference between making a living and making a life. Subtle perhaps, and maybe psychological or ego-driven. |
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